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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#1941
On March 24 2012 14:38 Motivate wrote:
what? does khan get to choose ACE map? that will always be complete bullshit unless the map pool is reasonably balanced. every ACE match post season will just be a pvp. fuck this.


they have the higher seed, so they get to choose ace map for matches 1 and 3
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Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
March 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#1942
On March 24 2012 14:38 soujiro_ wrote:
at least its not a zvz =)


Haha so true.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:41:43
March 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#1943
I kind of like this just to put some doubt in the opponent's mind of all the ace matches. They can't just practice 100% against Flash for ace anymore.

Edit: Still, in any given game, you can't get a better probability of winning than with Flash, so...
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#1944
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
March 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#1945
oh fuck.. brain zoning out :X
big_shark
Profile Joined February 2010
United States172 Posts
March 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#1946
On March 24 2012 14:38 okum wrote:
We're being denied the match we all want because of KHAN's cowardly ace map choice.

Destroying e-sports, etc.


If KT got 2nd and there was a map called Flash's "Neo Naked Flash Wonderland" you know KT would have picked it for 7th so get off the high horse.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
March 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#1947
Lol, one page of "Stats won".
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50638 Posts
March 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#1948
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

I still maintain the belief that the map favors stats more and stats is very much capable of beating stork.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
March 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#1949
Pvp SNIPE!!!

GO STATS
twitch.tv/PowerDes
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1950
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1951
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

pretty sure it is a complete atrocity

love the idiots who were saying how the maps were bad for toss this season
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1952
On March 24 2012 14:38 Motivate wrote:
what? does khan get to choose ACE map? that will always be complete bullshit unless the map pool is reasonably balanced. every ACE match post season will just be a pvp. fuck this.



They get to choose because they were a higher seed. It will be like this throughout.
fox77
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1953
SC2 player here what is wrong with map?
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1954
Most balanced map should always be the ace match.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1955
On March 24 2012 14:38 Motivate wrote:
what? does khan get to choose ACE map? that will always be complete bullshit unless the map pool is reasonably balanced. every ACE match post season will just be a pvp. fuck this.


the team in a commanding position picks the first and 3rd set ace matches
kt gets to pick the 2nd

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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1956
On March 24 2012 14:41 big_shark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 okum wrote:
We're being denied the match we all want because of KHAN's cowardly ace map choice.

Destroying e-sports, etc.


If KT got 2nd and there was a map called Flash's "Neo Naked Flash Wonderland" you know KT would have picked it for 7th so get off the high horse.

haha, I now really want to call that map by that name from now on.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#1957
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.


Terran has been sent in 5/43 games on Outlier (winning 2, both vs Z, with 0 TvT), and 4/19 times on Neo Outlier (0-4 vs Z, with 0 TvT).

It is indeed a "complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran."
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
March 24 2012 05:43 GMT
#1958
On March 24 2012 14:40 SimonB wrote:
I kind of like this just to put some doubt in the opponent's mind of all the ace matches. They can't just practice 100% against Flash for ace anymore.

Edit: Still, in any given game, you can't get a better probability of winning than with Flash, so...


As was already pointed out Khan picked the map because it was highly unlikely Flash would appear, it's really not some utter brilliance from the KT coaching team (Stats played his share of ace matches either way).
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50638 Posts
March 24 2012 05:43 GMT
#1959
On March 24 2012 14:42 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:40 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:37 hacklebeast wrote:
wow, I'm actually surprised by that one


WTF why?

outlier is not a map Flash would want to play on.


Flash is so much better than stats. It's not as if outlier is a complete atrocity of a map that is impossible for terran.

afaik a T has never won on outlier


sea beat hydra once.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 24 2012 05:43 GMT
#1960
On March 24 2012 14:39 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:38 shucklesors wrote:
this feels really weird for 3 reasons.
1. stats lost his game.
2. stork won his PvP on the same map.
3. january's supposed to be the troll.


um,
1. stats won his game
2. stats is 3-2 vs stork
3. khan chose an anti-T map



Exactly. Stats actually makes sense.
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