As always, thanks for making the thread Blind-rawR.

This is an impossible match to be 100% sure either way, imo.

Rush is a world class Terran, two of Flashes races are not as good as rushes Terran.
Rush has a rather poor tvt, considering his overall strength, so Flash should roll him there.

If we have 3 TvZ's, Rush should win, if Flash gets 3 Terrans he should win, but the road inbetween has so many variables and on top of that, any protoss that is willing to cheese is always a threat to any terran.

From an objective point of view, Rush should be the favorite, from an rts fan, I think it is fair to give Flash a 50/50 shot.
The randomness will make Rush far more nervous then it will make Flash
but, Flash is still human and playing ZvT vs Rush is a daunting task for all but a hand full of elite zergs.

I cannot wait to see what happens, Flash made this entire tournament better with his historic and brave choice, but Rush is hungry and so close to the top. Gonna be awesome.

whylessness

United States376 Posts

October 18 2020 03:50 GMT

i look forward to flash eliminating the last terran from the tournament.

TaardadAiel

Bulgaria750 Posts

October 18 2020 05:26 GMT

On October 18 2020 12:50 whylessness wrote:
i look forward to flash eliminating the last terran from the tournament.

😠

whaski

Finland577 Posts

October 18 2020 06:50 GMT

On October 18 2020 12:37 AttackZerg wrote:
As always, thanks for making the thread Blind-rawR.

This is an impossible match to be 100% sure either way, imo.

Rush is a world class Terran, two of Flashes races are not as good as rushes Terran.
Rush has a rather poor tvt, considering his overall strength, so Flash should roll him there.

If we have 3 TvZ's, Rush should win, if Flash gets 3 Terrans he should win, but the road inbetween has so many variables and on top of that, any protoss that is willing to cheese is always a threat to any terran.

From an objective point of view, Rush should be the favorite, from an rts fan, I think it is fair to give Flash a 50/50 shot.
The randomness will make Rush far more nervous then it will make Flash
but, Flash is still human and playing ZvT vs Rush is a daunting task for all but a hand full of elite zergs.

I cannot wait to see what happens, Flash made this entire tournament better with his historic and brave choice, but Rush is hungry and so close to the top. Gonna be awesome.

I have to disagree, Rush is strong in tvt... unless its offline match. Flash needs to roll zerg for Rush to have a even match, his imba decission making is too strong with Terran and Protoss. And then there are maps like Plasma and Ringing Bloom. Looks bad for Rush

darktreb

United States3019 Posts

October 18 2020 07:06 GMT

This is the first time Flash has ever had to play a meaningful RvT. There are no Terrans left in the tournament, and who knows if Flash sticks with Random in the future. That means that for ANY ideas Flash has had over the years for "why doesn't someone do X against me", now is the time.

It's like Shine's "I saved this build for ten years to use against Flash" x10.

Even if Flash wasn't by far the best player, he'd still be very successful because of coming up with builds and cheeses. He just doesn't use them as much as he could, because he doesn't need to. But now that he's no longer an obvious favorite, we get to see what he can conjure up, like the build from the first PvP against Snow.

Skill-wise this is 50/50, but Flash's cleverness probably makes it more like 70/30. I'd be surprised if he doesn't pull off at least one "one time use" build that singlehandedly wins him the game, and that means Rush has to take 3 of the remaining 4 to win.

SenorChang

Australia4730 Posts

October 18 2020 07:27 GMT

looking forward to some well planned builds by flash!

Sr18

Netherlands1141 Posts

October 18 2020 07:31 GMT

Never thought I could be excited about the prospect of watching a Flash vs T match, but here we are.

RowdierBob

Australia13497 Posts

October 18 2020 07:34 GMT

#10

Pumped for this. Flash playing random has been great for the tourney. Appointment viewing!

AttackZerg

United States7584 Posts

October 18 2020 07:48 GMT

#11

On October 18 2020 15:50 whaski wrote:

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I have to disagree, Rush is strong in tvt...

I base my opinion of his TvT on less then 11 games where I saw him getting trounced pretty often. I think I saw him lose a tournament match in tvt fairly recently as well.

If he is actually elite at tvt or something, my bad, I haven't been following his games for long.

But, I did see him get stomped by much less terrans then Flash, so I stand by TvT being a dire straight for Rush.
Poor was probably the wrong word in my initial post.

whaski

Finland577 Posts

October 18 2020 07:53 GMT

#12

On October 18 2020 16:48 AttackZerg wrote:

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I mean he is good online, it clearly doesn't transfer into this ASL. I bet you he will look just as bad in other matchups against Flash...