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NEWS
- Opening day: Sunday 27 October 18:00 GMT (+00:00) ()
- Added Rule - Participants and General Rules point 9.1  BWCL Season 49/Rules to give better balancing when a team is disqualified.
9. Teams with 3 walk over are banned from the league and its previous scores are reset.
9.1. If none or just one walk over is in the first half of the league, those scores are valid and only the second half of the league is reset.
- Added Rule - Clan: Leaders and Players point 4 BWCL Season 49/Rules to make sure Leaders know the Bnet account of the players they are recruiting and help to avoid multiclanning.
4. New, unknown players have to have played at least 10 ladder games before to be recruited, in any case the name must appear in the leaderboard.
- Fixed playoffs/out formats in case of disqualified teams.
Bubbles
Clay Fields
Carthage
Neo Sylphid
Whiteout
Eddy
Atlantis
TEAMS![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/2UpXocN.png)
FORMAT - SCHEDULE
- Double round robin (each Clan meet twice).
- Clan League matches take place once a week; the default time is Sunday, 18:00 GMT (+00:00) .
- Default channels are respectively: DIV-A, DIV-B, DIV-C, DIV-D at Bnet-EU
- The time and channel for a Clan League match (or a single set) may be changed by mutual agreement of the Clan Leaders involved, as long as the War is played before the actual play day. In this case the BWCL administration has to be informed by posting in the pre-postponements discord channel.
- The CW format is four 1v1 and one 2v2, all best of 3. No player may play more than one 1on1.
- The line-up MUST be submitted before the 18:00 GMT (+00:00). Failure to do so, may opponents claim a walk over victory. In any case submitting line-ups after the time limit imply -2 point penalty.
- If the opponents team does not show up, a walk over may be requested by the team leader. If a team lacks players for single sets, a walk over for the set can be requested. Every walk over request should be posted in the according topic along with a Screenshot of the channel; include the /whois information for proof.
- A walk over can be requested if a team/player misses to show up 15 Minutes after the scheduled time.
- Single sets can be postponed if both teams agree. It is the duty of the teams to play out the missing sets within 48 hours after the scheduled war.
- Replays have to be submitted in the proper discord channel.
FAQ
- Where can I read the general rules?
Here BWCL Season 49/Rules
- How can I submit the line-up?
You must be a Squad Leader, Admins provide a special link to sub line-up.
- What if I do not submit the line-up in time?
Opponents may claim a walk over victory, in any case your team receive -2 ladder points, so make sure not to fail in this point.
- When and where do I have to play?
Clan League matches take place once a week; the default time is Sunday, 18:00 GMT (+00:00) .
Default channels are respectively: DIV-A, DIV-B, DIV-C, DIV-D at Bnet-EU
- When can I recruit new players?
You can recruit new players at anytime, even 5 min before the start of the CW. New players have to be announced at discord roster-changes channel. This rule is not valid for playoffs. The unique restrictions are:
- new players have never played in the current season for another team.
- new players must appear in the leaderboard.
- How can I join at Discord BWCL server?
You must participate in the League.
Only Admins and Team Leaders can create instant invites, so contact them.
- Can I change team?
Absolutely no. Once the league is started you can't be recruited by other teams. You have to wait the next season.
Contacts:
e-mail: iCCup.Face@gmail.com
Discord: iCCup.Face#6722
teamliquid: iCCup.Face
iCCup: iCCup.Face
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not a single ladder map from this season.
really sad tbh cuz pool could be improved with power bond instead of white out(i will really like to know who is voting that crap) and gladiator instead of eddy.and with sylphid on it it actually could have a lot of potential.all in all another season with maps that no one really know and cant show best play.
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On October 21 2019 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
not a single ladder map from this season.
really sad tbh cuz pool could be improved with power bond instead of white out(i will really like to know who is voting that crap) and gladiator instead of eddy.and with sylphid on it it actually could have a lot of potential.all in all another season with maps that no one really know and cant show best play.
Well.. there's four divisions, 6 in each, wich means 24 teams and every team has around at least 10 players. Not all of them plays ladder day in day out. Many play random maps because SC is not all about winning to them. 
Anyways, now everyone got the chance to vote, and in the end 47 players out of around 300 registered voted. We'll just have to respect that.
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2 of my best players are thinking of dropping stpl because of the map pool in that league...
Really hope that doesnt happen in bwcl too :c
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United States42689 Posts
I've always been able to play any map without too much struggle, assuming no weird stuff like Blockchain. Most of the game isn't map specific, I'd not have any issues playing regular ladder maps most the time and playing another random map in a one off series.
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why so many complains lul
I'm unfamiliar with only 1 map: Atlantis. Also you basically have FS and CB in the map pool. Other maps are pretty standard too. The map pool is great.
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+1
Back in the days we had a lot of weird maps and nobody complain about that...
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When it comes to Power Bond and Whiteout.
Many of us "less good" players who don't spend hours everyday playing ladder, have played Whiteout for a whole season of CPL (four months from april to august). Wich comes natural that most of us vote for Whiteout since we know it far better than Power Bond.
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On October 22 2019 08:41 Bonyth wrote:
why so many complains lul
I'm unfamiliar with only 1 map: Atlantis. Also you basically have FS and CB in the map pool. Other maps are pretty standard too. The map pool is great.
Not many... it's 3 complaints out of 300 players registered. It's even less than a fart in space. xD
Also, Face asked all leaders in BWCL if there was any last disagreements after the vote before going public with the mappool, and there was only one complaint there as well out of 24 captains.
For the record:
Bonyth can play all maps
Because Bonyth can adapt
Bonyth is smart
Listen to Bonyth
...and he's king
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so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps.
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First of all it’s faces league, which he organizes and handles very well every season without asking anything back from the community and he does it so you guys can enjoy a team league for free. He can pick any maps he wants. These maps are not even bad I looked them all up, a few of them are already used professionally and the unknown ones look pretty standard and decent as it is. Why cry about maps when they’re already pretty good in a fun league that has been proven to have a good reputation. You guys still gotta bitch about something I guess
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On October 22 2019 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps.
or maybe its the players who can't adapt to different mappools who's retarded?
should be grateful he's keeping this clan league going
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On October 22 2019 04:44 XenOsky wrote:
2 of my best players are thinking of dropping stpl because of the map pool in that league...
Really hope that doesnt happen in bwcl too :c
That sucks, but I've yet to see a game from you guys where someones lost because of the map. I know Tech visibly complained at the end of his last game, but the map didn't lose him the game - it was super close but in the end he'd just lost too much over the course of the game.
Comparatively this map pool is super conservative as well.
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On October 22 2019 23:06 castleeMg wrote:
First of all it’s faces league, which he organizes and handles very well every season without asking anything back from the community and he does it so you guys can enjoy a team league for free. He can pick any maps he wants. These maps are not even bad I looked them all up, a few of them are already used professionally and the unknown ones look pretty standard and decent as it is. Why cry about maps when they’re already pretty good in a fun league that has been proven to have a good reputation. You guys still gotta bitch about something I guess
No one is saying he's not handling it well.
I think everyone appreciates the fact that he continues to run the league smoothly and professionally. Kudos to him.
This isn't about any of that though. In comparison to prior seasons the map pool is significantly better, yes, I can admit that. And I know these results won't change, so I will take it as a win. Improvement is improvement at the end of the day.
But there's some flaw when you have CPL players making the majority of the vote =\
On October 22 2019 23:23 elKa-ThE-FeArEd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2019 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps. or maybe its the players who can't adapt to different mappools who's retarded? should be grateful he's keeping this clan league going
???
It's not about adaptation. I think eon's point is more about practicing less maps across the different leagues and ladder so that your practice is more meaningful. Plus, I would argue that eon can obviously "adapt" given that he has quite a good win ratio in every league, so it's not about adapting at all.
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On October 22 2019 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps.
I don't know how the attribute "retarded" is even sensibly applicable to a pool of very standard maps…
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So silly to complain about maps! I love the STPL maps, and these are fine too, I wish Beehive had won its so cool <3 .
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On October 23 2019 02:11 Freakling wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2019 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps. I don't know how the attribute "retarded" is even sensibly applicable to a pool of very standard maps…
you are the creator of oxide right ?. plz check a bug where u take the extractor of opponent and it doesnt give you vision.
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On October 22 2019 23:24 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2019 04:44 XenOsky wrote:
2 of my best players are thinking of dropping stpl because of the map pool in that league...
Really hope that doesnt happen in bwcl too :c That sucks, but I've yet to see a game from you guys where someones lost because of the map. I know Tech visibly complained at the end of his last game, but the map didn't lose him the game - it was super close but in the end he'd just lost too much over the course of the game. Comparatively this map pool is super conservative as well.
The thing about maps is not that they are difficult to play or that players dont know how to play in them. The problem is the fact that is really difficult to find time/partners to practice specific maps, specially when the 2 main team leagues have different map pools...
also top players are practicing for bwcl, stpl, upcoming nation wars, bsl, random tournaments like jeez or defilers... that is 6 different map pools not counting ladder map pool... a little consistency between leagues can only be helpful to the skill and entretainment value of the entire scene.
i understand that for organizers / viewers is mb more fun to have weird shit going on all over the place, but for players is kinda stressful. (unless ure Bonyth and you just stomp kids all over the place no matter the map)
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On October 23 2019 04:48 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2019 02:11 Freakling wrote:On October 22 2019 22:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
so thx to the cpl players and organizers that dont play the game we playing retarded maps. I don't know how the attribute "retarded" is even sensibly applicable to a pool of very standard maps… you are the creator of oxide right ?. plz check a bug where u take the extractor of opponent and it doesnt give you vision.
Already known, but thanks, working on it.
@XenOsky: All of that has been taken into consideration. Just have some trust and patience.
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CEST actually ends this weekend, overnight from Sat to Sun. So can you confirm you intend the default time to be 8 PM CET?
If so you might want to edit the rules: it says 7 pm CEST there.
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The time is 19:00 CET, I assume teamliquid code write 20:00 CEST coz we are still in cest, which is the same thing.
Reminding to everyone the starting day (27 Oct) is the time change day CEST to CET.
About rules, it's a copy paste from last season, thx for the note.
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Just a small thought about this map pool issue.
Back in the day we had more or less different maps between WGTCL, BWCL, Tournaments etc... but the difference is that on a weekly basis we were playing different maps on ICCUP, which 99% of the time were covering all tournament maps. This is not the case in bnet ladder where we are stuck with a fixed map pool and constantly playing 3/4 maps.
And we have an easy example on STPL with the famous 6min curse. That's the main symptom of either 1 of the players not having practiced the map at all, or executing a BO that just doesn't fit the map. (You can see my last game for an example of that :D).
Anyway from my point of view, on BWCL you can always train 2/3 maps since at least is a BO3, you don't need to know the full mappool.
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Have a great Season everyone. Let's enjoy this !
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Atlantis looks beautiful. Cardinal's maps are all FS clones so don't get complain about maps. It's good to have some diversity, getting sick from standard. Wish you guys used maps from very old ASLs too. I miss Camelot.
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The map pool is good.
Neo_Sylphid_2.0 - Extremely popular map that everyone is familiar with
Eddy- Map previously used on ladder that's coming back for KSL4
Carthage 3- Also used in STPL
Clay Fields/Bubbles not FS/CB but some similarties. normal looking maps nonetheless
Whiteout - ASL map used in a few other leagues already.
Atlantis - Only truly weird map
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Hope y'all are busy practicing on Clay Fields ready for this Sunday lol (Clay Fields being the 1v1 map of the week).
Please link me any streams and VODs, I want to watch as many games as possible, cheers!
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As well as I've explained in the s49 preview topic, it's always hard to predict the next ladder maps.
We have caught a couple!
Comment, feedback?
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S49 Week 4Div-A NaS vs. iRkThursday, Nov 21 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tv Dragon[NaS] vs.  iRk-Babo SuGo[NaS] vs. iRk-Dewalt Kingdom[NaS] vs. iRk-Favorit JY[NaS] vs.  iRk-Spx Irish[NaS] + Terror[NaS] vs. iRk-Favorit + iRk-Babo MOTW: 1v1 Clay Fields 2v2 Eddy Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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What happend to that island map from KoK, the one looking like honeycombs, i believe had 'Hive' in name? This map was awesome for its idea.
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Beehive (honeycombs, exactly!).
People preferred the more standard Atlantis when they had the choice.
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That series fischei1 posted above between NaS and iRk has some quality games.
Heres the VOD link:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/511395863
For example, in the TvZ between Spx and JY, Vincent says "Wow, I did not see this coming... I mean its unbelievable".
The PvPs were fantastic as well. Strongly recommend watching them.
The PvZ features 2 Shield Batteries.
Spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +PvZ Dragon defending Babo's 2 hat muta. When Zerg kills 4 corsairs and 3 cannons in the main, damages a 5th sair heavily and snipes the 6th corsair as it pops, it could have been a little bit of a hairy situation. Dragon employs a lovely Shield Battery/Archon combo. Ends as a multi-tech game and P on 4 bases.
The first PvP with SuGo and Dewalt's dragoons fighting around the hills and chokes was gripping, chasing each other in loops. The early game dragoon micro was intense. Goes to lategame 3 base each.
The second PvP is dt expand vs 3 gate obs that also goes to lategame multiple expands. Favorit mines from 5 different base locations and Kingdom secures 4 bases.
And in the TvZ JY puts on a lot of pressure with +1 air armour mutalisks and goes straight into ultralisks with +3 armour upgrades. JY is level pegging in supply count with Spx and snipes the first vessel with scourge. This game shows how strong muta harass can be on Clay Fields. And yet...
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S49 Week 5Div-C pSi vs. pariahSunday, Dec 01 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tvpSi.Prase vs. [pariah]Thebis pSi.mitak vs. [pariah]Crow pSi.marine vs. [pariah]Andrew pSi.Micheal vs. [pariah]Fear pSi.Grast + pSi.kik0 vs. [pariah]Crow + [pariah]Seets MOTW: 1v1 Carthage 2v2 Clay Fields Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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Again here is the VOD link of the series fischei1 posted above between pSi and pariah, cast by Vincent:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/515763359
Spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +Features a 1 base terran vs zerg game at 1:03:00 in the vod.
Also a TvZ on Clay Fields at 1:48:00. I wonder what might have happened if Zerg had taken the close 3rd base rather than 9 o clock as his 3rd. He had 2 lurkers ready and would have held his 3rd base most likely. It would have been much easier to defend the dropships after that too. Looking forward to seeing a rematch between these two.
Evilbringer casts some bwcl here between pariah and iRk:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/515779899
Spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +An interesting PvT build order at 37:00 where P double expands after a 2 gate goon, then gets double forge no robo. Protoss royally butchers his pylon walling at the 3rd (check it out its pretty funny). Would be interesting to see this played again with appropriate adjustments. This game features ghosts with nukes by the way.
Also a good PvZ game on Bubbles between Krocan and Threo at 1:32:30 in this vod:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/515261233
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S49 Week 6Div-B vT vs. ashSaturday, Dec 07 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tvvT-CreateLove vs. ash.HitemUp vT-Irradiar vs. ash.TTF vT-VerbO vs. ash.Shad vT-Galaxy vs. ash.KwarK vT-VerbO + vT-Galaxy vs. ash.HitemUp + ash.Shad MOTW: 1v1 Neo Sylphid 2v2 Bubbles Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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S49 Week 8Div-D NaS-B vs. Bull)-BThursday, Dec 19 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tvHerbmon[NaS] + Snipe[NaS] vs. Bull)forge + Bull)Conan Snipe[NaS] vs. Bull)Pocho NinjoOb[NaS] vs. Bull)Conan PiSan[NaS] vs. Bull)Daio Herbmon[NaS] vs. Bull)forge MOTW: 1v1 Bubbles 2v2 Clay Fields Results:+ Show Spoiler +Herbmon[NaS] + Snipe[NaS] 1-2 Bull)forge + Bull)Conan Snipe[NaS] 2-0 Bull)Pocho NinjoOb[NaS] 2-0 Bull)Conan PiSan[NaS] 0-2 Bull)DaioHerbmon[NaS] 2-0 Bull)forge
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S49 Week 9Div-A iRk-A vs. NaS-ASaturday, Jan 18 2:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tviRk-Favorite + iRk-Marwin vs. DragOn[NaS] + seriOsity[NaS] iRk-Dewalt vs. JY[NaS] iRk-Marwin vs. TerrOr[NaS] iRk-Unco vs. DragOn[NaS] iRk-spx vs. eOnzErG[NaS] MOTW: 1v1 Whiteout 2v2 Bubbles Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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PLAYOFFS
January 26, 2020 19:00 CET
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/8fnmkaR.png)
Starting Maps
- 1v1: Eddy
- 2v2: Bubbles
- Loser pick a map not already played
Source: BWCL Season 49/Playoffs
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this league should seriously have a better coverage than it has..
even 2 or 3 matches weekly would help I think
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On January 21 2020 22:30 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
this league should seriously have a better coverage than it has..
even 2 or 3 matches weekly would help I think
U can join BWCL and help 
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S49 Week 10Div-B KDV vs. vTFriday, Jan 24 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on evilbringer mayyaS[KDV] vs. vT-ThomBrowne Bard[KDV] vs. vT-Irradiar VinGzil[KDV] vs. vT-Verb0 peR[KDV] vs. vT-Galaxy Bard[KDV]+ peR[KDV] vs. vT-Verb0 + vT-Galaxy MOTW: 1v1 Neo Sylphid 2v2 Atlantis Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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S49 PlayoffsSemifinals SouL vs. NaSThursday, Jan 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tv SouL)Z(g0rynich vs. DragOn[NaS] SouL)T(Ultra vs. JY[NaS] SouL)P(Bonyth vs. TerrOr[NaS] SouL)T(Dandy vs. eOnzERG[NaS] SouL)P(Bonyth+ SouL)Z(g0rynich vs. Dragon[NaS] + seriOsity[NaS] MOTW: 1v1 Eddy 2v2 Bubbles Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +how terror even come back in that first game? Bonyth looked to be having his way with harass. Eonzerg clutch, cause I think the 2v2 was going Soul's way...i wanted to see that 2v2. Great series
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S49 PlayoffsSemifinals iRk vs. dMMonday, Feb 03 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
on vincent4tv iRk-Favorit vs.  dM-PrI iRk-Marwin vs. dM-TousaN iRk-Oyaji vs. dM-Depleted iRk-Dewalt vs. dM-Tech iRk-Favorit + iRk-Marwin vs. dM-PrI + dM-Depleted MOTW: 1v1 Eddy 2v2 Bubbles Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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S49 PlayoffsFinal![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/w2tnpsc.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/kAFsgdq.png) NaS vs. iRkSunday, Feb 16 1:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) vincent4tvseriOsity[NaS] + DragOn[NaS] vs. iRk-Marwin + iRk-Favorit JY[NaS] vs. iRk-spx DragOn[NaS] vs. iRk-OyAji eOnzErG[NaS] vs. iRk-Dewalt TerrOr[NaS] vs. iRk-Marwin MOTW: 1v1 Whiteout 2v2 Clay Fields Results:+ Show Spoiler +
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Thanks a lot for the info, will watch it for sure
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What an amazing finals to what has been an awesome tournament. Thankyou for all your hard work organising this guys.
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EPT![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/q9HV1Sm.png)
Congratulation
