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MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#21
On May 20 2012 21:57 alffla wrote:
why isn't bogus taking his natural


I can only assume he isn't used to playing vs expansion builds other than 1gate expands and is probably being over defensive because he's worried about some cheese.
@x5_MegaFonzie
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4275 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#22
Why no marauders? Its not the first player I see skiping Marauders until after medivacs. Against P that seems rather difficult to manage no?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#23
Now I see why BW players don't harrass lol
cLicK
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada450 Posts
May 20 2012 13:00 GMT
#24
force fields -_-;;
"정호야 하늘나라에선 아프지말자..." Rest In Peace KT_Violet (우정호)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4275 Posts
May 20 2012 13:03 GMT
#25
On May 20 2012 21:59 kakaman wrote:
Now I see why BW players don't harrass lol


And why is that?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 13:05:48
May 20 2012 13:04 GMT
#26
I love watching broodwar occasionally, even though i never really followed the scene at all, but these guys are making SC2 look terrible

PS no wonder flash said he thought protoss was op, the BW terrans are terrible in TvP :/
The world is ending what should we do about it?
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#27
On May 20 2012 22:03 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 21:59 kakaman wrote:
Now I see why BW players don't harrass lol


And why is that?


This is pretty much GM mechanics with Wood league tactics
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#28
that was so reaking crap boring lol god
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
cLicK
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 13:07:05
May 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#29
gg from Bogus.

Before I go ape, someone tell me toss isn't as OP as I think it is plz...

lol wth do u do against those force fields? so many caster units.
"정호야 하늘나라에선 아프지말자..." Rest In Peace KT_Violet (우정호)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4275 Posts
May 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#30
On May 20 2012 22:05 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 22:03 KobraKay wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:59 kakaman wrote:
Now I see why BW players don't harrass lol


And why is that?


This is pretty much GM mechanics with Wood league tactics


lol wood league ^^

Ok. Yes some of these tactics and decision making are rather lackluster to say the least.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#31
Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible
Meh
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#32
On May 20 2012 22:04 Surili wrote:
I love watching broodwar occasionally, even though i never really followed the scene at all, but these guys are making SC2 look terrible

PS no wonder flash said he thought protoss was op, the BW terrans are terrible in TvP :/

This is what happens when you have to practice for 2 games.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 20 2012 13:07 GMT
#33
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote:
Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible


yaeh word

but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
May 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#34
I have been trying really hard to get into watching BW, and i have been really enjoying it, but i am just so sad that every time BW players get a reason to watch SC2, there is a reason why the games look terrible, like the Boxer Yellow stuff, where yellow was awful, and now this. Also the stuff at anahiem i am sure will be god awful too, and i am gonna be so sad, because it is a really good game. Nowhere near as hard as broodwar, but it is still really good and great to watch.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#35
On May 20 2012 22:07 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote:
Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible


yaeh word

but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>


That seems to be how terran wins in TvP though, at least based on my limited understanding of the MU at the pro level. Reality pressured in the front, dropped in the back, and got himself a good solid lead. Then he attacked from the front before the protoss death ball can form, and won.

It's pretty boring play, yes. But then again I really only like TvZ in SC2, since it bores some resemblance to BW's large scale engagements.
Meh
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4275 Posts
May 20 2012 13:13 GMT
#36
On May 20 2012 22:07 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote:
Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible


yaeh word

but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>


From my understanding the snowball effect is huge hence big fight into gg happens. The way I see it, things were "nerfed" in order to prevent early game all ins in small maps, so when there is a huge fight and stuff dies, it is usually hard (in the sense that things take a long time to build) to replenish your army. That leads to one big figh -> win because you can't defend when the eventual snowball comes. You win a battle and are ahead because there is no time to have a new army back at home to defend, so even with a small number of units left from the big battle, those are enough to start dealing damage and then both defenders and offensive reinforcements arrive almost at the same time (warp gates and fast running units).

That's what I always tought was the problem that made these blob into gg fights more common than they should.

Then again, I watch a lot of SC2 but I dont play it so my observation isn't valid, idk, that's what the most logical justification I see for it.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 13:17:23
May 20 2012 13:14 GMT
#37
On May 20 2012 22:11 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 22:07 alffla wrote:
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote:
Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible


yaeh word

but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>


That seems to be how terran wins in TvP though, at least based on my limited understanding of the MU at the pro level. Reality pressured in the front, dropped in the back, and got himself a good solid lead. Then he attacked from the front before the protoss death ball can form, and won.

It's pretty boring play, yes. But then again I really only like TvZ in SC2, since it bores some resemblance to BW's large scale engagements.


This was true for a long time, but it really has been developing for a long time. Here is an example of a really fantastic PvT, obviously it is a REALLY good one so not that representative of most games, but it is really getting better and better.



Sorry bad link.


PS again, i won't mention things that aren't proper LR stuff again.
Seriously if you wanna give SC2 a chance check out that game.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
cLicK
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada450 Posts
May 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#38
lol Shy's interviews are interesting to hear.
"정호야 하늘나라에선 아프지말자..." Rest In Peace KT_Violet (우정호)
cLicK
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada450 Posts
May 20 2012 13:18 GMT
#39
Trap vs Soulkey

LETS GO SOULKEY!
"정호야 하늘나라에선 아프지말자..." Rest In Peace KT_Violet (우정호)
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#40
Finally let's see Soulkey's PvZ
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