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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 23:49:44
December 07 2016 23:36 GMT
#181
Is it wrong to be giddy simply because there's still a BW tournament with Flash, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu in it?

We are some lucky f**ks to still have this in 2016, eighteen years after release. Even if this one is gonna be a Protoss-fest.



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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10529 Posts
December 08 2016 01:17 GMT
#182
On December 08 2016 08:36 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Is it wrong to be giddy simply because there's still a BW tournament with Flash, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu in it?

We are some lucky f**ks to still have this in 2016, eighteen years after release. Even if this one is gonna be a Protoss-fest.




No, never wrong to be enjoying and basking in the glory that is brood war. I will never stop being hyped about brood war. This game will never die, we will always be here.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 08 2016 08:05 GMT
#183
STORK IS BACK!!!! :D:D:D:D
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 08:17:01
December 08 2016 08:13 GMT
#184
On December 07 2016 17:24 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 17:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.

This was uncalled for.


Truth hurts, and if that is uncalled for, then what the hell is "doesn't even know basic build orders"? Just a boldfaced lie? "Oh no someone im not familiar with is casting Broodwar and doesn't know the exact timings of these things. This is interfering with my wet dream of only BW players and personalities I care about coming back and replicating 2008 again." How about you enjoy the fact we get a free top level Korean BW cast in English from people who do actually know what they're talking about. "Oh no they mentioned SC2, this is ruining my nostalgic immersion because they are helping people who've never watched pro BW more than a handful of times WHICH IS THE FUCKING MAJORITY OF THE GSL STREAM!!! Im so sick and tired of this stupid broodwar vs SC2 bullshit. People need to grow the fuck up.

RANT OVER.


The guy literally doesn't know some basic build orders, though. It's not a "boldfaced lie".
LML
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
December 08 2016 12:38 GMT
#185
I love you stork!!!!!!
This day 3 bring me the probw days experience, sooo goood.

Typical free losses, and great play by rush. In one of the previous tournaments, he showed incredible army management vs zero, but lacked on game knowledge and lost. Hope he achieve at least ro8 this time.
Luv ya BroodWar!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 08 2016 14:55 GMT
#186
Personally I would be very surprised if somebody who follows brood war as long as artosis suddenly would forget what the meta game was at the end of BW. From what I can tell it also often the case that Rapid says something weird, and I can see that it would harm the cast more to constantly correct him instead of just follow up something wrong.

That being I only watched a few of their casts together and I enjoy Rapid's solo casts.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 08 2016 15:07 GMT
#187
Well Tastosis probably stopped following BW once SC2 came out, so about early 2010 i believe.
Rapid has done a great job so far, given that he has probably never followed BW
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 08 2016 15:21 GMT
#188
On December 09 2016 00:07 ortseam wrote:
Well Tastosis probably stopped following BW once SC2 came out, so about early 2010 i believe.
Rapid has done a great job so far, given that he has probably never followed BW

Rapid used to follow BW. He said in a cast that he used to be a fan of the youtube commentator nukethestars.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 16:37:26
December 08 2016 16:36 GMT
#189
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
December 08 2016 17:04 GMT
#190
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
December 08 2016 17:19 GMT
#191
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.


I have never seen Tasteless cast bw, apart from last ASL, but I know what you mean considering I was an avid SC2 follower. Honestly, I don't know which Tasteless we will get. I just hope, considering that you could physically feel his passion for BW last ASL, that he put a lot of work into following BW more and learning more about the current meta.
If he did, I think Tastosis will work very well in BW, though they probably would need to switch up their commentary roles (usually Artosis with the knowledge and Tasteless with the color commentary).
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
December 08 2016 18:12 GMT
#192
What's with these people coming from sc2 back to bw and just casually advancing?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5686 Posts
December 08 2016 19:41 GMT
#193
On December 09 2016 03:12 ggrrg wrote:
What's with these people coming from sc2 back to bw and just casually advancing?

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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 08 2016 20:47 GMT
#194
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
December 08 2016 20:54 GMT
#195
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 23:09:18
December 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#196
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
December 08 2016 23:27 GMT
#197
They were both high level players at the time for foreigner levels and his Analysis was mostly spot on. I am mostly disappointed that they apparently did not invest any time in refreshing their knowledge about bw so their excitement should be taken with a grain of salt.
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 01:17:04
December 09 2016 01:16 GMT
#198
On December 09 2016 08:07 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.


No, you're wrong. As was said above, Day[9] was known for his in-depth analysis. Tasteless was known (and is known) specifically for his lack thereof. He's known for his extremely entertaining casting style and chemistry with co-casters.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 05:31:15
December 09 2016 05:29 GMT
#199
Geez, who the hell cares if Tastosis is the best thing since sliced-bread or not?

If you like 'em, listen to 'em. If you don't, there's these two others guys named BisuDagger and FlashFTW who are pretty good (though those two need to equalize their mic levels... FlashFTW is consistently waaay louder).

Guess what I'm sayin' is, isn't it nice to have choices?

User was warned for being hilarious
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
December 09 2016 09:37 GMT
#200
FlashFTW is louder because he likes to roar into his micro with everything he has. :D Synching their streams would be a better advice.
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