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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ks6C7mql.png)  Spotimes Starleague Finals & 3rd PlaceSunday, Sep 13 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kYyRpMz.png) 3rd Place![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/92.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/124.jpg)  PianO vs  Jaehoon Finals![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/581.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/174.jpg)  EffOrt vs ZerO
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1cJypin.png) 3rd PlaceBest-of-five < Neo Jade > < New Heartbreak Ridge > < Circuit Breaker > < La Mancha > < Neo Jade > FinalsBest-of-five < New Heartbreak Ridge > < Circuit Breaker > < La Mancha > < Neo Jade > < New Heartbreak Ridge >
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C7yDBIN.png) + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 1?Maybe (3) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 2?Maybe (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 3?Yes (4) 80% Maybe (1) 20% No (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 4?Yes (3) 75% Maybe (1) 25% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 5?Yes (5) 100% No (0) 0% Maybe (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 1?No (2) 67% Maybe (1) 33% Yes (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 2?Yes (2) 50% No (1) 25% Maybe (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 3?Yes (3) 60% No (1) 20% Maybe (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 4?Maybe (4) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 5?Maybe (2) 50% Yes (1) 25% No (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VFbIPih.png) Will be posted in Small VOD Thread
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Poll: 3rd Place Winner?Bermuda Toss (9) 64% Mookin (5) 36% 14 total votes Your vote: 3rd Place Winner? (Vote): Mookin
(Vote): Bermuda Toss
Poll: Finals Winner?Ugly Zerg (therefore by Coach Park logic, should not win) (9) 56% Cutie Zerg (7) 44% 16 total votes Your vote: Finals Winner? (Vote): Cutie Zerg
(Vote): Ugly Zerg (therefore by Coach Park logic, should not win)
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Lol @ poll.
Gogo Effort, although I like both.
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Hmmm, a ZvZ finals. Probably the only kind of finals I don't get excited about, however ZerO and Effort, hmmm...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Japan11286 Posts
According to my head, ZerO will roll EffOrt's face like dough.
Jaehoon's PvT should be good unless PianO's own streak in TvP comes into effect.
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PianO massing up the vultures, no tanks yet.
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Impressive vultures/mines play.
PianO with the early 3rd, Jaehoon's behind in expo timing
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On September 13 2015 19:10 Ruff_kz wrote:
Who is "ugly" zerg?
Inside shots fired at Coach Park for doubting EffOrt.
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Japan11286 Posts
On September 13 2015 19:10 Ruff_kz wrote:
Who is "ugly" zerg?
EffOrt
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Sick timing with the unsieged tanks by PianO
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lol fail Shuttle, Jaehoon ggs, PianO up 1-0
Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 1?Maybe (3) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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My stream/internet fails me 
Cant watch the games... T_T
Edit: Magic! It works xD
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Terranbreak Ridge game 2, show us the way of the Terran, PianO
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Powerful FD push incoming, I guess PianO doesn't want this game to drag on to late game on this map
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Japan11286 Posts
Afreeca don't fail me now.
Well, well, it works ^_^. First time it worked.
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lol both sides loses everything but Vultures are coming now!
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Japan11286 Posts
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Japan11286 Posts
+1 already started for PianO. Jaehoon going to take his third on the back of speed shuttle play. PianO with 4 gols though.
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Loving these 1 armory builds, 2 base Reavers into Arbiters for Jaehoon
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destruction on both sides again
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Japan11286 Posts
PianO pushes.
Arbiter is out so Jaehoon engages.
Vultures are out of position. Zeals smash into tanks. Lots of goon goo.
Goons pull back but zeals still attacking. LOL Jaehoon forgot the reaver.
Reaver cleans up what remains.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
the stream is so busted for me.
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no vessels, 1-1
Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 2?Maybe (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Japan11286 Posts
All tanks got statused lol.
hahaaha
GG from Jin Mook
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Japan11286 Posts
On September 13 2015 19:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the stream is so busted for me.
Mine doesn't have a problem today
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Zero is restreaming on snipealot
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lol proxy factory at 9 o clock
this is why PianO is a legend.
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Japan11286 Posts
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probably should've retreated a lot sooner, but at least he has turrets.
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Japan11286 Posts
PianO has a large advantage
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Japan11286 Posts
Well that sucked. Is this Bo5?
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Some sketchy decisions but still clearly ahead 
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PianO's TvP has come a long way, this is very impressive play.
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lol destroyed, PianO up 2-1
Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 3?Yes (4) 80% Maybe (1) 20% No (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Japan11286 Posts
Reaver dying to mines forces the GG
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My stream froze with scary JD face on screen o.O
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Jaehoon was very unlucky with those mines when he lost his nexus. But his engagement on Piano's next push was literally suicide. He just ran his dragoons headfirst into a minefield. Please jaehoon pull yourself together.
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Japan11286 Posts
On September 13 2015 19:54 HyralGambit wrote:
PianO's TvP has come a long way, this is very impressive play.
I still remember when he loses to basic shit. He's upped his game alright
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On September 13 2015 19:21 KobraKay wrote:My stream/internet fails me Cant watch the games... T_T Edit: Magic! It works xD
Unfortunately i had no luck with magic still not working
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game 4 , PianO scouts the 2 gate, oh boy.
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Japan11286 Posts
On September 13 2015 20:03 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2015 19:21 KobraKay wrote:My stream/internet fails me Cant watch the games... T_T Edit: Magic! It works xD Unfortunately i had no luck with magic still not working
Someone said ZerO is restreaming it in snipe.
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wow he could snipe that vult :D
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PianO being a little too ballsy against a 2 gate, Early port is always nice to see.
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crazy how good is jaehoon playing this game,is like is another guy playing wtf
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Japan11286 Posts
Nice anticipation from the bermuda.
Now Jaehoon destroys the little terran line near the bridge.
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On September 13 2015 20:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
crazy how good is jaehoon playing this game,is like is another guy playing wtf
Bipolar toss
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Japan11286 Posts
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2 gate pretty legit, more Afreeca Protoss should use it.
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On September 13 2015 20:09 c3rberUs wrote:
Oooh nice sim city
Yeah he had those in the last game too
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It seems you guys are way ahead of me....but considering how much magic was required to get this to work, I'll stay behind and not risk a refresh o.O
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piano is gonna try to hit it before arbiters
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jaehoon has a problem fighting in big battles.his control is a bit off for macro fights
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2-2,
Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 4?Yes (3) 75% Maybe (1) 25% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Japan11286 Posts
Push break clinic from Jaehoon
And Piano taps
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What build is jaehoon doing? I can only watch piano's stream since most of snipealot has gone nada on us
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he has scouted two gate..
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interest forward bunker placement, but no SCVs to repair it.
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looks like same from jaehoon as in last game
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2 base DT drop into 2 base arbiters, sigh.
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On September 13 2015 20:28 HyralGambit wrote:
2 base DT drop into 2 base arbiters, sigh.
hahahaha this is jaehoon vs terran
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a dirty carrier switch away from the arbiter tech.
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piano with better economy, but no vessels. It all depends on jahoons usage of his arbiter from now on
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Japan11286 Posts
Did I miss anything major? PianO with 3 bases but only 3 facts??
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piano with a big sigh as he scans the carrier switch LOL
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Japan11286 Posts
5 carriers out as Piano pushes.
5 gols for him too.
Stasis all over PianO's shit. Carriers reign supreme lol
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Cloaked Carriers, Enough Said.
Poll: Recommend 3rd Place Game 5?Yes (5) 100% No (0) 0% Maybe (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend 3rd Place Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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that was 5 stars play from Jaehoon
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Japan11286 Posts
Inevitable gg from PianO.
Jaehoon nets 3rd place! Yay Jaehoon!
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Japan11286 Posts
I like how bipolar Jaehoon is haha
PvX Enigma
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
now if only jaehoon could learn how to use cosairs....his vZ needs so much work
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On September 13 2015 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
I like how bipolar Jaehoon is haha
PvX Enigma
his PvT is abusive, his PvZ is self-abusive
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i remember when JH started to stream on afreeca he was so fast and very good mechanics,i thought with some work he could be like the best protoss of new age but yah,,is jaehoon,either play and win like a genius or loss like a noob auto killing himself
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On September 13 2015 20:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i remember when JH started to stream on afreeca he was so fast and very good mechanics,i thought with some work he could be like the best protoss of new age but yah,,is jaehoon,either play and win like a genius or loss like a noob auto killing himself
Wasn't that always the case during his career? At least from what I remember.
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Japan11286 Posts
Is his corsair control really that bad? I thought it was his decision making that's bad in PvZ.
You're right about the mechanics. Even during Kespa times, he showed he has multitask almost at par with Bisu in one game. He needs to be more consistent imo.
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Why would you push without vessels against arbiter/carriers? I think Piano should have kept it defensive and build turrets and waited for the vessels.
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On September 13 2015 20:47 tanngard wrote:
Why would you push without vessels against arbiter/carriers? I think Piano should have kept it defensive and build turrets and waited for the vessels.
I think he only saw them too late? Not sure if he was aware of the carrier switch
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Casters talking something about Season 2? Season 2 confirmed?
Game 1 starting EffOrt yellow, ZerO red
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Let's go EffOrt crush him! NooooooW  
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12 pool from ZerO vs 9 pool from EffOrt.
ZerO did hold off a 9 pool vs hero but that was crossed spawn on Jade. Why go 12 hatch on 2 player map?
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lol pulls drones then transfers them to the natural mineral line
new ZvZ meta?
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On September 13 2015 20:53 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2015 20:47 tanngard wrote:
Why would you push without vessels against arbiter/carriers? I think Piano should have kept it defensive and build turrets and waited for the vessels. I think he only saw them too late? Not sure if he was aware of the carrier switch
Well he was aware of it. When he scanned the switch he gave a big sigh like he already given up (bad attitude) and started building goliaths. Why dont terrans try to deal with carriers in a new way instead of doing the same thing over and over again? It seems to me that everytime protoss goes carrier terran end up dying.
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ZerO, former ZvZ master, goes 12 hatch on 2 player map.
Poll: Recommend Finals Game 1?No (2) 67% Maybe (1) 33% Yes (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Japan11286 Posts
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Game 2 on CB, same colors, EffOrt yellow, ZerO red
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zero with the 12 hatch again!
effort with the 12 pool.
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Wow, this stream is completely unwatchable for me. Are there any alternatives or ideas for how to improve it?
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Japan11286 Posts
ZerO determined to make his point eh?
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Japan11286 Posts
Maybe you can try the player's streams it's in FPV
EffOrt
ZerO
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nice zerg/scourge timing from effort,
ZerO still has gas advantage and muta count rising, no spores for EffOrt
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lol EffOrt muta control with the ling backstab, EffOrt looking good.
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outplayed! EffOrt up 2-0 now
Poll: Recommend Finals Game 2?Yes (2) 50% No (1) 25% Maybe (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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wow i cant believe effort won that.
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Japan11286 Posts
LOL Good 'ol buffer into gg for me
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Damn.
ZerO looked like he had the advantage for a second there.
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Come on...
Late-game ZvZ.
Pull yourself together ZerO.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
you can never ask for late game ZvZ
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game 3 same colors
effort with the 12 hatch
zero with the reverse scouting pattern, it pays off.
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On September 13 2015 21:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you can never ask for late game ZvZ
This is true.
Because as soon as I asked for it, the stream decided to become unwatchable.
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zero with the drone snipes
now zero massing lings.
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Zero ahead in the air, EffOrt ahead on the ling count
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lol
this is starting to look like a repeat of last game.
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And EffOrt makes Zero look like a scrub in muta micro and WIN!
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destruction
Poll: Recommend Finals Game 3?Yes (3) 60% No (1) 20% Maybe (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 4?Maybe (4) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Finals Game 5?Maybe (2) 50% Yes (1) 25% No (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Finals Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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effort is a f*cking octopus, 400 actions micriong every single units and forcing multitasking everywhere. holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ZERG GOD!
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EFFORT :D :D :D :D
GGsssssss!
That was fast o.O even for a zvz
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On September 13 2015 21:31 c3rberUs wrote:
3-Zero LOL
LOL
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gg Woongjin crew got stomped today.
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On September 13 2015 21:31 c3rberUs wrote:
3-Zero LOL
Nice one 
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Even in online finals, ZerO still has the habit of choking. smh lol
Ty for the thread!
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On September 14 2015 06:17 prech wrote:Thanks for the updates, all Disappointing third place series, glad  EffOrt pulled it out Who would've thought, after the Terran dominance at SSL10, that Zerg players would be dominating the top of Elo. Three of the top four http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sospa/players
Why disapointing? Are you piano fan? 3-2 score and very active games
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Japan11286 Posts
If zerg wins KSL that's when I'll say zerg domination. Imo, they haven't proven anything against the top TvZers in the land.
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Man and I thought Zero's zvz was the only thing keeping him above Effort right now.
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United States2948 Posts
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its piano vs jaehoon,, have to look elsewhere if you want TvP of the century
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On September 14 2015 13:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 06:17 prech wrote:Thanks for the updates, all Disappointing third place series, glad EffOrt pulled it out Who would've thought, after the Terran dominance at SSL10, that Zerg players would be dominating the top of Elo. Three of the top four http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sospa/players Why disapointing? Are you piano fan? 3-2 score and very active games
Glorious fun watching my boy EffOrt tear up this league. Guy is so fucking good.
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On September 14 2015 19:23 prech wrote:My thoughts exactly! EffOrt's ZvT is outrageously strong right now, seemingly with only ZerO coming close, and neither are ZvP experts, but I'd always thought ZerO had the upper hand in ZvZ... Hopefully Kwanro and/or Killer can dust off the cobwebs and show off some ZvZ prowess, whether it's KSL season 2 or elsewhere
I dunno about that. EffOrt in pro days had the second best ZvP aside from you know who. You don't lose that kind of ability and understanding, and nothing I've seen in his stream play indicates anything other than being very, very good at ZvP. I'd love to know EffOrt's tourney game results in ZvP since say, 6 months ago till now, but the TLPD database seems very thin.
No way EffOrt has only played 10 ZvP's...though he does have 10 wins.
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On September 14 2015 19:23 prech wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 15:14 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Man and I thought Zero's zvz was the only thing keeping him above Effort right now. My thoughts exactly! EffOrt's ZvT is outrageously strong right now, seemingly with only ZerO coming close, and neither are ZvP experts, but I'd always thought ZerO had the upper hand in ZvZ... Hopefully Kwanro and/or Killer can dust off the cobwebs and show off some ZvZ prowess, whether it's KSL season 2 or elsewhere
Hmm I haven't seen enough zvps from effort yet but Zero's best mu is definitely zvp and after Hero he probably has the strongest zvp right now. I really do think though for Zero its not even mus that is his weakness but its probably nerves. Hes just too inconsistent and is missing that 1% that makes a champion which is a shame because I really do like him as a player.
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On September 15 2015 14:11 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 19:23 prech wrote:On September 14 2015 15:14 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Man and I thought Zero's zvz was the only thing keeping him above Effort right now. My thoughts exactly! EffOrt's ZvT is outrageously strong right now, seemingly with only ZerO coming close, and neither are ZvP experts, but I'd always thought ZerO had the upper hand in ZvZ... Hopefully Kwanro and/or Killer can dust off the cobwebs and show off some ZvZ prowess, whether it's KSL season 2 or elsewhere Hmm I haven't seen enough zvps from effort yet but Zero's best mu is definitely zvp and after Hero he probably has the strongest zvp right now. I really do think though for Zero its not even mus that is his weakness but its probably nerves. Hes just too inconsistent and is missing that 1% that makes a champion which is a shame because I really do like him as a player. Definitely agree. He was always inconsistent as hell back in the pro days.
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Thanks to spotimes for making this possible, but next time i really hope they focus more on getting an observer that really knows what hes doing instead of just being a "pretty face". The observing in this tournament is sorely lacking. I understand its difficult to talk and observe at the same time but if hes struggling this much they need to get another person to observe. There's so many times where hes missing very important action while simply sitting there staring at absolutely nothing.
Not that they will ever see this or care what I have to say but still 
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United States2948 Posts
^^Yea, noticed this too. The stretched out 16 : 9 resolution also drove me nuts.
The best vantage point, observer or no observer, is watching the player's live stream. All the suspense and always on top of the action. Thank goodness for Afreeca 
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EPT
PianO or 
Jaehoon lost that first or second battle, he'd just 'gg'.
