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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4440 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2001
Lol wtf Darth Vader
Sucker for nostalgia
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2002
Stork has position advantage
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2003
On March 24 2012 14:47 ShadeR wrote:
Didn't Stork say he dint prepare pvp? lol gets 2 pvps

That's got to be a lie.

Not preparing PvP for the ACE match?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2004
On March 24 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.

hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset.

still a bullshit map though i'll agree.


Leta is past his prime? WTF?!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2005
Should have sent Flash out, casue apart from the map and skill wise, if stat loses kt fans will undoubtingly go "THATS WHY U SHOULD HAVE SeNT FLASH" "GODS OVER MAPS" and ect ect, while if Flash loses at least its to Stork and beatly PvT player, ofc flame will still be induced i just think it will be smaller
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2006
Flash fans already lamenting, yet game barely under way.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2007
Stork scouting early, correctly
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2008
On March 24 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.

hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset.

still a bullshit map though i'll agree.


I think you mean Hoejja who is 3-22 in his last 25 ZvT going into that game against Leta who is 17-8 in TvZ and is top 5 progamer this season.
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2009
On March 24 2012 14:47 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too

ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit.

last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn.


Outlier is worse because it's impossible for T to push lol.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2010
Stork trying to place a manner pylon, can't
settles for stealing minerals instead

Stats also scouts correctly
Stats also trying to land that manner pylon?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2011
On March 24 2012 14:47 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:42 ]343[ wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.


Terran has been sent in 5/43 games on Outlier (winning 2, both vs Z, with 0 TvT), and 4/19 times on Neo Outlier (0-4 vs Z, with 0 TvT).

It is indeed a "complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran."


That just means that there are maps that are better. In the same way I would start stats over myself for an ace match whatever the map, I would start flash over stats. There is a point where you just can't ignore the differnce in skill, regardless of map.

You're talking as though Stats doesn't have a 70% winrate vs Toss this season.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2012
On March 24 2012 14:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:44 Shurayuki wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Motivate wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

pretty sure it is a complete atrocity

love the idiots who were saying how the maps were bad for toss this season


Stealth Bisu troll ♥ lol


Bisu=Dagger.

=>Stealth Dagger troll
=>Bisu is a movie prop?


I think we abandoned the SKT ->movie analogies when Hyde happened upon his unlikely power :[
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2013
Both protoss trying to manner pylon each other, epic mindgames.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2014
On March 24 2012 14:47 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:42 ]343[ wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.


Terran has been sent in 5/43 games on Outlier (winning 2, both vs Z, with 0 TvT), and 4/19 times on Neo Outlier (0-4 vs Z, with 0 TvT).

It is indeed a "complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran."


That just means that there are maps that are better. In the same way I would start stats over myself for an ace match whatever the map, I would start flash over stats. There is a point where you just can't ignore the differnce in skill, regardless of map.

The difference in skill isnt that big. Stats is really good at PvP and has a winning record vs stork. I rate Stats chances over Flash, especially seeing as Flash probably had some say on whether he thought he could beat Jangbi/stork on outlier
Yhamm is the god of predictions
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2015
On March 24 2012 14:48 Shock710 wrote:
Should have sent Flash out, casue apart from the map and skill wise, if stat loses kt fans will undoubtingly go "THATS WHY U SHOULD HAVE SeNT FLASH" "GODS OVER MAPS" and ect ect, while if Flash loses at least its to Stork and beatly PvT player, ofc flame will still be induced i just think it will be smaller


Too bad the coach's job is not to pander to the fans eh?
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2016
The Protoss music is so fucking intense and hype!
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
March 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2017
On March 24 2012 14:49 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:47 Motivate wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:46 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:45 oogieogie wrote:
can anyone describe why TvP is so bad for T on neo outlier?

Inverse ramps, hard to take a third, hard to push toss bases. Probably other stuff too

ugh did the map makers learn nothing from aztec? reverse ramps are bullshit.

last season we had aztec which was a pvp snooze fest, now we have outlier. yawn.


Outlier is worse because it's impossible for T to push lol.


Aztec was a more fun map to watch.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2012 05:50 GMT
#2018
Cores coming, 1 zealot chasing around scouting probe

Stats opts for 2nd gate, spotted
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 24 2012 05:50 GMT
#2019
Also zealot's scream is apparently "Goraeeeeeeeeeeeeee". You learn something new every day.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
March 24 2012 05:50 GMT
#2020
On March 24 2012 14:49 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:45 pylonsalad wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:43 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


hasn't T been played once on outlier?



Leta lost to Hoejja on Outlier on day 1 of CJ vs KT. Think about how much of an upset that is.

hoejja, a zerg who is playing pretty well right now versus a terran well past his prime? not that much of an upset.

still a bullshit map though i'll agree.


I think you mean Hoejja who is 3-22 in his last 25 ZvT going into that game against Leta who is 17-8 in TvZ and is top 5 progamer this season.

Pretty much. If Leta is "past his prime," then Hoejja has never had a prime. I suppose his prime could be right now. 4 game win streak
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
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