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ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-27 04:50:02
August 27 2024 04:49 GMT
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 05:49 GMT
#2
Group B today!

I'll miss the first game ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Morti1
Profile Joined August 2024
5 Posts
August 27 2024 05:53 GMT
#3
Scan 2-0 ez

SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
80 Posts
August 27 2024 06:00 GMT
#4
Mini 2-0
Bisu 2-1
Scan 1-2
sSak 0-2
Starcraft Remastered VN
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada421 Posts
August 27 2024 06:03 GMT
#5
gosh i want every player to advance...

bisu plz...

and go scan!
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5150 Posts
August 27 2024 07:33 GMT
#6
Can't watch, but my sincere condolences to Scan's family.
FBH #1!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
August 27 2024 08:05 GMT
#7
Mini & Bisu hopefully..

FIGHTING!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3334 Posts
August 27 2024 08:16 GMT
#8
I am hoping for Bisu and Mini to both advance. If one of them fails to advance, Scan better take that spot!
김택용 Fighting!
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
492 Posts
August 27 2024 08:24 GMT
#9
Who is the 2nd seed? Is it Bisu or Ssak?
Broodwar Forever
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-27 08:49:24
August 27 2024 08:48 GMT
#10
On August 27 2024 17:24 namkraft wrote:
Who is the 2nd seed? Is it Bisu or Ssak?

Bisu is tier 2, sSak is tier 3

Tier 1: Mini (10186 pts) / Rush (8583 pts) / Light (7475 pts) / Queen (7426 pts) / JyJ (6928 pts) / Best (6126 pts)
Tier 2: Bisu (5751 pts) / Royal (5726 pts) / Acton (5374 pts) / Rain (5180 pts) / Mind (4504 pts) / Shine (2908 pts)
Tier 3: Jaedong (2888 pts) / Stork (2509 pts) / sSak (2367 pts) / Barracks (2277 pts) / Sea (1798 pts) / Sacsri (1454 pts)
Tier 4: Free (1401 pts) / Speed (459 pts) / YSC (288 pts) / Scan (159 pts) / Motive (0 pts) / 1127 (0 pts)

odi profanum vulgus et arceo
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
492 Posts
August 27 2024 09:21 GMT
#11
On August 27 2024 17:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2024 17:24 namkraft wrote:
Who is the 2nd seed? Is it Bisu or Ssak?

Bisu is tier 2, sSak is tier 3

Tier 1: Mini (10186 pts) / Rush (8583 pts) / Light (7475 pts) / Queen (7426 pts) / JyJ (6928 pts) / Best (6126 pts)
Tier 2: Bisu (5751 pts) / Royal (5726 pts) / Acton (5374 pts) / Rain (5180 pts) / Mind (4504 pts) / Shine (2908 pts)
Tier 3: Jaedong (2888 pts) / Stork (2509 pts) / sSak (2367 pts) / Barracks (2277 pts) / Sea (1798 pts) / Sacsri (1454 pts)
Tier 4: Free (1401 pts) / Speed (459 pts) / YSC (288 pts) / Scan (159 pts) / Motive (0 pts) / 1127 (0 pts)



Thank you. I was confused cuz in the match-up it shows Ssak on the left and Bisu on the right.
Broodwar Forever
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1383 Posts
August 27 2024 09:40 GMT
#12
gogo scan, no mercy today
mada mada dane
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 09:43 GMT
#13
As far as I remember both Mini and Bisu played in the very first groups of the qualifiers and both went through without a fuss. I think I might have fast-forwarded Ssak's game, perhaps he was in a TvT finals in his group or something. Anyway I have nothing against him but nothing for him either. Scan in the tournament is really nice. I hope the two protosses advance though!

Yesterday the new maps have looked great so I hope to see more strats played out on them. Or perhaps, a frustrating game so I could see why some say this is the worst map pool of Asl ever.
The heart's eternal vow
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 09:58 GMT
#14
I hope the initial interview takes a bit more
Maybe I can catch even the first game !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 09:59 GMT
#15
Jaedong - tier 3 ... I get sad when I read this...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden764 Posts
August 27 2024 10:06 GMT
#16
Lets go Scan
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:07 GMT
#17
Oh wow, good to hear gypsy back casting. I think they made a good casting duo last season with Nyoken
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:15 GMT
#18
I was surprised how few things changed on the broadcast from ASL17. I was hoping for some better stats or player camera.

Even the intro animation with crystals and torn buildings is a repeat.

The current state is good too so I'm not complaining
The heart's eternal vow
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5150 Posts
August 27 2024 10:17 GMT
#19
Scan fighting!
FBH #1!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:26 GMT
#20
Mini is just pressuring wave after wave, Scan keeps up economz and supply-wise
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:30 GMT
#21
Protoss lacks the tier 1 gateway units but still was able to harass through and skim the terran army one by one.

Now I think protoss will rule and end this game
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:32 GMT
#22
Reaver is might, reaver is glory
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
August 27 2024 10:32 GMT
#23
Poll: Recommend Mini vs Scan?

Yes (10)
 
91%

If you have time (1)
 
9%

No (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Scan?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
August 27 2024 10:32 GMT
#24
One base observer, because? Well, if you hit a mine-expand you win?
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
August 27 2024 10:37 GMT
#25
We've seen some fun build orders already. I want more!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
August 27 2024 10:37 GMT
#26
Damn I thought Mini was actually in a spot of bother at one point there and he just dismantled Scan’s push.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:42 GMT
#27
Terran opens with gas but also Bisu opens fast expand on 1 gateway with a forge. This looks like it will become a different midgame almost the opposite of the previous one.
The heart's eternal vow
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands967 Posts
August 27 2024 10:43 GMT
#28
On August 27 2024 19:37 RowdierBob wrote:
Damn I thought Mini was actually in a spot of bother at one point there and he just dismantled Scan’s push.


Scan's sieges were very clumped up and took maximum reaver damage in each fight on the map.
JDON MY SOUL!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-27 10:45:30
August 27 2024 10:43 GMT
#29
Observer builds are OP :D

Edit: Okay forge 3-gate is okay too not that much worse than going observer
The heart's eternal vow
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
August 27 2024 10:47 GMT
#30
Ugh disappointing from Ssak. Agree with Gypsy - seems he had no confidence/desire to play a macro game with Bisu. Regardless of who wins next, hard to see either of Mini/Bisu losing the final game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
August 27 2024 10:50 GMT
#31
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

Yes (7)
 
54%

If you have time (5)
 
38%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands967 Posts
August 27 2024 10:57 GMT
#32
On August 27 2024 19:47 RowdierBob wrote:
Ugh disappointing from Ssak. Agree with Gypsy - seems he had no confidence/desire to play a macro game with Bisu. Regardless of who wins next, hard to see either of Mini/Bisu losing the final game.


which is sad and weird, because sSak plays amazing long games
JDON MY SOUL!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 10:59 GMT
#33
Interested to get a pvp on deja vu. Is it going to take 30 minutes?

I hope Mini comes out on top of the group!
The heart's eternal vow
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 11:06 GMT
#34
come on Bisu ! you got this !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 11:07 GMT
#35
Holy shit Mini got like 10 goons with the scarabs. But he couldn't really turn tides.
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
August 27 2024 11:08 GMT
#36
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

Yes (12)
 
75%

If you have time (4)
 
25%

No (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4127 Posts
August 27 2024 11:11 GMT
#37
On August 27 2024 20:07 PVJ wrote:
Holy shit Mini got like 10 goons with the scarabs. But he couldn't really turn tides.

The shuttle loss was a deal breaker in that situation
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3334 Posts
August 27 2024 11:18 GMT
#38
On August 27 2024 20:11 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2024 20:07 PVJ wrote:
Holy shit Mini got like 10 goons with the scarabs. But he couldn't really turn tides.

The shuttle loss was a deal breaker in that situation

Yep. Once he lost that shuttle and didn't have one in his natural with his reaver, there was no way he would defend against Bisu's reaver/shuttle unless Bisu somehow ran his shuttle into goons.
김택용 Fighting!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3334 Posts
August 27 2024 11:39 GMT
#39
Scan had the better early game opening but Ssak just outplayed him positionally and made better decisions regarding army composition. The wraith switch and the scan on Scan's two starports that were pumping out wraiths were perfect.
김택용 Fighting!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
August 27 2024 11:40 GMT
#40
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

Yes (7)
 
58%

If you have time (5)
 
42%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 11:43 GMT
#41
Now mini needs to focus and not do anything stupid! And my LB will be safe
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3334 Posts
August 27 2024 11:49 GMT
#42
This early game opening is looking for Mini. Cross map nexus first.
김택용 Fighting!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 11:50 GMT
#43
Mini is playing with 520 apm...holy....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 11:52 GMT
#44
Clumsy goons... they have to step into a mine even if they have clear vision of it !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3334 Posts
August 27 2024 11:56 GMT
#45
I don't even know what Ssak is trying to do. This looks like a horrible build to do against Nexus first. Mines into 3 CC would've been better.
김택용 Fighting!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
August 27 2024 11:56 GMT
#46
This game seems a lot closer than Gypsy thinks.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 11:59 GMT
#47
Mini is way way ahead!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 12:00 GMT
#48
Mini loses a milion goons to a mine....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 12:01 GMT
#49
Fantasy gg timing incoming...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 27 2024 12:03 GMT
#50
Man, mini is looking so disappointed even when he wins
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
August 27 2024 12:03 GMT
#51
So it seems Gypsy was right, lol. Poor Ssak got crushed.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2059 Posts
August 27 2024 12:05 GMT
#52
Turns out you need units to win games.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50437 Posts
August 27 2024 12:05 GMT
#53
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

If you have time (7)
 
58%

Yes (3)
 
25%

No (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5150 Posts
August 27 2024 13:31 GMT
#54
Expected result. Glad it happened. I like that Scan tried to play assertive at least, but the level difference was obvious.
FBH #1!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
August 27 2024 14:23 GMT
#55
extremely satisfying results so far

hopefully this will continue for the rest of the ro24 groups too
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 27 2024 16:02 GMT
#56
The tvt mirror was really interesting not sure how much it was due to the map but as gypsy mentioned a lot of movement and contact emerges when the match goes into 10+ minutes so positions became stale quicker then on wide open maps. And deja vu also enabled to split the bases of the map very well so both had the economy to gobble up and kill each other in the middle. Ssak is such a weird player I can't exactly understand his thought process -- right in the next game he just didn't play. He moved and built things and that was it. Even the biggest loss was an indirect mine hit after his re-re-relanded CC has been killed.

Good group for aiur tonight!
The heart's eternal vow
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3035 Posts
August 27 2024 21:58 GMT
#57
Can't believe my guy lost to Bisu

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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1070 Posts
August 28 2024 00:06 GMT
#58
On August 28 2024 01:02 PVJ wrote:Ssak is such a weird player I can't exactly understand his thought process


Exactly! Sometimes, he just looks like hes o.k to play while behind... Its like he is cruisin' hoping his opponent will make a random mistake or "something" will happens. It doesnt feel like he fully understand he is playing against an irl opponent lol.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8312 Posts
August 28 2024 07:50 GMT
#59
Don't forget that we have Group C today !!

I think Rush and Royal are favorites , but i've heard motive is a beast online !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7910 Posts
August 28 2024 09:13 GMT
#60
Gypsy really trashed Ssak. I don’t know enough about the meta, and just recently came back to be, but does Terran really has better option in a position like this than this upgrade terran style these days? Are you supposed to go fast 3rd and / or go for a 5 or 6 facts push?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 28 2024 10:05 GMT
#61
On August 28 2024 18:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Gypsy really trashed Ssak. I don’t know enough about the meta, and just recently came back to be, but does Terran really has better option in a position like this than this upgrade terran style these days? Are you supposed to go fast 3rd and / or go for a 5 or 6 facts push?

I'm a protoss so I don't know but I remember he actually did continue his thought process on what terran does nowadays (7 factories, lots of unit)
The heart's eternal vow
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-30 20:51:19
August 30 2024 20:08 GMT
#62
While i fancy the protoss as a race over terran, i have never been so supportive of a terran win in a match {Scan vs. Mini} - it really hurt watching Scan lose. Funny how Bisu keeps eliminating Ssak from further advancements in the tournament. This was their fourth series in ASL with Bisu leading the series 4 to 0 and and overall victory/lose score of 7-2. In the end i am just happy that Bisu defeated Mini as Mini is way less predictable!
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