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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1981
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too
Yhamm is the god of predictions
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1982
If this works, KT coach will be called a genius.

If it doesn't, he'll be called a fool.
pencil-leads
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore404 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1983
expected choice for khan and kt.... i supposed each other roughly guessed they will be playing each other. but stats gotta prepare for 2 maps while stork had 2 weeks to prepare for 1 map....
http://no-more-fairytales.com/scbw
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1984
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.

hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset.

still a bullshit map though i'll agree.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1985
STOOOORK!
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1986
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 2 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.


yeah that's the only t that i saw get played on that map lol
but i guess there were a few more games
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
March 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#1987
On March 24 2012 14:46 neobowman wrote:
If this works, KT coach will be called a genius.

If it doesn't, he'll be called a fool.

Welcome to the Internet.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1988
Leta past his prime?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1989
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too

thanks.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4394 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1990
POP OFF THE ROCK SHIP
Sucker for nostalgia
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1991
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too

ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit.

last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1992
Stork in blue at 12
Stats in white at 8
Neo Outlier
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1993
Didn't Stork say he dint prepare pvp? lol gets 2 pvps
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1994
On March 24 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.

hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset.

still a bullshit map though i'll agree.

wat

TvZ elo 2182 vs ZvT elo 1931?

Yeah, massive upset.
웅진 멘쓰즈
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1995
SONG BYUNG GOO
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1996
SONG BYUNG GOO!!! SONG BYUNG GOO!!! SONG BYUNG GOO!!!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1997
On March 24 2012 14:47 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too

ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit.

last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn.

At this point I'm pretty sure that the overarching goal for PL map design isn't balance.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1998
On March 24 2012 14:42 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.


Terran has been sent in 5/43 games on Outlier (winning 2, both vs Z, with 0 TvT), and 4/19 times on Neo Outlier (0-4 vs Z, with 0 TvT).

It is indeed a "complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran."


That just means that there are maps that are better. In the same way I would start stats over myself for an ace match whatever the map, I would start flash over stats. There is a point where you just can't ignore the differnce in skill, regardless of map.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:48:44
March 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#1999
you can't really vulture harass easily, I'd imagine. Toss can take the behind expansions. As well as recalls/shuttle drops if terran tries to take the back expansions.

edit- for pvt discussion on outlier
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50638 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2000
VADER WARP!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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