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On March 22 2012 15:42 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
wow srsly reading through the hype, every other comment is haters on SKT. I dont understand why a team winning silver 2 yrs in a row is hated more then a team winning gold 2 yrs in a row. Anyone?
Wut? Sorry wut? I don't think any one legitimately hate SKT, whenever there's a comment that puts SKT in a bad light it's because the poster wants <x> team to win instead. You can however find hundreds of unjustified KT hate on every thread that involves KT regardless of rather KT / flash wins or loses, what manner they won / lost the game in, and what team they were playing against. Hating on any team for their performance is stupid, the only reasons why I would hate a professional organization is if they are unprofessional or display unlawful / immoral behaviour. SKT have been one of the pillars of BW, what I don't understand is SKT1 fans saying that they "deserve more wins" by logic of not having enough even though they have by far more team league wins than any other progaming team.
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On March 22 2012 15:42 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
wow srsly reading through the hype, every other comment is haters on SKT. I dont understand why a team winning silver 2 yrs in a row is hated more then a team winning gold 2 yrs in a row. Anyone?
As if BW was only 2 years old.
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On March 22 2012 16:29 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 15:42 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
wow srsly reading through the hype, every other comment is haters on SKT. I dont understand why a team winning silver 2 yrs in a row is hated more then a team winning gold 2 yrs in a row. Anyone? As if BW was only 2 years old.
He should check out how many gold medals are lining up on SKT1 achievement cabinet.
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On March 22 2012 11:46 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 03:21 George_the_man wrote:On March 22 2012 02:42 Ciryandor wrote:On March 22 2012 02:12 ffreakk wrote:On March 22 2012 02:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 22 2012 01:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
Also let's mix it up a bit from ol' KT vs SKT, goooo KHAN! Khan is good team but this is post season KT we are talking about. Post-season KT wasn't THAT strong this season, they ll need to perform better than that to topple the likes of KHAN. Sure they beat CJ, but every1 beats CJ in the post season. The last day was a blow-out, but overall it was still 2-1 vs CJ, which isn't all that impressive. CJ barely scraped through at the very last game of the season too. They neither had the time to rest or to properly prepare for their game vs KT. KHAN, on the other hand, are rested and most definitely prepared. Of course i havn't forgotten that you somehow beat us last season, and should you get to the Finals, we intend to pay that back in full  SKT had the preparation advantage had the Beijing finals pulled through, but the delay gave KT enough time to plan out a counterattack. thus resulting in 4-3. sure sure , just tell me ... if the finals took place in Beijing who from KT would loose his set? Hoejja to S2? Stats to Soo? or Flash to Best? HoeJJa to s2 is a ZvZ. Coinflip right there means that it could have easily ended right there. Stats to soO is viable because Hydrabust can always happen, and PvZ is inherently Z favored. Flash v BeSt is slightly Flash favored just because Flash, but having more time to read BeSt's expo timings like he did in their Ace match was a big factor in securing the victory for him, as it allowed him to not get macro-rolled and use his attack timing to maximum effect. In any case, remember that SKT's forte has always been preparation in their matches *points to Fantasy*. SKT has solid players that are really good at prepared match-ups, but are vulnerable because their on-the-fly play is weaker than a team like CJ or Khan. Had KT not had the time to rest given by the forced rescheduling, they would have been less prepared than they were, and that's an intangible factor we have no idea of how it influenced the series. TL;DR SKT has a preparation advantage right now versus whoever they'll face in the Finals, barring another delay in it being held.
Or SKT got beat fair and square and it's stupid trying to justify it. KT beat a lot of good teams on their way to beating SKT and saying "Well you just got lucky!" is insulting to them and everyone they beat.
A "coinflip" ZvZ clearly makes no difference in preparation, the way you're phrasing it, and that means you expected Stats to lose with only, what was it, a week and a half of preparation? Same goes to Flash vs Best. I think you're just repeating what Oov said as an excuse for why the team lost instead of crediting why KT won.
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On March 22 2012 11:46 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 03:21 George_the_man wrote:On March 22 2012 02:42 Ciryandor wrote:On March 22 2012 02:12 ffreakk wrote:On March 22 2012 02:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 22 2012 01:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
Also let's mix it up a bit from ol' KT vs SKT, goooo KHAN! Khan is good team but this is post season KT we are talking about. Post-season KT wasn't THAT strong this season, they ll need to perform better than that to topple the likes of KHAN. Sure they beat CJ, but every1 beats CJ in the post season. The last day was a blow-out, but overall it was still 2-1 vs CJ, which isn't all that impressive. CJ barely scraped through at the very last game of the season too. They neither had the time to rest or to properly prepare for their game vs KT. KHAN, on the other hand, are rested and most definitely prepared. Of course i havn't forgotten that you somehow beat us last season, and should you get to the Finals, we intend to pay that back in full SKT had the preparation advantage had the Beijing finals pulled through, but the delay gave KT enough time to plan out a counterattack. thus resulting in 4-3. sure sure , just tell me ... if the finals took place in Beijing who from KT would loose his set? Hoejja to S2? Stats to Soo? or Flash to Best? HoeJJa to s2 is a ZvZ. Coinflip right there means that it could have easily ended right there. Stats to soO is viable because Hydrabust can always happen, and PvZ is inherently Z favored. Flash v BeSt is slightly Flash favored just because Flash, but having more time to read BeSt's expo timings like he did in their Ace match was a big factor in securing the victory for him, as it allowed him to not get macro-rolled and use his attack timing to maximum effect. In any case, remember that SKT's forte has always been preparation in their matches *points to Fantasy*. SKT has solid players that are really good at prepared match-ups, but are vulnerable because their on-the-fly play is weaker than a team like CJ or Khan. Had KT not had the time to rest given by the forced rescheduling, they would have been less prepared than they were, and that's an intangible factor we have no idea of how it influenced the series. TL;DR SKT has a preparation advantage right now versus whoever they'll face in the Finals, barring another delay in it being held.
Did you watch Hoejja vs s2? There was nothing coinflip about it, both builds were uncommon, hoejja went hatchery at the third first and s2 went 9 extractor 10 overlord 10 pool into in-base hatch. SKT's strategy preparation is alot better than many other teams for sure, fantasy is extremely hard working at preparing but is actually a counter example of this though, he plays very well on the fly and pulls off alot of recoveries from unfavorable positions on the fly. Bisu / Best have traditionally play much more safely according to builds that are well established by their play style and it's always surprising if they do anything different. Best is alot more adaptive this season and it shows in the varying results he's been getting (perfect record against top zergs, loses in PvT). I think when you say good at prepared match-ups you mean being predictable though and I don't think that has to be the case. Being prepared means knowing how to react on the fly as well to likely possible scenarios, being predictable will lose you games.
Edit: now that i think about it, Best losing PvT's this season may be the result of him being predictable in PvT. I will have to check vods.
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YES WE KHAN!!
Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again 
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On March 22 2012 15:42 PurePwnageofTerran wrote:
wow srsly reading through the hype, every other comment is haters on SKT. I dont understand why a team winning silver 2 yrs in a row is hated more then a team winning gold 2 yrs in a row. Anyone?
There's a reason why SKT has earned the title of being "The Empire of the ProLeague". It makes for an easy target of hate simply because people like going for the underdog. Making it to 3 finals in a row dispite the previous 2 being silver medals is quite an achievement and they did win the WinnersLeague tournament last time.
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Dominican Republic145 Posts
On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again
is flash going to have a surgery again?
that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now.
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On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now.
Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51705 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi.
if its gonna be a ZvP I want to see cows, storms and Dark Archons...I won't have it any other way.
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On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi.
Going to be hard to avoid khan's probable linueup of stork jangbi brave and grape
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On March 23 2012 02:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi. if its gonna be a ZvP I want to see cows, storms and Dark Archons...I won't have it any other way.
That would be so cool. But I think a Hydra bust is more likely 
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51705 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:27 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi. Going to be hard to avoid khan's probable linueup of stork jangbi brave and grape
At least we know when exactly brave is going to play, lol.
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I'm hoping to see a JangBi vs Flash match
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Flash vs Stork or Jangbi would make me very happy. Also, Flash coming out on Neo Outlier despite how shitty it is for Terran.
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On March 23 2012 04:22 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash vs Stork or Jangbi would make me very happy. Also, Flash coming out on Neo Outlier despite how shitty it is for Terran.
I am intrigued though, because there's been almost no games on outlier (1 on outlier, 0 on neo) that have been TvP, the only one that did happen on outlier was a cheese by the toss any ways. It's definitely terrible TvZ, but what are the chances of January sending Shine or Roro on ace?
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On March 23 2012 03:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 02:27 hacklebeast wrote:On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi. Going to be hard to avoid khan's probable linueup of stork jangbi brave and grape At least we know when exactly brave is going to play, lol.
Or so you think
Brave has been secretly practising his PvT and has been preparing for the moment where he snipes Flash
his strategy is already so perfect that January could not risk sending him out vs a T in his last 20342034 games just so Flash doesn't see this one coming
Brave has just been waiting a long time for this...
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On March 23 2012 04:41 Soft`Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 03:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2012 02:27 hacklebeast wrote:On March 23 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote:On March 23 2012 01:29 quien wrote:On March 22 2012 22:08 topherthetoad wrote:YES WE KHAN!! Jangbi going to make Flash his bitch again is flash going to have a surgery again? that time flash almost crush jangbi only using one hand, and while he was preparing for a big surgery. lets see what happen now. Don't think KT coach will send Flash against P. 100 percent he tries to avoid a toss for Flash. Probably we will see CH and Action playing Stork and Jangbi. Going to be hard to avoid khan's probable linueup of stork jangbi brave and grape At least we know when exactly brave is going to play, lol. January has just been waiting a long time for this...
TvT on outlier / chain reaction, you heard it here first.
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JANGBANGER INCOMMING. GONNA BE SICK!
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