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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 07:47 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 7


Tuesday, Feb 19 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 7


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Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


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(P)Mini              (Z)Larva

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(P)Rain              (Z)Sacsri






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CSS: FO-nTTaX
Banner: Afreeca

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
February 19 2019 07:57 GMT
#2
Rain + Larva
Flash returns...
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
February 19 2019 08:18 GMT
#3
Mini, Rain
Graphics
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1101 Posts
February 19 2019 08:58 GMT
#4
Mini in an offline match is like a box of chocolates
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 19 2019 08:58 GMT
#5
I would like to watch 5 PvZ games today
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 19 2019 10:00 GMT
#6
Easy 1st place for Rain.

Hopefuly Sacsri fumbles his way to top 8 with 3hh and ZvZ :D
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 10:33 GMT
#7
this map does look hard for P's third
Drone is a way of living
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 19 2019 10:34 GMT
#8
Mini didn't exactly look great there
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 10:34 GMT
#9
Poll: Recommend Mini vs Larva?

If you have time (10)
 
63%

Yes (3)
 
19%

No (3)
 
19%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Larva?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
February 19 2019 10:37 GMT
#10
Mini started the game strong, but then execution failed him and Larva contained him. After that it was over for him.
Give thanks and praise!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 10:38 GMT
#11
That was pretty brutal...
it's not just a music it's something else
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 10:39 GMT
#12
you really don't want to let Larva have his macro going ...
Drone is a way of living
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 10:42 GMT
#13
Afreeca deciding not to work sometimes really tilts me.

Mini/Larva will advance.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 10:45 GMT
#14
Alright, now it is Rain vs Sacsri now. I expect Rain to win this and continue to verse Larva. I'll be surprised if Sacsri wins. Then again Best and Snow got rolled as well. I do hope we get Rain vs Larva.
Artosis loves Starcraft
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 10:50 GMT
#15
Nice use of that 500+ APM by Sacsri!
Drone is a way of living
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 10:50 GMT
#16
great play by larva, hope he comes at first
BW is back
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
February 19 2019 10:54 GMT
#17
On February 19 2019 19:50 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Nice use of that 500+ APM by Sacsri!

Interesting to note that his view was right over the main base as he lost 4 drones to 1 zealot, he made the conscious choice not to drill the drones or anything.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 10:56 GMT
#18
very interesting game, rain always bring crazy builds
BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 10:56 GMT
#19
Poll: Recommend Rain vs Sacsri

Yes (13)
 
62%

If you have time (6)
 
29%

No (2)
 
10%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs Sacsri

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 10:57 GMT
#20
Really liked the hold by Rain against that Hydra attack. Now we get Larva vs Rain. Hoping for a good game and not a stomped. This season has given us a bit of both so far.
Artosis loves Starcraft
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 11:00 GMT
#21
Btw anything but 2z coming out of this group will give us a perfect 3-3-2 race distribution for RO8.
Drone is a way of living
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:10 GMT
#22
another crazy build by rain
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:11 GMT
#23
wow, rain kills all the drones in the main

this will be game
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:12 GMT
#24
two shuttles!
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:13 GMT
#25
wow, such a stomp!

rain just rolls over larva
BW is back
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 11:14 GMT
#26
Where is bm Nexus :-)
it's not just a music it's something else
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:15 GMT
#27
larva gg's

that was a bisu level of zerg stomp
BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 11:15 GMT
#28
Poll: Recommend Winners Game?

Yes (19)
 
83%

No (3)
 
13%

If you have time (1)
 
4%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 11:15 GMT
#29
Nevermind, Rain owns.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 11:16 GMT
#30
"don't play the match up, play the man!"
Drone is a way of living
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
February 19 2019 11:16 GMT
#31
What a technical takedown. Larva had no chance.
Give thanks and praise!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 11:19:33
February 19 2019 11:17 GMT
#32
Another Zerg death on Sylphid courtesy of DT's. Shame Larva dies to DT's. Grats to Rain on the win.
Artosis loves Starcraft
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 11:31:16
February 19 2019 11:22 GMT
#33
hoping for Rain-Effort finals i guess?

EDIT: whats with Sacsri hating his drones? Never tries to save them. Shame!
Drone is a way of living
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
February 19 2019 11:30 GMT
#34
Sharp vs Calm finals pls.
Give thanks and praise!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 11:33 GMT
#35
Really abusive zealot-probe from Mini.
it's not just a music it's something else
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:36 GMT
#36
lol, no more overlords for sacrsi
BW is back
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 11:37 GMT
#37
Mini is on point with micro. Intresting to see how he is going to handle Larva in decider.
it's not just a music it's something else
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:37 GMT
#38
another stomp, lol
BW is back
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 19 2019 11:37 GMT
#39
That was...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:38 GMT
#40
So many brain farts on the ro8, lol

so many games with easy victories.
BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 11:38 GMT
#41
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

No (11)
 
69%

If you have time (5)
 
31%

Yes (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 11:38 GMT
#42
Sent this kid back to elementary school. Well done.
Also we are getting Larva-Mini rematch on another map, this is exciting!
Drone is a way of living
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 11:38 GMT
#43
A rolling boulder of ownage. I wonder how the final 8 is going to turn out.
Artosis loves Starcraft
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 11:40 GMT
#44
Come on! Mini is a great PvZ player, who has bad nerves. This was him playing well and being much better than Sacsri.
it's not just a music it's something else
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 11:43 GMT
#45
On February 19 2019 20:38 NoS-Craig wrote:
A rolling boulder of ownage. I wonder how the final 8 is going to turn out.

Effort rolling over everybody else with possibly Rain doing the same to the other side of the bracket.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
February 19 2019 11:45 GMT
#46
was hoping for a zvz
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 11:45 GMT
#47
I think Sharp can beat Rain though. Depends on the Ro8 draw. I feel the Final will be involve either Sharp/Rain/Effort.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:50 GMT
#48
lol, another crazy game

what was on the water today, lol
BW is back
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
February 19 2019 11:58 GMT
#49
korean lancerx
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:58 GMT
#50
great catch by larva, but the damage done is insane
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 11:59 GMT
#51
the push from mini will be lethal
BW is back
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 11:59 GMT
#52
Still, so many players getting recked with Reavers well after their initial attacks. Mini going not giving up at all.
Artosis loves Starcraft
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
February 19 2019 12:00 GMT
#53
larva had scouted reaver corsair in time and yet managed to constantly have his army elsewhere to allow shuttles to unload...
Drone is a way of living
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 12:01 GMT
#54
well, this is the end for larva.
BW is back
elpolloloco31
Profile Joined April 2018
145 Posts
February 19 2019 12:02 GMT
#55
mini deserved it. poor larva. got demolished.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 12:02 GMT
#56
the ro8 will be awesome

we have effort, calm,rain, mini,mind

BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
February 19 2019 12:04 GMT
#57
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (22)
 
88%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

No (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 12:09 GMT
#58
Pray for EffOrt and Rain on opposite sides
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 12:12 GMT
#59
If Last is healthy and he crushes Sharp for the second season in a row, what will happen on this forum?
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 13:59:43
February 19 2019 12:15 GMT
#60
Okay, Last has a shot for semifinals. Sharp is a huge favorite, no way around it.
it's not just a music it's something else
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 19 2019 12:17 GMT
#61
On February 19 2019 21:12 Rodya wrote:
If Last is healthy and he crushes Sharp for the second season in a row, what will happen on this forum?


Last is not gonna get better ☹️ He is crippled for good.
it's not just a music it's something else
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
February 19 2019 12:17 GMT
#62
lol, i guess there will be a LOT of people who miss Rain vs Horang2 (4 hours earlier?!) surprising...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 19 2019 12:20 GMT
#63
the first ro8 will be on the 23rd
BW is back
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 19 2019 12:20 GMT
#64
Mini > Calm
Effort > Mind
Sharp > Last
Rain > Horang2

Effort > Mini
Sharp > Rain

Effort > Sharp

Effort 2nd trophy confirmed!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 19 2019 12:22 GMT
#65
Pretty amazing pairings!
Mind's TvZ is great, he might upset Effort; Last would be favoured over Sharp if he was healthy, both have some of the best TvT.
Rain should steamroll Horang 2 while Calm and Mini are kind of unpredictable players.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 13:01 GMT
#66
Predicting EffOrt vs Sharp final with Effort going LOL back to back wins. Unless Calm can beat Effort in a best of 5 using Build order wins.

Quaters-
Mini > Calm 3-2
LOL Effort >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mind 3-0
Sharp > Last 3-1
Rain > Horang2 3-1

Semis-
Effort > Mini 3-0
Sharp > Rain - 3-2

3rd place-
Rain > Mini 3-0

Final-
Effort 3-1 Sharp

Either way, I see Effort smashing everyone.



Artosis loves Starcraft
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 13:02:33
February 19 2019 13:02 GMT
#67
On the left side, Effort looks like a clear favorite, but all 3 others can upset him imo, since, effort is known for choking too whenever he feels like. On the other side I am already waiting for Sharp- Rain rematch to see if Rain is finally going to take a series from Sharp, nevertheless, whoever gets to the final will make for an interesting one:-)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
February 19 2019 13:03 GMT
#68
is there a 3rd place match at all?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
February 19 2019 13:06 GMT
#69
I assume there is. They have had a third-place match for the ASL since season 3.
Artosis loves Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 14:57:23
February 19 2019 13:23 GMT
#70
Mini < Calm
Effort > Mind
Sharp > Last
Rain < Horang2

Effort < Calm
Sharp > Horang2

Calm < Sharp
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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
February 19 2019 13:48 GMT
#71
would predict:

Calm < Mini
Effort < Mind
Sharp > Last
Rain > Horang2

Mini > Mind
Rain > Sharp

Rain > Mini (and Sharp > Mind for 3rd place)

even if this means boring pvp finals
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
February 19 2019 15:16 GMT
#72
Calm < Mini
Effort > Mind
Sharp < Last
Rain > Horang2

Effort > Mini
Rain > Last

Effort > Rain
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
February 19 2019 15:30 GMT
#73
😮 We could end up with Last vs Rain or Sharp vs Rain again! Yay!!!
Oppa feeding style
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 19 2019 15:50 GMT
#74
Wow I was not expecting Larva to lose to mini again but mini played so much better in the final match, he definitely deserves his Ro8 spot. Disappointed that larva couldn't make it out though, seems weird that frickin calm is in the Ro8 but not larva or soulkey.

The left side of the bracket should be fun, mini and calm were teammates so there should be a lot of mind-games going on, and Mind and Effort are both pretty fun strategic players.

Expecting:

mini 3-1 calm
effort 3-1 mind

sharp 3-0 last
rain 3-1 horang2


Last seems like the biggest wildcard, not sure how good his mechanics are anymore but he won't be able to get 3 BO or cheese wins against sharp who is playing so well lately and probably overtook him as the best non-flash terran. If last can get back to where he was last year during his KSL win then it's a totally different story, but it seems like he isn't there any more :\
Free Palestine
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 19 2019 15:57 GMT
#75
Larva got OK, not death group but still ends up falling apart which is disappointing. Rain looked really good and should be a serious threat for everyone, maybe he can take this season, at least Larva died for this... Mini won't go far I think because we got really good players on ro8 waiting for him.
sunbeams are never made like me...
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 16:50:00
February 19 2019 16:49 GMT
#76
Larva's weakness is his early game is far too defensive. He reminds me of a much better RorO: you know he will typically err on the side of predictable defensive macro. You can't make it through grueling tournaments on macro alone.

Mini's peak is as high as anyone. Wouldn't be shocked if he made the Finals. Major recency bias re: effort. Yes, he's looked great recently, but he's had major flops before, and the history of brood war shows a non-gosu player rarely stays hot for too long. Just last season Rain looked like an overwhelming favorite. And remember when Larva looked completely dominant a few years ago?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 19 2019 17:06 GMT
#77
On February 20 2019 00:57 outscar wrote:
Larva got OK, not death group but still ends up falling apart which is disappointing. Rain looked really good and should be a serious threat for everyone, maybe he can take this season, at least Larva died for this... Mini won't go far I think because we got really good players on ro8 waiting for him.


I'd say mini is definitely the favorite over Calm, and if somehow mind beats effort I'd take mini over mind in a semifinal as well.
Free Palestine
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
February 19 2019 17:27 GMT
#78
Remember last ASL that Effort said he thought Mini was a harder opponent than Rain. It would be epic to see Effort play against both Protosses. ASL never fails to deliver it seems like.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1598 Posts
February 19 2019 17:28 GMT
#79
Mini fighting!!!
Sokokrey
Profile Joined January 2018
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 17:30:13
February 19 2019 17:29 GMT
#80
RAAAAIN
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden310 Posts
February 19 2019 22:45 GMT
#81
Man, I just love Broodwar, such great and entertaining games and Tastosis has been great lately. Really having a lot of fun with these guys and they seem to have found a great balance in calling the games...
nah
JackyVSO
Profile Joined July 2018
Denmark85 Posts
February 20 2019 01:02 GMT
#82
Mini should be able to take out Calm in a best of 5
effort should be so much better than Mind that he should have a pretty clear advantage even in ZvT
Six months ago, I would have said Last would easily win against Sharp. Now, who knows? I guess Sharp is a slight favorite.
Rain is the best PvP player in the world and will have no problems at all beating Horang2
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
February 20 2019 08:52 GMT
#83
On February 20 2019 07:45 Barneyk wrote:
Man, I just love Broodwar, such great and entertaining games and Tastosis has been great lately. Really having a lot of fun with these guys and they seem to have found a great balance in calling the games...

Yeah, I just thought the same thing. They were great last time.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 08:53:22
February 20 2019 08:52 GMT
#84
Fun night. Tastosis has one of their best casts.

Hope clam wins for the fans and a great Zvz. Mini doesn’t excite anyone.

I have a soft spot for mind but we know how that’s ending after that insane KSL finals.

Last looked weak in the group by his standard.

Rain should crush pvp please.

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TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
February 20 2019 13:40 GMT
#85
Sad about Larva T_T Was hoping for both Rain - Larva advancement oh well..

Interesting ro8 draws. I think Last came out on the short-end having to play Sharp (an excellent TVT'er) and if he wins there it's most likley a showdown vs Rain in the ro4 and if it happens I predict Rain going to the finals.

On the other side of the bracket I'm rooting for Calm, effort and Mind! Was hoping for a Calm vs Mind series instead
but vs effort should be a monster series anywway.

That side of the bracket is thought to Call but if Calm>Mini and Effort>Mind then i see Effort>Calm in ro4 = effort to the final (most likley vs Rain).
If Mini>Calm and Mind>effort then I see Mini>Mind (Mini has a really good PvT) and I see Mini in the final.
If its MindvsCalm in ro4 anything can happen! But Mind should be able to take it in a series, TvZ being a strong matchup for him.

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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 20 2019 13:43 GMT
#86
What are the stats for Sharp v Rain in a tournament setting?
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 16:44:38
February 20 2019 16:38 GMT
#87
On February 20 2019 22:40 TiQ.SinGi wrote:
Interesting ro8 draws. I think Last came out on the short-end having to play Sharp (an excellent TVT'er)


Interesting. I thought Last hit the jackpot on that draw. Sharp may still win given Last's wrist. But I felt bad for Sharp drawing Last as I think he'd rather face anyone else. It was pretty one sided the last time they met. [3-0, Ro8 ASL S6]
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
February 20 2019 16:56 GMT
#88
In my opinion, Mini is underrated. I think he could have a close series against Rain if both advanced. And Mini would also do well against Effort. I think both series would be close. I'm predicting really good games of his and Calm's.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 18:27:47
February 20 2019 18:26 GMT
#89
Larva had really poor scouting and army management on both of the newer maps (Whiteout and Blockchain). Rain just outclassed him, Mini was par for the course in his final match.

The first game between Larva and Mini is how their matches look online though, or a long, drawish game with Larva eventually winning. Definitely a surprise. Not the Rain win though, he's been owning Larva for months now.

Sharp got a great match-up in the Ro8, he can definitely beat a 250apm/washed out Last.

Rain is in great shape, however don't disregard Horang2, his PvP is instinctively good and at the end of the day it's a PvP between two pros, so there will be a coin-toss/build-order scenario happening most probably rather than not.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
February 21 2019 10:16 GMT
#90
Is there any info on quarter final schedule?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#91
On February 21 2019 19:16 Piste wrote:
Is there any info on quarter final schedule?

Game 1 - 23rd, Sat,
Game 2 - 24th, Sun,
Game 3 - 26th, Tue,
Game 4 - 27th, Wed.

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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 21 2019 16:41 GMT
#92
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.
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Profile Joined August 2017
Norway637 Posts
February 21 2019 18:21 GMT
#93
Rain's game against Larva was just beautiful! And also very nice watching a Sair/Reaver-game where the protoss doesn't fall flat on his face. Feel like that's what happened most times I*ve seen it in recent times, although I might be off there.

Sad to see Larva leave early, though. I'm not too invested in him per say, but he's a really cool character. And when he's on top, he plays hella well!
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Areilycus
Profile Joined February 2019
3 Posts
February 21 2019 18:35 GMT
#94
I am not specifically a fan of Rain, but his games often turn out to be entertaining. I am also enjoying the current reaver-heavy meta. I wouldn't have imagined 10 years ago that pro SC BW was still around, let alone so refreshing and entertaining.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 14:52:47
February 22 2019 07:34 GMT
#95
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would might have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 22 2019 14:35 GMT
#96
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 22 2019 14:55 GMT
#97
On February 22 2019 23:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.


Sorry, I honestly don't know whether it's considered correct. I'm a noob who needs some help on this too :D
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany911 Posts
February 22 2019 23:02 GMT
#98
On February 22 2019 23:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 16:34 JieXian wrote:
On February 22 2019 01:41 Ideas wrote:
Why do so many pros constantly not have an overlord in their main? I'm guessing it's on purpose in the early game (first 10 minutes or so) as they like to put all their overlords in their nat so they're easier to protect with hydras against sairs? It seems like it can't be on accident unless it's later in the game and there's more stuff to do. I'm bad so whenever I play I always leave an overlord in my main because I'm not good at timings/scouting and just always want to be safe against DT drops. I'm guessing it's some sort of corner-cutting thing where they decide that it's easier to protect their overlords in 1 spot than in 2 spots and just trust themselves to scout a DT drop coming before it happens? It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I feel like 1/4 - 1/2 of all protoss wins in PvZ are a result of protoss getting a DT into an unprotected main and getting a bunch of drone kills haha.


To be fair, Larva scouted Rain's base and didn't see the robo, so he would have positioned his defenses/overlords accordingly.


So you're saying it's considered the correct choice if you don't see a robo to not leave an overlord in your main? Presumably so that it's easier to protect from sairs? That's where my confusion is coming from. I get that larva didn't realize there would be a shuttle, but I'm wondering why standard procedure is not to just always have an overlord in the main no matter what. I can't think of any other specific examples so maybe I'm just over-remembering some moments, but it seems like in a lot of ZvPs the zerg will not keep an overlord in the main.

It is obviously better to have your overlords in less spots so that you only need the bare minimum to defend versus corsairs. If you always want to leave a overlod at every base you also need more hydras to defend all overlords, meaning your economy suffers needlessly.

A better play would be to just use the lings waiting outside of the Protoss natural which aren't doing anything at that time period to scout for possible hidden stuff on the map.
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Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
February 28 2019 23:38 GMT
#99
noo, ro8 groups are just shit, to be honest.
Calm - Mind
Effort - Rain
Last- Mini
Horang2 - Sharp
that wouldve been perfect ro8 groups.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
March 01 2019 03:38 GMT
#100
On March 01 2019 08:38 Aminus wrote:
noo, ro8 groups are just shit, to be honest.
Calm - Mind
Effort - Rain
Last- Mini
Horang2 - Sharp
that wouldve been perfect ro8 groups.


the Ro8 is already over why bump this thread to complain about it now.
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