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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 04 2016 05:22 GMT
#1

Intro



[image loading] Ro8 Preview: Final Eight

(Wiki)VANT36.5 National Starleague

Monday, Jan 04 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Format and Maps


Best of five



Matchup



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(T)Sharp              (T)Mind


Results


+ Show Spoiler [Bracket] +




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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 04 2016 05:22 GMT
#2
Poll: Winner?

Mind (9)
 
60%

Sharp (6)
 
40%

15 total votes

Your vote: Winner?

(Vote): Sharp
(Vote): Mind


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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 05:48 GMT
#3
Sharp has a legit chance to take the series from Mind. Skill versus experience.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 05:57:53
January 04 2016 05:57 GMT
#4
SHARP
FOR BBARAS
FOR SONIC
FOR JANUARY
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 04 2016 06:51 GMT
#5
pls change title to Ro8 Day 2 for consistency.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 07:15 GMT
#6
Expecting another 3-0. Sharp did great against Mind in ro16 but now mind should be well prepared.
Luv ya BroodWar!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10163 Posts
January 04 2016 07:44 GMT
#7
MIND MIND MIND MIND!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 04 2016 09:36 GMT
#8
A sharp win here would be amazing, but I'm still predicting Mind. @c3rberUs experience > skill :D
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 09:45 GMT
#9
Not always. Otherwise it would have been Bisu < sAviOr
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 04 2016 09:51 GMT
#10
On January 04 2016 18:45 c3rberUs wrote:
Not always. Otherwise it would have been Bisu < sAviOr

I meant for today's match exclusively.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2016 09:57 GMT
#11
CANT BLUNT THE SHARP
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 04 2016 10:00 GMT
#12
Reddit post: https://redd.it/3ze7eu



Last TvT of the tournament! Hope it'll be good!
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:13 GMT
#13
GO GO GO 조 기 석
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:18 GMT
#14
And so it starts!

CB. Sharp at 7 with blue. Mind at 5 with brown.

Lucky proxy position at 9 for Mind.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:20 GMT
#15
Quite a few marine kills from both sides.

Sharp follows up with a proxy fact at the center.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:22 GMT
#16
And now a starport in his base. Mind will scout it with his barracks. Mind with his own starport. Make that 2.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:26 GMT
#17
After some snipealot lag, Mind took his nat and both guys have wraith squadrons flying about. Mind's looks like it's bigger. Sharp adding his own nat now.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 04 2016 10:28 GMT
#18
MslChamp~
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:28 GMT
#19
Mind takes the first set after eliminating all of Sharp's forces on the platform.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:40 GMT
#20
Second set. Mind at 1 with yellow, opened FE. Didn't see because of lag. Sharp at 7 with white. Forward rax.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:41 GMT
#21
For those watching snipe2 u can switch to http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrtc
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:41 GMT
#22
Sharp chooses wraith tech to punish the FE
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:42 GMT
#23
On January 04 2016 19:41 _Animus_ wrote:
For those watching snipe2 u can switch to http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrtc

Thanks! He wasn't up earlier.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 04 2016 10:46 GMT
#24
Kinda sloppy there in the mid-map fight by Mind.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:46 GMT
#25
beautiful army maneuver by sharp going to mind form behind :D
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:49 GMT
#26
very bad control with that drop by Sharp, losing 4 vults and dropship for like 2 scvs.
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:52 GMT
#27
Sharp moving with all of his forces to break all the static positions by mind with success. Good usage of the army, mind needs to abuse this with vulture runby here and there, or he will get crushed.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 04 2016 10:55 GMT
#28
That Goliath, wtf?
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 10:56 GMT
#29
Come on Sharp you need to play with the same fire you had in the previous rounds!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:56 GMT
#30
i think after al this engagements in favor of Sharp mind cannot catch up in army count anymore.
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 10:58 GMT
#31
1 vs 2 mining bases for sharp, mind has to do some sick trick to get out of this position.
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:00 GMT
#32
i dont like this aggression from mind, while he has great control he cant support this.
Luv ya BroodWar!
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 04 2016 11:00 GMT
#33
1-1

And we have a series
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:00 GMT
#34
and gg from mind.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:00 GMT
#35
Mind with some pretty good desperate moves there but Sharp just smashed it. GG

Series is tied at 1-1. Woo Jo Giseok!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:05:17
January 04 2016 11:04 GMT
#36
FS mass gamingu gives results. Probably it will be different picture on the next maps.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:11 GMT
#37
Match Point next.

Mind at top right spawn with red. Sharp at bottom left spawn with yellow.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:12 GMT
#38
A lot of the TvTs on this map have been decided by vulture midgames (perpetrated mainly by Sharp and Last. sSak too if he played in Match Point)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:15 GMT
#39
lol Sharp chases away Mind's really forward(?) or proxy(?) rax building SCV.

Sharp starts his fact. So does Mind. Rax hovering over Sharp's base.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 04 2016 11:16 GMT
#40
Mind has really fucked up here.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:17 GMT
#41
Almost mirror builds from the two. Adding nats now.

2 Vults and a rine in Mind's base. Mind tries to do the same with his rax blocking the wall-in. Ebay saves Sharp omg.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:18 GMT
#42
And now Sharp has tanks crashing the operations at Mind's nat. Mind takes care of it.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:21 GMT
#43
Firebat hahaaha
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:23 GMT
#44
Sharp fucking obliterated Mind there. High ground advantage and a little more troops.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:24 GMT
#45
Dropship incoming to Mind's main
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:24 GMT
#46
this game is going to be very intereting, lets see how mind will do after Sharp has taken his platform.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:26 GMT
#47
I didn't like Sharp's reaction there. He spotted that dropship with the scv but no movement...

Mind trying his hand with a handful of wraiths.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:26 GMT
#48
thats the runby's im talkin about. gj mind
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:31:34
January 04 2016 11:28 GMT
#49
Sharp's hold continues.

Another drop forced Mind to evacuate his main scvs. Wraiths cleaned up.

edit - nvm
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 04 2016 11:29 GMT
#50
#lowground
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:31:15
January 04 2016 11:29 GMT
#51
Sharp is on faia. His mech usage is different from standart terran play, he dont take static positions for long time, instead he gathers his army and breaks them, new terran meta?
Luv ya BroodWar!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 04 2016 11:30 GMT
#52
1 more win SHARP!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:32 GMT
#53
On January 04 2016 20:29 _Animus_ wrote:
Sharp is on faia. His mech usage is different from standart terran play, he dont take static positions for long time, instead he gathers his army and breaks them, new terran meta?

Did he play like that in FS?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 04 2016 11:40 GMT
#54
On January 04 2016 20:32 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:29 _Animus_ wrote:
Sharp is on faia. His mech usage is different from standart terran play, he dont take static positions for long time, instead he gathers his army and breaks them, new terran meta?

Did he play like that in FS?

He did demonstrate that style of play, yes.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 04 2016 11:42 GMT
#55
Mind with two marines out to take out scouting SCV.
It still gets in. t.t
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:43 GMT
#56
On January 04 2016 20:40 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:32 c3rberUs wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:29 _Animus_ wrote:
Sharp is on faia. His mech usage is different from standart terran play, he dont take static positions for long time, instead he gathers his army and breaks them, new terran meta?

Did he play like that in FS?

He did demonstrate that style of play, yes.

I see. I only saw glimpses there.

Mind pulling a BoxeR here.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:44 GMT
#57
very smart play by mind, sharp choked.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:46 GMT
#58
Mind with the reverse bunker hop.

Wow Sharp breaks out.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
January 04 2016 11:46 GMT
#59
Did i say smart? no forget it, mind goes starport in a situation where he tries to fortify static position, omg.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:46 GMT
#60
Is Sharp going to overextend with this push?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:47 GMT
#61
HOLY SHIT

SHARP ENTERS THE RO4!!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 04 2016 11:48 GMT
#62
Wow, seeing Sharp being so happy makes me smiles so bright. =)
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51459 Posts
January 04 2016 11:48 GMT
#63
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:51:19
January 04 2016 11:50 GMT
#64
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:57:20
January 04 2016 11:51 GMT
#65
Mind showing uninspiring play today, especially in the last game. 2 factory and he wins that game, but no he decides one wraith is more important when you want to fortify your position against siege tanks. Having in mind how he likes to perfect his play its like i see someone else playing. Guess he didnt put much effort into practice.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:51 GMT
#66
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

That's the trade-off for Sharp's win. I guess :/

But still. All I wish is for Sharp to push Bisu (although after Last got decimated, it's very unlikely)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2016 11:51 GMT
#67
CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:52 GMT
#68
On January 04 2016 20:51 amazingxkcd wrote:
CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP CANT BLUNT THE SHARP

WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 04 2016 11:52 GMT
#69
Amazing series by Sharp. GG!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 04 2016 11:53 GMT
#70
On January 04 2016 20:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

That's the trade-off for Sharp's win. I guess :/

But still. All I wish is for Sharp to push Bisu (although after Last got decimated, it's very unlikely)


Well, Last's TvP is generally very weak compared to his other match ups. Does the same go for Sharp as well?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 04 2016 11:56 GMT
#71
Well bisu vs effort final pls.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 11:59:57
January 04 2016 11:59 GMT
#72
On January 04 2016 20:50 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.


PLS PEOPLE

lmao mind also had an easy group and he barely beaten an olympus who did not take his chances.

not to mentioned he lost to freaking Larva THREE TIMES in this and spotimes
before he get the final crucial win to advance ahead of larva in the VNSL tiebreakers.

people just look at this past glories, but mind recent performances has not convince anyone this season that he could go all the way either.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 11:59 GMT
#73
According to his TLPD imo it hoverrs between mediocre and quite bad -not enough against Bisu.

Child help this guy!

Regarding the last game. I thought Mind's wraith was a good idea too but now I think he should have pushed with fact pressure and then used wraiths as a follow up.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 12:02:11
January 04 2016 12:01 GMT
#74
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 04 2016 12:03 GMT
#75
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think

It's not impossible but this is different from a showmatch. It's a major league semifinal Bo5 with the best toss player in the world.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 12:16:45
January 04 2016 12:13 GMT
#76
On January 04 2016 20:59 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:50 feckless wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.


PLS PEOPLE

lmao mind also had an easy group and he barely beaten an olympus who did not take his chances.

not to mentioned he lost to freaking Larva THREE TIMES in this and spotimes
before he get the final crucial win to advance ahead of larva in the VNSL tiebreakers.

people just look at this past glories, but mind recent performances has not convince anyone this season that he could go all the way either.

You might be right about Mind's recent performances, so I'll concede that point. I still think Mind was good enough to move out of the RO16 in a tough group. He might have barely beat Olympus, but he managed to beat failhoon and Bisu.

This also doesn't mean we're completely wrong about having Sharp in the RO4 against Bisu of all people. Of course, if Mind is playing sloppily recently, like you said, it gives more credence to the argument that Sharp had it easier, no? Or has he improved that much to make it a series versus Bisu? Like I said, he's played well, but in both RO32 and RO16 he had groups with three Terrans each. And in each of the two groups, the other non-Terran players were his colleagues Bale and Olympus. Has Sharp's TvP improved equivalently as well? I guess we'll have to see.

Note: I honestly think it'd be fucking amazing if he beat Bisu.

By the way, who's responsible for the ridiculously crappy "Can't blunt the Sharp" catchphrase? lol
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 04 2016 12:16 GMT
#77
never said sharp is likely to win
honestly i think this QF is inconsequential since i don't see mind or sharp stopping bisu, especially after seeing they replace arcadia with the lovely PvTdiator
looking at the brackets its obvious they wanted bisu v effort/zero for finals
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 12:19:10
January 04 2016 12:18 GMT
#78
On January 04 2016 21:13 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:59 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:50 feckless wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.


PLS PEOPLE

lmao mind also had an easy group and he barely beaten an olympus who did not take his chances.

not to mentioned he lost to freaking Larva THREE TIMES in this and spotimes
before he get the final crucial win to advance ahead of larva in the VNSL tiebreakers.

people just look at this past glories, but mind recent performances has not convince anyone this season that he could go all the way either.



By the way, who's responsible for the ridiculously crappy "Can't blunt the Sharp" catchphrase? lol


o/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 04 2016 12:38 GMT
#79
On January 04 2016 21:18 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 21:13 feckless wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:59 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:50 feckless wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.


PLS PEOPLE

lmao mind also had an easy group and he barely beaten an olympus who did not take his chances.

not to mentioned he lost to freaking Larva THREE TIMES in this and spotimes
before he get the final crucial win to advance ahead of larva in the VNSL tiebreakers.

people just look at this past glories, but mind recent performances has not convince anyone this season that he could go all the way either.



By the way, who's responsible for the ridiculously crappy "Can't blunt the Sharp" catchphrase? lol


o/

This jerk^

Just embrace it!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 12:41:38
January 04 2016 12:40 GMT
#80
On January 04 2016 20:59 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 20:50 feckless wrote:
On January 04 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
welp, guess bisu has a free ride to the finals if all things pan out right.
felt like mind was the only terran who could push bisu.

This.
I still can't see Sharp beating Bisu.
He was fortunate to be in some relatively easy (or easier) groups. Very nice TvT play.
Good on him to make it this far, but I think he's going to get stomped in the end regardless.


PLS PEOPLE

lmao mind also had an easy group and he barely beaten an olympus who did not take his chances.

not to mentioned he lost to freaking Larva THREE TIMES in this and spotimes
before he get the final crucial win to advance ahead of larva in the VNSL tiebreakers.

people just look at this past glories, but mind recent performances has not convince anyone this season that he could go all the way either.


yeah hes looked wobbly after SSL11 it hasn't been that long to really call it past glory.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6595 Posts
January 04 2016 13:26 GMT
#81
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad

sharp is not amateur player
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 04 2016 14:28 GMT
#82
On January 04 2016 22:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad

sharp is not amateur player

I think amateur had become used for anyone that wasn't a starter in Kespa days. I agree though, this semifinals appearance definitely takes him of amateur status.
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Shinrei
Profile Joined February 2007
United States237 Posts
January 04 2016 15:04 GMT
#83
You guys are STILL underestimating the power of Sharp? Sharp for champion!
=^.^=
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6595 Posts
January 04 2016 15:34 GMT
#84
On January 04 2016 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 22:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad

sharp is not amateur player

I think amateur had become used for anyone that wasn't a starter in Kespa days. I agree though, this semifinals appearance definitely takes him of amateur status.

Sharp was a kespa player he played in proleague vs jaedong
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 15:49:19
January 04 2016 15:48 GMT
#85
On January 05 2016 00:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 04 2016 22:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad

sharp is not amateur player

I think amateur had become used for anyone that wasn't a starter in Kespa days. I agree though, this semifinals appearance definitely takes him of amateur status.

Sharp was a kespa player he played in proleague vs jaedong

He wasn't a starter and only has a 18 official pro games.

edit: That's what I listed as my definition. Ours can certainly differ ^
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 17:11:23
January 04 2016 17:10 GMT
#86
On January 05 2016 00:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 00:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 04 2016 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 04 2016 22:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 04 2016 21:01 Probemicro wrote:
i see amateurs like Sharp, Icarus and even Ample beating Bisu in BoX showmatch series before.
not impossible like some may think
but gladiator so too bad

sharp is not amateur player

I think amateur had become used for anyone that wasn't a starter in Kespa days. I agree though, this semifinals appearance definitely takes him of amateur status.

Sharp was a kespa player he played in proleague vs jaedong

He wasn't a starter and only has a 18 official pro games.

edit: That's what I listed as my definition. Ours can certainly differ ^
he had a progamer license lol.... He was getting paid for play bw,is stated in the sonic show about his bw team that sharp wasnt a rokie but someone with kespa experience that could help the others,hey no big deal but dont lie to others the amateur sharp is in the semis of vans sl.he was a kespa player with kespa mechanics training in samsung khan with top players and took part in proleague.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10163 Posts
January 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#87
RIP my TL shirt.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
January 05 2016 02:53 GMT
#88
Why am I seeing dramas... I'm gonna step out of the conversation... GL.
Anyways, Sharp played well in this QF.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 05 2016 03:08 GMT
#89
its not drama, only discussion.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 05 2016 03:15 GMT
#90
On January 05 2016 12:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
its not drama, only discussion.

^This. EonZerg has good points.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
January 05 2016 04:28 GMT
#91
Its nice to see Sharp playing well. Hopefully he'll keep up the pace and keep on improving.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 04:39:02
January 05 2016 04:31 GMT
#92
why does it matter sharp is pro or no? until proleague come back every player is "amateur" now and bisu will win this champion title anyway ^ ^
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
January 05 2016 04:42 GMT
#93
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 17:38:58
January 05 2016 17:38 GMT
#94
On January 05 2016 13:42 Ty2 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I really want Effort to win. The only thing I know him for is his 3-2 reverse sweep comeback versus Flash. I heard he got rookie of the year too for his performance in the proleagues and individual leagues. I might be so diehard here but I'm almost wanting him to resurge in greatness, but then again everyone has had their peaks and dollops of love. Damn it, please, Effort, you must win this? How many times have you lost? Like, knocked out of two tournaments. I think Effort, and probably because I've seen him the most has some of the most advanced late game ZvT who really breaks the conception that Terran is the most cost effective race, especially in split map late game scenarios. I think it holds true but Effort really does work his magic in adapting himself and thinking outside the box. While it was a fad with Zero as a Queen gimmick which he didn't really bring back into play, at least not nearly as much as Effort in the post-kespa scene, Effort is so good at the game. I mean, if you've ever seen how he evenly distributes the Queen broodlings on individual tanks, he probably distributes 12 different queens to broodling 12 different individual tanks in the frame of less than 5 seconds. It is magical to see him work that type of what would look like smart-casting in Sc2, an incredible feat, it's as if Effort uses his mechanics to make Sc2-esque awesome spellcasting a reality in Sc1. Truly amazing, just amazing. I saw him attempt to use Queens against Flash in maybe the 2nd or 3rd game of the finals OSL game but it didn't work out. I knew he had done it previously so really don't know how developed his whole Queen usage was back then. Really though, have I mentioned how great Effort's Queens are? I love his smart-casting, his flawless micro, his awareness and formidably astute will of power, to simply will the essence of things to be conceived into existence through power of will alone, just amazing. It's Effort, the man who just MAKES IT HAPPEN. Effort, he is a man who is in incredible form and shape who makes his will become reality through his god-like queen distribution control. I think you call it cloning, the micro technique of selecting a control group, targeting a unit to be affected by the ability or spell, and then deselecting a single unit from the control group and targeting another unit. I love it, Effort, you're so good at life, how do you do this? How has a man with such greatness not won already all the tournaments? You saw his late game? The man has awareness, a forward thinking mindset that goes beyond his years, a simply put, competent, sensible, knowledgeable awareness, an out of body awareness, a crisp, solid understanding and awareness of the various tools at hand to make his own genius become applied to StarCraft. The point is, his Queen usage and role as the Terran of Zergs in cost effectiveness is amazingly awesome. The man gives little attention to the scandals, he's a man of awesomeness. He can't deal with the mewling fans like me, he's serious, he's got goals, I'm pretty sure he'd be creeped out by my fawning over him in this comment, and that's why he's so awesome and he just doesn't give a damn. He's gone through life's tumbles and here he is now, not giving a single care or bit of attention to life's veteran bores and nonsense. The man's a genius and he deserves to win this trophy. Then again, hero is pretty awesome. No idea how he does it, I mean, hero wins SSL 11 where he beat Hiya I think in some group stage round robin but then he loses in some subsequent unrelated tournament, like spotimes or Vant or something and now all of a sudden, i mean, c'mon, seriously? Also, Effort, step your game up. Anyone see that game where Effort played vs. Mong, did tons of damage to mong, put himself in one of the best economic positions known to man that would probably let Effort singlehandedly bring the US out of its trillion dollars worth of debt? Effort, the so called "genius," flunked it, and yes, he's human, we all know that it's obvious, I know it, you know it, let's not argue the obvious, but the fact is Effort lost somehow and he even invested in 3/3 air upgrades yet never even made a transition to Mutalisks but it just goes to show how much damn money Effort had. Somehow though along the way Mong just outmacroed him. That was an absolutely ridiculous game and a part of me died there. This was on Circuit Breakers too, EFFORT'S MAP, the macro late game map with mad Queens all over the place. Man, but on that very same map he defeated Mong in some other tournament, maybe weeks had to go by but Effort in a further refined form simply plowed the competition one sidedly with even more dominant Queen usage, even better play that simply evolved centuries beyond what Mong displayed in the game. Effort had outpaced, outsmarted, out-evolved his opponent in the evolutional food chain and had become dominant once again. Truly astounding it was, truly, to hold Mong by the throat, pressing him down to the cement pavement, asphyxiating him from breathing, bearing down with a constant pressure of a continuous barrage and flurry of energy ki attacks creating a huge, ever expanding crater of pure destruction in the very crust of the earth, shaking its very firmament in a truly uninhibited display of unrelenting animosity in the purest, chaotic, most monstrous form of the untapped hidden beast that lies hidden deep within Effort. The words to describe escape my mouth, the words are simply incommunicable forever, no words satisfies and fills the empty hole in my heart to bring justice of coming close to describing the degree of sheer ownage that Effort flaunted without breaking a single sweat that bore down the weight of entire galaxies on Mong who didn't have a single chance to catch his breath. Effort's a man to not just win, he obliterates, he dominates, he eviscerates the very atoms of being that constitute his victim with such thoroughness. Effort, he's....he's a god...At times I freeze like a deer in the headlights and I get this heightened sense of feeling, like I'm about to utter the centuries elusive word that captures Effort's likeness perfectly in the space of an all encompassing single word, a word so great of such magnitude that the very threads of the universe are beginning to fray, nearing climax into spontaneous destruction, and again and again I deprive myself of the satisfaction until I realize, simply put, Effort is a god. That is absolute dominance, that is Effort in one of his most furious forms I've ever borne witness to, this is Effort in fighting form. He's ready for the kill. HE'S GONNA GET THE FINAL TROPHY YES. MARK MY WORDS. If he doesn't, I may become seriously emotionally crippled and compromised. Point is, I like Effort.

PS: I like mong too, he's cool. I also kind of like Effort, not really, but I like when he does his cool Queen micro. That's fun to watch.

Effort is slightly amusing by a hairsbreadth.

wow your passion for effort is incredible. I'm happy to see such emotions when talking about efforts queen play and overall zvt brilliance.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 05 2016 20:55 GMT
#95
shit, easy path to the finals for bisu now.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
January 05 2016 20:57 GMT
#96
On January 06 2016 02:38 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 13:42 Ty2 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I really want Effort to win. The only thing I know him for is his 3-2 reverse sweep comeback versus Flash. I heard he got rookie of the year too for his performance in the proleagues and individual leagues. I might be so diehard here but I'm almost wanting him to resurge in greatness, but then again everyone has had their peaks and dollops of love. Damn it, please, Effort, you must win this? How many times have you lost? Like, knocked out of two tournaments. I think Effort, and probably because I've seen him the most has some of the most advanced late game ZvT who really breaks the conception that Terran is the most cost effective race, especially in split map late game scenarios. I think it holds true but Effort really does work his magic in adapting himself and thinking outside the box. While it was a fad with Zero as a Queen gimmick which he didn't really bring back into play, at least not nearly as much as Effort in the post-kespa scene, Effort is so good at the game. I mean, if you've ever seen how he evenly distributes the Queen broodlings on individual tanks, he probably distributes 12 different queens to broodling 12 different individual tanks in the frame of less than 5 seconds. It is magical to see him work that type of what would look like smart-casting in Sc2, an incredible feat, it's as if Effort uses his mechanics to make Sc2-esque awesome spellcasting a reality in Sc1. Truly amazing, just amazing. I saw him attempt to use Queens against Flash in maybe the 2nd or 3rd game of the finals OSL game but it didn't work out. I knew he had done it previously so really don't know how developed his whole Queen usage was back then. Really though, have I mentioned how great Effort's Queens are? I love his smart-casting, his flawless micro, his awareness and formidably astute will of power, to simply will the essence of things to be conceived into existence through power of will alone, just amazing. It's Effort, the man who just MAKES IT HAPPEN. Effort, he is a man who is in incredible form and shape who makes his will become reality through his god-like queen distribution control. I think you call it cloning, the micro technique of selecting a control group, targeting a unit to be affected by the ability or spell, and then deselecting a single unit from the control group and targeting another unit. I love it, Effort, you're so good at life, how do you do this? How has a man with such greatness not won already all the tournaments? You saw his late game? The man has awareness, a forward thinking mindset that goes beyond his years, a simply put, competent, sensible, knowledgeable awareness, an out of body awareness, a crisp, solid understanding and awareness of the various tools at hand to make his own genius become applied to StarCraft. The point is, his Queen usage and role as the Terran of Zergs in cost effectiveness is amazingly awesome. The man gives little attention to the scandals, he's a man of awesomeness. He can't deal with the mewling fans like me, he's serious, he's got goals, I'm pretty sure he'd be creeped out by my fawning over him in this comment, and that's why he's so awesome and he just doesn't give a damn. He's gone through life's tumbles and here he is now, not giving a single care or bit of attention to life's veteran bores and nonsense. The man's a genius and he deserves to win this trophy. Then again, hero is pretty awesome. No idea how he does it, I mean, hero wins SSL 11 where he beat Hiya I think in some group stage round robin but then he loses in some subsequent unrelated tournament, like spotimes or Vant or something and now all of a sudden, i mean, c'mon, seriously? Also, Effort, step your game up. Anyone see that game where Effort played vs. Mong, did tons of damage to mong, put himself in one of the best economic positions known to man that would probably let Effort singlehandedly bring the US out of its trillion dollars worth of debt? Effort, the so called "genius," flunked it, and yes, he's human, we all know that it's obvious, I know it, you know it, let's not argue the obvious, but the fact is Effort lost somehow and he even invested in 3/3 air upgrades yet never even made a transition to Mutalisks but it just goes to show how much damn money Effort had. Somehow though along the way Mong just outmacroed him. That was an absolutely ridiculous game and a part of me died there. This was on Circuit Breakers too, EFFORT'S MAP, the macro late game map with mad Queens all over the place. Man, but on that very same map he defeated Mong in some other tournament, maybe weeks had to go by but Effort in a further refined form simply plowed the competition one sidedly with even more dominant Queen usage, even better play that simply evolved centuries beyond what Mong displayed in the game. Effort had outpaced, outsmarted, out-evolved his opponent in the evolutional food chain and had become dominant once again. Truly astounding it was, truly, to hold Mong by the throat, pressing him down to the cement pavement, asphyxiating him from breathing, bearing down with a constant pressure of a continuous barrage and flurry of energy ki attacks creating a huge, ever expanding crater of pure destruction in the very crust of the earth, shaking its very firmament in a truly uninhibited display of unrelenting animosity in the purest, chaotic, most monstrous form of the untapped hidden beast that lies hidden deep within Effort. The words to describe escape my mouth, the words are simply incommunicable forever, no words satisfies and fills the empty hole in my heart to bring justice of coming close to describing the degree of sheer ownage that Effort flaunted without breaking a single sweat that bore down the weight of entire galaxies on Mong who didn't have a single chance to catch his breath. Effort's a man to not just win, he obliterates, he dominates, he eviscerates the very atoms of being that constitute his victim with such thoroughness. Effort, he's....he's a god...At times I freeze like a deer in the headlights and I get this heightened sense of feeling, like I'm about to utter the centuries elusive word that captures Effort's likeness perfectly in the space of an all encompassing single word, a word so great of such magnitude that the very threads of the universe are beginning to fray, nearing climax into spontaneous destruction, and again and again I deprive myself of the satisfaction until I realize, simply put, Effort is a god. That is absolute dominance, that is Effort in one of his most furious forms I've ever borne witness to, this is Effort in fighting form. He's ready for the kill. HE'S GONNA GET THE FINAL TROPHY YES. MARK MY WORDS. If he doesn't, I may become seriously emotionally crippled and compromised. Point is, I like Effort.

PS: I like mong too, he's cool. I also kind of like Effort, not really, but I like when he does his cool Queen micro. That's fun to watch.

Effort is slightly amusing by a hairsbreadth.

wow your passion for effort is incredible. I'm happy to see such emotions when talking about efforts queen play and overall zvt brilliance.

His passion is okay, but he has work to do: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/452131-10k-bisu-bisu-bisu-bisu-bisu
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
January 06 2016 20:09 GMT
#97
Just watched the vods and gotta say that Sharp's play was impressive! Victory after 0-1 disadvantage must felt good Too bad he faces Bisu next, I'd like them both to win the whole tournament.
Thanks Bisudagger and amazingxkcd for the cast, you guys always double the entertainment value of these exciting games.
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