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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
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ppp87
Laos254 Posts
On October 19 2017 02:31 HsDLTitich wrote: Finals map pool: Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Gladiator, Crossing Field, Gold Rush, Neo Jade, Outsider If I can give you my opinion about it and I think most will agree with me: it's way too much maps for a tournament, it's definitely not standard at all to have 7 maps and it will be very hard for the players to train all match-ups on all of these. Standard is 4 to 5 maps. | ||
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Dewaltoss
102 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 19 2017 02:31 HsDLTitich wrote: Finals map pool: Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Gladiator, Crossing Field, Gold Rush, Neo Jade, Outsider You might want to message all of the players directly about the new map pool as they aren't necessarily keeping up to date with the thread. | ||
Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
On October 19 2017 02:31 HsDLTitich wrote: Finals map pool: Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Gladiator, Crossing Field, Gold Rush, Neo Jade, Outsider Can you confirm this with the players please? I just mentioned it to NonY on stream and he seemed to be under the impression that Nostalgia and Arcadia are still in the map pool and that the maps would not be changed from the qualifier stage. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
On October 19 2017 04:30 Eywa- wrote: You might want to message all of the players directly about the new map pool as they aren't necessarily keeping up to date with the thread. Players should receive an email tomorrow with all the details (including the map pool). I just wanted to make sure people here knew asap about the change re maps because I guess they're still training on the wrong maps... | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
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Draco
Poland32 Posts
It's also strange that there are 7 maps in the map pool when we obviously will not play any bo7 matches. | ||
GTR
51703 Posts
keep FS and outsider as they were used in the qualifiers imo the last two should be circuit breaker (as it was a qualifier map as well) and new bloody ridge (only 2p map used in qualifiers) not the greatest pool but should be considered out of fairness for everyone edit: also not a fan of straight up bo7 grand finals. too long. i suggest either bo5 reset or bo7 with 1 game advantage to winners finalist. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12064 Posts
Circuit Breaker, Tau Cross, New Bloody Ridge, Gladiator and Neo Jade. That's a diverse map pool full of maps the players should already know and it gives you a 5 map pool finals/the ability to veto 2 maps to find the Bo3. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
Options kind of suck: 1) Keep terrible map pool 2) Replace the map pool with insufficient preparation time | ||
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Zany_pl
2 Posts
There are 7 maps, only 3 widely known and 2 available on blizzard ladder - when most of the action happen. 4 new maps equals 12 matchups to learn within 10-12 days - with 0 availability of them on blizzard ladder - how you guys think it is possible to play 50 (at least) matches in each matchup on each map to prepare? People now play only ladder and those maps are not there. I would suggest you dear organizers to limit numbers of maps to 5 (FS, Tau Cross, Outsider + Neo Jade, Circuit Breakers) and also final as BO7 is questionable - average game at this level is 25-30 minutes - final can take almost 4 hours - it is simply not responsible and boring for the audience and the players. It is not possible to play 3-4 hours with full focus when prize is 5k$. Zany, SC Fan :-) | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 19 2017 23:36 Zany_pl wrote: I've been head admin of tournament section at PGTour.net and head admin of PGTour.net later on and I've never experienced map pool change after qualifiers - this is simply a thing you don't do, especially when you deal with 16k prize pool tournament. There are 7 maps, only 3 widely known and 2 available on blizzard ladder - when most of the action happen. 4 new maps equals 12 matchups to learn within 10-12 days - with 0 availability of them on blizzard ladder - how you guys think it is possible to play 50 (at least) matches in each matchup on each map to prepare? People now play only ladder and those maps are not there. I would suggest you dear organizers to limit numbers of maps to 5 (FS, Tau Cross, Outsider + Neo Jade, Circuit Breakers) and also final as BO7 is questionable - average game at this level is 25-30 minutes - final can take almost 4 hours - it is simply not responsible and boring for the audience and the players. It is not possible to play 3-4 hours with full focus when prize is 5k$. Zany, SC Fan :-) To be fair (to the Bo7), part of tournament success is also endurance. If you look to other esports for comparison, dota 2 for instance is 30+ minutes and the LB team at TI has to play a Bo3 followed by a Bo5. Sure, the game doesn't require as much constant clicking and focus, but it does require a certain spontaneous quickness and mental discipline both of which tend to fade off during a long match. The main argument against a Bo7 shouldn't be the length, but the comeback potential. It's far lower than a Bo5 and the better player is far more likely to win... Making it generally less exciting to watch. | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
On October 19 2017 02:31 HsDLTitich wrote: Finals map pool: Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Gladiator, Crossing Field, Gold Rush, Neo Jade, Outsider Please update OP and notify players, thx. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12064 Posts
On October 19 2017 23:36 Zany_pl wrote: I've been head admin of tournament section at PGTour.net and head admin of PGTour.net later on and I've never experienced map pool change after qualifiers - this is simply a thing you don't do, especially when you deal with 16k prize pool tournament. There are 7 maps, only 3 widely known and 2 available on blizzard ladder - when most of the action happen. 4 new maps equals 12 matchups to learn within 10-12 days - with 0 availability of them on blizzard ladder - how you guys think it is possible to play 50 (at least) matches in each matchup on each map to prepare? People now play only ladder and those maps are not there. I would suggest you dear organizers to limit numbers of maps to 5 (FS, Tau Cross, Outsider + Neo Jade, Circuit Breakers) and also final as BO7 is questionable - average game at this level is 25-30 minutes - final can take almost 4 hours - it is simply not responsible and boring for the audience and the players. It is not possible to play 3-4 hours with full focus when prize is 5k$. Zany, SC Fan :-) Scientifically that's actually the max amount of time you can have full focus  | ||
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Zany_pl
2 Posts
On October 20 2017 16:47 Qikz wrote: Scientifically that's actually the max amount of time you can have full focus Yeah, you are very right my friend, but this is two day event. Day one is group play, day two is de bracket I suppose, so before that there will couple hours of intense play anyway ;-) | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
 still glad see draco and nony in it as they are my 2 favorite players (but strangly not enough zergs in this) | ||
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