EPTRibbon's No Goon PvP Tour - Page 2
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asiantraceur
United States94 Posts
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
On November 22 2012 09:56 ForeignBW wrote: While going over the final idea pool, that ended up being second. @Hyeon, Defi played Protoss until less than a year ago. He was Terran until mid-2010 iirc. thanks for the info  | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Why can't you normally get more than 2 reavers? Because normal people don't have the micro to keep them safe from goons. Why can't you normally go pure zealot/archon? Because the goons will pick off too many of them before they get in range. Why do we never see a stargate? Because goons brutally counter anything that it could make. Literally every unit you can make as protoss gets significantly stronger because of no goons (except for DTs being about the same, maybe only a little better, and corsairs are the same i.e. totally useless) | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
On November 22 2012 13:41 Ribbon wrote: I just wanna see scouts. The man has spoken. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On November 22 2012 13:41 Ribbon wrote: I just wanna see scouts. That's plural. He will not be placated by someone who manages to eek out a victroy scout before the other guy GGs. | ||
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
On November 22 2012 13:39 hacklebeast wrote: The more I think about it the cooler this restriction is. Why can't you normally get more than 2 reavers? Because normal people don't have the micro to keep them safe from goons. Why can't you normally go pure zealot/archon? Because the goons will pick off too many of them before they get in range. Why do we never see a stargate? Because goons brutally counter anything that it could make. Literally every unit you can make as protoss gets significantly stronger because of no goons (except for DTs being about the same, maybe only a little better, and corsairs are the same i.e. totally useless) Sair/Zealot/High Templar sir. | ||
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KoS-Templar
United States76 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10646 Posts
 GL to all! | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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asiantraceur
United States94 Posts
On November 22 2012 14:23 dRaW wrote: its going to be a lot of PvZ style openings because there are no goons so you can FE really easily. The follow up gonna be 3robo reavers into some long camping and then carriers... at least thats how i see pvp without goons Feel like their health allows zealots to runby not sure tho | ||
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
Calling it. | ||
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
On November 22 2012 14:23 dRaW wrote: its going to be a lot of PvZ style openings because there are no goons so you can FE really easily. The follow up gonna be 3robo reavers into some long camping and then carriers... at least thats how i see pvp without goons I think somebody should test it out because I'm pretty sure its a lot harder to keep zealots out of your base since they have a lot more health. Soo assuming Ps figure out that they can just FFE will people just start 12 nexing without cannons and just overwhelm the opponent with zealots if they try to attack (Because of the opponents big investment into cannons). Assuming that blocking a 2 gate with probes and 2 cannons is enough it would turn into a 12 nex<2 gate<FFE<12nex kind of metagame-ish thing. And Reaver builds fit somewhere in there, but the question is how exactly do you counter Shuttle reaver (Corsair* xD?) Are people just gonna Bisu build? | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On November 22 2012 09:56 ForeignBW wrote: While going over the final idea pool, that ended up being second. @Hyeon, Defi played Protoss until less than a year ago. He was Terran until mid-2010 iirc. that makes me even more sad lol..  why didnt you pick it !?!?!?also - get the maps changed a bit ! put more variety in it ! these late 2011-2012 PL maps are getting boriiiiing ! | ||
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msj)pono4ka
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msj)pono4ka
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msj)pono4ka
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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