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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 06:39:44
September 03 2024 06:36 GMT
#1

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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
257 Posts
September 03 2024 06:48 GMT
#2
Let's get some zergs through to the RO16
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 07:07 GMT
#3
Rainbow sheep incoming !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
80 Posts
September 03 2024 08:14 GMT
#4
Jaedong 2-0
Light 2-1
huro 1-2
Shine 0-2
Starcraft Remastered VN
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
52 Posts
September 03 2024 08:46 GMT
#5
Light and Shine. I would be really surprised if JD will make it, since his recent shape is poor, although i cheer for him.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5150 Posts
September 03 2024 09:03 GMT
#6
Light passes and then JD or Shine?
For all the JD fans I hope he can pass, but I syill gotta root for my boy Shine. Light vs YSC should be a good watch. Let's hope YSC prepared something juicy.
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 09:56 GMT
#7
Please a bit of LRing... I cannot watch the games
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 09:59 GMT
#8
Shine and JD for the zerg master race
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada421 Posts
September 03 2024 10:03 GMT
#9
well, this is a nice group with lots to offer:

-bag of builds man

-impeccable terran man

-mystery protoss who somehow has 51.1% vs T man

and of course our beloved Tyrant

lets go
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
TL+ Member
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:03 GMT
#10
This group may be tricky.

Light and jaedong, I guess?

But Light could play as bad as last seasons and then it's all open.
The heart's eternal vow
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands967 Posts
September 03 2024 10:09 GMT
#11
Light and Shine. I love Jaedong but shine will do some wacky shit that works well in bo1 but not in bo3
JDON MY SOUL!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:09 GMT
#12
- Ysc -- had his first win(s) and positive season(s) in Kcm.
- Light -- he made the qualifier finals look easy. I remember I was underwhelmed by his games in ASL ever since he won it.
- Shine -- probably all-ins at least one game, while the other one is a ZvZ guessing game. He's not looking as deadly as 10 years ago.
- Jd -- not sure how he plays nowadays but hasn't looked deadly either in like 5+ years? But as experience goes he has the mental strength to get out
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:10 GMT
#13
Jaedong has been in the best form he's been in a long time, lets see if that means anything.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada421 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 10:14:12
September 03 2024 10:13 GMT
#14
HUGE crowd, all seats taken, dozens of fans and onlookers standing in the back.

Shine appearing confident in interview. Shows no emotion.

Light looks bored.

YSC showing some nerves but also confident in expression.

JD missing that death stare of old.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
TL+ Member
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:16 GMT
#15
First match TvP, Light v Ysc, Dominator

Gogogo!
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:18 GMT
#16
YSC played some nice games this season. Let's hope he can show a solid performance!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:20 GMT
#17
Gateway on top of the ramp into gas. Barracks into gas.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 10:20 GMT
#18
I think Shine will do some non sense things... which somehow are ideal for just one game

But I can't follow the games so I rely on you guys to LR..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:20 GMT
#19
Core starts before barracks is finished.
YSC first scout, Light last.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:22 GMT
#20
Proxy pylon on highground outside Terran base, gateway. SCV misses it!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:23 GMT
#21
And the vulture misses it as well. Robo at the proxy location.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:23 GMT
#22
Weird early game from Protoss:

Early zealot pressure from a forward gateway, but then an additional proxy gateway building on the middle of the map

Edit: Light misses the spot twice. And now a robo is building there too
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:23 GMT
#23
Finally scouted, shuttle is probably nearly done.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
September 03 2024 10:23 GMT
#24
lmao he defo heard the crowd
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:24 GMT
#25
Terran in their lowland main was sensing some danger, the build was a gas + expansion to tanks
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:25 GMT
#26
Terran tries to hold their main with siege tanks. Protoss is shuttling in dragoons, then a reaver.
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:25 GMT
#27
OH MY GOD HURO THREW IT ALL AWAY?!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:25 GMT
#28
Pretty tense elevator and reaver battle.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:25 GMT
#29
HOW COULD YOU MOVE YOUR SHUTTLE INTO TURRET RANGE LIKE THAT
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:26 GMT
#30
Light loses control of the natural, but shuttle with both reavers goes down.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 10:27:12
September 03 2024 10:26 GMT
#31
Huro had this game in the fuckin BAG if he doesn't maneuver his shuttle like an absolute idiot. Can't believe that happened
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:27 GMT
#32
YSC basically had this. With two reavers on the ramp Light was finished. Some slow reaver micro didn't work.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:28 GMT
#33
Protoss has two reavers and successfully busts the natural. Bombs a scv train with two reavers as well. A camouflage'd terran turret however destroys the shuttle with both reavers in it.

Light had one or two tanks sieged but it was enough to hold on afterwards. gg
The heart's eternal vow
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China168 Posts
September 03 2024 10:28 GMT
#34
The second tragedy of SSL this season
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:29 GMT
#35
The Tragedy of the Fall presented by Motive and Huro
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:31 GMT
#36
Poll: Recommend Light vs Huro

Yes (10)
 
83%

No (1)
 
8%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Huro

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2864 Posts
September 03 2024 10:31 GMT
#37
That's like D rank mistake lol. What an embarrassment. At least Motive got unlucky. YSC is just bad.

K League Protoss players, ladies and gentlemen.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:32 GMT
#38
watching ZvZ is such an ass clencher when you care about the result.

go jaedong.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia376 Posts
September 03 2024 10:33 GMT
#39
On September 03 2024 19:31 TMNT wrote:
That's like D rank mistake lol. What an embarrassment. At least Motive got unlucky. YSC is just bad.

K League Protoss players, ladies and gentlemen.

This
j.r.r.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:36 GMT
#40
jaedong 9p speed vs 12 hatch shine
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:36 GMT
#41
On September 03 2024 19:31 TMNT wrote:
That's like D rank mistake lol. What an embarrassment. At least Motive got unlucky. YSC is just bad.

K League Protoss players, ladies and gentlemen.

Haha, that seems a bit harsh. Could just be nerves...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:37 GMT
#42
I can't watch, think and write fast enough to capture the action of a Zvz is the cold truth.
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:37 GMT
#43
This should be quick.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:37 GMT
#44
Jaedong gets 9-pool speed against hatch-first.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:38 GMT
#45
With Jaedong's ling micro this looks really over.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 10:38 GMT
#46
On September 03 2024 19:36 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 19:31 TMNT wrote:
That's like D rank mistake lol. What an embarrassment. At least Motive got unlucky. YSC is just bad.

K League Protoss players, ladies and gentlemen.

Haha, that seems a bit harsh. Could just be nerves...

Did he see the turret? It was below the Cc so it is possible he was just unlucky too. But in general I agree with Tmnt, I always get annoyed by watching Ysc play in Kcm/asl etc. because his errors and bad decision making.
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:39 GMT
#47
Jaedong has spire almost finished too and shine doesnt even have lair
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:39 GMT
#48
HE COULDN'T GET THE HATCH DAMN IT
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:39 GMT
#49
Shine lets the natural hatch finish. JD kills two drones, hatchery barely survives. Speedlings get into Shine's base kill another drone.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:39 GMT
#50
HE GOT THE HATCH!

Shine should just gg now lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:39 GMT
#51
JD with spire already started. Shine no lair
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:40 GMT
#52
Jaedong muta's coming and shine just ggs out
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:40 GMT
#53
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs Shine

Yes (10)
 
83%

No (1)
 
8%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs Shine

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:41 GMT
#54
Mostly a build order win but I don't think Shine can use that as an excuse. 12 hatch on a 3p map where you can get trapped on low ground in your own main is extremely suspect.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:51 GMT
#55
Recommended game if you love Jaedong or hate Shine.
Otherwise... you've seen this many times before.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:51 GMT
#56
winner's game Light vs Jaedong on Deja Vu
winner's game Light vs Jaedong on Deja Vu
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:52 GMT
#57
I used to rather dislike Shine for knocking out Bisu on more than one occasion. But I've come to accept, grudgingly, that he is/was very good at ZvP.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51484 Posts
September 03 2024 10:53 GMT
#58
people from new york and manila at the studio to see jaedong
Commentator
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:54 GMT
#59
12 hatch vs 1rax cc
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:54 GMT
#60
Semi-wall vs 12-hatch
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:54 GMT
#61
Weird trivia: I think Jaedong's ID changed between his two matches.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:55 GMT
#62
Cowardly marine runs away from a drone.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:57 GMT
#63
Light calling an audible on JD's most likely 3rd base, hatch was almost finished but JD cancels.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:57 GMT
#64
Light moves out with one firebat and one marine.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:58 GMT
#65
Somehow Light has read JD's third location blind. Amazing.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:58 GMT
#66
JD throws away some mutas trying to prevent a turrets from going down at Lights main raxs.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:59 GMT
#67
solid muta terrorism from jaedong here.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 10:59 GMT
#68
Light holds the mutas and JD is stuck on two bases.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 10:59 GMT
#69
JD managing to get quite a few Marine kills with his mutas and is really doing havoc to Light's backline. SCVs are mostly safe due to the amount of turrets at expo but main isnt so well defended. JD manages to get his 3rd down safely.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 10:59 GMT
#70
more importantly just consistently denying that factory.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:00 GMT
#71
JD gets in with the mutas to deny the factory and main gas mining.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:00 GMT
#72
That was good damage.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:00 GMT
#73
On September 03 2024 19:59 Simplistik wrote:
Light holds the mutas and JD is stuck on two bases.


3rd hatch is a little late but its up and running now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:00 GMT
#74
Hive starts for JD and Light sees the timing with a timely scan.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:03:30
September 03 2024 11:02 GMT
#75
I'm glad to see the classic bio vs muta of stellar micro-players like Light and Jd.

This was like Barracks getting that one stim timing in group A.
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:02 GMT
#76
Jaedong just couldn't hold off the counterattack though, had those lurkers come out even 5 seconds earlier he could have held.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:02 GMT
#77
JD was really greedy on sunkens this game and that allows Light to stroll in when he sees the fast Hive, knowing JD won't have lurkers to defend. Solid timing by Light.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:03:43
September 03 2024 11:03 GMT
#78
Wow, the pre-lurker timing grabs the win. 20 min group for Light.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:03 GMT
#79
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

Yes (5)
 
50%

If you have time (4)
 
40%

No (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
September 03 2024 11:03 GMT
#80
JD had that and stuffed up hugely with muta positioning.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
211 Posts
September 03 2024 11:04 GMT
#81
no units to scout the movement of lights army... sad, i think he could have held if mutas were poking the group of marines on the way
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:05:52
September 03 2024 11:05 GMT
#82
JD didn’t keep tabs with Lights army with the mutas. Just blindly thought he was going to the expo until it was too late to recover.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:14 GMT
#83
wow really lucky overlord scout on his overpool
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51484 Posts
September 03 2024 11:14 GMT
#84
blind 12 nexus is suicide vs shine lmao
Commentator
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:17 GMT
#85
Lost all advantage of the 12nex by losing a bunch of probes and mining time to the overpool after pulling 12 drones from his main to defend his incomplete wall. 3hh probably cracks him wide open momentarily.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:17 GMT
#86
Game starts : 4 probes

5 minutes later: Protoss has less than 4 probes.

That's 9 hatch attack vs. a 12 nexus.
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:18 GMT
#87
At least the protoss is still in-game. Zergs may go 3 hatch hydra but they can be wasteful with it and run up against 7 cannons and die stuttering (which I am hoping for)
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:19 GMT
#88
On September 03 2024 20:18 PVJ wrote:
At least the protoss is still in-game. Zergs may go 3 hatch hydra but they can be wasteful with it and run up against 7 cannons and die stuttering (which I am hoping for)


He doesn't have enough money for 7 cannons lmao. died with 3.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
211 Posts
September 03 2024 11:20 GMT
#89
time for another zvz coinflip
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
September 03 2024 11:20 GMT
#90
Huro is pretty shit.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:21 GMT
#91
Maybe not the best group of all time...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:22:14
September 03 2024 11:22 GMT
#92
Putting two Zerg in one group for no good reason. Will the organisers ever learn?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:23:51
September 03 2024 11:22 GMT
#93
It is interesting that the high-ground photon cannon was seen by low-ground Zerg units.

Anyway, 3 cannons close to the forge-line and no cannons in depth -- protoss loses to the first wave of hydras.

The group is playing out as it is supposed to, no upsets or surprises in the results. This is why I don't like "normal" groups and wouldn't like Bo3 matches in Ro24. It's not entertaining, it's long, and boring to have every group play out with the least amount of standard deviation
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:23 GMT
#94
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

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Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (1)
 
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Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:24 GMT
#95
I guess it'll be an easy write-up...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:26 GMT
#96
On September 03 2024 20:19 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 20:18 PVJ wrote:
At least the protoss is still in-game. Zergs may go 3 hatch hydra but they can be wasteful with it and run up against 7 cannons and die stuttering (which I am hoping for)


He doesn't have enough money for 7 cannons lmao. died with 3.


The irrational hopes a protoss player may have got the best of me. Obviously there was a max 1.3% chance the game would go this way.
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:28 GMT
#97
The correct play here is surely a middle of the road build now...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:28 GMT
#98
Nyoken is casting solo (really well) so at least considering his position it is a good group -- short games, simple situations, easy game states
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:30 GMT
#99
That's also true...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:31 GMT
#100
The last match is a Zvz between Jd and shine. There is a single drone difference and both opened gas. Who's going to train their mutas better? Who has better nutritions to keep scourges in top shape?? Can't wait to figure it out
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:32 GMT
#101
Speed for JD, lair for Shine.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:33 GMT
#102
JD micro not good enough, Shine holds, sunken finishes.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:34 GMT
#103
Hey, if this matchup is a coin-flip it makes total sense that given the same two players and two games between them if the first is won by Jd the second should be won by Shine (just joking, I know what coin-flip means)
The heart's eternal vow
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:35 GMT
#104
Later mutas, but more gas for JD? Maybe...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:36 GMT
#105
JD tries a ling counter, but again, pretty ineffective. Stragglers get a drone though.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:37 GMT
#106
this muta vs muta isa real nail biter theyre so even
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:37 GMT
#107
Very even air exchange.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:39:13
September 03 2024 11:39 GMT
#108
Could this actually turn into a long ZvZ to top off this group?!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:39 GMT
#109
jaedong saw the spores and rightly got a 3rd hatch.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:39 GMT
#110
On September 03 2024 20:39 Simplistik wrote:
Could this actually turn into a long ZvZ to top off this group?!


don't jinx it.
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:39 GMT
#111
Neither of them can get an advantage in these air fights. Shine's elected to sit in his base under spore and try and bait JD in while JD is getting active and taking a 3rd. Might end up being troublesome for Shine here.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
September 03 2024 11:39 GMT
#112
Shine has spores, JD takes a third base.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:40 GMT
#113
shine has +1 armor, jaedong doesn't
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:42 GMT
#114
JD's +1 armor timing came in right on time wow.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:42 GMT
#115
jaedong's +1 kicked in in that exchange.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:43 GMT
#116
wouldn't be a bad idea to get queens for ensnare.
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 11:43:46
September 03 2024 11:43 GMT
#117
With full info, should Shine transition to hive?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:44 GMT
#118
or you know just get better scourge hits for jaedong.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:44 GMT
#119
To be fair and serious: larva management in a Zvz environ must be crazy hard, and suffocatingly tight
The heart's eternal vow
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
September 03 2024 11:44 GMT
#120
JD looking alive and Shine looking dead.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:45 GMT
#121
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
September 03 2024 11:45 GMT
#122
Unpucker your buttholes lads, we did it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:45 GMT
#123
Shine pretty much always had bad scourge connects in the match.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 03 2024 11:46 GMT
#124
I think this was maybe my first liquibet point this season! Thanks guys for the thread.
The heart's eternal vow
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 11:46 GMT
#125
Please..who won ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2864 Posts
September 03 2024 11:46 GMT
#126
On September 03 2024 20:22 Simplistik wrote:
Putting two Zerg in one group for no good reason. Will the organisers ever learn?

Actually the organizers know what they're doing. It's for a good reason: to get JD the best chance to advance. Almost every season he was paired with the weakest non-Terran tier 2 player (mostly Shine and Shuttle).

There are 5 Zergs in Ro24 and 6 groups. But they have to put two Zergs in one group. That tells you everything.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 11:47 GMT
#127
On September 03 2024 20:46 prosatan wrote:
Please..who won ?

JD
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
September 03 2024 11:47 GMT
#128
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"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Souden
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
September 03 2024 11:48 GMT
#129
Nice, JD made it through!! I think Shine got a bit nervous and made those spores, it sets him back if both decides to play defensively until they have massive amount of mutas, in which JD would be ahead. Shine had a slight advantage at the beginning going 12 hatch vs JD 11 hatch, and blocked JD's ling attacks but was unable to find the overlords with his early mutas to keep the advantage. Was a great ZvZ nevertheless.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1070 Posts
September 03 2024 11:49 GMT
#130
Going into the 19th season, one would think the general public know how it works, T1vT4, T2vT3,
Calculating with their ASL points
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
September 03 2024 11:52 GMT
#131
On September 03 2024 20:48 Souden wrote:
Nice, JD made it through!! I think Shine got a bit nervous and made those spores, it sets him back if both decides to play defensively until they have massive amount of mutas, in which JD would be ahead. Shine had a slight advantage at the beginning going 12 hatch vs JD 11 hatch, and blocked JD's ling attacks but was unable to find the overlords with his early mutas to keep the advantage. Was a great ZvZ nevertheless.

Shine would’ve won if he moved into JD’s main when JD’s mutas were at his third. Just didn’t commit. Easy to say though when you can see the whole map I guess.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
211 Posts
September 03 2024 11:53 GMT
#132
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 12:09 GMT
#133
On September 03 2024 20:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 20:46 prosatan wrote:
Please..who won ?

JD

Yes baby !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
September 03 2024 12:10 GMT
#134
Bring out the rainbow sheeps!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
September 03 2024 14:05 GMT
#135
I'm saving the rainbow sheep for when he makes a deeper run
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 03 2024 14:17 GMT
#136
Nyoken is a damn good caster. Great cast of the games as always
gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
September 03 2024 17:36 GMT
#137
On September 03 2024 20:22 PVJ wrote:
It is interesting that the high-ground photon cannon was seen by low-ground Zerg units.

Anyway, 3 cannons close to the forge-line and no cannons in depth -- protoss loses to the first wave of hydras.

The group is playing out as it is supposed to, no upsets or surprises in the results. This is why I don't like "normal" groups and wouldn't like Bo3 matches in Ro24. It's not entertaining, it's long, and boring to have every group play out with the least amount of standard deviation


It was the other OL who gave him vision, coming from the south
gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
September 03 2024 17:37 GMT
#138
On September 03 2024 23:17 TentativePanda wrote:
Nyoken is a damn good caster. Great cast of the games as always

Yeah, he rules!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19274 Posts
September 03 2024 17:48 GMT
#139
On September 04 2024 02:36 gingerfluffmuffnr2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 20:22 PVJ wrote:
It is interesting that the high-ground photon cannon was seen by low-ground Zerg units.

Anyway, 3 cannons close to the forge-line and no cannons in depth -- protoss loses to the first wave of hydras.

The group is playing out as it is supposed to, no upsets or surprises in the results. This is why I don't like "normal" groups and wouldn't like Bo3 matches in Ro24. It's not entertaining, it's long, and boring to have every group play out with the least amount of standard deviation


It was the other OL who gave him vision, coming from the south

Gotta nerf overlord vision after that one.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3035 Posts
September 03 2024 22:17 GMT
#140
3 zergs in the round of 16. YEAH!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2864 Posts
September 04 2024 03:23 GMT
#141
Not like Protoss is much better. Only 4 so far. Maybe 5 at the end of the day. Maybe not.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
September 04 2024 03:34 GMT
#142
On September 04 2024 12:23 TMNT wrote:
Not like Protoss is much better. Only 4 so far. Maybe 5 at the end of the day. Maybe not.

The ro16 has 16 slots, so the most equal division is 5-5-6. If a race has 5 or 6 slots, that's pretty equal representation. Zerg is underrepresented (3), Terran is overrepresented (7-9 depending on Group F), and Protoss is ambiguous with 4-6 depending on Group F.
My strategy is to fork people.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States361 Posts
September 04 2024 03:41 GMT
#143
jeez YSC in game CHOKED so hard, wondering if he felt like his only chance in this group was cheese (econ cheese in losers)

lights lookin good in TvZ, very questionable performance in the TvP but he got bailed out just like my liquibets
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7910 Posts
September 04 2024 08:20 GMT
#144
On September 04 2024 12:41 Lazyer wrote:
jeez YSC in game CHOKED so hard, wondering if he felt like his only chance in this group was cheese (econ cheese in losers)

lights lookin good in TvZ, very questionable performance in the TvP but he got bailed out just like my liquibets

I mean, he was insanely unlucky not to scout the proxy. Can’t really blame him for that. The defense was actually quite impressive imo.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
September 05 2024 13:51 GMT
#145
Happy to see JD advance.
Skol
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1692 Posts
September 06 2024 00:34 GMT
#146
LIGHT IS SO FUCKING LUCKY

JD misses the army movement and "happens" to get to the natural

telbo runs 2 reavers into a turret

fucking luckiest player ever doesnt deserve any ASL trophies, cant wait for him to bounce out of the ro 16
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands967 Posts
September 06 2024 03:52 GMT
#147
On September 06 2024 09:34 ShowTheLights wrote:
LIGHT IS SO FUCKING LUCKY

JD misses the army movement and "happens" to get to the natural

telbo runs 2 reavers into a turret

fucking luckiest player ever doesnt deserve any ASL trophies, cant wait for him to bounce out of the ro 16

hurr durr
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Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-06 17:31:09
September 06 2024 17:29 GMT
#148
On September 03 2024 19:28 PVJ wrote:
A camouflage'd terran turret however destroys the shuttle with both reavers in it.



Good one! Yes, it all makes sense now - it was a cloaked turret! Honestly, YSC's fuck-up was far worse than Motive's! You could say Motive was unlucky, because Rush did a ''deviation'', but YSC was just careless and deserved all the rage and trash talk in the world. What is even more sad, that both of these epic Protoss fails came from Mind's suggestions (which just confirms that he is the ''brain Terran'' and a genius), and the Protoss did not bring their own ideas!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5150 Posts
September 06 2024 17:44 GMT
#149
On September 07 2024 02:29 Artas1984 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 19:28 PVJ wrote:
A camouflage'd terran turret however destroys the shuttle with both reavers in it.



Good one! Yes, it all makes sense now - it was a cloaked turret! Honestly, YSC's fuck-up was far worse than Motive's! You could say Motive was unlucky, because Rush did a ''deviation'', but YSC was just careless and deserved all the rage and trash talk in the world. What is even more sad, that both of these epic Protoss fails came from Mind's suggestions (which just confirms that he is the ''brain Terran'' and a genius), and the Protoss did not bring their own ideas!

To be fair. Terrans probably know about the best PvT cheeses cuz they endured so many lmao.
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Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-06 22:54:15
September 06 2024 22:49 GMT
#150
OMG REVENGE IS A BITCH SHINE! Serves you well for eliminating JD 2-0 back at ASL14 RO24! The exact opposite events happened now - i wonder if anybody noticed that!?

''INNER DONG TANTRUM CHANT STARTED''
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey452 Posts
September 10 2024 06:36 GMT
#151
On September 03 2024 20:46 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2024 20:22 Simplistik wrote:
Putting two Zerg in one group for no good reason. Will the organisers ever learn?

Actually the organizers know what they're doing. It's for a good reason: to get JD the best chance to advance. Almost every season he was paired with the weakest non-Terran tier 2 player (mostly Shine and Shuttle).

There are 5 Zergs in Ro24 and 6 groups. But they have to put two Zergs in one group. That tells you everything.

Do you suppose it would work if YSC didn't fudge the shuttle and indeed won.
Then, JD would have to face Light twice. No, I don't think they did...
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