On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?
Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too
Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1981
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote: can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier? Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too | ||
neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1982
If it doesn't, he'll be called a fool. | ||
pencil-leads
Singapore404 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1983
| ||
Motivate
2860 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1984
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote: On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote: On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote: On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote: wow, I'm actually surprised by that one WTF why? outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on. Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran. afaik a T has never won on outlier hasn't T been played once on outlier? Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is. hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset. still a bullshit map though i'll agree. | ||
Captain Peabody
United States3111 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1985
| ||
Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1986
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote: On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote: On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote: On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote: wow, I'm actually surprised by that one WTF why? outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on. Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran. afaik a T has never won on outlier hasn't T been played once on outlier? Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 2 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is. yeah that's the only t that i saw get played on that map lol but i guess there were a few more games | ||
Captain Peabody
United States3111 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1987
On March 24 2012 14:46 neobowman wrote: If this works, KT coach will be called a genius. If it doesn't, he'll be called a fool. Welcome to the Internet. ![]() | ||
Zona
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1988
| ||
oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1989
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote: can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier? Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too thanks. | ||
DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1990
| ||
Motivate
2860 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1991
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote: can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier? Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit. last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn. | ||
Zona
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1992
Stats in white at 8 Neo Outlier | ||
ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1993
| ||
doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1994
On March 24 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote: On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote: On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote: On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote: On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote: wow, I'm actually surprised by that one WTF why? outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on. Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran. afaik a T has never won on outlier hasn't T been played once on outlier? Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is. hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset. still a bullshit map though i'll agree. wat TvZ elo 2182 vs ZvT elo 1931? Yeah, massive upset. | ||
ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1995
| ||
RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1996
| ||
Zona
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1997
On March 24 2012 14:47 Motivate wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote: On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote: can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier? Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit. last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn. At this point I'm pretty sure that the overarching goal for PL map design isn't balance. | ||
hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1998
On March 24 2012 14:42 ]343[ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote: On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote: wow, I'm actually surprised by that one WTF why? outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on. Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran. Terran has been sent in 5/43 games on Outlier (winning 2, both vs Z, with 0 TvT), and 4/19 times on Neo Outlier (0-4 vs Z, with 0 TvT). It is indeed a "complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran." That just means that there are maps that are better. In the same way I would start stats over myself for an ace match whatever the map, I would start flash over stats. There is a point where you just can't ignore the differnce in skill, regardless of map. | ||
N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1999
edit- for pvt discussion on outlier | ||
![]()
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50362 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2000
| ||
| ||
![]() StarCraft 2 RotterdaM StarCraft: Brood War![]() TKL ![]() SteadfastSC ![]() IndyStarCraft ![]() PiGStarcraft263 UpATreeSC ![]() MindelVK ![]() Codebar ![]() ZombieGrub34 JuggernautJason32 Calm Dota 2![]() Shuttle ![]() EffOrt ![]() Stork ![]() ggaemo ![]() Dewaltoss ![]() hero ![]() Hyuk ![]() Rush ![]() Mong ![]() [ Show more ] Counter-Strike Heroes of the Storm Other Games Grubby2535 FrodaN776 ceh9533 mouzStarbuck245 KnowMe166 Fuzer ![]() C9.Mang0106 QueenE75 Trikslyr67 rGuardiaN40 NeuroSwarm40 Organizations |
OSC
Sparkling Tuna Cup
Afreeca Starleague
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
2v2
PiGosaur Monday
LiuLi Cup
RSL Revival
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
RSL Revival
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
[ Show More ] RSL Revival
[BSL 2025] Weekly
BSL Team Wars
RSL Revival
Online Event
Wardi Open
|
|