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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
September 14 2017 16:52 GMT
#61
On September 15 2017 01:26 Trutaacz wrote:
Everything is understandable, the split between invited players and qualified players, the right to choose to invite whoever organizers want to, but why the hell with another tournament noone cares about the players? I just cant understand it, why are we forced to play in 8 turn rate. Noone forces korean players to play in this sad latency... And why we have to play outdated maps, which are SUPER imbalanced nowadays?


Turn rate can be increased if both players agree
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
ilovemmy
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Italy30 Posts
September 14 2017 16:52 GMT
#62
Regarding Turn Rate:8 that's set as default, but if both players agree it's possible to set an higher value. We'll update the rules on the qualifiers page.
If you need inspiring words, you should not do it.
Sinistro
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil684 Posts
September 14 2017 16:56 GMT
#63
Folks,

We appreciate all feedback given, but, let me show you where you can be more effective:

https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/scr/major/italian-open/qualifier-cup-1-italy/support

On the link above, don't change anything in the dropdown menus, just add a Subject and leave feedback/suggestion/questions on the text field. This way you can get a proper answer from the organization of the event.

Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 14 2017 16:59 GMT
#64
On September 15 2017 01:47 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2017 01:41 Demurity wrote:
I agree with trutaacz completely.

$16,000 is a significant amount to hold a tournament, but the response to players' voices is disheartening.

Somewhat disagree, the organizers are clearly just basing the map pool off of the Blizzard ladder, if players want to complain about the map pool, they should do so to Blizzard, not every tournament host that comes up. Like it or not, most (all) people hosting large events were not active in the Brood War community from 2010-2017, so it's kind of unrealistic to assume that they would come in with any other map pool than what Blizzard picked.

The only thing for me is that it should not be called "Open" when there are 3 QF spots of 8, but that's a minor aesthetic.


I understand your point. It's not so far-fetched to think that they could consider adjusting the map pool.

It's not that it's unfair, its just less ideal for the bw fans who would be the most interested in this event.
I.e. It's not unfair to have an event organizer to set the rules and say, we want the best players... buttttt you need to ride a unicycle while you play.

I'm just a 3rd party spectator. I'm not here to argue, but it's interesting to see how these events go. I'll watch regardless.
|Terran|
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
September 14 2017 17:38 GMT
#65
HsDLTitich, ilovemmy, thanks for the answers. What happens in the event a certain player decides to exploit it in his favour as a terran can easily just refuse to play on turn rate higher than 8 to gain advantage over a zerg player while turn rate 12 or 16 are completely fine for both players?
Enjoy the game
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 17:47:22
September 14 2017 17:47 GMT
#66
That is just too bad for zergs. Terran hwaiting!
|Terran|
ilovemmy
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Italy30 Posts
September 14 2017 17:56 GMT
#67
On September 15 2017 02:38 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
HsDLTitich, ilovemmy, thanks for the answers. What happens in the event a certain player decides to exploit it in his favour as a terran can easily just refuse to play on turn rate higher than 8 to gain advantage over a zerg player while turn rate 12 or 16 are completely fine for both players?


Hope that won't be the case during the tournament and everone will play fair to preserve the tournament sportmanship, however in particular cases an admin will have the last word on it.
If you need inspiring words, you should not do it.
Spirit.iMK
Profile Joined June 2012
Italy19 Posts
September 14 2017 18:01 GMT
#68
On September 15 2017 01:47 Eywa- wrote:

The only thing for me is that it should not be called "Open" when there are 3 QF spots of 8, but that's a minor aesthetic.


Italian Esports Open is a brand encompassing a number of events, not this tournament only.
Vasacast. What else?
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
September 14 2017 18:12 GMT
#69
On September 15 2017 02:56 ilovemmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2017 02:38 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
HsDLTitich, ilovemmy, thanks for the answers. What happens in the event a certain player decides to exploit it in his favour as a terran can easily just refuse to play on turn rate higher than 8 to gain advantage over a zerg player while turn rate 12 or 16 are completely fine for both players?


Hope that won't be the case during the tournament and everone will play fair to preserve the tournament sportmanship, however in particular cases an admin will have the last word on it.


Sounds more than reasonable, thanks for clarifying this.
Enjoy the game
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 18:28:10
September 14 2017 18:21 GMT
#70
A qualifier for North America would be cool, as it's hard to tell who the current top players in NA are. Many old players from the US and Canada have recently returned. If the flight cost isn't an issue, as one player from the US is getting invited either way, why not hold a qualifier to determine who the best player is and who should be invited?
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 14 2017 19:09 GMT
#71
Sounds too logical
|Terran|
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
September 14 2017 20:10 GMT
#72
Poll: Should ESL reconsider the map pool?

Yes (55)
 
92%

No (5)
 
8%

60 total votes

Your vote: Should ESL reconsider the map pool?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
September 14 2017 23:57 GMT
#73
On September 15 2017 03:21 EndingLife wrote:
A qualifier for North America would be cool, as it's hard to tell who the current top players in NA are. Many old players from the US and Canada have recently returned. If the flight cost isn't an issue, as one player from the US is getting invited either way, why not hold a qualifier to determine who the best player is and who should be invited?

would be better an America's qualifier, currently the best players from the continent are from South America
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10873 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 01:23:12
September 15 2017 01:21 GMT
#74
Woah this is huge, really low # of invites it seems but this is hype.

EDIT : I would love to be the one USA player invited, I am Italian after all. lol j/k I know there are more deserving players.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 15 2017 04:03 GMT
#75
Money.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 15 2017 04:56 GMT
#76
https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/scr/major/italian-open/qualifier-cup-1-europe/contestants/#!?type=name&order=asc

Draco and White-ra didn't register till now.
TL+ Member
FuryDrone
Profile Joined April 2012
16 Posts
September 15 2017 10:09 GMT
#77
Draco posted on netwars.pl that he can't play bw on the qualifiers playoffs date becouse of some work related trip and thats why he didn't register.
619
Profile Joined July 2017
United States87 Posts
September 15 2017 14:12 GMT
#78
Lets go ArcneoN! <3
619
Profile Joined July 2017
United States87 Posts
September 15 2017 14:16 GMT
#79
On September 15 2017 01:59 Demurity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2017 01:47 Eywa- wrote:
On September 15 2017 01:41 Demurity wrote:
I agree with trutaacz completely.

$16,000 is a significant amount to hold a tournament, but the response to players' voices is disheartening.

Somewhat disagree, the organizers are clearly just basing the map pool off of the Blizzard ladder, if players want to complain about the map pool, they should do so to Blizzard, not every tournament host that comes up. Like it or not, most (all) people hosting large events were not active in the Brood War community from 2010-2017, so it's kind of unrealistic to assume that they would come in with any other map pool than what Blizzard picked.

The only thing for me is that it should not be called "Open" when there are 3 QF spots of 8, but that's a minor aesthetic.


I understand your point. It's not so far-fetched to think that they could consider adjusting the map pool.

It's not that it's unfair, its just less ideal for the bw fans who would be the most interested in this event.
I.e. It's not unfair to have an event organizer to set the rules and say, we want the best players... buttttt you need to ride a unicycle while you play.

I'm just a 3rd party spectator. I'm not here to argue, but it's interesting to see how these events go. I'll watch regardless.


demurity not here to argue... pfffff
[SCB]Terranos
Profile Joined January 2012
Kazakhstan52 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 16:00:17
September 15 2017 15:59 GMT
#80
Yayba returned o_O
Go Yayba Go!
I feel u Die
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