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[CJ vs eSTRO]25 April Shinhan Proleague 2007

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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 14:32:30
April 24 2007 11:38 GMT
#1
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OnGameNet @ 1400 Korean Time
CJ Entus vs eStro


Game 1
Darkelf <Python> Cool[Fou]

Game 2
Iris <Shin Baekdudaegan> Upmagic

Game 3
TheManiaMST & Oversky <DMZ> ELIZA & bassen[fou]

Game 4
Much <Nemesis> Tester

Ace Match
? <Monty Hall> ?

Results
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Darkelf<Cool[Fou]
Iris<Upmagic
Mania/Oversky<Eliza/Bassen

CJ Entus 0-3 eStro
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 24 2007 11:43 GMT
#2
cj gogogog
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51637 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 12:06:00
April 24 2007 11:44 GMT
#3
nvm
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 11:45 GMT
#4
mycube, other thread for other games ;x
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 12:24:19
April 24 2007 12:10 GMT
#5
Good. Two separate threads. Let's see if this works.

Oh yeah. ESTRO FTW!!!

For a detailed explanation of my madness, check out liquibet

Let's see...

Darkelf<Cool (Darkelf is not cool enough)
Iris>Upmagic (Iris TvT = Upmagic T_T)
Mania/Oversky<Eliza/Bassen (It's DMZ. We can probably expect some gay rushing to occur.)
Much>Tester (I like much much.)
And eSTRO takes the Ace BECAUSE I VOTED FOR THEM!

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sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
April 24 2007 12:18 GMT
#6
GOGO CJ!!
Lets go DMZ 2v2 team!!

Also.. Iris vs Up, anyone!?! WOOOOO!

Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 24 2007 12:25 GMT
#7
Does anybody know why CJ isn't playing Savior in 1v1? I mean, not sending Savior today is consistent with using Much/Savior for Chariot of Fire, with this other team for DMZ, but uh...they're playing Much, who's in the same situation as Savior in terms of game preparation.

And they're consistently playing Darkelf. ~_~

Maybe Savior exploded after winning the OSL and no longer is spectacular?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 12:27 GMT
#8
I think that they are just trying to get more experience for the others initially in order to have a more well-rounded team. Maybe the coach sees something in Darkelf.
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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
April 24 2007 12:36 GMT
#9
Darkelf fucking rocks. sAviOr is still the best but yes they are building their team in the early games.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 24 2007 12:41 GMT
#10
Hm, are they still going by that (((3v4) winner v 2) winner v 1) format for Proleague playoffs? If that's the case, I'd personally think that getting wins is of utmost importance over getting players experience. If you go up one rank because of a win or two, you could either make the playoffs or not, or have to go through an entire one less round (which you have like a 50% of losing).
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 12:48 GMT
#11
Okay because LR claimed the other thread (and I respect him, even though I want to watch... ah well. I'll just watch the VODs later), I will be live reporting here. But maybe not for the first game. Homework >_<.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 12:51 GMT
#12
darkelf/cool seems like good match too

good matches on both sides D:

cool[fou] zvt so nice to watch

but midas tvp as well!

CONFLICTED D:
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sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
April 24 2007 12:54 GMT
#13
A bunch of teams this season are playing their rookies/ B players a lot. I would say they're trying to do what MBC did last year and get their players some exposure while giving them some stage experience. CJ keeps playing Darkelf, OGN- Luxury, Hanbit- Ganzi, the list continues. As we saw with MBC, the fruits will show in time. Hero's lineup easily has the most depth in the league, and they seem to be creating superstars left and right (not to mention 3-0ing everyone and their mother). The strategy definitely working nicely for OGN, I'll tell you that much.
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 24 2007 12:54 GMT
#14
GO ELFIE!
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 12:59 GMT
#15
Strategy not working for kTF

when they put out allstar team of reach/yellow/chojja/goodfriend/nalra, they won

then they try some aqua/hery shit and lose
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:06 GMT
#16
AAHHHH MY STREAM IS NOT WORKING!!!
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
April 24 2007 13:07 GMT
#17
Is anyone going to watch this CJ vs eSTRO series? :[

MBC vs SKT1 all the way.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:09 GMT
#18
I'm going to watch game 2 onwards IF MY STREAM LOADS!!!! and if i finish my homework.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:09 GMT
#19
Ahhhhh, there we go.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:11 GMT
#20
NO NO NO NO NO IT'S LAGGING
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sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
April 24 2007 13:14 GMT
#21
On April 24 2007 21:59 Last Romantic wrote:
Strategy not working for kTF

when they put out allstar team of reach/yellow/chojja/goodfriend/nalra, they won

then they try some aqua/hery shit and lose


LOL true. Aqua and Hery have been failing terribly. How bout that Neo Enfente, eh? Friggin kid played like a g-damn PRO against Bisu in ODT. Asshole. Forced Bisu against free. >_<!
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:15 GMT
#22
ah, yes. working again. in small snippits.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 13:25:50
April 24 2007 13:20 GMT
#23
WTF?!?!? Goes from opening and all of a sudden the stream goes straight to:
TERRAN AT 3
ZERG AT 12. Terran with large mnm force, two base, zerg with 3 base + (I think) harassing with muta at terran's, nat. I don't know wtf just happened, i will try to catch up.
Zerg going to Hive tech and had hydra den up, presumably teching to deflliers. Terran has just mnm for the time being. sci facility up, so likely comes orbs.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:21 GMT
#24
Zerg has lrkers on the ramp at his 8:00 expo, but terran scans and kills it with mnm. Looks like zerg with 4 sunkens at 12:00, throwing down a defiler mound.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:21 GMT
#25
WTF HAPPENED I STILL DON'T KNOW. Zerg looking to take 11:00. 4 base for zerg, 2 for T.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:22 GMT
#26
zerg with cocoons, 3 of them.
terran iwth 2 orbs, 5 tanks, handful of mnm. zerg lurkling contains the terran to just his nat. HAHA his guardians that were attacking the nat got irradiated.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:23 GMT
#27
Defiler out, along with 12+ lurkers, many mutas, many lings. I think T is dead, baked to a crisp. Well placed swarms push terran back, as zerg pops 3 guards out.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 13:24 GMT
#28
cool zvt very very top

not surprising if he wins

he's got winning rec vs nada? I think, not sure.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:24 GMT
#29
zerg takes out defensive structures and tanks at the t natural, along with a depot. VERY GOOD JOB of swarm leapfrog as he rapes all the scvs at the expo. terran will gg soon i think.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:25 GMT
#30
T is raped. zerg runs in with lurkling GUARD into his main. GGGGGGGGG. Not surprisingly.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:26 GMT
#31
Ack. Sorry about the shitty reporting, I don't know wtf happened. I can't believe I still caught game 1 though. I wasn't even planning on it.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:28 GMT
#32
eSTRO 1-0.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:32 GMT
#33
Iris vs UpMagic next!!!!!!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:39 GMT
#34
Iris peach @7
UpMagic teal @ 1.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:40 GMT
#35
depot for both at 9 pop, upmagic looks the slightest bit ahead.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:40 GMT
#36
rax for both, looks like the same timing.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:41 GMT
#37
upmagic's gas is done, iris is just about done. upmagic's rax is just abit ahead.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:42 GMT
#38
factory for upmagic, rax goes to scout. iris' rax scouts as well, fatory building. damn TvT.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:43 GMT
#39
iris starts his expo, while upmagic does THE SAME.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:43 GMT
#40
iris sneaks a vulture that kills both a marine and the scv that was constructing the expo.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:44 GMT
#41
another factory for iris, starport for SOMEONE. Upmagic's cc scv dies AGAIN. this is very bad for upmagic.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:44 GMT
#42
armory starport tower for iris. that's who it was.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:45 GMT
#43
and the same for upmagic..
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:45 GMT
#44
4 gols defending iris' nat.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:46 GMT
#45
2 more factories for iris, 2 with shops.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:46 GMT
#46
AHA! A second starport for upmagic in the corner of his base. two wraiths that are cloaked head for iris nat AND TAKE DOWN A DROPSHIP!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:47 GMT
#47
upmagic harasses the expo with two cloaked wraiths. Iris has no detection that i see. no sats, anything. iris builds an academy in order to get one.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:48 GMT
#48
upmagic moves to 5 with a few tanks and gols, but iris moves to the same area with twice as many. 7 or 8 wraiths for up.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:49 GMT
#49
wraiths harass iris' nat, then the main. iris goes expo hunting with his much larger tank/gol force.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:50 GMT
#50
two comsats for iris kind of help deal with wraiths. the way the wraiths are moving is troublesome for iris, weaving through the nat and main...
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 24 2007 13:52 GMT
#51
Thanks for live reports!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:52 GMT
#52
upmagic grabs a dropship, but iris scans the area and sees it. he also sees the rather weak defense at upmagic's natural. 3 ships for up. Upmagic takes 3:00. 4 dropships drop tank/gol into iris main! hero scvs take out upmagic's tanks, upmagic sets up his defense for the inevitable counter.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:54 GMT
#53
Iris attacks upmagic's natural, and almost manages to roll over, but each side has a couple tanks left. upmagic sieges his tanks on the ramp for that extra 30% advantage; his flying rax dies. someone seiving an expo somewhere... you're welcome funkie.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:55 GMT
#54
upmagic losing a lot of scvs to tank fir at both 3:00 and natural. upmagic tries to use them to fight, but the goliaths pick them off moderately easily.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:56 GMT
#55
Iris seiges at the lower ground of 3, and drops in two unseiges tanks. but upmagic saves his expo.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:57 GMT
#56
Iris builds 2 cc's at 5:00. Looks like umagic took 11:00, too. YES, hE JUST DID and is maynarding, and iris is headed over with tanks in ships AND MY STREAM DIES!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:58 GMT
#57
WTF I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE! I've been set lke 6 minutes back!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 13:58 GMT
#58
IT STARTS AT THE SAME SPOT EVERY TIME I RELOAD! SOrry, guys. T_T I think I can't report the rest.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 14:00:25
April 24 2007 14:00 GMT
#59
OMG. SAME SPOT AGAIN. No one post. I will watc this over and over. And I can pretend it's a live report when it's like 10 min old. Nvm. It died again.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
April 24 2007 14:02 GMT
#60
LOL i thought it was just me wtfff
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:02 GMT
#61
Okay. this LOOKS new to me. Upmagic reclaims 11:00 and graps 10:00. Iris takes 5:00 and 4:00. Upmagic slowly pushing towards 4, and turreting in the middle.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:03 GMT
#62
Turreting on the south peak of the east side of baekdu, to be exact.

Iris pshing towards 11.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:04 GMT
#63
umagic has a good foothold on 8:00 it seems. However, one seiged tank on the cliff is enough to deter him.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 24 2007 14:04 GMT
#64
Upmagic attempts to kill 8 with tanks, but gets stopped by tanks on top of cliff. Takes a lot of goli with him, though.

(i'm on GOM, if you've got this, i'll stop, but you seemed to be lost for awhile)
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:05 GMT
#65
Fp view of both, both are pretty fast, but look tired and slow-er. I see more teal than peach on the minimap.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:05 GMT
#66
Thank you, tuna. I as going to ak you on the other thread, but OGN taunted me by flickering. Continue if youlike.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:06 GMT
#67
Upmagic tank drops 5:00, and seiges with abou 6 or 8 tanks. Iris counters by tanking 4:00.
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BaboToss
Profile Joined September 2006
United States108 Posts
April 24 2007 14:07 GMT
#68
GG by Iris he lost
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:07 GMT
#69
Iris slowly losing expos to Upmagic. Upmagic climbs up 7/8:00 with tanks and forces the cc to lift.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:07 GMT
#70
GG FROM IRIS!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:08 GMT
#71
eSTRO 2-0 GUESS WHO BET ON THEM?!?
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 24 2007 14:09 GMT
#72
On April 24 2007 23:08 mikeymoo wrote:
eSTRO 2-0 GUESS WHO BET ON THEM?!?


A comeback is always possible so... ;D!!!!!!!!!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:10 GMT
#73
Yeah, I think in all likelyhood we will see an ace match.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:10 GMT
#74
Except, DMZ is a 50/50 matchup.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 24 2007 14:12 GMT
#75
I doubt bassen and eliza can beat oversky and mania O_O
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:19 GMT
#76
On April 24 2007 23:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I doubt bassen and eliza can beat oversky and mania O_O


I know, I just needed to justify my liquibet.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 24 2007 14:22 GMT
#77
let me guess, was iris super aggressive again and didnt take advantage by strengthening his econ?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:23 GMT
#78
Just shitty defending by Iris, and not enough raiding. I don't really know what happened.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:24 GMT
#79
But yes, his econ was bad. oh game starting ^_^
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
April 24 2007 14:24 GMT
#80
What the hell, is it just me or did up pull a super comeback? I was watching SKT1 vs MBC but, prior to that I was watching and saw Up getting really desperate, with a lot of his expos in jeopardy, IriS with a superior ground force, etc. etc.

How the hell did Up win?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 24 2007 14:24 GMT
#81
On April 24 2007 23:19 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2007 23:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I doubt bassen and eliza can beat oversky and mania O_O


I know, I just needed to justify my liquibet.


:D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:25 GMT
#82
bassen yellow 3
eliza brown 11
oversky orange is that? 8
mania 1

I THINK.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:25 GMT
#83
fucking gay scv rush. who called it?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 24 2007 14:25 GMT
#84
lmao DMZ.

HF reporting mikey P
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:25 GMT
#85
both terrns scv rush the conjugate zergs, both zergs get a pool.
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 14:26:07
April 24 2007 14:25 GMT
#86
Hahaha the observer ruined the colors

OMG for the better?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 14:26 GMT
#87
SCV SCV

THESE GAMES SUCKSHIT

SCV 5 POOL wooooo -_-;
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
April 24 2007 14:26 GMT
#88
lame lame lame lame lame
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:26 GMT
#89
eliza gets his pool! oversky doesn't! haji, you suck
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 24 2007 14:27 GMT
#90
LOL rush.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 24 2007 14:27 GMT
#91
Breaking News!!

I suck!!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:27 GMT
#92
eliza using his lings to essentially rape oversky. can the proleague just DUMP this map?

oversky with nothing he can do. he is just a meat wall.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:28 GMT
#93
mania gets his rax. ONE LING takes down oversky's main.
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 14:29:01
April 24 2007 14:28 GMT
#94
Holy shit gonna be gg

3-0 on both sides. WOW.

WTF.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
April 24 2007 14:28 GMT
#95
they left without a GG it seems

must be pissed
@riotsnowbird
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:29 GMT
#96
On April 24 2007 23:27 thedeadhaji wrote:
Breaking News!!

I suck!!


Haha. reporting on DMZ sucks balls.

WIN for eSTRO!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:29 GMT
#97
What a fucking stupid fucking map. 1/2 luquibet thanks to estro. OMG.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 24 2007 14:29 GMT
#98
god fucking damn looks like 0/2 for me
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:29 GMT
#99
On April 24 2007 23:24 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2007 23:19 mikeymoo wrote:
On April 24 2007 23:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I doubt bassen and eliza can beat oversky and mania O_O


I know, I just needed to justify my liquibet.


:D


BAM!
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
April 24 2007 14:30 GMT
#100
2/2 :-)
This map is the worst 2vs2 map ever made.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:30 GMT
#101
CJ's players are pissssssed.

Ah well. I can go to sleep now.
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 24 2007 14:30 GMT
#102
first time i've seen shift+tab+tab in an observer for the 2v2s O_o
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 14:30 GMT
#103
wtf

this map sucks
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:30 GMT
#104
VioletAK! You're a dragoon!
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 24 2007 14:31 GMT
#105
They played the ending music before it was over?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 14:31:38
April 24 2007 14:31 GMT
#106
On April 24 2007 23:29 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2007 23:24 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On April 24 2007 23:19 mikeymoo wrote:
On April 24 2007 23:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I doubt bassen and eliza can beat oversky and mania O_O


I know, I just needed to justify my liquibet.


:D


BAM!


8[
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:31 GMT
#107
On April 24 2007 23:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
They played the ending music before it was over?


Yes, they did.
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
April 24 2007 14:31 GMT
#108
On April 24 2007 23:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
They played the ending music before it was over?


Oversky tapped out before his hatchery died. OGN thought it was a GG from the team and played the music, but TheMania didn't leave so they were like oh..ugh.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 14:32 GMT
#109
who the hell

wants to watch games

on dmz -_-;
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zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
April 24 2007 14:32 GMT
#110
this map sucks so hard T_T
우리는 대-한민국입니다
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 24 2007 14:32 GMT
#111
Tonight's matches ended pretty quickly. Two 3-0's
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
April 24 2007 14:32 GMT
#112
maybe they should try to get a bit of an economic advantage by going for a 6 pool
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:33 GMT
#113
Worst map in the world. I could be a pro if we just played that map.
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 24 2007 14:33 GMT
#114
There has been whining over horrible maps every season, but DMZ has to be the absolute worst map for real.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:33 GMT
#115
On April 24 2007 23:25 thedeadhaji wrote:
lmao DMZ.

HF reporting mikey P


Wow. That lasted like 2.5 minutes. I had my fun.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
April 24 2007 14:34 GMT
#116
On April 24 2007 23:30 mikeymoo wrote:
VioletAK! You're a dragoon!

Wooo! I'm a Dragoon, Hoorah!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 14:34 GMT
#117
On April 24 2007 23:32 Polemarch wrote:
maybe they should try to get a bit of an economic advantage by going for a 6 pool


someone tried that

they lost, pool was like 5 seconds too late
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:35 GMT
#118
I'd like to see ONE expo on DMZ. How about some gm, maybe? Or maybe a tier 2 for zerg? I saw vults like 2 tiimes EVER. P's don't play on this map, do they? No stupid fast strats to abuse.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 24 2007 14:35 GMT
#119
O
M
G
!
THAT WAS SO STUPID AND EVERY DMZ GAME IS LIKE THAT.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 24 2007 14:36 GMT
#120
maybe someone should sunken rush the opposing zerg player, since it's always going to be ZT v ZT unless one of the teams is retarded.
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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
April 24 2007 14:36 GMT
#121
why don't they close their entrance with workers? you can close your ramp under dweb, so no one can pass nor kill the workers? o.Oa
I just thought maybe it would work
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 24 2007 14:38 GMT
#122
no

overlord gives vision of enemy minerals

so you can use scv drill to pass through any blocks
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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
April 24 2007 14:40 GMT
#123
On April 24 2007 23:38 Last Romantic wrote:
no

overlord gives vision of enemy minerals

so you can use scv drill to pass through any blocks


yes, i understood my stupidness just after I posted
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
April 24 2007 14:41 GMT
#124
Well it's not that unexpected really. Cool is pretty good and defnitely capable of beating Darkelf. The Iris vs Up match would have been a clear win for Iris a month or two ago when he was peaking. Up is so unpredictable too so overall that game was a tossup as well. As for the 2v2 it's totally random. Not sure Much would have beaten Tester either.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-24 15:01:44
April 24 2007 15:01 GMT
#125
Yayy GJ eSTRO!
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
pOOwarrior-
Profile Joined January 2007
United States518 Posts
April 24 2007 16:39 GMT
#126
z0mgwtf

I should start betting less on CJ and more on eStro
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 24 2007 17:14 GMT
#127
CJ seems to be slumping in general recently.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 24 2007 19:03 GMT
#128
hmmm
i just lost 27,000 minerals on gg.net
damn.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 24 2007 19:30 GMT
#129
Pics:

http://www.fighterforum.com/newsphoto/news_photo_read.asp?cat=PHO&idx=2013
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 24 2007 20:29 GMT
#130
On April 24 2007 21:25 Myrmidon wrote:
Does anybody know why CJ isn't playing Savior in 1v1? I mean, not sending Savior today is consistent with using Much/Savior for Chariot of Fire, with this other team for DMZ, but uh...they're playing Much, who's in the same situation as Savior in terms of game preparation.

And they're consistently playing Darkelf. ~_~

Maybe Savior exploded after winning the OSL and no longer is spectacular?


Yeah, I was wondering as to why sAviOr wasn't out at ALL - why send out an angry fat guy whose eyes are barely open (Darkelf ^_^ he's worse than most stereotypical asians) when you can send out Jesus.





Zerg, that is.
^-^
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 25 2007 00:09 GMT
#131
okay im at my school's computer lab with the worst internet connection ever... so i couldn't read live reports if there were any

how the fuck did up beat iris... cheese build? i can't see how iris can lose t.t
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-25 02:44:35
April 25 2007 02:39 GMT
#132
VODs!

Game 1: Darkelf vs Cool[Fou] @ Python
Download

Game 2: Iris (White) vs Upmagic (Teal) @ Shin Peaks of Baekdu
Part 1 | Part 2

Game 3: TheManiaMST/Oversky (White/Orange) vs ELIZA/bassen[fou] (Brown/Yellow) @ DMZ
Download

Game 4: Much (Blue) vs Tester (Red) @ Nemesis
Download

Game 5: CJ Ace (Yellow) vs eSTRO Ace (Orange) @ Monty Hall
Download


* All Credit goes to '밥' (Dcinside.com SC Vod Section)
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 25 2007 02:42 GMT
#133
On April 25 2007 09:09 Pressure wrote:
okay im at my school's computer lab with the worst internet connection ever... so i couldn't read live reports if there were any

how the fuck did up beat iris... cheese build? i can't see how iris can lose t.t


I bet on CJ but I'm glad eSTRO won 3-0. Always good to see underdogs win.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
KhresT
Profile Joined June 2003
Brazil187 Posts
April 25 2007 03:45 GMT
#134
where can i see images of this maps.
Also Know As Keeper-Vikter @USEast @ Europe and VikteR @ West
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 25 2007 05:14 GMT
#135
On April 25 2007 12:45 KhresT wrote:
where can i see images of this maps.


proleague map thread.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 25 2007 05:41 GMT
#136
iloveSonuvBob
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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
April 25 2007 06:10 GMT
#137
Savior has been slumping recently so maybe they're giving him time to recover? Or maybe they just keep him for the ace match?
Graphics
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 25 2007 06:12 GMT
#138
wow, eStro, anybody famous thats on that team besides upmagic?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 25 2007 07:19 GMT
#139
Cool[fou]
Tester[gm]
UpMagic
ArtOfZerg
Sangho
Magma
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
April 25 2007 08:06 GMT
#140
I think in order for DMZ to remain a substantial map, it either has to:
a.) Fuck zergs, go P/T as a 2v2 Team. Stronger workers, better rushing capacity and ability to defend.
b.) GET RID OF THOSE FUCKING CENTER RAMPS FROM THE MIDDLE. Or make it 815-esque ramps.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 25 2007 11:41 GMT
#141
On April 25 2007 17:06 QuietIdiot wrote:
I think in order for DMZ to remain a substantial map, it either has to:
a.) Fuck zergs, go P/T as a 2v2 Team. Stronger workers, better rushing capacity and ability to defend.
b.) GET RID OF THOSE FUCKING CENTER RAMPS FROM THE MIDDLE. Or make it 815-esque ramps.


Hear hear.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-25 11:56:31
April 25 2007 11:55 GMT
#142
what's wrong CJ?
Official Entusman #21
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 25 2007 12:11 GMT
#143
On April 25 2007 20:55 infinity21 wrote:
what's wrong CJ?


I think part of it is because the Maestro broke his baton.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 25 2007 12:34 GMT
#144
P/T problem - slower fighting units, no overlord to use for stacking workers on enemy mineral

but the map DOES need change.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
April 25 2007 17:19 GMT
#145
Just saw the VODs. Game 1 was pretty onesided, and Darkelf was fucked from the start.

Game 2 however was really really good. One of the best TvT games Ive seen this season. Constant action and cool BO from niSeung as usual, both players played very good.

Also was funny to see Xellos going into the box after Oversky and TheManias 2v2 incident. He did not look happy
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 25 2007 21:58 GMT
#146
If CJ don't start playing savior and much in 1v1's then I'm going to have to go back to being a KTF supporter. Although on the other hand it was good to see a zerg player beating down a terran. Definitely not seeing enough of that these days.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13427 Posts
April 26 2007 07:43 GMT
#147
Seems as though Iris can't win a TvT to save his life anymore.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
JRIGGED
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States19 Posts
April 26 2007 07:57 GMT
#148
SAVIOR!
=]
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 26 2007 07:58 GMT
#149
Drones have more range though, I agree, P/T is much better, marine/scv, zealot/probe is gg, just need good micro. I don't see zerg use zerglings/drones though, kinda weird combo.
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