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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
April 21 2025 05:57 GMT
#2
Protoss Fighting!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines133 Posts
April 21 2025 06:22 GMT
#3
Alright time to guess which Rain will show up today
Yuru Yuri best anime
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China144 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 07:51:39
April 21 2025 06:24 GMT
#4
Rain vs Bisu in ASL I have been waiting for 6 years
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States894 Posts
April 21 2025 06:25 GMT
#5
Love the pictures from 10 years and 10 kgs ago
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1998 Posts
April 21 2025 07:34 GMT
#6
Man this group is hard to call. I want Rain and Bisu to advance, but I suspect that's asking a bit much...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
April 21 2025 08:54 GMT
#7
On April 21 2025 15:22 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Alright time to guess which Rain will show up today


/diceroll =)

Man this group is hard to call.

Wondering as well who will advance - while Group D is the group of death an Group B was hard to call, I think this one is the most volatile one.

Bisu was on a roll lately, but more on PvT than PvZ, Rain is a bag of wonders... maybe zer0 is the weakest one, "only" won a ZvJ and vs Stork in the ro16. Then again, maybe the old Queen will show up...

Exciting to see how it will play out
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Unholy Alliance =-
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 09:02 GMT
#8
Rooting for Queen and Bisu
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
April 21 2025 09:56 GMT
#9
I still believe in Action
don't wall off against random
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:31 GMT
#10
needed lurkers way earlier
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
April 21 2025 10:32 GMT
#11
Rained
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 10:35 GMT
#12
Muta snipes not good enough.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 10:36 GMT
#13
Alrighty, buckets at the ready.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China144 Posts
April 21 2025 10:39 GMT
#14
WOW, I see Slava Ukraini!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:39 GMT
#15
action just threw so many mutas away into storms. well gg. lets go queen.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:42 GMT
#16
bisu losing probes to 2 lings lets goo
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:46 GMT
#17
queen deciding discretion better part of valor to his hydra bust when he sees a ht with a ling scout. Saves all his hydras and moves back to secure his 4th and scout the map.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:48 GMT
#18
queen manages to get a few ht snipes with lings and a coupel hydras while in a fighting retreat back to his main. Looking kinda rough cuz hes getting run down by zealots and hts but hide lurkers at queen's main kill 3 hts and stabilize the fight. Queen does end up losing some drones at his 3rd.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 10:49:35
April 21 2025 10:49 GMT
#19
dropships coming out for bisu but scourge find them. Bisu having a lot of trouble making a 3rd.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:50 GMT
#20
bisu's ninja at 5 gets found by a detachment from queen and there's about to be a fight at 12.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:52 GMT
#21
bisu tries to break out but he just doesnt have enough storms as hes stuck at his natural and 3rd. He mismicros a bunch of templar and its looking kind of rough.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 10:54:05
April 21 2025 10:53 GMT
#22
bisu being a bit manner sticking around on 2 base lol. He's channeling fantasy.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 10:54 GMT
#23
does it count as templar snipe if they just walk into the zerg army?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 10:54:50
April 21 2025 10:54 GMT
#24
Bisu so bad -_-;;
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 10:54 GMT
#25
Poll: Recommend Action vs Rain?

Yes (7)
 
70%

No (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Rain?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:55 GMT
#26
bisu decides the 3rd time his 3rd dies is when he wants to gg.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 10:55 GMT
#27
On April 21 2025 19:54 gravity wrote:
does it count as templar snipe if they just walk into the zerg army?

yes
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 10:55 GMT
#28
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs Queen?

If you have time (7)
 
64%

No (3)
 
27%

Yes (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs Queen?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 10:56 GMT
#29
is it time to chug?!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 10:56 GMT
#30
Bold strategy from Bisu leading into the Zerg army with his HTs (and somehow not fathoming his expo might be countered as he moves out).
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 10:56 GMT
#31
someone get the bucket out.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4114 Posts
April 21 2025 10:57 GMT
#32
Bisu did not cast a single storm vs diving to snipe hydras, like 5 to 10 templars died without casting even once
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 10:58 GMT
#33
On April 21 2025 19:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
someone get the bucket out.

He looks like he hasn’t practiced much for today.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
April 21 2025 11:00 GMT
#34
Still can't find Hot6 in my area
don't wall off against random
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 11:11 GMT
#35
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

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88%

Yes (1)
 
13%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 11:22 GMT
#36
Rain handled those mass scourge pretty well.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 11:22:52
April 21 2025 11:22 GMT
#37
used 2 scourge to kill a sair in a cloud of 6, then tries to use 20 and kills another... 1 sair.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 11:33 GMT
#38
I think at this point Rain is just going to slowly die. Can't get a 5th and can't break anywhere.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 11:34 GMT
#39
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

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45%

If you have time (4)
 
36%

No (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

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(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 11:35 GMT
#40
Domination. Rain not up to late game play vs Queen.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
April 21 2025 11:35 GMT
#41
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 11:38 GMT
#42
Honestly been pretty bad games so far given the quality of players :/
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
April 21 2025 11:39 GMT
#43
Just got online, Rain seemed to not only play to straight up , but to throw Zealots into lurkers and Dragoons into Lings too many times.
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China144 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 11:39:36
April 21 2025 11:39 GMT
#44
ZVZ finals again! , is everyone happy? Maybe we can see RO4 have 4Z
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 12:00 GMT
#45
action really trying to throw by not microing there but he managed to eke it out.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:00 GMT
#46
yongtaek
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:01 GMT
#47
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

If you have time (6)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:02 GMT
#48
All the good Terrans were taken out by each other or protosses and now the zergs are running wild -_-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:07 GMT
#49
It’s bucket time.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:08 GMT
#50
load up the bucket for real now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 12:09 GMT
#51
Feels like that bust should have worked but Action messed up the micro?
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 12:09 GMT
#52
action is playing this SO sloppy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:10 GMT
#53
On April 21 2025 21:02 RowdierBob wrote:
All the good Terrans were taken out by each other or protosses and now the zergs are running wild -_-


we should tell protoss players to maybe not lose, lol.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 12:11:49
April 21 2025 12:11 GMT
#54
after today everyone is betting on snow and mini tomorrow.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 21 2025 12:17 GMT
#55
the defense in depth is real lol
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:19 GMT
#56
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

No (4)
 
50%

If you have time (3)
 
38%

Yes (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

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(Vote): If you have time

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:20 GMT
#57
Lets see if Rain can get some measure of success against Action
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1761 Posts
April 21 2025 12:20 GMT
#58
Why does it look like bisu is losing on purpose? Super later archive vs action first game and throwing away zealots without speed then fail cannon zealot rush and super late robo 2nd game.
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:20 GMT
#59
Ugh that’s a really grim performance today from Bisu. Always looks really ugly when he loses.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:22 GMT
#60
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:30 GMT
#61
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 12:37 GMT
#62
Saccing a lot of zealots to stop the upgrade
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 12:40:23
April 21 2025 12:40 GMT
#63
I'm so confused because this game looks more competently played so far
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 12:40 GMT
#64
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

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71%

If you have time (2)
 
29%

No (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:41 GMT
#65
Man when rain hits his timings he hits hard.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 12:42 GMT
#66
That was shaky AF from Action
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:44 GMT
#67
Does Action have a long ZvP in him? Rain looks pretty comfy against the hydra/muta build. Didn’t look great vs Queen in the hive phase. But Action doesn’t look keen on going past Lair in his games so far.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:53 GMT
#68
Not good for Rain. The BTS build comes through.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 12:55 GMT
#69
Gg imminent in this one.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 13:02 GMT
#70
finally a series.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
April 21 2025 13:02 GMT
#71
Nice play by Action.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 13:02 GMT
#72
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

Yes (4)
 
44%

If you have time (4)
 
44%

No (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:03 GMT
#73
Rain looks better but Action gambling it up and it’s working for him.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 13:04 GMT
#74
Ruthlessly good mutas that game.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:06 GMT
#75
Having 4 Z in the ro8 with Hero still to come tomorrow would be brutal. Come on rain.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
April 21 2025 13:12 GMT
#76
Action attacked photon with overloard. Did not work.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:15 GMT
#77
Action looking very strong. Gonna come down to this next big push from rain.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:18 GMT
#78
I think that’s it. Can’t see rain winning from here
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 13:18 GMT
#79
Action is in a great spot! He could actually do this!
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 13:24 GMT
#80
It's actually insane how poorly Action trades in these fights
Toshinou-Kyouko
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Philippines133 Posts
April 21 2025 13:28 GMT
#81
cracklings are annoying af
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 13:32 GMT
#82
Rain has lost so many random Templar to like 2 lings picking them off. Dream DT though.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
April 21 2025 13:32 GMT
#83
losing these drones in such a low econ game has got to be devastating
boomer hands
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
April 21 2025 13:33 GMT
#84
Invisible men to the rescue
don't wall off against random
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7893 Posts
April 21 2025 13:33 GMT
#85
25 kills on that dt !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 13:34 GMT
#86
never give up
never surrender
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 13:34 GMT
#87
At least we had one good game tonight.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines133 Posts
April 21 2025 13:35 GMT
#88
The good Rain showed up tonight, gg
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
April 21 2025 13:35 GMT
#89
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7893 Posts
April 21 2025 13:35 GMT
#90
action will be very sad! He had this game 100% !

but his trades were afwul...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:35 GMT
#91
Holy flurking shnit, what a game! One of the best PvZ I’ve seen
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21566 Posts
April 21 2025 13:36 GMT
#92
Feels like both of them were just playing badly (relatively). But my god that DT absolutely wrecked, won the game right there.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 21 2025 13:36 GMT
#93
Action had that. Just lost so many units to poor control in the mid-game; stray units everywhere, and that 1 DT OMG. Feel bad for Action.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 21 2025 13:36 GMT
#94
Wow
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:37 GMT
#95
The multi tasking in that was nuts. Rain trying to keep it together with Action moving all over the map to snipe HTs and expos was intense. And the hero DT that won it in the end.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 21 2025 13:38 GMT
#96
Feels like both of them were just playing badly (relatively). But my god that DT absolutely wrecked, won the game right there.


I imagine they were both getting tired by that point. Action looked it too.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
April 21 2025 13:39 GMT
#97
man the count of those "depseration" storms. Action really good with the lings all around sniping templars, but not enough. that one DT just too good
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:39 GMT
#98
On April 21 2025 22:36 G5 wrote:
Action had that. Just lost so many units to poor control in the mid-game; stray units everywhere, and that 1 DT OMG. Feel bad for Action.

He just needed to chill after crushing Rain’s first big push. But prob went a bit too hard for Rain’s fourth instead of waiting for defilers. Even then he still should’ve closed it out but he opened the door after that poor engagement to let rain back into it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 13:41 GMT
#99
Action is so good and comfortable in late game ZvT but looks anything but in late game ZvP.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 21 2025 13:53 GMT
#100
Relax, guys. They both played quite good. That was non-stop, exhausting and extremely intense. Wp
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 21 2025 14:07 GMT
#101
On April 21 2025 22:53 TornadoSteve wrote:
Relax, guys. They both played quite good. That was non-stop, exhausting and extremely intense. Wp

It was a great game. You could feel and see the pressure that late game craziness was putting on their multi tasking at the end.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4114 Posts
April 21 2025 15:28 GMT
#102
Honestly, Rain looked like the better player in the 4 games with Action. Action advantages came mostly from abusing vs P match up imo. However, Bisu looked like the worst player in the group with a margin
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2829 Posts
April 21 2025 16:05 GMT
#103
Action made like the lunch lady from Billy Madison and was EXXTRAAA SLOPPPPPAYYYYY

I kinda skimmed through the vod today. Games were pretty bad. I did watch Queen vs Bisu all the way through. I dno how other people feel about it but I never liked the pure zealot/HT move-outs. HT always seem so vulnerable here. Also no dark archons. 1/10.
aka wilted_kale
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands785 Posts
April 21 2025 16:25 GMT
#104
On April 22 2025 01:05 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Action made like the lunch lady from Billy Madison and was EXXTRAAA SLOPPPPPAYYYYY

I kinda skimmed through the vod today. Games were pretty bad. I did watch Queen vs Bisu all the way through. I dno how other people feel about it but I never liked the pure zealot/HT move-outs. HT always seem so vulnerable here. Also no dark archons. 1/10.

Only Bisu games were below par. other games were good.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 16:39:24
April 21 2025 16:39 GMT
#105
Was hoping for a ZvZ and PvP. Heavily underrated matchups.
aka wilted_kale
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
April 21 2025 16:42 GMT
#106
Well they're also the matchups that probably have the most non-games too.
boomer hands
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2625 Posts
April 21 2025 18:00 GMT
#107
I interpret Rain's reaction after the last game as "this is why I retired after season 8, this game is not good for health".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19219 Posts
April 21 2025 18:25 GMT
#108
Hang tight Bisu fans. Statistically, Bisu will make it in the next round of 8.
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Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 18:44:39
April 21 2025 18:39 GMT
#109
i mean is it a big deal to make 1 sunken and 1 overlord at each expo?

only soulkey seems to always notice dt by some black magic
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 21 2025 20:03 GMT
#110
On April 22 2025 03:00 TMNT wrote:
I interpret Rain's reaction after the last game as "this is why I retired after season 8, this game is not good for health".


Hahaha agreed
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 21 2025 20:07 GMT
#111
If hero can clinch the first spot tomorrow, we will avoid mirror going into ro8!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7893 Posts
April 21 2025 20:53 GMT
#112
Bisu is streaming right now!

He is drinking (is a bit drunk already)

He somehow looks happy and sad at the same time !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-21 21:36:43
April 21 2025 21:31 GMT
#113
"Drinking is good for your health" Bisu
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
HolySmokes
Profile Joined December 2024
56 Posts
April 21 2025 22:23 GMT
#114
Damn. Bisu is the definition of washed up, isn't he? Too bad for him. Queen is quietly just playing some dominating SC. He's looked comfortable and in control in every match he's played. The zergs are looking so strong right now.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 21 2025 22:31 GMT
#115
Bisu isn't washed up. His mechanics are way too good. He just doesnt play as much as some other guys, and it show.

Its just that simple
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
April 22 2025 00:19 GMT
#116
Bisu is a bit washed up but not entirely. He hasn’t been a serious contender for an ASL for a long time now. Looking back, ASL 13 in 2022 was the last time he had a decent run.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
April 22 2025 00:57 GMT
#117
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 22 2025 02:18 GMT
#118
On April 22 2025 09:57 HOLYBATS wrote:
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.


But he wont face him unless he reach the finals, no
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
April 22 2025 02:19 GMT
#119
On April 22 2025 11:18 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2025 09:57 HOLYBATS wrote:
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.


But he wont face him unless they both reach the finals, no?

TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-22 02:20:21
April 22 2025 02:20 GMT
#120
On April 22 2025 11:19 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2025 11:18 TornadoSteve wrote:
On April 22 2025 09:57 HOLYBATS wrote:
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.


But they wont face eachother unless they both reach the finals, no?


chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
April 22 2025 03:24 GMT
#121
Rain played so badly in the 2nd match where he had tunnel vision and just couldn't deal with the mutas. His storms on the mutas were always wasteful, the corsairs didn't do much, and he refused to get a DA. After that match, I thought that there ain't no way he would win the 3rd given that it already extended to the lategame where Action almost always wins - behold the heroDT thanks to all the LOL he played. Goodness gracious.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
April 22 2025 07:18 GMT
#122
Semi is an option
On April 22 2025 11:18 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2025 09:57 HOLYBATS wrote:
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.


But he wont face him unless he reach the finals, no

reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
April 22 2025 09:00 GMT
#123
OMFG that last game!!!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands785 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-22 10:06:32
April 22 2025 10:06 GMT
#124
On April 22 2025 03:39 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
i mean is it a big deal to make 1 sunken and 1 overlord at each expo?

only soulkey seems to always notice dt by some black magic

Soulkey's oversight and awareness is exactly why he is the best player. he also delibetately plays at a slightly lower apm because its less mentally straining. Action for example almost exclusively macros with 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh and wont often look at bases. Soulkey tends to look at bases more because he relies less on that macro cycle key sequence.
JDON MY SOUL!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey282 Posts
April 22 2025 15:47 GMT
#125
On April 22 2025 19:06 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2025 03:39 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
i mean is it a big deal to make 1 sunken and 1 overlord at each expo?

only soulkey seems to always notice dt by some black magic

Soulkey's oversight and awareness is exactly why he is the best player. he also delibetately plays at a slightly lower apm because its less mentally straining. Action for example almost exclusively macros with 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh and wont often look at bases. Soulkey tends to look at bases more because he relies less on that macro cycle key sequence.

I think you mean lack of oversight.
Sad for Bisu & Action. My faves. Bring down Zero and Rain in Ro8.
Turrican
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 07:09:23
April 23 2025 07:07 GMT
#126
What a ridiculous final match. Protoss winning pvz is like watching someone squat in the 300s. Felt like the Zerg timing jumping up to 4 bases was some build edge.on the flip, it feels like they get tunnel vision on the tools they have.

Bisu definitely below par today. Queen feels. Bit slept on. He was in absurd form like 2 years ago. He has some pedigree at this point.

Not excited for group D. ;_; gonna be brutal. Cmon Snow.
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Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
Lithuania118 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 13:56:53
April 23 2025 13:54 GMT
#127
On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 14:50:44
April 23 2025 14:46 GMT
#128
Oh right, now that I realised Action always seems to gg pretty quick. He had almost a shock gg vs Best in the quarterfinals a couple of seasons ago. I don't think he had a chance to come back in those games though. But he tends to give up as soon as he loses a big fight. Most players tend to fight back a little bit until the Zerg natural is completely swamped by Protoss. Not for Action. He's the anti Fantasy when it comes to gg timing lol.

Also Rain did say in the post match interview that he thought about typing gg a couple of times in the last game. But then he thought about all that League experience and decided to built a hero DT to go solo bottom. Paid off handsomely.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 15:12:58
April 23 2025 15:12 GMT
#129
By the way Queen is in insane form this month. 36-17 ZvP (68%) and 28-12 ZvT (70%). He's also leading 2-0 vs Soulkey.

Since last week, he's on a roll of 21-1. The only dropped game against Flash.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
April 23 2025 18:51 GMT
#130
On April 23 2025 22:54 Artas1984 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.


I noticed how he only macros up and go out hoping to overwhelm his opponent, got humbled by ZerO for that badly.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2625 Posts
April 23 2025 20:36 GMT
#131
On April 24 2025 03:51 iFU.pauline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2025 22:54 Artas1984 wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.


I noticed how he only macros up and go out hoping to overwhelm his opponent, got humbled by ZerO for that badly.

Strange that you didn't notice in that game Queen also only macro'd up and didn't even have to go out. But somehow that is not as boring as going out to attack and wouldn't be a good riddance.

Sarcasm aside, were you not aware of, or SCTV casters didn't mention that Rain overbuilt anti-air defense because he saw Queen's third gas and thought he would go mass Muta Scourge, only for Queen to switch to Hydras immediately, delaying Rain's ground army, so that by the time he was able to move out, he had to play the long macro game vs Zerg.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1529 Posts
April 23 2025 21:13 GMT
#132
Zero is pretty dry as well, his fpvod are stylish though, but that's about it, never was a big fan of him. I don't think the game context makes a difference to what I said, Rain played the same way vs Zero and Action, it is just his style.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44079 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-24 02:50:35
April 24 2025 02:49 GMT
#133
Queen making it out first is kinda expected looking at his recent form but holy moly Action had it and Rain still like gritted through all it and made it.

That one DT murdering all his drones is crazy lol

Bisu's showcase is just disappointing tbqh
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