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![]() + Show Spoiler [Polls] + Poll: First to Advance? Effort (11) Free (7) Tyson (2) Ample (0) 20 total votes Your vote: First to Advance? Poll: Second to Advance? Free (9) Effort (7) Ample (4) Tyson (1) 21 total votes Your vote: Second to Advance? + Show Spoiler [Recommended games] + Poll: Recommend Effort vs Tyson? If you have time (9) No (2) Yes (1) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Effort vs Tyson? Poll: Recommend Ample vs free? If you have time (7) Yes (6) No (1) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ample vs free? Poll: Recommend Winner's Game? Yes (25) If you have time (1) No (0) 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game? Poll: Recommend Losers' Game? Yes (14) If you have time (2) No (0) 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game? Poll: Recommend Final Game? Yes (9) If you have time (4) No (1) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? | ||
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prech
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Ample's quite a TvP beast, really tough group right off the bat! | ||
amazingxkcd
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On May 21 2015 08:24 prech wrote: And so it begins... Ample's quite a TvP beast, really tough group right off the bat! its anyone's game in this group. Ample with his TvP, free/tyson winning the PvP and effort nabs himself 2 Ps and a terran with a weak tvz. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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Ample completely dismantled Shuttle in the Challenge Day series, so his TvP looks good, but I need to see him play against better PvT players to get a sense of how good his TvP really is. That being said, he is currently 3-0 against free lifetime so we might see him get to winners then beat EffOrt's atrocious ZvT. My pick is EffOrt for sure, with Ample most likely moving on. Free is a slight underdog with this group, we'll see if his 56% PvT win rate holds up against Ample though. | ||
Probemicro
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On May 21 2015 13:13 FlaShFTW wrote: we might see him get to winners then beat EffOrt's atrocious ZvT. ample tvz isnt that good either, seen his black[kal] games against effort/hero/zero. above average but nowhere near piano/mind tvz imba-ness. and almost every zerg looks bad against the top terran players at the moment, so you can't say effort has atrocious zvt when hes merely practicing his mechanics against top terrans with standard macro builds most of the time. he saves his actual builds for competitive games, see his 3-0 over sea and hiya and yes ample tvp is real good and underrated but dont forget all matches are BO1, so it really depends on how each player has prepared beforehand, anything can happen. | ||
HyralGambit
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Countdown timer and streams should be list at the top below title. When I link this on Reddit, people can get the what when and where to watch easy. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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FlaShFTW
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![]() Pros will obviously have a slight advantage because they know how to prepare. We'll see though. | ||
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Qikz
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Hesmyrr
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On May 21 2015 20:38 Qikz wrote: Does anyone know the date this is on? It's not in the OP :p 2 days, 22 hours, 8 minutes from now according to the calender. I also demand OP add countdown timer to the LR, please! | ||
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HyralGambit
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On May 21 2015 20:38 Qikz wrote: Does anyone know the date this is on? It's not in the OP :p I should've made this LR. Lots of missing info in the OP... EDIT: ^ Or Blind-Rawr If you're going to do something, do it right. | ||
amazingxkcd
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HyralGambit
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Let's build some hype for Sayle on Reddit guys! | ||
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prech
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Have a suggestion for more content, want to do the LR thread, etc... no problem, but let's remain civil ![]() | ||
HyralGambit
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On May 22 2015 07:01 prech wrote: ^^calm down, mates. All fixed. Have a suggestion for more content, want to do the LR thread, etc... no problem, but let's remain civil ![]() The Greatest RTS in the World demands the greatest standards from its contributors. Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen and let some other chef do it. | ||
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On May 23 2015 22:16 xccam wrote: I would get hype, but I will have to wait until after work to watch twitch vods, I'll start getting hype once I have under 24 hours until I can watch it! but..but..hype | ||
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c3rberUs
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Man, I want all of these guys to succeed but there can be only 2. May the 2 best players advance!!! | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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On May 21 2015 13:13 FlaShFTW wrote: Effort SHOULD move out of this group. With two protoss and a monster ZvP game, he shouldn't have trouble, even if he ends up playing Ample in the Winner's match. Ample completely dismantled Shuttle in the Challenge Day series, so his TvP looks good, but I need to see him play against better PvT players to get a sense of how good his TvP really is. That being said, he is currently 3-0 against free lifetime so we might see him get to winners then beat EffOrt's atrocious ZvT. My pick is EffOrt for sure, with Ample most likely moving on. Free is a slight underdog with this group, we'll see if his 56% PvT win rate holds up against Ample though. i dont understand why you call efforts zvt atrocious,i watch his stream very often and i dont see any other zerg around dealing with late mech like him,the skill required is so high.one thing i noticed is effort plays better the games he is behind and worse the games he is ahead T_T | ||
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c3rberUs
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On May 24 2015 06:35 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i dont understand why you call efforts zvt atrocious,i watch his stream very often and i dont see any other zerg around dealing with late mech like him,the skill required is so high.one thing i noticed is effort plays better the games he is behind and worse the games he is ahead T_T They base their judgement on his tournament performances, I've watched plenty of his ZvTs myself on his stream and I can say he eats terrans for breakfast. But in tournaments, he does silly stuff and sometimes he fails to capitalize on his advantage like in one match, he got queens way before the terran even had 5 tanks out in the game. He could've expanded or killed him there with more aggression... sigh* edit - well maybe he doesn't eat them for breakfast, but he makes it look a whole lot easier than say, ZerO. | ||
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xccam
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HYPE | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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my excitement cannot be contained. | ||
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Wintex
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why am i at uni now nooooo | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 24 2015 19:05 Alucen-Will- wrote: So they are not using Fighting Spirit <,< you know you don't have to use FS for every tournament. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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i cant believe he loss that many sairs omg | ||
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On May 24 2015 19:14 c3rberUs wrote: Shit I'm late, missed anything? 2 stargate corsair opening and he lost 3/4 corsairs for nothing lol | ||
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On May 24 2015 19:37 Qikz wrote: I just realised something. I know I'm double posting as the LR is somewhat more dead than I'm used to, but OGN are using a lineup of my three favourite casters for this <3 They also casted the Challenge Day round. ![]() I'm torn between Free and Ample winning arrghhhh YOON YONG TAE HWAITING!!!! KIM TAE YEONG HWAITING!!!! | ||
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c3rberUs
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Free goes for gate core. Ample has rax going up and now a wall-in(?) | ||
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Ample with rax expo. | ||
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c3rberUs
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Ample counters Free's harass with some more harassment. Goons walk in to Ample's nat as DT destroyed the bunker. GG from Ample. Nice game. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 24 2015 19:57 whaski wrote: Yeaaa, just got back for the games! How was the Effort vs Tyson? one sided | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Effort vs Tyson? If you have time (9) No (2) Yes (1) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Effort vs Tyson? | ||
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Free at 1. EffOrt at 5. | ||
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c3rberUs
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+1 Zeal attack from Free. EffOrt takes his fourth at 7 | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:12 endy wrote: i haven't watched BW live in a while yay! hello old LR friends! Hello dear friend! | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: no defiler ? hmm There they are! And a lurker drop in the p nat! | ||
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c3rberUs
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Free massing at the center with goons. Zealots at the 9 3rd area chasing hydras. Free going for EffOrt's bottom left bases. Effort counters at the new 12 base of Free. Free breaks the lurker field at the long ramp. Effort stops Free with simcity, lurkers and swarm. Hero ling gets the nexus. EFFORT IS EVERYWHERE | ||
Miragee
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On May 24 2015 20:18 nepeta wrote: Good hold from Effort, he kills the 4th nexus while holding on to his own 3rd, now it is 4 vs 2 base! Yeah, I can't believe Effort was able to hold there. o.O I was sure he was going to lose at least one base. | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:24 c3rberUs wrote: Free defends his fourth from swarm and lings. Free going to counter at EffOrt's 5th base at 6 Good defence indeed, but you can't send your main army back and forth without fighting ![]() | ||
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c3rberUs
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Good game. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 24 2015 20:38 nepeta wrote: Music, visuals, models, sponsoring, broodwar... Where are JD and Flash? soontm | ||
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c3rberUs
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If they can at least do something like EffOrt vs Free... | ||
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Tyson with the early probe out. | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:40 whaski wrote: Hahahaha Pusan vs Polt :D pusan what? same team different player. | ||
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Ample O.O | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:51 whaski wrote: 6 fact should kill Tyson? he has no army but goons | ||
nepeta
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On May 24 2015 20:51 whaski wrote: 6 fact should kill Tyson? Terran push off 2-3 base is very strong. Tyson beware! | ||
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Qikz
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Now go beat Free! | ||
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c3rberUs
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GG. Nice work Ample. Better luck next time Tyson! But now he has to face Free. Oh shit. | ||
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On May 24 2015 20:59 Miragee wrote: yay, Ample vs free rematchU just like I called it. | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:06 SWAT-Kat wrote: Chloe Moretz is an American model/actress. Most people will recognize her as HitGirl in the movie Kickass. I actually watched that 2 days ago :o Thought it was really strange to have a little girl kill people... -so growing long legs and promoting shoes is a step up! | ||
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c3rberUs
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Ample at the left spawn. Free at the right spawn. Rax and gate core respectively. | ||
SWAT-Kat
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On May 24 2015 21:08 nepeta wrote: I actually watched that 2 days ago :o Thought it was really strange to have a little girl kill people... -so growing long legs and promoting shoes is a step up! She's a rising actress, so I'd say it's pretty impressive and a good move by SBENU to get her as a spokesmodel. LOL at all the deep voices cheering for free hahaha | ||
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Ample scares Free's goons away with FD and he adds a nat expo as well. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 24 2015 21:15 c3rberUs wrote: Robo from Free as he harasses Ample. hmm like I thought, free gets that shuttle play in PvT so often now. | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: hmm like I thought, free gets that shuttle play in PvT so often now. Haven't watched a lot lately. He does reaver drops these days? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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so KT | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: fucking what just happened Battle god happened. | ||
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Miragee
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On May 24 2015 21:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: fucking what just happened This was so Best-like, lol. | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:30 nepeta wrote: 11K live viewers on Afreeca ^^ This is also shown on TV, right? | ||
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![]() Anyway, 윤용태!!!!!!! | ||
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2Pacalypse-
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On May 24 2015 21:30 nepeta wrote: 11K live viewers on Afreeca ^^ That's nothing. TerrOr's tournament had 50k viewers. But this is still impressive since this is shown on TV as well. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 24 2015 21:35 2Pacalypse- wrote: That's nothing. TerrOr's tournament had 50k viewers. But this is still impressive since this is shown on TV as well. you also need to check daum numbers | ||
Probemicro
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On May 24 2015 21:33 SWAT-Kat wrote: wtf, are free's arbiters EMP-proof??? the moment the recall animation starts over your units the recall will succeed regardless of emp. nice try by ample, too bad he basically just fall apart after the initial attack. recall is extremely powerful on this map many angles of entry. | ||
nepeta
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On May 24 2015 21:35 2Pacalypse- wrote: That's nothing. TerrOr's tournament had 50k viewers. But this is still impressive since this is shown on TV as well. Ooh nice! No idea how many Koreans watch tv, but I suppose if it's on, it'll be more than 11k? Best live report thread for me this year so far, will be back, BW, Sonic & TL fighting! | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:37 nepeta wrote: Ooh nice! No idea how many Koreans watch tv, but I suppose if it's on, it'll be more than 11k? Best live report thread for me this year so far, will be back, BW, Sonic & TL fighting! good because we are only going to get better as we go on. | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:42 amazingxkcd wrote: good games today, eff0rt really making his comeback be known to everyone. continues his ZvP streak in tournaments. That winner's game though, thats how a zerg should play ZvP. | ||
Qikz
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On May 24 2015 21:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: good because we are only going to get better as we go on. Who's we meatbag. | ||
amazingxkcd
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On May 24 2015 21:44 BLinD-RawR wrote: continues his ZvP streak in tournaments. That winner's game though, thats how a zerg should play ZvP. +1 to that as i hope more zergs learn from that and follow that kind of play | ||
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On May 24 2015 21:37 Probemicro wrote: the moment the recall animation starts over your units the recall will succeed regardless of emp. nice try by ample, too bad he basically just fall apart after the initial attack. recall is extremely powerful on this map many angles of entry. Heh, I figured it was something like that. It just looked like free had hacks! ![]() On the flip side, if Ample had gained the advantage, wouldn't he be able to harass well with many vulture drops? Seems like HBR is a map where the aggressor can really snowball an advantage. | ||
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you ain't HK-47. | ||
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Sonic fighting! | ||
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prech
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![]() Hopefully our man CaucasianAsian attended the matches ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() snipealot2 chat log: http://pastebin.com/LQeT1Em8 http://justpaste.it/lbnd (mirror) | ||
Connor56202
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im currently uploading the tournament on my youtube channel fyi: i also uploaded the challenge day/round as well http://www.youtube.com/user/Connor5620 | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On May 25 2015 06:27 Epithet wrote: Could you add the recommended games to the original post please? Thank you done ![]() | ||
N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
name any build that could work against. Literally anything can kill the 14 or 15 supply second depot on the rax FE, into the low ground cc, into drops with 1 tank left as defense. Run in dragoons if you want. Any shuttle play. Slower than normal rax FE for being even with 12 nex or early third nex type economy investment. the low ground cc makes the second depot at the ramp not even that good against proxy gate. Even a dumb dt build that gets no damage in is possibly OK because the dt will give map control (but that is probably best chance for drop to work, if protoss is skimpy on units because of dt). Also note ample had a third cc building. Wanted to be super greedy but was too scared too (if you're going to be that skimpy on defense, just go for the normal rax FE and shit). | ||
Epithet
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Much appreciated and great job casting <3 | ||
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On May 26 2015 00:18 vortiT_T wrote: any vods?! VOD of Sayle's and xkcd's English cast: http://www.twitch.tv/saylesc/v/5385854 | ||
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nG.Templar
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EffOrt played against Bisu yesterday and 3-0 him, it's realy impressiv. But he still have some problems in TvZ especially against mech =/. | ||
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prech
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On May 28 2015 00:03 rebdomine wrote: No youtube VODs up yet? ![]() OGN finally uploaded the HQ versions to their Youtube... linked on ![]() ![]() Will try to add them to the small VOD 2.0 thread in a bit | ||
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L_Master
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On May 24 2015 06:35 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i dont understand why you call efforts zvt atrocious,i watch his stream very often and i dont see any other zerg around dealing with late mech like him,the skill required is so high.one thing i noticed is effort plays better the games he is behind and worse the games he is ahead T_T Yea wtf. EffOrt's ZvT atrocious? lol? EffOrt's ZvT is the opposite. It varies from good to sublime. Even in his earlier days when he would fuck something up and get behind it's still ridiculous, the guy consistently has defended 3, even 4 bases with a single defiler and lurker total, and then maybe a handful of lings at each base for 10-15 mins. Nowadays he isn't getting into that position, and is routinely munching up terrans such as Mong, Ssak, etc. on stream. As Eon says, his lategame vMech is so far ahead of any other zerg. Hell, even with his shitty draemong performance Effort still has a better ZvT record so far in post KeSPA than any zerg bar Killer. Then consider the fact that EffOrt is putting in the most regular and consistent practice of any player I see streaming and you know he is only going to continue to get better. EffOrt isn't just good he is THE favorite for SSL 11. On May 21 2015 14:07 BLinD-RawR wrote: Effort's ZvT is hilarious because even when hes losing it takes 30 mins for the terran to kill him. Haha yea. And it's usually godly defense that's really fun to watch. On May 21 2015 13:46 Probemicro wrote: you can't say effort has atrocious zvt when hes merely practicing his mechanics against top terrans with standard macro builds most of the time. he saves his actual builds for competitive games, see his 3-0 over sea and hiya This is really true also. Can't tell you how many EffOrt 45 supply hive, queens nest before lurker games I watch. Still wins most of them. | ||
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