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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
July 26 2016 12:11 GMT
#301
On July 26 2016 21:02 classicyellow83 wrote:
ah piano was late due to airforce reserve.


bring back airforce ACE
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
July 26 2016 12:12 GMT
#302
On July 26 2016 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:02 classicyellow83 wrote:
ah piano was late due to airforce reserve.


bring back airforce ACE

And get Fantasy to playing BW while at it.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
July 26 2016 12:13 GMT
#303
On July 26 2016 21:10 c3rberUs wrote:
Oh wait, so I didn't miss 3 games? Alright!

Mong vs Hero was pretty good.

Also interesting tidbit from FlaSh. That was also what he did in his game with ZerO I think.

flash mech transition is a bit different from other terrans,no matter the map he is always presuring the zerg.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-26 12:15:11
July 26 2016 12:14 GMT
#304
Wait didn't PianO already serve in the army?

Does it mean he's a reservist?

@eon, yeah I noticed that too.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 26 2016 12:15 GMT
#305
On July 26 2016 21:12 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:02 classicyellow83 wrote:
ah piano was late due to airforce reserve.


bring back airforce ACE

And get Fantasy to playing BW while at it.

I'm with you. I always loved to hate that guy. Being passionately negative is part of the fun of fandom.

Like hating the Softbank Hawks.
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
July 26 2016 12:15 GMT
#306
oh my god piano so lucky jaehoon decided to hold his ramp with that zealot
Forward
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:16 GMT
#307
On July 26 2016 21:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:10 c3rberUs wrote:
Oh wait, so I didn't miss 3 games? Alright!

Mong vs Hero was pretty good.

Also interesting tidbit from FlaSh. That was also what he did in his game with ZerO I think.

flash mech transition is a bit different from other terrans,no matter the map he is always presuring the zerg.

late mech changed a bit after flash came back to bw also. Traditionally, when switching to late mech, terrans used to put 2 addons on factories while using vultures. But, Flash puts 3 addons. He does this to use tanks more offensively. Now everyone does this. they put on 3-4 addons early on.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
July 26 2016 12:17 GMT
#308
On July 26 2016 21:15 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:12 Ciryandor wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:02 classicyellow83 wrote:
ah piano was late due to airforce reserve.


bring back airforce ACE

And get Fantasy to playing BW while at it.

I'm with you. I always loved to hate that guy. Being passionately negative is part of the fun of fandom.

Like hating the Softbank Hawks.


Or just learning to live with the scrubs on your favorite team... like SKT Zergs...
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
July 26 2016 12:18 GMT
#309
On July 26 2016 21:16 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:10 c3rberUs wrote:
Oh wait, so I didn't miss 3 games? Alright!

Mong vs Hero was pretty good.

Also interesting tidbit from FlaSh. That was also what he did in his game with ZerO I think.

flash mech transition is a bit different from other terrans,no matter the map he is always presuring the zerg.

late mech changed a bit after flash came back to bw also. Traditionally, when switching to late mech, terrans used to put 2 addons on factories while using vultures. But, Flash puts 3 addons. He does this to use tanks more offensively. Now everyone does this. they put on 3-4 addons early on.

the standard is to make 3 addons,making more addons is optional about what the terran needs.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-26 12:20:34
July 26 2016 12:20 GMT
#310
i just dont like how Piano is always doing the same build drop in tvp ,i almost never see this work xD
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 26 2016 12:20 GMT
#311
But why Mech switch? When BW was in its prime, players supported their Bio ball with Tanks and SV. But now it's all Tanks/Vulture/Goth?
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:21 GMT
#312
On July 26 2016 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:16 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:10 c3rberUs wrote:
Oh wait, so I didn't miss 3 games? Alright!

Mong vs Hero was pretty good.

Also interesting tidbit from FlaSh. That was also what he did in his game with ZerO I think.

flash mech transition is a bit different from other terrans,no matter the map he is always presuring the zerg.

late mech changed a bit after flash came back to bw also. Traditionally, when switching to late mech, terrans used to put 2 addons on factories while using vultures. But, Flash puts 3 addons. He does this to use tanks more offensively. Now everyone does this. they put on 3-4 addons early on.

the standard is to make 3 addons,making more addons is optional about what the terran needs.

It's more of standard now. I haven't seen much of late mech switch with only 2 addons early on these days.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:21 GMT
#313
On July 26 2016 21:20 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i just dont like how Piano is always doing the same build drop in tvp ,i almost never see this work xD

yeah. it doesnt work cause he uses it too much. =(
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 26 2016 12:22 GMT
#314
Protoss lost.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:22 GMT
#315
nice drop by piano.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
July 26 2016 12:22 GMT
#316
hoho this one working !!!!!!!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 26 2016 12:22 GMT
#317
Probuuuu
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:23 GMT
#318
6factory timing?
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 26 2016 12:25 GMT
#319
ah~~ no mines~~~
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8619 Posts
July 26 2016 12:25 GMT
#320
On July 26 2016 21:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 21:03 Miragee wrote:
On July 26 2016 21:01 Ciryandor wrote:
On July 26 2016 20:59 Scaramanga wrote:
I don't understand how terrans expect to get a foothold in the map and not get ratted as soon as he starts to transition into mech, plus the defilers deal with mech really well


It relies on the T playing extremely conservative and building early turrets in the base to keep production running, and keeping marines back to defend against ovie drops instead of pressuring.


Maybe terrans have to come up with something else on this map then? Late 4 base turtle mech transition has been effective on almost every map now. I feel like it's ok if terrans have to adapt a little bit for once.

Flash said on his stream that you have to be on the offense when going late mech on overwatch or else you will spend entire game defending while zerg expands more and lose at the end.


Which would be a nice change of pace.
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