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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 21:38:48
September 13 2017 21:32 GMT
#21
edit nvm
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
September 13 2017 21:52 GMT
#22
i really appreciate the event but.....
donating 1000$ each for inviting 5 players + paying their trips?
who are the invited players?
please change nostalgia and arcadia2, they are extremly outdated, everybody is vetoing them.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51461 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 23:08:58
September 13 2017 22:55 GMT
#23
On September 14 2017 05:31 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 05:26 _Animus_ wrote:
This is great event, but why invite korean players, that makes the others pointless. Big foreign only tournaments will be of huge benefit to the scene. New players will start practice hard for the big prizes, with koreans no one would bother to jump on this.


There is still 1000$ difference between 2nd and 3rd. And at least $1000 + expenses paid for everyone who qualifies/gets invited. I am sure people will practice hard for this even if 1st seems out of reach.


the first legitimate (ESL) big LAN event for BW in god knows how many years and people still try and find something to complain about

edit: my personal invite list would be

us - sero/ty2
europe - too many to choose from, biased me goes ret/draco
italy - cloud?
korea - scan (remember ASL is on at the same time)


as for map pool changes, my suggestions:
Outsider -> Gold Rush
New Bloody Ridge -> Crossing Field
Arcadia 2 -> La Mancha
Nostalgia -> Tau Cross
Python -> Gladiator
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tobai
Profile Joined April 2017
28 Posts
September 13 2017 22:57 GMT
#24
Wow great news, I might even take a trip to Italy to watch this live!
Hoping eonzerg will get an invite!
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 23:06:38
September 13 2017 23:05 GMT
#25
yeah one of the bad things is the map pool i would remove Nostalgia, Arcadia2, also Outsider, and i would also take down FS because it's too overused, every player has already figure it out what to do in that map in every single way, so it makes things look boring. i would replace those maps with Eddy, Reap of the Storm, Kingdom of Clouds and Uzi Sara
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
September 13 2017 23:08 GMT
#26
On September 14 2017 07:55 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 05:31 Keniji wrote:
On September 14 2017 05:26 _Animus_ wrote:
This is great event, but why invite korean players, that makes the others pointless. Big foreign only tournaments will be of huge benefit to the scene. New players will start practice hard for the big prizes, with koreans no one would bother to jump on this.


There is still 1000$ difference between 2nd and 3rd. And at least $1000 + expenses paid for everyone who qualifies/gets invited. I am sure people will practice hard for this even if 1st seems out of reach.


the first legitimate (ESL) big LAN event for BW in god knows how many years and people still try and find something to complain about

edit: my personal invite list would be

us - sero/ty2
europe - too many to choose from, biased me goes ret/draco
italy - cloud?
korea - scan (remember ASL is on at the same time)


From the US i would invite Nyoken, he looks pretty good rigth now, from Korea, Savior, i know everyone love him
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
September 13 2017 23:18 GMT
#27
There's hope!
It seems it has been hiding in a (now deconsecrated) church in Rome all along.
Enjoy the game
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 02:33:47
September 14 2017 02:33 GMT
#28
No NA qualifier? t.t
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
TheRealNeMu
Profile Joined January 2013
Bulgaria48 Posts
September 14 2017 05:11 GMT
#29
I honestly think from Europe Eonzerg should get an invite. He is by far one of the most active and best players from nowadays. Ofcourse legends like Draco should be considered but they have just reappeared on stage.
I do not understand the tourney having a Korean. At this moment they are far superior then us. If remastered gains momentum and we non Kors have time to climb up the ladder and be on a more close level then ok... but as of now it would be landslide and we will all be playing for spot2 and down!
has left the game
FuryDrone
Profile Joined April 2012
16 Posts
September 14 2017 05:50 GMT
#30
Yeah, invite Eonzerg, so he can claim W/O by build order advantage :D
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
September 14 2017 06:13 GMT
#31
Awesome.

But as many have mentioned before: the plan to invite a korean seems to be flawed. If just won't produce good games when a korean dominates every game. Will there be at least a loser bracket? Otherwise it really seems a bit unfair and a lot will depend in bracket luck.

Also you should maybe swap nostalgia and arcadia. It's not I complain about unusual old maps. I think one gas play could really produce fun games. It's more about positional imbalances because the maps were made when mapmaking wasn't as advanced as nowadays.
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Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
September 14 2017 06:45 GMT
#32
May be the korean will be from earlier generation, like Reach? Then it will not be that onesided.
BroodWar forever
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 07:16:29
September 14 2017 06:46 GMT
#33
What's wrong with people?

Garbage map pool.

How are you doing an invite only event when there's no EXISTING SCENE L M F A O. How do you justify any one invite over another when there's no competition.

Why throw money at an event like this. You could literally throw this money at a TSL 5 or something and actually get people playing again, not some obscure Italian offline event.

Italian eSports OPEN
> over half the spots are invites.

Great Stuff.

OBVIOUSLY it's a really good thing to have offline events pop up and stuff again, and hopefully it becomes a trend, but how's no one appalled at how disconnected event organizers are from any reality whatsoever. They don't really give a shit about breathing life into BW (DESPITE THE FACT THAT, CLEARLY, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT), they're just gambling and hoping to get views off the (possibly no longer existent) SC:R hype.

I mean I don't get it, do they just look at the ladder mappool and shove it all in there? "Eh, I guess this is good enough."
Game's been dead for over 7 year's? Let's just host an invitational, seems good. God forbid we incentivize competition.
This isn't how you grow a scene guys but hey thanks for throwing the money at the game I guess : ))))
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 06:49:12
September 14 2017 06:47 GMT
#34
On September 14 2017 14:11 TheRealNeMu wrote:
I honestly think from Europe Eonzerg should get an invite. He is by far one of the most active and best players from nowadays. Ofcourse legends like Draco should be considered but they have just reappeared on stage.
I do not understand the tourney having a Korean. At this moment they are far superior then us. If remastered gains momentum and we non Kors have time to climb up the ladder and be on a more close level then ok... but as of now it would be landslide and we will all be playing for spot2 and down!


jaeh draco just reappeared but hes already better then the rest


On September 14 2017 15:46 .gypsy wrote:
What's wrong with people?

Garbage map pool.

How are you doing an invite only event when there's no EXISTING SCENE L M F A O. How do you justify any one invite over another when there's no competition.

Why throw money at an event like this. You could literally throw this money at a TSL 5 or something and actually get people playing again, not some obscure Italian offline event.

Italian eSports OPEN
> over half the spots are invites.

Great stuff.



how you justify crying about this great event ? tahts wa way better question
why u bother invites i mean it doesnt affect you as u would never be able to qualify so there will be no difference in watching this

there are american events that are american only so lets be happy there is 1 american
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden176 Posts
September 14 2017 06:50 GMT
#35
On September 14 2017 14:50 FuryDrone wrote:
Yeah, invite Eonzerg, so he can claim W/O by build order advantage :D


Yeah lol i had to switch to his stream to see if he was serious or not, oh lord

Imo he should've been punished for watching the replay
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
September 14 2017 06:56 GMT
#36
Yeah I'm not sure about the whole invite thing. I mean it's great to secure some attention but from competition point of view there aren't really players that stick out in a way that they should be invited. Maybe after 2-3 events like that we can say who is currently the best non-kor player but it's too early to say. I would really like this to be 7-8 qualifiers with maybe that one korean participant as long as he is someone like lowest tier progamer that is very popular (nal_ra, boxer etc.)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
September 14 2017 07:02 GMT
#37
On September 14 2017 15:47 Drake wrote:

how you justify crying about this great event ? tahts wa way better question
why u bother invites i mean it doesnt affect you as u would never be able to qualify so there will be no difference in watching this

there are american events that are american only so lets be happy there is 1 american


xoxo one love *kisses* thanks pretty boy ; )))))
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
FuryDrone
Profile Joined April 2012
16 Posts
September 14 2017 07:34 GMT
#38
On September 14 2017 15:50 elKa-ThE-FeArEd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 14:50 FuryDrone wrote:
Yeah, invite Eonzerg, so he can claim W/O by build order advantage :D


Yeah lol i had to switch to his stream to see if he was serious or not, oh lord

Imo he should've been punished for watching the replay

That was just shady as f, but bitching about BO win after watching rep was just hilarious and totally against fair play
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 14 2017 07:42 GMT
#39
On September 14 2017 16:02 .gypsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 15:47 Drake wrote:

how you justify crying about this great event ? tahts wa way better question
why u bother invites i mean it doesnt affect you as u would never be able to qualify so there will be no difference in watching this

there are american events that are american only so lets be happy there is 1 american


xoxo one love *kisses* thanks pretty boy ; )))))


♥ see u can talk way more lovely
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6597 Posts
September 14 2017 07:53 GMT
#40
On September 14 2017 16:42 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 16:02 .gypsy wrote:
On September 14 2017 15:47 Drake wrote:

how you justify crying about this great event ? tahts wa way better question
why u bother invites i mean it doesnt affect you as u would never be able to qualify so there will be no difference in watching this

there are american events that are american only so lets be happy there is 1 american


xoxo one love *kisses* thanks pretty boy ; )))))


♥ see u can talk way more lovely

Bw makes people fall in love <3
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