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On September 30 2024 15:21 Zergxhx wrote: Does anyone still remember how terrible Rain was in PVP? Was he? When he was good, he was good at PvP. | ||
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Mini and Snow are the obv choice, but... Rain has a case for being the PvP Goat. He doesn't seem very serious about BW atm, but I can see him progressing on the back of his elite PvP. Speed continues to get better and better. This could be his breakout tournament similar to JyJ and Royal of previous ASLs. | ||
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FIGHTING! | ||
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Rain . PvP 77% . (31-9) Mini . PvP 82% . (14-3) Snow .PvT 100% (22-0) Speed TvP 77% . (74-17) | ||
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On September 30 2024 16:49 `Myst wrote: Recent cwal.gg Stats: Rain . PvP 77% . (31-9) Mini . PvP 82% . (14-3) Snow .PvT 100% (22-0) Speed TvP 77% . (74-17) What is this? Ladder? | ||
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On September 30 2024 18:03 prosatan wrote: snow and speed for my lb ... Speed over Mini is a huge gamble  | ||
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Mini 2-1 Rain 1-2 Speed 0-2 | ||
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If Rain meets Speed I think he will be eliminated. His tournament vT is like 37%? I think Snow is still too different from Best that Speed can pick it up. Speed said he _wanted_ a rematch against Snow in the group selection, so it is on him to come up with a glowing, hot, shining protoss-beating strategy. | ||
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Snow - bottom left Speed- top left | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:36 BLinD-RawR wrote: Snow is going full jaehoon, arbs and carriers He just needs to recall an observer | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:48 Terrorbladder wrote: Why does Snow lose to Speed of all people? he has nobody but himself to blame. He played so sloppily and with a weird ass build. | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:48 Kaal wrote: Ah, I didn't catch the entire of the match, just tuned in for the last 5 minutes when Snow got like 4 carriers.he has nobody but himself to blame. He played so sloppily and with a weird ass build. | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:52 cheesehuehue wrote: Man people say Snow deserves to win an ASL/SSL, but when you throw a game in this way, I'd argue you actually don't deserve to win at all. I mean, compare this dumb as hell build to Soulkey's recurrent 200 IQ strategies in ASL/SSL and tell me who actually deserves to win the tournament. | ||
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TMNT
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There are only 2 explanations for that build. One is he got cocky and tried to be cute by showcasing every tech Protoss has. The other is he got PTSD of the 5 6 Fac meta so he went for way too many safety measures before Carriers. | ||
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On September 30 2024 20:06 Kaal wrote: I really would like to know why every protoss tries to drop behind the mineral line and not to the sides or inside it. The scarabs seem to only do damage like 5% of the time when you drop fully behind because of the travel distance. You'd think they'd know not to do it by now. Especially since Rain saw mini's army move out with his obs. Such an opportunity missed. thats why flash is the best protoss lol | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'm never letting simplistik cook again It's all part of the plan... | ||
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On September 30 2024 20:01 TMNT wrote: 1 year ago he would have just tech'd into storm, expanded the whole map and kept attacking Speed until Terran ran out of steam. There are only 2 explanations for that build. One is he got cocky and tried to be cute by showcasing every tech Protoss has. The other is he got PTSD of the 5 6 Fac meta so he went for way too many safety measures before Carriers. I think he got cute. Thought he’d fake out Speed with arb+gateway man then spring the carriers on him. Prob thought Speed was a lot more crippled than he was. | ||
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On September 30 2024 19:50 RowdierBob wrote: I thought Speed was just playing it out because he might as well. Why you go some weird Arb+ground+carrier build there is beyond me. Just do the Bisu quick ground/arb max out or do the Mini quick carriers and A move to victory. I’d love to know what snows reasoning for doing what he did. Why SnOw has to play like Bisu or Mini? He was not wrong, just Speed was good at the game. You don't know the strength of combo Arbiter + Carrier Carriers do so much damages Arbiter can protect Carriers, and recall to attack and defend everywhere in the map. I think Arbiter + Carrier will be meta in the next SSL. Remember KSL, every almost lose game, Protoss players just bought some Carriers and came back so easily. With Arbiter, Carriers x2 strength. | ||
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On September 30 2024 20:25 SCRVN wrote: Why SnOw has to play like Bisu or Mini? He was not wrong, just Speed was good at the game. You don't know the strength of combo Arbiter + Carrier Carriers do so much damages Arbiter can protect Carriers, and recall to attack and defend everywhere in the map. I think Arbiter + Carrier will be meta in the next SSL. Remember KSL, every almost lose game, Protoss players just bought some Carriers and came back so easily. With Arbiter, Carriers x2 strength. I mean, sure if you have a critical mass of carrier. But he went a little bit of everything and ended up with nothing. | ||
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rain 1-0 | ||
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Unfortunately the stream is miserable now. Had to reload it like 10 times during this match. I will watch the rest of it later I suppose... On September 30 2024 20:08 ggsimida wrote: thats why flash is the best protoss lol Yeah lol. Flash also knows to target the scvs at the end of the transfer line so the scarab won't be a dud. | ||
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On September 30 2024 20:29 RowdierBob wrote: I mean, sure if you have a critical mass of carrier. But he went a little bit of everything and ended up with nothing. It's a mind game. SnOw was so smart, he showed off Arbiter, Speed would build so many Turrets in his bases, then SnOw went to Carriers to destroy Speed's army in big combat but Speed scanned in time, so he didn't fall to a trap of SnOw. To some guys told: A move timing push to win This is just for noobs to play. When you have advantage in early game, you should extend your advantage more and more. That's way of gosu, SnOw did that in the game. If you are gosu, you will know what I say! | ||
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On September 30 2024 20:54 Miragee wrote: Man, I feel like if Speed wouldn't be massively behind after the early midgame, he would crush these games. I have no idea what he was trying to achieve with that 3 fact push though. That was doomed to fail from the getgo. Unfortunately the stream is miserable now. Had to reload it like 10 times during this match. I will watch the rest of it later I suppose... Yeah lol. Flash also knows to target the scvs at the end of the transfer line so the scarab won't be a dud. Agree, Speeds multitask and decision making is very good in the later game. But he keeps giving up these huge early leads then trying to get back into it. | ||
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Def believing in the Speed hype though. He’s good. | ||
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On September 30 2024 21:21 Simplistik wrote: So, Rain is through? yep, better hope snow wins this and gets revenge on speed or we're just bums. | ||
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PVJ
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On September 30 2024 19:13 PVJ wrote: Snow - Mini to go through. Pl-ea-se!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Rain meets Speed I think he will be eliminated. His tournament vT is like 37%? I think Snow is still too different from Best that Speed can pick it up. Speed said he _wanted_ a rematch against Snow in the group selection, so it is on him to come up with a glowing, hot, shining protoss-beating strategy. I can't fucking believe how hard I got proven false | ||
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It's fall after all, damn it! | ||
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prosatan
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snow 1 - mini 0 | ||
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On September 30 2024 21:35 RowdierBob wrote: Omg and now Snow choking. Wtf happening with these two hahaha they are both losing | ||
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On September 30 2024 21:35 RowdierBob wrote: Omg and now Snow choking. Wtf happening with these two nothing wrong in mini choking. | ||
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On September 30 2024 21:34 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Does either of these protoss deserve to go through tho?I just really hope that we will have two protoss players advancing from this group in the end.. Come on, guys. It's fall after all, damn it! | ||
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prosatan
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i really believe in mini's early game !!!! | ||
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On September 30 2024 21:40 prosatan wrote: i don't think this will work i really believe in mini's early game !!!! yes.. i am an idiot | ||
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Hopefully.. | ||
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I have no doubt that he's taking it seriously and he's still somehow putting some work in but it's also well-known that he's far from being the most active player. I'm surprised on how Rain made it look easy. I actually had him finish either 3rd or 4th in this group so that's a surprise for me. I wouldn't be surprised to see Speed advance but I think SnOw's experience will help him go through. If this series is similar to their first game then we're in for a treat boys! | ||
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downhill too. | ||
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On September 30 2024 22:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: but that consistent 450 APM does let Speed be an absolute terrorist, its like watching fantasy. 100% my thoughts also !! | ||
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On September 30 2024 22:25 Kaal wrote: Snow really needs to just counter and melt that 6 oclock base. he just doesn't have the army count, good storms though. | ||
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Sick game. | ||
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Tbh I don't see him winning last game of this series.. hope I'm wrong. | ||
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On September 30 2024 22:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Snow is looking pretty awful today. Tbh I don't see him winning last game of this series.. hope I'm wrong. Nice reverse commentators curse. No way Snow can win this! | ||
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I love how their styles match with each other. Would love to see a BO7 between them. Speed is playing out of his mind, and I'm loving it. | ||
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On September 30 2024 22:49 Simplistik wrote: Nice reverse commentators curse. No way Snow can win this! I think Meta is right. Unless Snow gets a decent early advantage, Speed looks better in the mid and late game. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:03 RowdierBob wrote: Snow with the desperation carriers now. nothing desperate about them, this is a carrier map. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:03 RowdierBob wrote: Snow with the desperation carriers now. What blindrawr said. All these HBR-like 2p maps are carrier central. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:06 Simplistik wrote: Mank, I can't deal with another heart attack. I gotta stop watching this live... lol.. Same. | ||
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actually I'll still say that, Snow really got exposed by Speed there. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:09 Kaal wrote: rip speed he played he fuckin heart out. Speed was good. I hope he'll be back. But, for now... ![[image loading]](https://tl.net/staff/Simplistik/ASL18/Snow/autumn.jpg) Let's enjoy some nice autumn leaves. | ||
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On September 30 2024 22:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Snow is looking pretty awful today. Tbh I don't see him winning last game of this series.. hope I'm wrong. Very, VERY glad to be wrong. This was way too close for comfort.. geez. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:11 Simplistik wrote: Speed was good. I hope he'll be back. But, for now... Let's enjoy some nice autumn leaves. GGs! | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:13 RowdierBob wrote: Can anyone translate Snows interview? The tastosis cast (probably out in 2-3 days) include translated interviews. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: so far all of speeds games have been the most exciting of this ssl. Very true, all his games have been fun. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:10 BLinD-RawR wrote: If it weren't for that final game where snow did in fact pull himself together, I would have said Snow didn't win this series, he survived it. actually I'll still say that, Snow really got exposed by Speed there. I think that's only fair if we don't think Speed actually played well... Did he? | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:43 Simplistik wrote: I think that's only fair if we don't think Speed actually played well... Did he? Speed played like a guy who knew he was mechanically better, this was a test of his decision-making and decisiveness, that only comes from experience. | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:21 BLinD-RawR wrote: today's broadcast went long, tomorrow's might go even longer sounds good! | ||
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On September 30 2024 23:43 Simplistik wrote: I think that's only fair if we don't think Speed actually played well... Did he? Snow is the soulkey of protoss, in that he can play extremely well from behind and somehow willpower his way to victory with amazing micro, great awareness and really good choices. Its like how SnOw almost beat Soulkey on Blitz while playing from behind last semi-finals. SnOw is championship material and Speed is not quite there yet. Speed overpressed, and while his vulture play facilitated by his crazy high apm and multitasking is awesome when it works, when it doesn't that's a lot of supply not achieving much and not being added to his ball of death. | ||
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On October 01 2024 00:42 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Snow is the soulkey of protoss, in that he can play extremely well from behind and somehow willpower his way to victory with amazing micro, great awareness and really good choices. Its like how SnOw almost beat Soulkey on Blitz while playing from behind last semi-finals. SnOw is championship material and Speed is not quite there yet. Speed overpressed, and while his vulture play facilitated by his crazy high apm and multitasking is awesome when it works, when it doesn't that's a lot of supply not achieving much and not being added to his ball of death. Speed's TvP seems to favor a more late game style with using vulture harass to free up supply for a bigger tank count for when he does make the push, compared to some other Terrans who prefer to push as fast as possible once maxed and good upgrades. | ||
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On September 30 2024 16:21 Peeano wrote: Just imagine Speed and Rain advancing for a moment. Lmao The man almost called it perfectly. | ||
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cheesehuehue
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On October 01 2024 00:42 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Snow is the soulkey of protoss, in that he can play extremely well from behind and somehow willpower his way to victory with amazing micro, great awareness and really good choices. Its like how SnOw almost beat Soulkey on Blitz while playing from behind last semi-finals. SnOw is championship material and Speed is not quite there yet. Speed overpressed, and while his vulture play facilitated by his crazy high apm and multitasking is awesome when it works, when it doesn't that's a lot of supply not achieving much and not being added to his ball of death. Hard disagree. Soulkey is much, much more creative than snow. Snow excels at micro, but not at strategy, where soulkey sets himself apart from other top Zergs (besides his well-known godly macro). Also, Blitz Y is heavily protoss-favored, so if anything, that match with Soulkey proved how Soulkey was able to beat Snow even when in disadvantage. | ||
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On October 01 2024 04:57 Destroyer wrote: WOW... Speed has lost today, but won my heart! Really, that was absolutely a bliss to watch and enjoy. It was kinda like watching a terran version of Bisu. What a play and multitasking! If he keeps his calm and get more experienced, this guy can win the whole thing in times to come. His vulture control and style most reminds me of Fantasy, lots of vulture harass, concept of trading vultures for economic damage while allowing Terran to secure more map vision and control to safely expand while building deathball. | ||
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On October 01 2024 07:02 Peeano wrote: Jesus. I knew Snow n Mini both advancing was the dream, but goddamnnnnnnnnnnnn... ALMOST Rain and Speed. Rain advancing first, aaaaaah, this looks bad on me I was semi-expecting a snow choke...but to Mini...to go this toe to toe vs speed is troublesome... Honestly if they face off, I can see Barracks beating Snow in the playoffs | ||
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TMNT
2864 Posts
Normally (as in 1-2 years up to mid 2024) Light was the only one with a positive win rate for Terran against the top 4 Protoss, while Snow dominated almost everybody with absurd win rate. But since August, Snow has only 30% win rate vs Light (used to be 50-55%), 40% vs Royal (used to be 65-70%) and 50% vs Barracks (used to be 80-90%). Doesn't help that he has been off form himself for months now. I think it's even worse for Best and Mini. Currently Protoss can't cope with Terran's 5-6 Fact meta. So yeah, one year ago you'd bet your house on Snow beating Barracks in a Bo7 (9-0'd him a couple of times) but this season it's 50/50. And if he gets Light /Royal he's not even favourite. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
538 Posts
every player played so well + Show Spoiler + except mini | ||
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femtehjulet
17 Posts
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Lazyer
United States361 Posts
Speed brought out some GREAT TvPs, really rooting for him in future ASLs/SSLs. Mini barely got to play, he lost the BO match ups which seems super harsh in PvP. Hope he doesn't beat himself up too much but it certainly was a hard group for any P. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey741 Posts
1)Rain kept his word from group selection ceremony that he will delete all other games and focus on BW. 2)SnOw made a great job with winning the final game.As he is 2-2 with speed totally. 3)Along with Barracks Speed seems exceeds expectations. 4)Mini does not seem interested ASL. He did not even prepare one game. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7808 Posts
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weiliem
2071 Posts
On October 01 2024 11:46 TMNT wrote: The meta shift in TvP, coincided with Flash return on the ladder, plus the Terran favored map pool, has seen significant changes in the win rate of the match up recently . Normally (as in 1-2 years up to mid 2024) Light was the only one with a positive win rate for Terran against the top 4 Protoss, while Snow dominated almost everybody with absurd win rate. But since August, Snow has only 30% win rate vs Light (used to be 50-55%), 40% vs Royal (used to be 65-70%) and 50% vs Barracks (used to be 80-90%). Doesn't help that he has been off form himself for months now. I think it's even worse for Best and Mini. Currently Protoss can't cope with Terran's 5-6 Fact meta. So yeah, one year ago you'd bet your house on Snow beating Barracks in a Bo7 (9-0'd him a couple of times) but this season it's 50/50. And if he gets Light /Royal he's not even favourite. What changed actually? Is it a map factor? Where fast carriers became more punishable? | ||
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Muff2n
United Kingdom250 Posts
Just when Barracks was becoming my favourite terran... | ||
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RogerChillingworth
3035 Posts
But SPEED! Speed is my new favorite Terran. Dude legit deserved a Ro8 this season. WOW. | ||
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TMNT
2864 Posts
On October 02 2024 00:27 RogerChillingworth wrote: Oh what a bad day to be a Mini fan. I was in a fetal position for hours. Just now recovering. But SPEED! Speed is my new favorite Terran. Dude legit deserved a Ro8 this season. WOW. Funny that when Mini offraces Terran he plays like Speed. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
3035 Posts
On October 02 2024 03:15 TMNT wrote: Funny that when Mini offraces Terran he plays like Speed. This I need to see. | ||
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TMNT
2864 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Royal starts with a 12 Nexus unharmed but spends the mid game chasing Vultures, allowing Mini to have total map control, be able to greed with early third, and come back from the opening deficit. | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden527 Posts
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Artas1984
131 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vsxVMpa.jpeg) | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria373 Posts
Shame about Snow advancing. | ||
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goody153
44201 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
Agree that the vulture style is very Fantasy-esque. Its very entertaining but I'm still not sure it's long term viable. Same with starport and dropship plays. What I really like is the aggression. I want to see more early 3-4 factory plays. | ||
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TMNT
2864 Posts
On October 08 2024 23:17 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Speed was easy to root for. Looking forward to him improving his game. Agree that the vulture style is very Fantasy-esque. Its very entertaining but I'm still not sure it's long term viable. Same with starport and dropship plays. What I really like is the aggression. I want to see more early 3-4 factory plays. You're right in doubting it. Speed style is indeed cool and gives us exciting game, but what most people don't seem to notice is that in most of the games he basically went for a semi all-in type of build, totally ignoring the possibility of DT - which in this case is reasonable since Snow very rarely goes DT. Also when others start to notice his style, like Sharp, it'll become more difficult to execute it because they know what to expect from him. | ||
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