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Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden310 Posts
February 19 2019 22:45 GMT
#81
Man, I just love Broodwar, such great and entertaining games and Tastosis has been great lately. Really having a lot of fun with these guys and they seem to have found a great balance in calling the games...
nah
JackyVSO
Profile Joined July 2018
Denmark85 Posts
February 20 2019 01:02 GMT
#82
Mini should be able to take out Calm in a best of 5
effort should be so much better than Mind that he should have a pretty clear advantage even in ZvT
Six months ago, I would have said Last would easily win against Sharp. Now, who knows? I guess Sharp is a slight favorite.
Rain is the best PvP player in the world and will have no problems at all beating Horang2
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
February 20 2019 08:52 GMT
#83
On February 20 2019 07:45 Barneyk wrote:
Man, I just love Broodwar, such great and entertaining games and Tastosis has been great lately. Really having a lot of fun with these guys and they seem to have found a great balance in calling the games...

Yeah, I just thought the same thing. They were great last time.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 08:53:22
February 20 2019 08:52 GMT
#84
Fun night. Tastosis has one of their best casts.

Hope clam wins for the fans and a great Zvz. Mini doesn’t excite anyone.

I have a soft spot for mind but we know how that’s ending after that insane KSL finals.

Last looked weak in the group by his standard.

Rain should crush pvp please.

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TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
February 20 2019 13:40 GMT
#85
Sad about Larva T_T Was hoping for both Rain - Larva advancement oh well..

Interesting ro8 draws. I think Last came out on the short-end having to play Sharp (an excellent TVT'er) and if he wins there it's most likley a showdown vs Rain in the ro4 and if it happens I predict Rain going to the finals.

On the other side of the bracket I'm rooting for Calm, effort and Mind! Was hoping for a Calm vs Mind series instead
but vs effort should be a monster series anywway.

That side of the bracket is thought to Call but if Calm>Mini and Effort>Mind then i see Effort>Calm in ro4 = effort to the final (most likley vs Rain).
If Mini>Calm and Mind>effort then I see Mini>Mind (Mini has a really good PvT) and I see Mini in the final.
If its MindvsCalm in ro4 anything can happen! But Mind should be able to take it in a series, TvZ being a strong matchup for him.

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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 20 2019 13:43 GMT
#86
What are the stats for Sharp v Rain in a tournament setting?
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 16:44:38
February 20 2019 16:38 GMT
#87
On February 20 2019 22:40 TiQ.SinGi wrote:
Interesting ro8 draws. I think Last came out on the short-end having to play Sharp (an excellent TVT'er)


Interesting. I thought Last hit the jackpot on that draw. Sharp may still win given Last's wrist. But I felt bad for Sharp drawing Last as I think he'd rather face anyone else. It was pretty one sided the last time they met. [3-0, Ro8 ASL S6]
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
February 20 2019 16:56 GMT
#88
In my opinion, Mini is underrated. I think he could have a close series against Rain if both advanced. And Mini would also do well against Effort. I think both series would be close. I'm predicting really good games of his and Calm's.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 18:27:47
February 20 2019 18:26 GMT
#89
Larva had really poor scouting and army management on both of the newer maps (Whiteout and Blockchain). Rain just outclassed him, Mini was par for the course in his final match.

The first game between Larva and Mini is how their matches look online though, or a long, drawish game with Larva eventually winning. Definitely a surprise. Not the Rain win though, he's been owning Larva for months now.

Sharp got a great match-up in the Ro8, he can definitely beat a 250apm/washed out Last.

Rain is in great shape, however don't disregard Horang2, his PvP is instinctively good and at the end of the day it's a PvP between two pros, so there will be a coin-toss/build-order scenario happening most probably rather than not.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 21 2019 10:16 GMT
#90
Is there any info on quarter final schedule?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#91
On February 21 2019 19:16 Piste wrote:
Is there any info on quarter final schedule?

Game 1 - 23rd, Sat,
Game 2 - 24th, Sun,
Game 3 - 26th, Tue,
Game 4 - 27th, Wed.

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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8159 Posts
February 21 2019 16:41 GMT
#92
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.
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Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway638 Posts
February 21 2019 18:21 GMT
#93
Rain's game against Larva was just beautiful! And also very nice watching a Sair/Reaver-game where the protoss doesn't fall flat on his face. Feel like that's what happened most times I*ve seen it in recent times, although I might be off there.

Sad to see Larva leave early, though. I'm not too invested in him per say, but he's a really cool character. And when he's on top, he plays hella well!
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Areilycus
Profile Joined February 2019
3 Posts
February 21 2019 18:35 GMT
#94
I am not specifically a fan of Rain, but his games often turn out to be entertaining. I am also enjoying the current reaver-heavy meta. I wouldn't have imagined 10 years ago that pro SC BW was still around, let alone so refreshing and entertaining.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 14:52:47
February 22 2019 07:34 GMT
#95
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would might have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8159 Posts
February 22 2019 14:35 GMT
#96
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 22 2019 14:55 GMT
#97
On February 22 2019 23:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.


Sorry, I honestly don't know whether it's considered correct. I'm a noob who needs some help on this too :D
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
February 22 2019 23:02 GMT
#98
On February 22 2019 23:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.

It is obviously better to have your overlords in less spots so that you only need the bare minimum to defend versus corsairs. If you always want to leave a overlod at every base you also need more hydras to defend all overlords, meaning your economy suffers needlessly.

A better play would be to just use the lings waiting outside of the Protoss natural which aren't doing anything at that time period to scout for possible hidden stuff on the map.
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Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
February 28 2019 23:38 GMT
#99
noo, ro8 groups are just shit, to be honest.
Calm - Mind
Effort - Rain
Last- Mini
Horang2 - Sharp
that wouldve been perfect ro8 groups.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50627 Posts
March 01 2019 03:38 GMT
#100
On March 01 2019 08:38 Aminus wrote:
noo, ro8 groups are just shit, to be honest.
Calm - Mind
Effort - Rain
Last- Mini
Horang2 - Sharp
that wouldve been perfect ro8 groups.


the Ro8 is already over why bump this thread to complain about it now.
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