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Hello! Welcome one and all(Actually only C/+/- people  )
This tournament is being put on by the members of the clan sGs for the foreign Broodwar scene and it's C ranked players! The D/D- players and the D+ players have had their turn and now it's time for you C ranks players!
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Format:This tournament will feature pool play by arranging each pool as fairly as possible with the top two players in each of the pools entering into a 16 man Bo3 single elimination bracket with the winner taking home the C ranks Pride! The player will play each player in the pool once to determine his/her score.
Also, this format can change due to the amount of players that sign up
RULES!
- Standard ICCUP rules apply
- If two players are race pickers they must announce their races before joining the game.
- Players must play using the ID they used to sign up.
- Games must be played on the maps listed in the map pool
- Maps must come from the given map pack
- If a player disconnects in the first three minutes then a regame will be granted. If the same player disconnects again they will be d/q. Any disconnect after three minutes will be reviewed by sGs.Shimy and judged
- Everything is subject to administrative discretion
- An admin will be present at the time of the games to make sure everyone plays and all replays must be sent to:sGs.Shimy@gmail
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All games must be played on Iccup!
Date and Time:
Format:
FEB.2nd: A selection of Pool Play games will be casted.
Time: Starting anywhere from 1-2:00PM EST (-5 GMT)
Stream: Artanis[xp]
Rounds will be casted by sGs.L_Master and LRM)NoOne
FEB.6th: Ro16 (Bo3's) Cast @ 9:30PM EST
FEB.7th: Ro8 (Bo3's) Cast @ 6:00PM EST
FEB.12th: Ro4(Bo5's) Cast @ 9:00PM EST
FEB.19th Finals (Bo5) Cast @ 9:00PM EST
BRACKET
SEMI FINALS
Ni.Lumire vs Dysxelic
<<Jade>>
<<Destination>>
<<Tau Cross>>
<<Sniper Ridge>>
<<Outsider>>
S2Glow vs Snipin_Panda
<<Sniper Ridge>>
<<Jade>>
<<Triathlon>>
<<Electric Circuit>>
<<Tau Cross>>
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Maps for the round of 16 and on will be determined for the first game and the loser picks the next map from the listed maps below. Each player may veto one map from said map pool and declare it before any games are played in the
series.
Outsider
Tau Cross
Chain Reaction
Electric Circuit
Triathlon
Jade
Sniper Ridge
Destination
C Rank Maps
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This tournament is open to all players of a max rank of C- rank up to C+ rank!
This means that you do NOT have to currently have an account in the C ranks, but have an all time rank of C- to C+
All you need to do is state the following:
Iccup Name:
Iccup Rank:
Race:
[b]Tournament Organizers:sGs.Shimy, sGs.Cobalt, and sGs.L_Master
Casters: L_Master and LRM)NoOne
Pool Play casters: Artanis[xp] and LRM)NoOne
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Iccup Name: snipin_panda
Iccup Rank: C-
Race:T
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The maps.....
You should really make a more updated map pack :/
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On January 16 2012 13:41 Shimy wrote:All times are subject to change if the they are super bad times for 90% of the people signed up. Otherwise, just suck it up
Yep, 4am here 
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Ok, I'll alter the maps a bit >>
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Iccup Name: pjyhwaiting
Iccup Rank: C
Race: P
It's 4am for me as well..
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On January 16 2012 14:21 Lumire wrote:
The maps.....
You should really make a more updated map pack :/
Ok altered. The maps are staying the way they are now. I was trying to use different maps earlier because I wanted to encourage unusual play, but I realize that if people don't know the map they might just auto cheese. So yeah, I know I used Desti and other maps, but those are the maps that I like and the second day is a Bo3 so you can possibly make it to where one map won't be the downfall of you 
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On January 16 2012 14:40 fold wrote:
Iccup Name: pjyhwaiting
Iccup Rank: C
Race: P
It's 4am for me as well..
This is concerning me as well... I will see the rest of the people that sign up and determine if the time is still an issue
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Iccup Name: ni.lumire
Iccup Rank: C+
Race: Z
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Iccup Name: sGs.Pie
Iccup rank: C-
Race: T
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On January 16 2012 14:49 Lumire wrote:
Iccup Name: ni.lumire
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Z
Its 12:00 for me and i get out of school at 3 so....
The cast is from replays, so once I get the matches set, you can play your opponent whenever it is convenient.
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Calling it now.
snipin_panda wins the whole thing, probably over lumire or fold.
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Ok, I'm looking at a format like this:
3rd: Pool play to determine the Ro16 (Not casted)
4th: Ro16 (Bo3's Live)
5th: Ro8 (Bo3's Live)
11th: Ro4(Bo3's Live)
12th Finals (Bo5 Live)
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iccup name : S2Glow
iccup rank : C-
Race : Random
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wtf slow internet made me double post.
Sorry.
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Iccup name : -mantoss-
Rank C-
Race : Protoss
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Count me in.
Name: Probe
Rank: C
Race: TvP, TvZ, PvT
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On January 16 2012 14:57 1004 wrote:
Calling it now.
snipin_panda wins the whole thing, probably over lumire or fold.
If fold can PvP ;D
lonelyprobe--
C-
Protoss
True winner of tournament appears
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V
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not allowed to play *cries*
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ICCup: CobaltBlu
Rank: C-
Race: T
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Name : Puppykiller
Rank: C-
Race: Terran
Hmm I might not play after all, way too many terrans.
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Iccup name: Iplaythings
Rank: C (haven't played enough this season)
Race: Racepicker (all non mirrors)
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On January 16 2012 18:13 Jumperer wrote:
can I enter with my D+/C- off race?
Why would I ever NOT let Jumper play in the tournament? As long as you are a legit D+/C- with your offrace, please sign up!
Huge fan btw
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Iccup name: Cocky
Rank: C
Race: P
I'll comeback to BW just for this tourney. ^^
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Im thinking about playing in this tour, havent played BW in ~2 years now since sc2 came out.
I presume ill have to ladder an account up to C-?
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On January 17 2012 01:45 Pulimuli wrote:
Im thinking about playing in this tour, havent played BW in ~2 years now since sc2 came out.
I presume ill have to ladder an account up to C-?
It would be nice if you had some way to prove you've been C- before :D So yeah, I think you'd probably be able to get C- in the next two weeks if you mass games
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On January 17 2012 01:54 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 01:45 Pulimuli wrote:
Im thinking about playing in this tour, havent played BW in ~2 years now since sc2 came out.
I presume ill have to ladder an account up to C-? It would be nice if you had some way to prove you've been C- before :D So yeah, I think you'd probably be able to get C- in the next two weeks if you mass games
im 8-1 so far ^^
so ill get there tonight or tomorrow
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On January 17 2012 02:18 Pulimuli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 01:54 Shimy wrote:On January 17 2012 01:45 Pulimuli wrote:
Im thinking about playing in this tour, havent played BW in ~2 years now since sc2 came out.
I presume ill have to ladder an account up to C-? It would be nice if you had some way to prove you've been C- before :D So yeah, I think you'd probably be able to get C- in the next two weeks if you mass games im 8-1 so far ^^ so ill get there tonight or tomorrow
Good to hear! :D
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Iccup name: ninazerg
Rank: C-
Race: Z
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ICCup name: NoisE[AoV] , Shotcoder
Rank: C+
Race: T
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iccup: thundersapien
rank: c-
tvz, tvp, zvt
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On January 16 2012 15:52 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 14:57 1004 wrote:
Calling it now.
snipin_panda wins the whole thing, probably over lumire or fold. If fold can PvP ;D lonelyprobe-- C- Protoss True winner of tournament appears | | | | V
I've talked this over with some of the other tourney refs and admins and Metal[x] is a known B- player. It's sad that he cannot participate, but out of fairness, it has to be this way. Same with Jumperer... His gosuness can carry over to other races and could possibly not be fair to others participating. Hopefully after the C ranks open, we can get a B ranks one and have some amazing games there :D
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I will be watching!!! Epic.
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phew been playing 20 games so far and god damn even getting the scv's out of the mineral line to build a supply depot is a struggle in itself. ill never complain about the sc2 micro ever again :D forgot how freakin hard the ai was to control in this game
iccup name: BlueEyeS
C-
Terran, might random vs Terran though
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On January 17 2012 06:29 Pulimuli wrote:
phew been playing 20 games so far and god damn even getting the scv's out of the mineral line to build a supply depot is a struggle in itself. ill never complain about the sc2 micro ever again :D forgot how freakin hard the ai was to control in this game
iccup name: BlueEyeS
soon C-!
Terran, might random vs Terran though
Holy crap! Sick run! You are making it look ezpz to get C- Gl in the tourney!
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iccup name: johny23
Rank C+
Race: P/Z/T. I like to play random but if I must pick before that's fine. I will follow what ever rules I need to and call my race out before joining the game or whatever.
Please sign me up
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ICCup name: [scb]terranos
Ранг: C
Race: T
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fuck yeah C-
:D 19-4 score at that, not too shabby imo!
i think ill call it a day then ^^ achieved what i set out to do in about 24hrs
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On January 17 2012 08:18 Pulimuli wrote:
fuck yeah C-
:D 19-4 score at that, not too shabby imo!
i think ill call it a day then ^^ achieved what i set out to do in about 24hrs
No. You have to keep going. There is no proof that you aren't B-. Or A-, even. Or Olympic for that matter. How can we know you didn't just throw those 4 games in order to make it seem like you aren't a chogosu? I demand either 100 games minimum or synopsis from a Korean progamer.
xD
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On January 17 2012 09:30 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 08:18 Pulimuli wrote:
fuck yeah C-
:D 19-4 score at that, not too shabby imo!
i think ill call it a day then ^^ achieved what i set out to do in about 24hrs No. You have to keep going. There is no proof that you aren't B-. Or A-, even. Or Olympic for that matter. How can we know you didn't just throw those 4 games in order to make it seem like you aren't a chogosu? I demand either 100 games minimum or synopsis from a Korean progamer. xD
hehe well when i actually played i hit B. Pretty sure i cant go over C+ nowadays anyway. One of the dudes i beat was B+ in the previous seasons though :D he bm'd like crazy after the game which made me feel all warm and fuzzy
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On January 17 2012 10:19 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:35 Pulimuli wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Jealous wrote:On January 17 2012 08:18 Pulimuli wrote:
fuck yeah C-
:D 19-4 score at that, not too shabby imo!
i think ill call it a day then ^^ achieved what i set out to do in about 24hrs No. You have to keep going. There is no proof that you aren't B-. Or A-, even. Or Olympic for that matter. How can we know you didn't just throw those 4 games in order to make it seem like you aren't a chogosu? I demand either 100 games minimum or synopsis from a Korean progamer. xD hehe well when i actually played i hit B. Pretty sure i cant go over C+ nowadays anyway. One of the dudes i beat was B+ in the previous seasons though :D he bm'd like crazy after the game which made me feel all warm and fuzzy i'm pretty sure this tournament is for people who are historically max c-/c/c+ players, not just this season admins of the tournament please do correct me if im wrong though
@krndandaman
You are correct. This tournament is for players that have a Max in the C ranks. I'm willing to make certain exceptions for people who have been removed for quite a while. Maybe you guys should test him and play him to prove to me that he's too gosu for this tournament To make it through group stages will be hard in itself. Also, I'm going to make the groups and seedings as fair as possible. So you might not ever have to play against him
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Yes that seems fair. 100% certain i cannot hit B- as of right now, not too sure i can get C+ even
but some trial matches would be nice i think
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On January 17 2012 10:38 Pulimuli wrote:
Yes that seems fair. 100% certain i cannot hit B- as of right now, not too sure i can get C+ even
but some trial matches would be nice i think
Also, people should use it as inspiration to get better. That's what this is all about. Having fun and getting better! :D
These players could be next top foreigners with some practice. So yeah, I gave a pretty reasonable time to play and practice and it's not a one and done kind of tournament! Group stages you play 3 games and brackets are all Bo3's! So you always have chances hopefully and also makes for more interesting playing and strategies.
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Name: Drywater
Rank: C- (current) max: dunno
Race: T
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Rofl, the sheer amount of people understating their rank in this thread is fairly disgusting.
that being said, i'll sign up to get my ass kicked by one of them
name: kiante
rank: C+ (max)
race: protoss
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Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.>
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*** Everyone please vote on the time in the poll please!***
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On January 17 2012 08:18 Pulimuli wrote:
fuck yeah C-
:D 19-4 score at that, not too shabby imo!
i think ill call it a day then ^^ achieved what i set out to do in about 24hrs
I guess everyone else is being too manner to say it but dude no one cares.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Two things:
EDIT #1: Nevermind I understand now. It's only if both are race pickers.
#2 The reason C tournament will be cool is because should be a lot of strategy involved. If someone who use to be B rank 1v1 practices a little they should be able to get their mechanics back fairly easily. B mechanics in a C tourney....argh :D
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On January 17 2012 12:39 johny23 wrote:
Two things:
EDIT #1: Nevermind I understand now. It's only if both are race pickers.
#2 The reason C tournament will be cool is because should be a lot of strategy involved. If someone who use to be B rank 1v1 practices a little they should be able to get their mechanics back fairly easily. B mechanics in a C tourney....argh :D
#1 yeah. If a person has a race like terran and random, it means that they play TvP and TvZ but play RvT. If all races are listed, then that person race picks every matchup So yeah, correct.
#2 We've had this happen in the D ranks teamleague where a person was C- a couple years ago and went along with sc2 and came back recently. He understands the game more maybe, but he has lost to the D ranks as well. People who are C+ are one rank away from B-. I know it's huge to get to B-, but it's not astronomically a huge difference in mechanics. This should only make you strive harder to play better! At the end of the day, it's about fun. With the format of the tournament, one loss to someone won't take you out of the tournament, so I have chosen to allow BlueEyes to play because of his recent comeback.
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Let's me just clarify. I like to play Random sometimes but sometimes I like to race pick. If I want to I can go Random everygame right? But if I choose to pick my race one game I am still allowed to do that right? (as long as I specificy im choosing prior to joining game).
I am only clarifying because it seems theres a lot of rules that are biased against random players. So I want to make sure that I can pick random OR race pick(as long as I specificy which race prior to joining game).
This is correct right?
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On January 17 2012 12:53 johny23 wrote:
Let's me just clarify. I like to play Random sometimes but sometimes I like to race pick. If I want to I can go Random everygame right? But if I choose to pick my race one game I am still allowed to do that right? (as long as I specificy im choosing prior to joining game).
I am only clarifying because it seems theres a lot of rules that are biased against random players. So I want to make sure that I can pick random OR race pick(as long as I specificy which race prior to joining game).
This is correct right?
kevin?
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On January 17 2012 12:53 johny23 wrote:
Let's me just clarify. I like to play Random sometimes but sometimes I like to race pick. If I want to I can go Random everygame right? But if I choose to pick my race one game I am still allowed to do that right? (as long as I specificy im choosing prior to joining game).
I am only clarifying because it seems theres a lot of rules that are biased against random players. So I want to make sure that I can pick random OR race pick(as long as I specificy which race prior to joining game).
This is correct right?
This seems like it's sorta greedy I guess I'll put random next to your name also just so no one is thrown off You have to declare before the game starts what race you are playing (including random).
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On January 17 2012 12:56 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:53 johny23 wrote:
Let's me just clarify. I like to play Random sometimes but sometimes I like to race pick. If I want to I can go Random everygame right? But if I choose to pick my race one game I am still allowed to do that right? (as long as I specificy im choosing prior to joining game).
I am only clarifying because it seems theres a lot of rules that are biased against random players. So I want to make sure that I can pick random OR race pick(as long as I specificy which race prior to joining game).
This is correct right? This seems like it's sorta greedy I guess I'll put random next to your name also just so no one is thrown off You have to declare before the game starts what race you are playing (including random).
Then again, you aren't really a Random player if you are constantly picking different races So you should actually just tell me how you want to enter the tournament. Random? Or Race Picker?
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On January 17 2012 13:00 krndandaman wrote:^ wait, random as in ihavenoideawhatraceyouareuntiliscout is allowed? if so, ughhh what a pain Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:24 Kiante wrote:
Rofl, the sheer amount of people understating their rank in this thread is fairly disgusting.
that being said, i'll sign up to get my ass kicked by one of them
name: kiante
rank: C+ (max)
race: protoss
haha agreed Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.> i'm pretty sure you can use past records to indicate your max rank (i don't have an account over c- atm) hope i'm right :x though i only have to get 200 more points for c- anyways so w.e lol
#1 yes that type of Random is allowed.
#2 Kiante is correct, but what fun is it if that weren't true
#3 It is max rank of all time. If you have ever been in the C ranks you are allowed to play.
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On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.>
It's cool. I know you are C Plus like I said, it's max rank of all time kinda thing
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On January 17 2012 12:24 Kiante wrote:
Rofl, the sheer amount of people understating their rank in this thread is fairly disgusting.
that being said, i'll sign up to get my ass kicked by one of them
name: kiante
rank: C+ (max)
race: protoss
Kinda irritates me when people do this. Especially if the ones understating are truly blue ranks. It's not like there is a prize or any incentive other than smashing random yellow ranks.
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On January 17 2012 12:56 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:53 johny23 wrote:
Let's me just clarify. I like to play Random sometimes but sometimes I like to race pick. If I want to I can go Random everygame right? But if I choose to pick my race one game I am still allowed to do that right? (as long as I specificy im choosing prior to joining game).
I am only clarifying because it seems theres a lot of rules that are biased against random players. So I want to make sure that I can pick random OR race pick(as long as I specificy which race prior to joining game).
This is correct right? kevin?
you know i would only smurf into this tournament if there was a 100% chance to snipe you but since i don't make the bracket, there's no need to.
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Name : vTv.Mercurial
Rank : C-
Race : Zerg
how about the date? thats most important thing to me
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1004 are you talking about sniping me? if so why? lol
Can we clarify the rules then? Because I'd really like to be able to choose random or sometimes race pick.
For example if I am going up against someone who I think is higher then C+ rank I'd probably play random to try to get an advantage.
Can you just list all races and random and I will say what I am choosing BEFORE I even join the game?
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On January 17 2012 13:34 johny23 wrote:
1004 are you talking about sniping me? if so why? lol
Can we clarify the rules then? Because I'd really like to be able to choose random or sometimes race pick.
For example if I am going up against someone who I think is higher then C+ rank I'd probably play random to try to get an advantage.
Can you just list all races and random and I will say what I am choosing BEFORE I even join the game?
I guess... TT
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On January 17 2012 13:34 johny23 wrote:
1004 are you talking about sniping me? if so why? lol
Can we clarify the rules then? Because I'd really like to be able to choose random or sometimes race pick.
For example if I am going up against someone who I think is higher then C+ rank I'd probably play random to try to get an advantage.
Can you just list all races and random and I will say what I am choosing BEFORE I even join the game?
Ok I put random in front of your name. Just declare what you are playing before the game TT glhf
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If I can get to C- by the time the tourny starts I'll enter
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On January 17 2012 13:34 johny23 wrote:
1004 are you talking about sniping me? if so why? lol
Can we clarify the rules then? Because I'd really like to be able to choose random or sometimes race pick.
For example if I am going up against someone who I think is higher then C+ rank I'd probably play random to try to get an advantage.
Can you just list all races and random and I will say what I am choosing BEFORE I even join the game?
no i was talking to puppykiller xD
because i think puppykiller thought you were me, when he said "kevin?", because kevin is me
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May I ask that the tournament staff PLEASE get rid of Tau Cross / Outsider from the map pool, because those maps are just... yuck.
For a flat map, I think Fighting Spirit is a lot more balanced than Tau Cross, and for a three-player map, I dunno, maybe Neo Aztec?
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On January 17 2012 14:10 ninazerg wrote:
May I ask that the tournament staff PLEASE get rid of Tau Cross / Outsider from the map pool, because those maps are just... yuck.
For a flat map, I think Fighting Spirit is a lot more balanced than Tau Cross, and for a three-player map, I dunno, maybe Neo Aztec?
No. The Map pool is set in stone. Tau Cross and Outsider are fun maps :D
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EDIT: Stopped being an emo kid.
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On January 17 2012 15:35 Jealous wrote:
I withdraw my application to play in this tournament, as I have not been able to win more than a few games against C-/C players in the past two months and currently sport a beautiful 84-154 record at a low D+. Don't want to waste people's time.
Just take part There's already so few protosses.
Scariest player currently is dsyxelic or Lumire. Both of them are macro monsters.
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On January 17 2012 14:15 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 14:10 ninazerg wrote:
May I ask that the tournament staff PLEASE get rid of Tau Cross / Outsider from the map pool, because those maps are just... yuck.
For a flat map, I think Fighting Spirit is a lot more balanced than Tau Cross, and for a three-player map, I dunno, maybe Neo Aztec? No. The Map pool is set in stone. Tau Cross and Outsider are fun maps :D
+1
at least Tau Cross, its an awesome map
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Shame the time is rather bad for me, but it's a good idea and I hope it turns out good.
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On January 17 2012 13:03 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.> It's cool. I know you are C Plus like I said, it's max rank of all time kinda thing
waaait so I need to have gotten C on the account i show up with?
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On January 17 2012 22:58 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 13:03 Shimy wrote:On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.> It's cool. I know you are C Plus like I said, it's max rank of all time kinda thing waaait so I need to have gotten C on the account i show up with?
Shouldnt matter? As long as you can prove that you've gotten at least C-
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On January 17 2012 22:58 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 13:03 Shimy wrote:On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.> It's cool. I know you are C Plus like I said, it's max rank of all time kinda thing waaait so I need to have gotten C on the account i show up with?
No.
As long as your max rank falls between C- and C+ your good to go.
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On January 17 2012 15:35 Jealous wrote:
I withdraw my application to play in this tournament, as I have not been able to win more than a few games against C-/C players in the past two months and currently sport a beautiful 84-154 record at a low D+. Don't want to waste people's time.
Yes please play! It's ok man. You have made it to C- and that alone makes you good enough to play in this tournament! :D Please reconsider
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On January 17 2012 19:38 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 15:35 Jealous wrote:
I withdraw my application to play in this tournament, as I have not been able to win more than a few games against C-/C players in the past two months and currently sport a beautiful 84-154 record at a low D+. Don't want to waste people's time. Just take part There's already so few protosses.
Doesn't matter if there are so few.
Look at JinAir OSL
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I cancel my previous cancellation of application. Thank you for your support <3
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Name: sGs.Yaqoob
Rank: C-
Race: Protoss
I work during the evenings mon-fri so I can't play any games after 4:30pm during the weekdays but I'm free sat & sun
Also, I think the tourney organizers should go through the names and make sure no one is hiding their real rank or hiding that they were b- before or something
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On January 18 2012 07:08 Yaqoob wrote:
Name: sGs.Yaqoob
Rank: C-
Race: Protoss
I work during the evenings mon-fri so I can't play any games after 4:30pm during the weekdays but I'm free sat & sun
Also, I think the tourney organizers should go through the names and make sure no one is hiding their real rank or hiding that they were b- before or something
It's looking like the Tournament is gonna be going on at 7PM EST. Also, we are doing background checks on people and have made only one exception for someone who is a few years removed.
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Shimy, to be fair can we let jumper play in the tourney ? He said he's only D+/C-/C max on his offrace.
It looks like the guy you made an expection for use to be B, hes now 19-4 C- in under 24 hours and also beat someone who was B+ last season.
I don't think it's fair to ban jumper. I am not complaining at all just thinking logically it's not fair for people like jumper.
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On January 18 2012 10:27 johny23 wrote:
Shimy, to be fair can we let jumper play in the tourney ? He said he's only D+/C-/C max on his offrace.
It looks like the guy you made an expection for use to be B, hes now 19-4 C- in under 24 hours and also beat someone who was B+ last season.
I don't think it's fair to ban jumper. I am not complaining at all just thinking logically it's not fair for people like jumper.
I was gonna let this happen, but then someone else told me not to D: I plan on hosting a B tourney after this though so they can all play in it! I understand where you are coming from though. I think the argument was made that his mechanics and game knowledge would be enough for him to roll this tournament. He's so Gosu!!! I've PM'd him and I think he agrees.
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**********THE MAPS BEING USED FOR POOL PLAY ARE: Jade, Sniper Ridge, Tau Cross, and Destination.************
Practice those maps :D
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On January 18 2012 10:27 johny23 wrote:
Shimy, to be fair can we let jumper play in the tourney ? He said he's only D+/C-/C max on his offrace.
It looks like the guy you made an expection for use to be B, hes now 19-4 C- in under 24 hours and also beat someone who was B+ last season.
I don't think it's fair to ban jumper. I am not complaining at all just thinking logically it's not fair for people like jumper.
I beat a former A- 2-0, B 3-2, B- 3-0... And I am ~33% WR D+ at the moment. Who you beat doesn't really determine anything sometimes.
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*** DUE TO THE COMMENTS BEING MADE ABOUT BLUEEYES(PuliMuli)HE HAS POLITELY RESIGNED FROM THE TOURNAMENT*** Stop bringing it up! TT It's about your playing and that should be the only thing you care about. Please quit making statements like things aren't fair.
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Good choice for pool play, i would've prefered neo aztec to tau cross but others seem nice.
sounds fun, cant wait.
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Name: JustoLamas
Rank: C-
Race: Protoss
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Endy because he has 1000 apm. Gogo!
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Jade and Snipder ridge are both new mapss o not many people have played it a lot anyways =P
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On January 18 2012 00:48 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 22:58 Iplaythings wrote:On January 17 2012 13:03 Shimy wrote:On January 17 2012 12:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Name: Zergneedsfood
Rank: C (max)
Race: T
Oh wtf, I have to prove that I'm C, and I can't use past records?
Fffffuuu, time to ladder once I get back to school. >.> It's cool. I know you are C Plus like I said, it's max rank of all time kinda thing waaait so I need to have gotten C on the account i show up with? No. As long as your max rank falls between C- and C+ your good to go.
Awlright, that's pretty neat so I dont have to ladder all the way to C again, that'd be a nuisance, lol.
Well we'll see you at the tourny start then
Holy shit the guy who made the mappool is a fucking saint
triathlong and outsider? You gotta decide more mappools if nothing else cus that sure is awesome 
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Name: oxyacety
Rank: currently C- Best rank: C
Race: Protoss
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To everyone who claims I am B- and should not be in this tour, thanks for the ego boost, but I have yet to hit the blue ranks. I appreciate the concern though.
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On January 19 2012 04:39 Shotcoder wrote:
To everyone who claims I am B- and should not be in this tour, thanks for the ego boost, but I have yet to hit the blue ranks. I appreciate the concern though.
What are you waiting for then?
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On January 19 2012 04:39 Shotcoder wrote:
To everyone who claims I am B- and should not be in this tour, thanks for the ego boost, but I have yet to hit the blue ranks. I appreciate the concern though.
how can you possible
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Hey guys! I know we still have a couple weeks before signups close, but for the tournament to work the way I originally planned, we need 32 people! As of right now, we have 24! So be sure to tell all of your C ranks friends and bring on the fun! Also don't forget to practice all of the Pool play maps listed above! Once I have pools sorted out, I will determine the maps you play against your opponents from those 4 maps. So practice up! :D
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Iccup Name: SL]..AleC- (my c- stats are on yesyes)
Iccup Rank: C-
Race: T
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I'll play, will PM info. I have to dig around and remember what accounts were what rank.
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On January 20 2012 09:38 EternaLLegacy wrote:
I'll play, will PM info. I have to dig around and remember what accounts were what rank.
It's not like you have to play with that account or anything. Just as long as your max was between C- and C+ :D
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Well seeing as you are looking for people.
Name: sGs.Slugger
Rank: D+
Race: Terran
Feel free to not include me if you feel that I do not qualify.
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Iccup Name: SakuraKyouko
Iccup Rank: C (max)
Race: Zerg
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On January 20 2012 15:09 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Well seeing as you are looking for people.
Name: sGs.Slugger
Rank: D+
Race: Terran
Feel free to not include me if you feel that I do not qualify.
I really appreciate you signing up! Of course, I know you understand this is for C ranks, but if I cannot meet the 32 players I will add you! So just be sure to practice up on the maps that are in the tourney :D
P.S. L_Master is hosting a D+ tournament too btw. I don't know if you already signed up for it or not, but he hasn't forgotten about it. He's just been busy and as far as I know he still plans to have it sometime
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Iccup Name: Scary[t]
Iccup Rank: C-
Race: Terran
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On January 20 2012 15:09 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Well seeing as you are looking for people.
Name: sGs.Slugger
Rank: D+
Race: Terran
Feel free to not include me if you feel that I do not qualify.
Underdog story if this guy gets in.
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On January 21 2012 00:08 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 15:09 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Well seeing as you are looking for people.
Name: sGs.Slugger
Rank: D+
Race: Terran
Feel free to not include me if you feel that I do not qualify. I really appreciate you signing up! Of course, I know you understand this is for C ranks, but if I cannot meet the 32 players I will add you! So just be sure to practice up on the maps that are in the tourney :D P.S. L_Master is hosting a D+ tournament too btw. I don't know if you already signed up for it or not, but he hasn't forgotten about it. He's just been busy and as far as I know he still plans to have it sometime
Yeah I signed up for that too Hopefully you meet the 32 mark, I just wanted to help out :D
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Can I sign up for this for fun even though I can only play the group stages? If by some wizardry I manage to qualify I would forfeit my spot to the guy who placed next in group.
name: xxpack09
rank: C-
race: protoss
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May I ask why you won't be able to play the rest of the tourney? It would be cool if you could at least try :D I'm putting you in, but I gotta take you out if we get 32 people and you can't play the entire tourney D:
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On January 21 2012 15:49 Shimy wrote:
May I ask why you won't be able to play the rest of the tourney? It would be cool if you could at least try :D I'm putting you in, but I gotta take you out if we get 32 people and you can't play the entire tourney D:
I have a commitment on Saturday and I will not be back on time--if you get 32 people feel free to kick me out.
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Iccup Name: Kororo
Iccup Rank: C-
Race: Zerg
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kororo is 31st player I think (if I counted right). Need 1 more..
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I could participate (D+) but when is this happening? what time? If it is feb 3rd during the day then I can't participate, but I can during the evening.
Edit:
essbee
D+
Terran
I would like to give it a shot.
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On January 22 2012 10:12 Essbee wrote:
I could participate (D+) but when is this happening? what time? If it is feb 3rd during the day then I can't participate, but I can during the evening.
Edit:
essbee
D+
Terran
I would like to give it a shot.
I'm sorry, but I have to tell you the same thing as I told sGs.Slugger. If we need we don't reach the 32 players I was hoping to reach, I will add him then you. Unfortunately, it looks like we're gonna be able to reach the 32 players needed if not more D:
Don't forget about L_Master's D+ tourney!!! :D He hasn't forgotten about it so just pester him about it! Also, this won't be the only tourney I hold, for there is something in the works for after C Ranks! :D
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On January 22 2012 10:37 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 10:12 Essbee wrote:
I could participate (D+) but when is this happening? what time? If it is feb 3rd during the day then I can't participate, but I can during the evening.
Edit:
essbee
D+
Terran
I would like to give it a shot. I'm sorry, but I have to tell you the same thing as I told sGs.Slugger. If we need we don't reach the 32 players I was hoping to reach, I will add him then you. Unfortunately, it looks like we're gonna be able to reach the 32 players needed if not more D: Don't forget about L_Master's D+ tourney!!! :D He hasn't forgotten about it so just pester him about it! Also, this won't be the only tourney I hold, for there is something in the works for after C Ranks! :D
Yeah it's alright, I fully understand. I also know about L_Master's d+ tourney but it doesn't seem to start so I thought I would do this one too in the meanwhile, that's why.
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Iccup Names: Mewka, [KDV]Mewka
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Protoss
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i think that to make it more challenging. gotta have some prize. dont need to be cash but something else for example get featured in TL for 1 day etcetc.. just giving ideas lol
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If you're desperate for people i can offrace
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been a long time lurker, i think this is a great time to sign up for tl finally.
Iccup Name: crushberry
Iccup Rank: c-
Race: tvz tvp pvt
User was banned for this post.
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On January 22 2012 23:27 S2Glow wrote:
i think that to make it more challenging. gotta have some prize. dont need to be cash but something else for example get featured in TL for 1 day etcetc.. just giving ideas lol
I think if theres a prize it encourages more smurfing and account sharing, not sure if its worth it.
hmm...
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On January 23 2012 09:38 krndandaman wrote:
i think we got enough now :D
Indeed you are correct Working on pools as we speak
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***SIGNUPS FOR THE OFFICIAL POOLS ARE NOW CLOSED! WE HAVE REACHED 32 PLAYERS AND ARE CURRENTLY MAKING POOLS!***
Although, we are still accepting signups in case people don't show up. This list contains the 2 D+ players and xxpack09 so far. So continue to sign up just incase (And most likely) people don't show up :D
Thank you all so much for signing up :D I'm so pleased with the quick turnout of 32 players! Good luck and have fun!
P.S. Check the OP soon for pools and matches :D Also a detailed explanation of how it's all gonna work
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Iccup Name: dM-White
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Protoss
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On January 23 2012 11:53 dM-White wrote:
Iccup Name: dM-White
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Protoss
Due to xxpack09 saying it was ok to let him go if we got 32 players, I will allow you to play in his spot even though I just announced signups closed You just barely got in, my friend :D
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On January 23 2012 11:53 dM-White wrote:
Iccup Name: dM-White
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Protoss
you're B- like 3 seasons ago. why trying to smurf a c ranked tourney?
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On January 23 2012 12:08 Kiante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 11:53 dM-White wrote:
Iccup Name: dM-White
Iccup Rank: C
Race: Protoss you're B- like 3 seasons ago. why trying to smurf a c ranked tourney?
This is true, xxpack09 is back in as of right now. Sorry I didn't check the account before letting him signup! To dM-White, I apologize, but I can't allow you to play D: It wouldn't be fair. Don't fret though, there might be something in the works after this C Ranks Tourney
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***POOLS ARE UP IN THE OP! GO LOOK AT THEM!***
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Group F is definitely the group of death o_o;;
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On January 23 2012 14:05 ninazerg wrote:
Group F is definitely the group of death o_o;;
Should make for some great games :D
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Group H looks like the true group of death
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I predict kororo to win at least one game
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I predict:
pjywhaiting and Kororo for Pool A
ZNF and SakuraLyouko for Pool B
sGs.Pie and someone else for Pool C
ni.Lumire and Cocky for Pool D
CobaltBlu and dsylexic for Pool E
SnipinPanda and Noise[AoV] for Pool F
PuppyKiller and Oxyacety for Pool G
S2Glow and Iplaythings for Pool H are my predictions hahahaha!
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btw crunchberry is my friend and is a B-/B terran and trying to smurf to snipe a couple of his friends.
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snipinpanda will probably take out my group. someone said he was better than me. also i've barely be practicing, i expect to get done 0-3 ez
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oh and drywater will take out the tourney easy. while he hasn't achieved the rank i'd put him at even odds to beat any b- player i can think of. he certainly raped me when i was playing at my peak lol.
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Oh wow, nice picks Kiante! Also, removing crushberry and looking for a replacement! Apparently he's B rank and is trying to smurf to play Lumire and SnipinPanda TT
***LOOKING FOR REPLACEMENT!***
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On January 23 2012 15:07 Kiante wrote:
snipinpanda will probably take out my group. someone said he was better than me. also i've barely be practicing, i expect to get done 0-3 ez
Man, random hearsay is incredibly credible!
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Favorite to win the tourny?....I seriously doubt that seeing as I've been pretty inactive the past 2-3 months.
I bet Kiante and panda take our group unless I get quite a bit of divine intervention.
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On January 23 2012 15:40 Shotcoder wrote:
Favorite to win the tourny?....I seriously doubt that seeing as I've been pretty inactive the past 2-3 months.
I bet Kiante and panda take our group unless I get quite a bit of divine intervention.
trust me,i'm worse than all of you right now. i just lost to a legit D+ lololol
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Oh aw, this looks like it'd be a lot of fun. Wish this was several months back when I was still playing semi-regularly lol
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Wait, I am in the "2nd" group of death? Why's that? I've played dry and doubt it's because of me or him... Interesting though :3
And Kiante trying to play timid on us, tsk tsk
On a more related note, can we please make a rule so that random players have to declare their race at the start of the game? I know there is the racepicker rule but I playing vs a random race is just plain not a particularily fun experience and forces you to certain builds.
Especialyl for a racepicker like me who plays everydamn matchup except for mirrors, it would basically force me into matchups I never really practiced..
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I'd just like to say I can't make it Friday at 7PM, so could the people I play please schedule this at a different time? I work at that time on fridays sadly =/
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Alright, well it's time for Group F to do the impossible and have everyone get 0-3'd.
Alternatively, someone is lying.
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On January 23 2012 18:16 Snipinpanda wrote:
Alright, well it's time for Group F to do the impossible and have everyone get 0-3'd.
Alternatively, someone is lying.
says the guy i watched beat a B ranked player on stream a few hours ago.
lol
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On January 23 2012 18:19 Kiante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 18:16 Snipinpanda wrote:
Alright, well it's time for Group F to do the impossible and have everyone get 0-3'd.
Alternatively, someone is lying. says the guy i watched beat a B ranked player on stream a few hours ago. lol
That's his offrace man, no count.
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implying people who main terran dont have equal or better quality protoss.
lol.
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lol I'm with Yaqoob, SCC-AlwaysGG vs SCC-Toss LETS DO ITT
Guys in my group pm me so we can setup when to play
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SakuraKyouko here, to my opponents:
7pm EST is a little early for me but I will be on a few hours after this and onwards for most of the days, is that OK?
You can find me at op teamliquid during then
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On January 23 2012 15:09 Kiante wrote:
oh and drywater will take out the tourney easy. while he hasn't achieved the rank i'd put him at even odds to beat any b- player i can think of. he certainly raped me when i was playing at my peak lol.
In pressure situations, Wala just underperforms all the time. =___=x It's frustrating when we try to play seriously.
But I agree, Wala is da good player.
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why pool H is pool of death? :O T_T someone enlighten me
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If someone doesn't show I'd like to step in:
Iccup Name: ProfProtoss
Iccup Rank: currently C-
Race: ZvP PvZ ZvT
:-)
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On January 23 2012 23:07 Prof. Protoss wrote:
If someone doesn't show I'd like to step in:
Iccup Name: ProfProtoss
Iccup Rank: currently C-
Race: ZvP PvZ ZvT
:-)
Thank you. We had someone smurfing in, so it looks like you take his spot! :D Congratz!
You are now in Pool C
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On January 24 2012 01:05 Mewka wrote:
so RO32 bo1 ?
You play everyone in your pool once, yes. But that's 3 games haha If you win 2 of the 3 games you make it through to the Ro16 where that's bo3.
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On January 23 2012 18:29 Kiante wrote:
implying people who main terran dont have equal or better quality protoss.
lol.
As a Terran I am flattered, on a side note though:
Happy birthday Kiante
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Shouldn't the race-pickers post their desired matchups here, and only if both players have conflicting matchups decide before start of the game?
Happy Birthday Kiante; also I lost about 10 games in the C- level.
EDIT: Also s2glow, are you [S2]Glow?
EIDT 2: Happy birthday to you too Sayle.
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lol i am S2Glow , not in any clan :D S2 = heart , Glow = my girlfriend ign. so that explain lol
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On January 24 2012 03:17 S2Glow wrote:
lol i am S2Glow , not in any clan :D S2 = heart , Glow = my girlfriend ign. so that explain lol
Can you explain to me how S2 is a heart? I've heard it before, but I still don't understand...
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On January 24 2012 03:20 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 03:17 S2Glow wrote:
lol i am S2Glow , not in any clan :D S2 = heart , Glow = my girlfriend ign. so that explain lol Can you explain to me how S2 is a heart? I've heard it before, but I still don't understand...
Think of a heart with an underline.
I was wondering if you worked for s2 games Glow.
And it's true my vessel management needs work...
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On January 23 2012 18:29 Kiante wrote:
implying people who main terran dont have equal or better quality protoss.
lol.
Uh well, puppykiller has beaten his protoss too, multiple time. Just sayin'
On January 24 2012 03:20 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 03:17 S2Glow wrote:
lol i am S2Glow , not in any clan :D S2 = heart , Glow = my girlfriend ign. so that explain lol Can you explain to me how S2 is a heart? I've heard it before, but I still don't understand...
Hmm, I didn't see it before, but try ignoring the bottom line of the 2 and the tail end of the S. So basically the top curvy parts of both characters.
On January 24 2012 03:42 Lumire wrote:I heard wala plays like a homo. + Show Spoiler +
Don't blame me, blame harem.
On a side note, Kiante and Sayle have the same birthday?!
Happy birthday to both of you!
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On January 24 2012 04:18 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Bleh.
Luck terran. Lucky noob terran.
No, but really, good luck ^^
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I should be able to play anytime on Sunday or anytime next week mon-fri after 11pm est. Just PM me.
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I predict fold_ or ni.lumire to win it all.
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I can't ZvT so im probably just going to take as many protoss down with me as i can before i hit a decent terran.
I think SL]..AleC- will probably win, maybe puppykiller or snipin_panda aswell.
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Okay everyone, your predictions of fold/puppykiller/whoever else are wrong, let me show you why (SunCow taught me):
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/terran-small.gif) Snipinpanda Seems decent strong
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/protoss-small.gif) pjyhwaiting I'm winning
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/zerg-small.gif) ni.lumire ZvP player so imba strong
sGs.Pie Don't know him
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/random-small.gif) S2Glow Name is Korean-sounding, probably strong
-mantoss- Don't know him
, Probe Strong macro poor decision making, we're even
lonelyprobe-- That's me
CobaltBlu Don't know him
Puppykiller I'm winning
, dsyxelic Don't know him
, , Iplaythings Don't know him
Cocky Don't know him
Ninazerg Don't know him/her, Z>P tho
Noise[AoV] I'm winning
, Thundersapien Don't know him
Johny23 Don't know him, but R player cheese strong
[SCB]Terranos Sound scary, strong
Drywater Saw replay, weak
Kiante I'm winning, dodge
Zergneedsfood Cheeser, therefore strong
vTv.Mercurial Sound scary, strong
sGs.Yaqoob Sound strong
JustoLamas Don't know him
oxyacety Don't know him
SL]..AleC- Heard strong, need proof
SakuraKyouko Zerg, must be cheese strong
Scary[t] Terran named 'Scary', prob weak
xxpack09 Don't know him
Kororo I'm winning
[KDV]Mewka Don't u play SSBM?
Anyone who I don't know much be not strong, therefore you see I am strong against many player here listed, I have strong chance to win ^^; Support me thnx fans.
Btw can ne1 buy me pack of cigarette? Newport pls.
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When have I ever cheesed? LOL
Maybe I cheese because I'm Terran lol
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who is vTv.Mercurial? 18-1 C-, currently 5-0 1v1 and is in vTv clan. Sorry if I missed something just curious
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iccup.supreme is 0-0-0 all seasons. What's his C-/C/C+ rank name is my question.
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S2 , minus the bottom S curvy and bottom line for the 2. form a heart haha.. snipin is correct ^_^!
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I wish that I was in the same group as lonelyprobe so that I could take a poop in his mouth
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It was a joke man I am worst in the tourney ); nopoop!
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I'll take a poop in his friends mouth instead.
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On January 24 2012 13:04 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 12:52 johny23 wrote:
iccup.supreme is 0-0-0 all seasons. What's his C-/C/C+ rank name is my question. vtv.Mercurial is his account with C- (past season). dont really get what more you're asking for.
(1) Do you really think someone who is 18-1 around 3350 points is C- max rank(which he said he is)
(2) Do you really think scan let someone in vTv who is C- max rank(1v1 with no decent rank 2v2 account)
(3) What are the odds the person has no other aka and if he does have an aka why is he smurfing?
It makes no sense why you would say you don't get what I am asking. It doesn't take much critical thinking to see something seems fishy.
EDIT: Not to mention scan has been to known to smurf
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So race-pickers... post your matchups?
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On January 24 2012 22:18 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:04 krndandaman wrote:On January 24 2012 12:52 johny23 wrote:
iccup.supreme is 0-0-0 all seasons. What's his C-/C/C+ rank name is my question. vtv.Mercurial is his account with C- (past season). dont really get what more you're asking for. (2) Do you really think scan let someone in vTv who is C- max rank(1v1 with no decent rank 2v2 account)
vTv.ZuCrow is 34-25 D+, vTv.Roia is 7-5 D.
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Mercurial and Zucrow are both managers for vTv.
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On January 24 2012 22:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:
So race-pickers... post your matchups?
TvZ TvP ZvT ZvP PvT PvZ
Add to OP
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This is going to be very interresting to follow... Im cheering for Cobalt since he´s awesome
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On January 24 2012 15:52 puppykiller wrote:
I wish that I was in the same group as lonelyprobe so that I could take a poop in his mouth
LOLOLOLOL, wth?
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On January 24 2012 22:18 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:04 krndandaman wrote:On January 24 2012 12:52 johny23 wrote:
iccup.supreme is 0-0-0 all seasons. What's his C-/C/C+ rank name is my question. vtv.Mercurial is his account with C- (past season). dont really get what more you're asking for. (1) Do you really think someone who is 18-1 around 3350 points is C- max rank(which he said he is) (2) Do you really think scan let someone in vTv who is C- max rank(1v1 with no decent rank 2v2 account) (3) What are the odds the person has no other aka and if he does have an aka why is he smurfing? It makes no sense why you would say you don't get what I am asking. It doesn't take much critical thinking to see something seems fishy. EDIT: Not to mention scan has been to known to smurf
Yeah, just like shotcoder a.k.a.Noise[AoV], vTv.Mericurial is a manager. Also, he's not even in your group. Just don't worry about it. He has the sickest group and if he makes it out, he deserves it.
I don't think Scan would smurf into this And I don't think Scan would have a loss on his record haha
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lol is normal 22-22 record on D+ in smurf too cause in iccup theres alot of smurf =.=
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hi guys, it's me scan.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +btw is this tourney going to have a list for people who still wants to play but didn't sign up in time? (taking spots for people who don't show up/on time)
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On January 25 2012 03:02 ZuCrow wrote:hi guys, it's me scan. + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +btw is this tourney going to have a list for people who still wants to play but didn't sign up in time? (taking spots for people who don't show up/on time)
@spoiler #1 LOL
@spoiler #2 I am keeping a list. It's not in the OP though.
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On January 25 2012 00:50 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 22:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:
So race-pickers... post your matchups? TvZ TvP ZvT ZvP PvT PvZ Add to OP
what the hell does that even mean
suppose I was to pick protoss, what race would you then pick?
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On January 25 2012 06:08 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 00:50 Iplaythings wrote:On January 24 2012 22:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:
So race-pickers... post your matchups? TvZ TvP ZvT ZvP PvT PvZ Add to OP what the hell does that even mean suppose I was to pick protoss, what race would you then pick?
Well if it's a Tuesday and your name starts with A to R then he picks T. If he's wearing socks, that's a different story...
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Ok, looks like I've been proven wrong.
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On January 24 2012 11:47 Jealous wrote:Okay everyone, your predictions of fold/puppykiller/whoever else are wrong, let me show you why (SunCow taught me): Snipinpanda Seems decent strong pjyhwaiting I'm winning ni.lumire ZvP player so imba strong sGs.Pie Don't know him S2Glow Name is Korean-sounding, probably strong -mantoss- Don't know him , Probe Strong macro poor decision making, we're even lonelyprobe-- That's me CobaltBlu Don't know him Puppykiller I'm winning, dsyxelic Don't know him, , Iplaythings Don't know him Cocky Don't know him Ninazerg Don't know him/her, Z>P tho Noise[AoV] I'm winning, Thundersapien Don't know him Johny23 Don't know him, but R player cheese strong [SCB]Terranos Sound scary, strong Drywater Saw replay, weak Kiante I'm winning, dodge Zergneedsfood Cheeser, therefore strong vTv.Mercurial Sound scary, strong sGs.Yaqoob Sound strong JustoLamas Don't know him oxyacety Don't know him SL]..AleC- Heard strong, need proof SakuraKyouko Zerg, must be cheese strong Scary[t] Terran named 'Scary', prob weak xxpack09 Don't know him Kororo I'm winning [KDV]Mewka Don't u play SSBM? Anyone who I don't know much be not strong, therefore you see I am strong against many player here listed, I have strong chance to win ^^; Support me thnx fans. Btw can ne1 buy me pack of cigarette? Newport pls.
Like.
Here's mine:
Snipinpanda He seems about average, but his mid/late game macro versus Zerg gives me confidence. m&m are hard to macro, so yeah.
pjyhwaiting Probably the best Protoss in the tour
ni.lumire He talked smack about me in Fold's stream chat, so grr. One the better players in this tour, but I think he could get knocked out by a strong Terran
sGs.Pie When I smurfed into sGs, I played Pie a few times, and I feel pretty confident against him.
S2Glow Very dangerous, do not want to play against
-mantoss- I have to play him in the first round on Destination, which I'm kind of leary about.
, Probe I would probably need to go into the late late late game to beat Probe
lonelyprobe-- I don't know much about you
CobaltBlu He is my very first match on Jade, which is a good map for me. Because of my time in sGs, I feel very confident about this match
Puppykiller Another innocent victim of Eywa's retarded proxies, but his mid-game looks really strong, so I give him the edge over me
, dsyxelic I've heard he was good, but I also heard he was out of practice? I dunno - I've been playing a lot of games on Tau Cross so I hope that pays off.
, , Iplaythings I know nothing about him.
Cocky I heard he was a smurf who is really good, so I half-expect him to emerge from the group of death
Ninazerg Terrible
Noise[AoV] Reputed to be the strongest in the tour BUT, I only played him once on the ladder and I won, so that fact combined with his apparent struggles with ZvT, I think I might be able to pull a surprise win.
, Thundersapien I know nothing.
Johny23 Never saw him ever.
[SCB]Terranos I'm not really worried about any Terran except for Puppykiller and Noise
Drywater I win 100%
Kiante Kiante will pulverize me, and then throw my ashes into a volcano.
Zergneedsfood I heard he likes to cheese, so it really just depends on the map. I think I can take him if I don't completely choke.
vTv.Mercurial I should be able to beat him
sGs.Yaqoob The sGs tag suggests to me that he's not that good
JustoLamas I think I recall him beating me in a ladder game...
oxyacety Don't know him
SL]..AleC- Did I say I was only afraid of Puppykiller and Noise. AleC- haunts my darkest nightmares.
SakuraKyouko Dunno him.
Scary[t] Not worried at all
xxpack09 Sorry, xxpack09, but I'm not worried about playing you
Kororo guaranteed loss, I hope someone knocks him out of the tour
[KDV]Mewka I fear any Protoss from the Commonwealth of Independent States
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Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it.
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On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it.
I think this is a really awesome idea if you can get the full brackets from the OP.
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On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it.
Lum dodges zvz though so he isn't a pure zerg.
Clearly, he's a bastard zerg. Impure heathen ;;
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On January 25 2012 09:02 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it. Lum dodges zvz though so he isn't a pure zerg. Clearly, he's a bastard zerg. Impure heathen ;;
Dropped from my cheerlist then.. Thank you almighty hammer.
Nina make out of pool play so I can root for a fellow STX fan!!!
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On January 25 2012 09:02 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it. Lum dodges zvz though so he isn't a pure zerg. Clearly, he's a bastard zerg. Impure heathen ;;
Hey man I've been learning it!
Such a gay match-up though...
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Yeah wtf is with people saying I cheese. -_-
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On January 25 2012 09:08 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 09:02 Harem wrote:On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it. Lum dodges zvz though so he isn't a pure zerg. Clearly, he's a bastard zerg. Impure heathen ;; Hey man I've been learning it! Such a gay match-up though...
ZVZ is my favorite matchup. Such a rush. So hard to find on ICCup though.
12 Pool is the optimal build IMO.
Also, it would be sosososososososososo awesome if somebody could cast group F. I could do it, but my latency's a little bad for streaming..
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On January 25 2012 09:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yeah wtf is with people saying I cheese. -_-
4 POOL TO THE FINALLSSSSSSSSSSSS
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On January 25 2012 09:12 TheShimmy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 09:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yeah wtf is with people saying I cheese. -_- 14 POOLCC TO THE FINALLSSSSSSSSSSSS
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On January 25 2012 09:14 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 09:12 TheShimmy wrote:On January 25 2012 09:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yeah wtf is with people saying I cheese. -_- 14 POOLCC TO THE FINALLSSSSSSSSSSSS
14 POOLCC BUNKER RUSH TO THE FINALLSSSSSSSSSSSS
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My Turn!
Snipinpanda Strong play, weak confidence
pjyhwaiting I plan to abuse his aussie time zone
ni.lumire I've already played atleast 300 games vs already, prolly gonna toss vs him and 9/9 gate
sGs.Pie if he beats me im unmodding him from my stream
S2Glow Beat me on ladder, I'll ask bibiane to play for me
-mantoss- I take offense to his name, thus I will prolly bbs him
, Probe I plan to gas steal him and build depots in his mineral line
lonelyprobe-- nopoop? nopoop????? Oh hohoho! There will bepoop!
CobaltBlu don't know him, gonna punch him in the face
Puppykiller reformed animal killer, now puppyKLR (Kiss, Lather, Rinse)
, dsyxelic relya gauff playner!
, , Iplaythings Idotoobutiassumeditwasobvioussoididntbothertonotifyyou
Cocky depends on manonmantoss builds (gas steal, proxies)
Ninazerg puppykillher
Noise[AoV] shitboner
, Thundersapien I dont know him, I hope he falls into a volcano
Johny23 Im sorry but this guy made his account on the day the tourney was announced lol, i think i found scan
[SCB]Terranos Nothing scarier then a Mexican Terran Dinosaur
Drywater Why does everyone thinks this guy is bad?
Kiante Why does anyone think this guy is good?
Zergneedsfood nerdeatspooh
vTv.Mercurial +1 5 rax > zerg players
sGs.Yaqoob dont know him... I hope he gets eaten by a bear
JustoLamas That picture of the stasis on the ramp offends me... im gonna bbs him
oxyacety I think he named himself after his acne medication?
SL]..AleC- Uh... he's basically me
SakuraKyouko weeaboo
Scary[t] honestly im more scared of someone with the name johny23
xxpack09 5 foot tall toss player from uganda, probably doesn't have any tricks up his sleeve considering that he doesn't own a shirt xD xD xD
Kororo kororororororollloveranddie
[KDV]Mewka don't know who you are.... oooh baby imma open you like a can of beans, peel you like a tangerine, smoke you like salmon meat .... (etc)
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On January 25 2012 09:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yeah wtf is with people saying I cheese. -_-
ohohoho, we see through your silly mind games, you dirty dirty cheeser
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On January 25 2012 10:16 puppykiller wrote:My Turn! + Show Spoiler + Snipinpanda Strong play, weak confidence pjyhwaiting I plan to abuse his aussie time zone ni.lumire I've already played atleast 300 games vs already, prolly gonna toss vs him and 9/9 gate sGs.Pie if he beats me im unmodding him from my stream S2Glow Beat me on ladder, I'll ask bibiane to play for me -mantoss- I take offense to his name, thus I will prolly bbs him , Probe I plan to gas steal him and build depots in his mineral line lonelyprobe-- nopoop? nopoop????? Oh hohoho! There will bepoop! CobaltBlu don't know him, gonna punch him in the face Puppykiller reformed animal killer, now puppyKLR (Kiss, Lather, Rinse), dsyxelic relya gauff playner! , , Iplaythings Idotoobutiassumeditwasobvioussoididntbothertonotifyyou Cocky depends on manonmantoss builds (gas steal, proxies) Ninazerg puppykillher Noise[AoV] shitboner, Thundersapien I dont know him, I hope he falls into a volcano Johny23 Im sorry but this guy made his account on the day the tourney was announced lol, i think i found scan [SCB]Terranos Nothing scarier then a Mexican Terran Dinosaur Drywater Why does everyone thinks this guy is bad? Kiante Why does anyone think this guy is good? Zergneedsfood nerdeatspooh vTv.Mercurial +1 5 rax > zerg players sGs.Yaqoob dont know him... I hope he gets eaten by a bear JustoLamas That picture of the stasis on the ramp offends me... im gonna bbs him oxyacety I think he named himself after his acne medication? SL]..AleC- Uh... he's basically me SakuraKyouko weeaboo Scary[t] honestly im more scared of someone with the name johny23 xxpack09 5 foot tall toss player from uganda, probably doesn't have any tricks up his sleeve considering that he doesn't own a shirt xD xD xD Kororo kororororororollloveranddie [KDV]Mewka don't know who you are.... oooh baby imma open you like a can of beans, peel you like a tangerine, smoke you like salmon meat .... (etc)
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=49345
Since you insisted on this poo talk, I must confess that I expect to defecate profusely in your facial orifices.
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ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD
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Oh what are rules about "bm" in game? I feel no point doing it here, but in game while smashing people who can't even properly scout competition a few words of wisdom maybe 
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On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD
I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD
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On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD
I really hope you get out of your group and have to play puppykiller.
That will be fun
Btw obs was making fun of you not puppykiller.
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On January 25 2012 12:42 krndandaman wrote:
whats relya gauff playner supposed to mean? o.o
lol yea caffeine is underrated
hes not the favorite in the tourny but hes definitely not someone to roll over and die easily
o and lumire = john_the_khan?
:p u were so bm on ladder
oh yeah, didnt realized i just revealed my smurf.
John_the_Khan was supposed to be my secret bm smurf account. (if that makes sense)
My main accounts are ni.lumire and yellowbench.
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On January 24 2012 11:47 Jealous wrote: ni.lumire ZvP player so imba strong
Lol. I said that "lurker contain is ez all you have to do is kill obs until devourer" and I opened 1 base tech because I forgot to place pylon at my natural. If it makes you proud to beat someone as bad as me, good work! Although, I fail to see how you're relevant to what I was saying in response to puppykiller... So... ??
EDIT: Oh, you're yellowbench? You're good. Although, still not relevant to me vs. puppykiller. I hope I meet him out of my group too.
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On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD
telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps?
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On January 25 2012 12:42 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD I really hope you get out of your group and have to play puppykiller. That will be fun Btw obs was making fun of you not puppykiller.
Btw I was referring to when obs said exactly what build I was doing to all in game. Also, I was clearly being facetious when I said "just build many tank" ... --;
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On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps?
Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games.
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On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games.
dodge
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On January 25 2012 12:58 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games. dodge
If you make it out of your group, I'll play you then.
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On January 25 2012 13:02 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:58 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games. dodge If you make it out of your group, I'll play you then.
just play him
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On January 25 2012 13:04 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 13:02 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:58 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games. dodge If you make it out of your group, I'll play you then. just play him
Already did.
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oh ho ho ho this situation seems oh so familiar.
to recap:
puppykiller lost to someone, calls his bad
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lol.
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On January 25 2012 13:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 13:04 1004 wrote:On January 25 2012 13:02 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:58 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games. dodge If you make it out of your group, I'll play you then. just play him Already did.
play him again
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LOL, I love the trash talk! This is gonna be so sick if you guys make it to Ro16
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On January 25 2012 12:34 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Oh what are rules about "bm" in game? I feel no point doing it here, but in game while smashing people who can't even properly scout competition a few words of wisdom maybe
I don't really plan on enforcing it, but you didn't hear this from me...
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On January 25 2012 12:42 krndandaman wrote:
whats relya gauff playner supposed to mean? o.o
lol yea caffeine is underrated
hes not the favorite in the tourny but hes definitely not someone to roll over and die easily
o and lumire = john_the_khan?
:p u were so bm on ladder
I did post an alt but still it's funny how many people are projecting...'not so good' players to go far, lol.
Honestly the only people I'm watching for are you noise and cocky. If your rusty I might be able to squeeze you ;p if noise struggles tvt like marine[aov] did then I think I got it and cocky is gonna be a straight loss lol.
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Hi , anybody need v z training partner? i am on now ( which is 30min till my break over ) ( 4 hour later i will reach home and stream and practice ). F > P and T training partner on jade and tau cross. if you are able to make it, pm me or drop a message on here. :D
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On January 25 2012 13:36 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 13:11 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 13:04 1004 wrote:On January 25 2012 13:02 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:58 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 12:51 puppykiller wrote:On January 25 2012 12:36 Jealous wrote:On January 25 2012 11:13 puppykiller wrote:
ya... shoulda just walled my third. You do realize that this replay makes you look pretty terrible right xD I never said I wasn't. It seems you're a bit more terrible than me though. What, with the obs telling you what to do and such xD telling me what to do? for one pk and noone don't know shit about terran vs protoss... two, they were just spamming some retarded nonsense in all chat during the first 5 mins of the game. How about we play some games right now so that i can upload some fresh reps? Wow, so mad. Why not just send me a 2 base 8 fac all-in bot to practice against instead? I'm sure I'll lose a few games. dodge If you make it out of your group, I'll play you then. just play him Already did. play him again
Fine. Tell him: channel "puppykillerisanoob" on ICCup in 5 minutes.
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This is gonna be bare knuckle brutality.
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On January 25 2012 14:46 TheShimmy wrote:
This is gonna be bare knuckle brutality.
No, look guys, he doesn't want to play when I want to play! What a dodger!!! DISHONOR
^^;
Someone named LeaGer came instead lol~
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um im in the channel... where are u?
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Wait i thought you played PvZ/ZvP/ZvT? you play PvT instead?
Smart man
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I dodge zvz on ladder so thats not a bad idea >_>.
i wanted to ZvP/PvT/PvZ but im too lazy to learn the other matchups
gj on managing to follow through.
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ggs wp puppy. Enjoy your 'fresh rep pack!'
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tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD
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On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD
I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha
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On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha
It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..)
You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups
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Hmm....well since my computer hard drive broke, now I have re-install all this stuff. -_-x
Siggghhhhh
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On January 26 2012 08:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Hmm....well since my computer hard drive broke, now I have re-install all this stuff. -_-x
Siggghhhhh
It's what you get for being a dirty dirty cheeser.
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On January 23 2012 17:40 Shotcoder wrote:
I'd just like to say I can't make it Friday at 7PM, so could the people I play please schedule this at a different time? I work at that time on fridays sadly =/
Kiante, Panda, and Mercurial? Please?
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On January 16 2012 13:41 Shimy wrote:Hello! We've had 32 players sign up and have made the pools!
Now, allow me to explain how they work:
Each player in the pool will play the map and opponent listed in their pool. That means they play a total of 3 games. After you have played your 3 games, you send the replays in a file to the email: sGs.Shimy@gmail
This is required of everyone.
Now, you may be saying to yourself, "Man the time sucks for this. Having to play at 7PM EST!" I realize this and am allowing pool play games to be played from Jan 29th to Feb 3rd. This means you have 6 days to find the opponents you are supposed to play and play them on the maps specified below. If it has been a few days and you haven't gotten in touch or been able to play the person you are supposed to play, PM me on TL and let me know. Not playing pool play will result in DQ. Also, I realize some players are going to have to play the same map twice in Pool Play. This was on purpose so don't make mention of it.
I'm not sure if you read that or not.
But feel free to catch me if I'm streaming or on iccup(though may be afk). I'll usually be on from 7:00 pm EST to like 2-4 AM EST
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Yeah, like Panda posted above, Pool play games can be played anytime from the 29th to the 3rd! I'll still be there on Friday though for those of you who haven't played their Pool Play games. And this goes to everybody: Do not send me an email with 1 or 2 games. I want all 3 games of your Pool! Thank you :D
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On January 27 2012 01:41 Shimy wrote:
Yeah, like Panda posted above, Pool play games can be played anytime from the 29th to the 3rd! I'll still be there on Friday though for those of you who haven't played their Pool Play games. And this goes to everybody: Do not send me an email with 1 or 2 games. I want all 3 games of your Pool! Thank you :D
Would you be upset if I sent you four games?
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On January 27 2012 04:11 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 01:41 Shimy wrote:
Yeah, like Panda posted above, Pool play games can be played anytime from the 29th to the 3rd! I'll still be there on Friday though for those of you who haven't played their Pool Play games. And this goes to everybody: Do not send me an email with 1 or 2 games. I want all 3 games of your Pool! Thank you :D Would you be upset if I sent you four games?
Sending 4 replays results in an automatic DQ Don't even ask what happens if you send 5 replays :D
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I'm just going to say that the amount of people in this tournament that don't know Yaqoob is surprising
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I'll just follow directions and play anyone from my group starting on the 29th.
Until then...
*devises strategies on a smurf distant mountain*
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On January 27 2012 04:48 Nikon wrote:I'm just going to say that the amount of people in this tournament that don't know Yaqoob is surprising
I'm nobody lol. Btw how do you know me :D
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On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups
yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face.
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On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face.
I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny.
I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose..
edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then
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On January 27 2012 06:53 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face. I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny. I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose.. edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then
If you want to play random, play random :D
TvZ,TvP,ZvP,ZvT, PvT, and PvZ isn't random :D
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On January 27 2012 05:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'll just follow directions and play anyone from my group starting on the 29th.
Until then...
*devises strategies on a smurf distant mountain*
and by strategies, you mean cheese.
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On January 27 2012 06:53 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face. I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny. I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose.. edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then
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I honestly don't understand people complaining about having to prepare for two different races. If he was a random player they'd have to prepare for three different races. What is wrong with people... people should be able to play whatever race or match up they want.
EDIT: Can we change tourney rules so all players must play terran only? I don't feel like preparing for all three races.
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On January 27 2012 07:28 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 06:53 Iplaythings wrote:On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face. I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny. I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose.. edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then __________________________________________________________________________________ I honestly don't understand people complaining about having to prepare for two different races. If he was a random player they'd have to prepare for three different races. What is wrong with people... people should be able to play whatever race or match up they want. EDIT: Can we change tourney rules so all players must play terran only? I don't feel like preparing for all three races.
ZvZ please. All TvT would be too much casting.
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On January 27 2012 07:28 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 06:53 Iplaythings wrote:On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face. I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny. I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose.. edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then __________________________________________________________________________________ I honestly don't understand people complaining about having to prepare for two different races. If he was a random player they'd have to prepare for three different races. What is wrong with people... people should be able to play whatever race or match up they want. EDIT: Can we change tourney rules so all players must play terran only? I don't feel like preparing for all three races.
It's because certain people like making map and race specific builds and if they are preparing to play you as Terran on Destination and you just decide to play a different race, then why would they have spent so much time working on that build to snipe you? The whole reason why I announced the Pools and maps and stuff is so people can actually practice specific things to show good games. I thought it was a good idea.
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On January 27 2012 07:28 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 06:53 Iplaythings wrote:On January 27 2012 05:48 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 26 2012 06:30 Iplaythings wrote:On January 26 2012 01:57 Shimy wrote:On January 25 2012 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
tsk you just had to put a "LOL" at the place where you posted my matchups hahaha xD I felt it was necessary If you could explain when you play which matchups, that would help the people in your group :D Because it's sorta like PvT and then another time it's ZvT haha It depends on the map, what I feel like "works" for me on one day might not on another.. (some days I suck at terran and can't do anything right etc..) You can make people think me of a player who would random if I could avoid mirror matchups yo this still doesn't explain anything. can you just tell us what race you play vs each race? It seems unfair if I have to prepare for 2 different matchups but you already know what race you're gonna face. I PM'ed shimy about it, I'm gonna be ZvT'ing, ZvP'ing and PvZ'ing only for this tourny. I can't say I'm happy about it since I love the variety, but whatever I suppose.. edit: I might be childish now but please do make the same damn rule for random players too then __________________________________________________________________________________ I honestly don't understand people complaining about having to prepare for two different races. If he was a random player they'd have to prepare for three different races. What is wrong with people... people should be able to play whatever race or match up they want. EDIT: Can we change tourney rules so all players must play terran only? I don't feel like preparing for all three races.
racepicking is not the same as randoming. If there is a random player vs a terran then both players have to do equal amount of work preparing for 3 possible matchups. If its a terran player vs someone who can pick from 2 different races then the terran has to prepare for 2 different possible matchups but then racepicker only has to practice one. The problem isn't the amount of preparation if both players have to prepare the same amount. It becomes a problem when one player has to prepare more than the other player.
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Yes, but I asked in in this thread if you look back a few pages if I could pick a certain race vs some players as long as I announced it before entering the game.
Now this has changed and isn't allowed?
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So if I say what match ups I am playing does that mean that I cannot ever random? Phrased differently if I random that means I can never choose a race if I may need to vs a certain player?
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On January 27 2012 07:56 johny23 wrote:
So I am punished because I am able to play all three races and may want to choose a different race vs other people depending on their play style?
If someone can play all three races that's a BONUS for them. Forcing someone to pick match ups takes all that away. You guys must be democrats :D
LOL, I'm gonna have to send you the same PM I sent Iplaythings. You can race pick 3 matchups, but you can't just decide the day of! That's stupid LOL Just declare your 3 races or play random. I put you down as random because I thought you were going to play random. If you aren't, tell me your vP,vZ, and vT
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So if I tell you PvP and ZvZ and the other people play ZvP and PvZ(some in this tourney do) you're then going to do what?
Make me play their match up or make them play mine?
EDIT: Just making sure I understand the rules before I tell you. Because I thought in ISL there was a race picker who picked three different races in a bo5 vs Ace no?
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I didn't realize until it was mentioned just now, but I should mention this so that it's fair to my pool mates. I'll always play as terran, except I ZvT instead of TvT. Good luck everyone.
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On January 27 2012 08:03 johny23 wrote:
So if I tell you PvP and ZvZ and the other people play ZvP and PvZ(some in this tourney do) you're then going to do what?
Make me play their match up or make them play mine?
EDIT: Just making sure I understand the rules before I tell you. Because I thought in ISL there was a race picker who picked three different races in a bo5 vs Ace no?
As quoted by one of our admins, "Nothing impedes you from PMing before hand to figure things out."
And from another admin: "This is why KeSpa doesn't allow racepicking, you figure it out."
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On January 27 2012 08:43 djcube wrote:
I didn't realize until it was mentioned just now, but I should mention this so that it's fair to my pool mates. I'll always play as terran, except I ZvT instead of TvT. Good luck everyone.
I put you as T and then Z. I figured people would know that you didn't TvT. No one does haha
THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE WITH ANOTHER RACE BY THEIR NAME. IT'S THEIR NON-MIRROR RACE
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I'm not scan
and i'm C leveled and im proud :DDD
My prediction?!
Snipinpanda strong guy, sad to see in my pool
pjyhwaiting I no info, but looks strong
ni.lumire okay guy, or strong?
sGs.Pie sGs had a C ranks? didnt know really...
S2Glow looking strong as top player in player list
-mantoss- so zergs are what? women? i dont think so
, Probe is this Probe that i'm thinking of?
lonelyprobe-- your lonely probe will be dead in my base
CobaltBlu i think i can win this
Puppykiller reformed animal killer, now puppyKLR (Kiss, Lather, Rinse)
, dsyxelic relya gauff playner!
, , Iplaythings idontliketerran
Cocky i never played him
Ninazerg we'll see ^^
Noise[AoV] revenge match for me! BRING IT ON
, Thundersapien all terrans are gay
Johny23 gotta love smurf
[SCB]Terranos Scary like 1-1 marines
Drywater Why does everyone thinks this guy is bad?
Kiante only toss in my pool,but he looks strong but i hope i can handle toss
Zergneedsfood wesuredoneedfoodiknowright?
vTv.Mercurial ME :D
sGs.Yaqoob dont know him...didnt know sGs had a C ranks
JustoLamas no info
oxyacety not looking strong
SL]..AleC- you said +1 5rax? bring it on
SakuraKyouko i won 1-0 on ladder
Scary[t] your account name should be changed
xxpack09 no idea who this is, but its TOSS
Kororo me gusta zvz
[KDV]Mewka easy opponent
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On January 23 2012 15:16 Snipinpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 15:07 Kiante wrote:
snipinpanda will probably take out my group. someone said he was better than me. also i've barely be practicing, i expect to get done 0-3 ez Man, random hearsay is incredibly credible!
i think im geting 0-3
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On January 25 2012 08:52 TheShimmy wrote:
Gogogogogogogogogo Zergs.
Kororo, Mercurial, Ninazerg, and lumire have my support! (Pure zergs ftw).
I love the dates now. I'll definitely be watching as much as possible. Somebody should make a bracket challenge on here once the groups are made (or at least the the sweet sixteen). I'd gladly do it.
GO ZERG
FOR TE SWARM AND INFESTED KERRIGAN
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I like how everyone calls me the smurf when I have 91-104 C+ and 41-25 C- and 7-2 D+. I have more games listed then like 75% of the people in the tourney.
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Most people just see your name and assume your a smurf based on your name without bothering to check games. xD
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I like how everyone started getting uppity about these I'm winning lists, all which originated from an obvious and historical joke haha.
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Both declare race via PM to admin?
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lonelyprobe-- will win
you heard it here first
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On January 27 2012 13:00 krndandaman wrote:
for race picker standoffs what should we do?
ex.
I am a pvz/zvp/pvt
i am vsing a zvp, pvz, pvt as well
however both of us want to ZvP as its our strongest matchup
both of us are afraid if we pvz we will lose
what to do in this situation?
Then you both deserve to ZvZ. Or go into the game, both pick Z, first person to chicken out chooses some other race. The scenario you describe has no fair solution, so deal with it.
On January 27 2012 14:24 GasMaskSociety wrote:
lonelyprobe-- will win
you heard it here first
I wish. I thought I would get better because I've been practicing using that Hotkey trainer, the 280 APM I get in that does not translate at all to real games ): So, I'm still terrible.
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On January 27 2012 13:00 krndandaman wrote:
for race picker standoffs what should we do?
ex.
I am a pvz/zvp/pvt
i am vsing a zvp, pvz, pvt as well
however both of us want to ZvP as its our strongest matchup
both of us are afraid if we pvz we will lose
what to do in this situation?
One of the other admins suggested that we have like a 3...2...1... shout your race thing. But yeah, they can each just PM their choice of race, or talk among themselves and come up with a solution
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On January 27 2012 14:07 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Both declare race via PM to admin?
Probably best idea
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I put you down as ZvP, ZvT, and PvZ assuming you didn't want to mirror. Please make something final before the 29th lol I'm kind of tired with everyone just switching or playing different races depending on your mood or whatnot. Just pick a race and practice it. That's what everyone else is doing TT
EDIT: If you are going to play ZvZ, then you should have to play it for the rest of the tourney.
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Group A, are you guys okay with just all meeting up on this Saturday 28th January 8PM EST (Sunday 10KST) and playing games then? Gives us roughly 2 hours to finish games before proleague..I think that should be enough?
Iccup channel: op A
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The only confusion is coming from people who can't play multiple races or can only play one match up. How is it my fault you can only play one match up? I have to declare my race because my opponent needs a week to prepare special snipe builds for me? Thanks for the compliment but I am really not a Flash level player.
ISL2 didn't have this problem they allowed you to pick whatever race you wanted as long as it was chosen prior to the game starting.
Hence if you can play multiple match ups congrats thats your advantage. Not " OMG ADMIN I CANT PLAY VS MULTIPLE RACES PLEASE MAKE THEM ANNOUNCE ONE WEEK AHEAD!" ....Why would we need to change ISL2 tourney rules? How is their crying enough to over turn previous amateur BW tourney rules but my crying doesn't matter?
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Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place?
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Peeps from group H
What you say we get the playing done on saturday afternoon / evening? I don't really have time this friday and while finding time in the week days would be doable it'd complicate it cus I'm kinda scheduled up, haven't had much practice either.
In any way, add Iplaythings and spamm me whenever :p
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On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place?
How about a different question, why do tourney admins have to deal with anyone crying when the rules are very simple? You signed up for the tournament as is.
On January 27 2012 18:35 fold wrote:
Group A, are you guys okay with just all meeting up on this Saturday 28th January 8PM EST (Sunday 10KST) and playing games then? Gives us roughly 2 hours to finish games before proleague..I think that should be enough?
Iccup channel: op A
I'm okay with this.
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On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place?
tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again
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On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again
Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules!
And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first.
sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlu,lonelyprobe--, Probe, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!
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On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!
Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name );
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On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!! Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name );
Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in
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On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!! Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name ); Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in
BaBo
And Probe is sGs.Blu
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On January 28 2012 01:06 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!! Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name ); Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in BaBo And Probe is sGs.Blu
O_O I didn't know this! You should join the skype chat There's like, no protoss to play with haha
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On January 28 2012 01:07 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 01:06 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!! Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name ); Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in BaBo And Probe is sGs.Blu O_O I didn't know this! You should join the skype chat There's like, no protoss to play with haha
Sent a request to l_master, I'm koreangrandma on skype if you can add it sooner.
Also, I believe Cocky is a co-leader? sGs.Cocky?
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On January 28 2012 01:45 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 01:07 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 01:06 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.
Same with ISL1 and ISL2.
Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place? tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules! And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first. sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!! Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name ); Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in BaBo And Probe is sGs.Blu O_O I didn't know this! You should join the skype chat There's like, no protoss to play with haha Sent a request to l_master, I'm koreangrandma on skype if you can add it sooner. Also, I believe Cocky is a co-leader? sGs.Cocky?
I sent a request on skype I'm sGs.Shimy on there too
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Jealous: I am sGs.Probe actually, NOOB.
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I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player
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On January 28 2012 05:06 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 15:27 Shimy wrote:
I put you down as ZvP, ZvT, and PvZ assuming you didn't want to mirror. Please make something final before the 29th lol I'm kind of tired with everyone just switching or playing different races depending on your mood or whatnot. Just pick a race and practice it. That's what everyone else is doing TT
EDIT: If you are going to play ZvZ, then you should have to play it for the rest of the tourney. im a pvter, not zvter ok if thats the rules ill select zvz. i feel like there are more people who are more better at zvp than zvz than i am at pvz over zvz. so i am zvz zvp pvt
Ok thanks :D
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I hope they make Jade the motw next week cause I can't get games on it. I'm going to be forced to play on fish server to get practice.
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just wanted to say that this is awesome
cheers
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Ok, I pm'ed you my races I am playing Shimy.
Also in response to 1004 and everyone else who made a smart comment:
#1 It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. People trying to get rules "Changed" (because YES, originally I was allowed to play the races I wanted) under the guise of "FAIRNESS" when in reality it's unfair to the people who can play multiple races.
#2 To reiterate my point to the person who said "if I don't like the rules" the initial rules WERE allowing me to play the way I wanted to. What don't you understand? Other people crying is what changed them. So stop saying I shouldn't of signed up if I didn't like the rules. It's really a pathetic smart ass comment on your part and not only do I not appreciate it but it also makes no sense.
EDIT: Second point is toward Jealous. Seriously what don't you understand? I WAS allowed to initially play the races I wanted. It's after everyone bitching that I wasn't. How can you be stupid? If you're going to try to be a little smart ass why don't you actually make some sense.
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Jealous, you have the comprehension level of a peanut. Why would you want to make smart ass comments toward me?
#1 I am not the one that can't play vs multiple races
#2 I am not the one who asked anyone to change any rules that aren't already typical (IE: ICCUP TOURNAMENTS, ISL1, ISL2)
#3 All I want to be able to do is pick which race I want vs which players. It's such a simple thing that the previous mention tournaments allow that I am being denied.
#4 Why can't you make a smart ass comment towards the people who can't play vs multiple races and need a week for their small mind to prepare? Or maybe you're one of the simpletons who can't do it?
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On January 28 2012 07:58 johny23 wrote:
Ok, I pm'ed you my races I am playing Shimy.
Also in response to 1004 and everyone else who made a smart comment:
#1 It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. People trying to get rules "Changed" (because YES, originally I was allowed to play the races I wanted) under the guise of "FAIRNESS" when in reality it's unfair to the people who can play multiple races.
#2 To reiterate my point to the person who said "if I don't like the rules" the initial rules WERE allowing me to play the way I wanted to. What don't you understand? Other people crying is what changed them. So stop saying I shouldn't of signed up if I didn't like the rules. It's really a pathetic smart ass comment on your part and not only do I not appreciate it but it also makes no sense.
So we're pathetic for telling you to deal with it, whereas you are clearly not... Despite the fact that you have been crying about this in every post like a kid who dropped his ice cream? Instead of whining about it you could have just PM'd Shimy for clarification. But no, you chose to become a public martyr. Sorry that no one sympathized with your selfish "I want to pick my race right before the game sux2beu" attitude. It's clear that Shimy did not understand your intentions, and thought you would be playing random, as you said previously(it is even listed in the OP as such, you know, that post that people refer to know what race to practice against?).
Regardless of all this, I find it highly hypocritical that you blame other people for crying and changing the rules, then try to do the exact same thing. After all this, should I feel offended by anything you've said? Haha.xD
In other words, stop whining and manner up, regardless of whether you think you have/actually have a valid point. I don't even care what your point is, your behavior is childish at best. You keep referring to typical tournament rules, then go fucking play those tournaments. This is Shimy's tournament. What the hell does he care what those ICCup rules are? Is this an ICCup event? No. Lol and you call me the moron.
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You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.
I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?
I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?
For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.
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On January 28 2012 08:03 johny23 wrote:
Jealous, you have the comprehension level of a peanut. Why would you want to make smart ass comments toward me?
#1 I am not the one that can't play vs multiple races
#2 I am not the one who asked anyone to change any rules that aren't already typical (IE: ICCUP TOURNAMENTS, ISL1, ISL2)
#3 All I want to be able to do is pick which race I want vs which players. It's such a simple thing that the previous mention tournaments allow that I am being denied.
#4 Why can't you make a smart ass comment towards the people who can't play vs multiple races and need a week for their small mind to prepare? Or maybe you're one of the simpletons who can't do it?
By the way,
"How about a different question, why do tourney admins have to deal with anyone crying when the rules are very simple? You signed up for the tournament as is."
^ Where in this do you see me refer to your situation in any way? I was referring to the same thing you were: how people whined and got things changed. But now, you come in here guns blazing. Seriously, what ticked you off so bad? Such ridiculous bad manner in response to something that wasn't even offensive, lol.
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So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
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On January 28 2012 08:11 johny23 wrote:
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.
I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?
I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?
For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.
Wow... So you don't see the impact of choosing your race before the match, based on who you face? I don't know if you've noticed, but that would affect what the other player prepares for. Do you mean to say that as soon as you learn who you will be facing, you will PM them the race you will use against them? If so, that still gives the opponents an unfair disadvantage because you know what race they will be playing as soon as results are posted, whereas they find out your race... Well... Whenever the fuck you feel like telling them? Don't be ridiculous. Just because ISL/ISL2/johny23's shitty tournament/whatever did things differently, doesn't mean you should come in here and cry because things are different. Deal with it. I don't understand what you don't understand either.
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On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all.
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On January 28 2012 08:15 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:11 johny23 wrote:
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.
I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?
I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?
For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.
Wow... So you don't see the impact of choosing your race before the match, based on who you face? I don't know if you've noticed, but that would affect what the other player prepares for. Do you mean to say that as soon as you learn who you will be facing, you will PM them the race you will use against them? If so, that still gives the opponents an unfair disadvantage because you know what race they will be playing as soon as results are posted, whereas they find out your race... Well... Whenever the fuck you feel like telling them? Don't be ridiculous. Just because ISL/ISL2/johny23's shitty tournament/whatever did things differently, doesn't mean you should come in here and cry because things are different. Deal with it. I don't understand what you don't understand either.
You're entire statement is the same thing as saying. I don't care if you know how to play all three races. We're not going to allow you to get the full benefit of that sorry.
If anyone would of been man enough to say that there wouldn't be a problem. The issue is when it comes under the guise of fairness and how "its not fair to people who only play one race".
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zzz it doesn't matter if you can play all 3 races, pick your best 3 mu for mu and use them, rules are rules. tournament director decides is the end of the story.
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So now someone will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds(literally down to the last SCV). This is more quality and entertaining then people making up builds on the fly?
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1004, I already said I pm'ed the admin by three match ups. My comments are directed to the smart asses(yourself included).
So if you no longer want to hear me speak on the subject I suggest stop you're lame comments towards me and I won't feel the need to post any further rebuttals
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On January 28 2012 08:18 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:15 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 08:11 johny23 wrote:
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.
I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?
I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?
For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.
Wow... So you don't see the impact of choosing your race before the match, based on who you face? I don't know if you've noticed, but that would affect what the other player prepares for. Do you mean to say that as soon as you learn who you will be facing, you will PM them the race you will use against them? If so, that still gives the opponents an unfair disadvantage because you know what race they will be playing as soon as results are posted, whereas they find out your race... Well... Whenever the fuck you feel like telling them? Don't be ridiculous. Just because ISL/ISL2/johny23's shitty tournament/whatever did things differently, doesn't mean you should come in here and cry because things are different. Deal with it. I don't understand what you don't understand either. You're entire statement is the same thing as saying. I don't care if you know how to play all three races. We're not going to allow you to get the full benefit of that sorry. If anyone would of been man enough to say that there wouldn't be a problem. The issue is when it comes under the guise of fairness and how "its not fair to people who only play one race".
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't care. You can play random if you want, who is stopping you? Then you can show us just how manly you are (a laughable standard, by the way). The reason it's unfair is not because we won't know what race we're playing, which would be the case in random, it's because you want to race-pick against certain players and make this fact known at a later time than you yourself know their race. This is clearly a disadvantage to your opponents.
By the way, skill is not the addition of your 3 race abilities combined, it's your ability regardless of what race you choose. The fact that you think you are somehow better than other people who are of approximately the same skill level as you, or more 'manly' or whatever you want to use to describe it, is pretentiously hilarious.
Manner up.
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On January 28 2012 08:18 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all.
Once again I ALREADY PM'ED MY RACES TO THE TOURNEY DIRECTOR. That part is over with. My comments are towards your smart ass comments and lack of comprehension of how restricting someone is totally different then me asking to please not be restricted.
Also people will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds down the the last probe/scv and you wan't me to believe that's more of a quality game then players making up their own builds and *gasp* using their own brain?
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On January 28 2012 08:29 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:18 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all. Once again I ALREADY PM'ED MY RACES TO THE TOURNEY DIRECTOR. That part is over with. My comments are towards your smart ass comments and lack of comprehension of how restricting someone is totally different then me asking to please not be restricted. Also people will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds down the the last probe/scv and you wan't me to believe that's more of a quality game then players making up their own builds and *gasp* using their own brain?
So you're saying you already decided to follow the rules, but after that you decided you would come into the thread to publicly whine about it? Okay.
Oh and you also think that you can come up with better builds than progamers, or that anything you do come up with hasn't already been done in the past? Okay.
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This is Shimy's tourney. You follow his rules, simple. I do not understand what is so hard about that.
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On January 28 2012 08:32 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:29 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 08:18 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all. Once again I ALREADY PM'ED MY RACES TO THE TOURNEY DIRECTOR. That part is over with. My comments are towards your smart ass comments and lack of comprehension of how restricting someone is totally different then me asking to please not be restricted. Also people will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds down the the last probe/scv and you wan't me to believe that's more of a quality game then players making up their own builds and *gasp* using their own brain? So you're saying you already decided to follow the rules, but after that you decided you would come into the thread to publicly whine about it? Okay. Oh and you also think that you can come up with better builds than progamers, or that anything you do come up with hasn't already been done in the past? Okay.
The explanation to the people asking for set match ups in this STRATEGY game(therefore limiting the strategy I might add) was under the guise of fairness.
It had nothing to do with fairness. It's what they wanted, it's now less fair to the majority of race pickers. OK so it's the rules. There's more people who play a single race then not so fair enough.
I don't mind following the rules. I mind the people that were ok with pretending why the rules were set.
It's really that simple.
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On January 28 2012 08:39 GasMaskSociety wrote:
This is Shimy's tourney. You follow his rules, simple. I do not understand what is so hard about that.
Ok, I'd now like to ask you whats so hard to understand. Considering I've already stated multiple that I've already followed the rules and sent my three match ups to the tourney director. I am following the rules.
Have you ever heard of principal? Yes my comments were made on pure principal. I am done explaining this as obviously everyone here only knows of making comments for selfish reasons. Apparently can't even grasp that a comment would be made that has no relation to any monetary or self worldly gain.
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On January 28 2012 08:45 GasMaskSociety wrote:
Then stop bitching.
I'd now like to ask again what's so hard to understand. I wanted to clearly state why the rules were made and not let anyone get away with pretending.
I think I've accomplished my goals so I will honor your request. However, if someone still doesn't get it and wants to post further smart ass comments I will be forced to post a rebuttal.
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I've heard of principals. One of mine was Mr. Brown. In 5th grade he physically hurt one of the kids in my grade. Then he went to jail haha.
Shimy, can you add a rule that says that in this thread people can't whine and try to push their subjective standards of fairness onto others, while ignoring simple concepts such as mutual knowledge of match-up? I think it would benefit everyone.
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lol calling me a smartass, so i guess stating that tournament directors run their own tournament makes me a smartass. ok.
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On January 28 2012 08:45 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:39 GasMaskSociety wrote:
This is Shimy's tourney. You follow his rules, simple. I do not understand what is so hard about that. Ok, I'd now like to ask you whats so hard to understand. Considering I've already stated multiple that I've already followed the rules and sent my three match ups to the tourney director. I am following the rules. Have you ever heard of principal? Yes my comments were made on pure principal. I am done explaining this as obviously everyone here only knows of making comments for selfish reasons. Apparently can't even grasp that a comment would be made that has no relation to any monetary or self worldly gain.
What's hard to understand is the following:
Imagine you challenge a person to a duel. You both have the option of bringing a sword, a spear, or a maul. Now imagine that there exists a rule that says that you have to let the other person know what weapon you will bring, so that you both may devise counter-strategies. Alternately, you can choose to have a weapon picked at random for you right before the duel, and your opponent would be made aware of this choice. Now, you've decided that these rules were unfair (part 1 of difficult to understand) and decide that it would be MORE fair if you had the option of not letting your opponent know what you chose until you feel like it, all while knowing the entire time what weapon he will have. So, for example, he chose to bring a sword. You know he chose to bring a sword. So, you think about it some, and you show up to the fight with a spear, having had a little under a week to prepare in spear vs. sword fighting. The opponent on the other hand has had no idea what the fuck will happen, and is therefore forced to practice against all three weapons equally. This, you feel, is ultimately fair (part 2 of hard to understand).
NOTE: This is wholly different from the 'weapon gets assigned to you at random the day of the fight' because you would ALSO have to practice with all three weapons against his declared sword class. In YOUR proposed scenario, you can merrily practice only spear vs. sword, while he practices sword vs. everything.
FFS.
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On January 28 2012 08:29 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:18 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.
Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.
Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all. Once again I ALREADY PM'ED MY RACES TO THE TOURNEY DIRECTOR. That part is over with. My comments are towards your smart ass comments and lack of comprehension of how restricting someone is totally different then me asking to please not be restricted. Also people will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds down the the last probe/scv and you wan't me to believe that's more of a quality game then players making up their own builds and *gasp* using their own brain?
Learning how to play standard is far more than 'copying builds down.' And basing a build off worker counts is a ridiculous idea since players are constantly losing workers or making small adjustments that may alter their worker counts. Moreover, in professional VODs its very difficult to know the precise worker counts and the timings that players cut workers in all cases. And there are very few replays from the current BW professional metagame in circulation (All replays prior to the Circuit Breaker, La Mancha, Bloody Ridge, etc...map pack are outdated). So I don't think it would be very effective to get information from replays, since there really aren't any good replays that are available for the public.
Moreover, when you say you 'Make up your own builds' I presume you are implying that you play aggressively which also implies you are hoping you don't get scouted so that you can get a cheap win. When players use aggressive builds they tend to be referred to as surprise builds or cheese builds because they are dependent on being unscouted or dependent on an opponent not reacting properly and thereby providing the aggressive player with a quick and easy win, even if the aggressive player isn't as good as the passive player. And learning how to execute standard play along with learning how to adapt to beating aggressive play does require brains, thinking, logic, reason, etc...
Now if you are 'making up your own build' and attempting to play passively, you are going to lose. The current meta game was developed by the most brilliant Starcraft players in the world and has been vigorously redefined for a long time (I don't want to say for the extent of SC's life since there was very little skill development in the early years of SC). Its ridiculous to presume an individual should come up with the same conclusions as hundreds of thousands of hours of vigorous study and experimentation by the professional players and coaches if learning the game by themselves or among a group of equally ignorant players. Do you think its an accident there is such a large skill gap between Korean pro gamers (And even Korean Amateurs) and non Korean players? Well, statistics would tell us its no accident. Professional players constantly refer to other players and their coaching staffs to better understand the current meta game, to refine builds (SKT1 players and Flash talk about this all the time), and to make adjustments to poor decision making in tournament games. And to imply you are smarter or more strategically equipped than professional players is a frivolous argument. So no, you are not necessarily a smarter, more creative, or more intuitive player than people who choose to learn and implement the standard meta game and build orders into their games.
Now, I'm not saying that it will make a difference if you race pick and I'm not attempting to argue that your opponents will have very refined mechanics. In fact, even if the players did have refined mechanics the games are pretty much all played on back to back days so there wouldn't be enough time to prepare anyways. But the statement you made about standard users is condescending to how much work it takes to learn the SC meta game and to be able to apply it in a rather cheesy environment like iCCup or lower ranked Fish games. Its not easy to do, its not mindless, and in my opinion, it is more difficult that making up your own aggressive builds and hoping your opponent doesn't know how to handle it.
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On January 28 2012 08:57 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:45 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 08:39 GasMaskSociety wrote:
This is Shimy's tourney. You follow his rules, simple. I do not understand what is so hard about that. Ok, I'd now like to ask you whats so hard to understand. Considering I've already stated multiple that I've already followed the rules and sent my three match ups to the tourney director. I am following the rules. Have you ever heard of principal? Yes my comments were made on pure principal. I am done explaining this as obviously everyone here only knows of making comments for selfish reasons. Apparently can't even grasp that a comment would be made that has no relation to any monetary or self worldly gain. What's hard to understand is the following: Imagine you challenge a person to a duel. You both have the option of bringing a sword, a spear, or a maul. Now imagine that there exists a rule that says that you have to let the other person know what weapon you will bring, so that you both may devise counter-strategies. Alternately, you can choose to have a weapon picked at random for you right before the duel, and your opponent would be made aware of this choice. Now, you've decided that these rules were unfair (part 1 of difficult to understand) and decide that it would be MORE fair if you had the option of not letting your opponent know what you chose until you feel like it, all while knowing the entire time what weapon he will have. So, for example, he chose to bring a sword. You know he chose to bring a sword. So, you think about it some, and you show up to the fight with a spear, having had a little under a week to prepare in spear vs. sword fighting. The opponent on the other hand has had no idea what the fuck will happen, and is therefore forced to practice against all three weapons equally. This, you feel, is ultimately fair (part 2 of hard to understand). NOTE: This is wholly different from the 'weapon gets assigned to you at random the day of the fight' because you would ALSO have to practice with all three weapons against his declared sword class. In YOUR proposed scenario, you can merrily practice only spear vs. sword, while he practices sword vs. everything. FFS.
ITS A TOURNAMENT DUDE. You completely ignore this point: Someone know hows to use all three weapons sword, spear and a maul. He knows in round one his spear will work best vs his opponents sword so he wins.
However round two he is now forced to use his spear vs his opponents sword even though he knows his maul would work best. So now even though he trained for all three weapons he only gets to use one of them. All because the person who only knows one weapon talked the king into making him use that weapon for the rest of the tournament.
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On January 28 2012 09:03 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 08:57 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 08:45 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 08:39 GasMaskSociety wrote:
This is Shimy's tourney. You follow his rules, simple. I do not understand what is so hard about that. Ok, I'd now like to ask you whats so hard to understand. Considering I've already stated multiple that I've already followed the rules and sent my three match ups to the tourney director. I am following the rules. Have you ever heard of principal? Yes my comments were made on pure principal. I am done explaining this as obviously everyone here only knows of making comments for selfish reasons. Apparently can't even grasp that a comment would be made that has no relation to any monetary or self worldly gain. What's hard to understand is the following: Imagine you challenge a person to a duel. You both have the option of bringing a sword, a spear, or a maul. Now imagine that there exists a rule that says that you have to let the other person know what weapon you will bring, so that you both may devise counter-strategies. Alternately, you can choose to have a weapon picked at random for you right before the duel, and your opponent would be made aware of this choice. Now, you've decided that these rules were unfair (part 1 of difficult to understand) and decide that it would be MORE fair if you had the option of not letting your opponent know what you chose until you feel like it, all while knowing the entire time what weapon he will have. So, for example, he chose to bring a sword. You know he chose to bring a sword. So, you think about it some, and you show up to the fight with a spear, having had a little under a week to prepare in spear vs. sword fighting. The opponent on the other hand has had no idea what the fuck will happen, and is therefore forced to practice against all three weapons equally. This, you feel, is ultimately fair (part 2 of hard to understand). NOTE: This is wholly different from the 'weapon gets assigned to you at random the day of the fight' because you would ALSO have to practice with all three weapons against his declared sword class. In YOUR proposed scenario, you can merrily practice only spear vs. sword, while he practices sword vs. everything. FFS. ITS A TOURNAMENT DUDE. You completely ignore this point: Someone know hows to use all three weapons sword, spear and a maul. He knows in round one his spear will work best vs his opponents sword so he wins. However round two he is now forced to use his spear vs his opponents sword even though he knows his maul would work best. So now even though he trained for all three weapons he only gets to use one of them. All because the person who only knows one weapon talked the king into making him use that weapon for the rest of the tournament.
For this approach to be valid, you would have to state from the start what weapon you would use vs. every player in the tournament for it to be fair. Otherwise, that information will be unfairly withheld from your potential opponent, whereas you already know what his weapon choice is. You think this is fair?
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On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry.
You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others.
You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups.
Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage.
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Dude it's the tournament rules just deal with it.
If you're going to play random play random. When the organizer gives you two weeks to prepare It should be pretty simple to understand why your opponent would like to have equal opportunity to know who he is playing during this time.
Starcraft isn't a sword fight.
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One-week or less of prep time just for the pre-tourny pool play.
After that you will have less then 24 hours to "practice" or come up with builds. You won't even know your opponent until then.
So now instead of me saying oh I'd like to play "ZvZ" against this guy. I now don't have that option. For what? So someone has an extra 3-4 hours of knowing my race ahead of time? How will they prepare now? They don't even know they're facing me! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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On January 28 2012 09:14 CobaltBlu wrote:
Dude it's the tournament rules just deal with it.
If you're going to play random play random. When the organizer gives you two weeks to prepare It should be pretty simple to understand why your opponent would like to have equal opportunity to know who he is playing during this time.
Starcraft isn't a sword fight.
You guys must be trolling me now.
#1 I WASNT THE ONE THAT STARTED THE SWORD ANALOGY I ONLY CONTINUED IT TO COUNTER HIS POINT LOL.
#2 You only have two weeks to prepare for the PRE-TOURNY GROUP BRACKETS!!! After that you will have less then 24 hours to prepare for RO16 and then without a doubt less then 24 hours to prepare for RO8.
So you're denying me being able to pick different races vs different players so that someone can have maybe at max an extra 3-4 hours to prepare. Prepare what? more practice time? They will still know my race prior to playing me. What will an extra 3-4hours to (ASSUMING they can even log on and practice prior to the tourney starting) really do?
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On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage.
No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either
a) has no objective sense of fairness
or
b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?).
Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow).
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On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow).
You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts.
So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance?
It makes no sense
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On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense
So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage.
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On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage.
I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal.
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Kiante,Noise[AoV],SnipinPanda please check iccup msg.
since im too lazy to pm in tl
i need to set the dates for our matches
p.s TvZ on Desti.... this is really sad
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PvP PvT RvZ.
There's my three match ups for everyone to see. So everyone can prepare now. Per reading the thread RvZ is fair because I have to prepare for three different match ups and so does my opponent.
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On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal.
Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above).
Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal
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On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal
What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions.
You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd.
If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus.
EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage.
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On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage.
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How about instead of trying to nit-pick things to prove I am wrong you actually address my macro point?
You never addressed how it's damaging to my opponent when he will know my race the second I know I am playing him. Yet you have no problem limiting what match ups I can play later in the name of "fairness"
Also you never addressed how it's "fair" to limit players to watch match ups they can and can't play. IE: Either play ZvP or TvP or PvP choose now and you can never change regardless of your opponent.
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On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage.
1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read.
2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony:
"Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal."
I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on.
3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal.
In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament.
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On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament.
My accusation was that you were someone who wouldn't be effected by the having to choose your match ups. Why would I argue against you and then accuse you of being in the same boat as me. Even if I stated something incorrectly it should be fairly obvious by your biased slant that you only play one race
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On January 28 2012 10:17 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. My accusation was that you were someone who wouldn't be effected by the having to choose your match ups. Why would I argue against you and then accuse you of being in the same boat as me. Even if I stated something incorrectly it should be fairly obvious by your biased slant that you only play one race
It's very ironic and funny that I used the incorrect word. However, something you don't understand is that it doesn't really change the fact of what I stated. You knew what I meant and what I said still stands. You're only trying to use it to lessen my point without addressing it.
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On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament.
I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game.
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On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:05 Jealous wrote:
EDIT: I give up, sorry. You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others. You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups. Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage. No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game.
Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct?
That's a really interesting perspective.
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On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:12 johny23 wrote:
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You failed to realize there's two sides of the argument which I was waiting for you to do. This is why you get grouped in with the others.
You either think or act like the only "right" and "fair" decision is to obviously make multi-race players pre-pick their match ups.
Never once did you acknowledge the point of restrictions being placed on the multi-race players. I did however state that there's more single race players therefore it makes sense that the majority won and they get the advantage.
No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either a) has no objective sense of fairness or b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?). Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective.
Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate.
Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots.
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On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:21 Jealous wrote:
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No, I failed to realize that I was dealing with a person who either
a) has no objective sense of fairness
or
b) has no ability to understand math (1 week of prep time is more than 6 days of prep time, 24 hours is more than 20, and timezones also come into play... also, what would be the cut-off point at which you would be DQ'd for not sending your race pick on time? is that up to you to decide as well?).
Although, I guess it's my fault for not realizing this after you decided that your made-up builds were better than pro builds and that it's anything but socially abhorrent to come into a thread just to cry about rules that you CHOSE to follow (as in, no one forced you to follow). You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts. So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance? It makes no sense So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots.
Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise.
It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own.
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Talk about assumptions. That's all you people do. Call me a smurf ( when I have more games then 75%+ players on my account) and call me a cheeser.
Get real.
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On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:
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You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts.
So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance?
It makes no sense
So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own.
Heaven forbid you just say "I'm playing PvZ" and play.
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On January 28 2012 11:00 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:
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So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage.
I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own. Heaven forbid you just say "I'm playing PvZ" and play.
Heaven forbid you comprehend that this is a strategy game. Heaven forbid you comprehend that being able to play more then one race "should" be a benefit. Heaven forbid that you just maybe don't applaud having restrictions placed on players. Heaven forbid that you learn to play the game without having someone tell you their race in advance so you can go write down your pro-gaming builds. Heaven forbid that you understand that picking different races vs different people is a "strategy" and that race vs race in this game can be a "strategy" that you use in a "Strategy game".
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On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:24 johny23 wrote:
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You try to nit-pick to get around my point. Ok so however much of prep time there is for pre-tourny brackets doesnt change the fact that you only have 24 hour before ro16 starts and without a doubt only 24 hour before ro8 starts.
So you're trying to tell me that it's going to effect someone not knowing my race in advance when they won't even know their playing me until max 24 hours in advance?
It makes no sense
So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage. I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own.
It's just annoying when you play as protoss and you have to 1 base against zerg or you scout protoss last and you've already gone core and they're 2 gate zealoting. You're announcing the race you're playing when you're RvZing right? Then it should be no problem and I don't know why there's 5 pages of this -.-
Edit: Thanks to Group A for replying, see you all tomorrow.
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Holy crap. What the heck you guys? PvP RvZ PvT are his races as he has PM'd me and they are now in the OP. Please stop posting about this crap johny. Someone start posting something else lol
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On January 28 2012 11:14 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:
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So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage.
I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own. It's just annoying when you play as protoss and you have to 1 base against zerg or you scout protoss last and you've already gone core and they're 2 gate zealoting. You're announcing the race you're playing when you're RvZing right? Then it should be no problem and I don't know why there's 5 pages of this -.-
There is 5 pages because he agreed to the rules but decided to whine about them anyways. This naturally led everyone to believe that he had not yet agreed to follow the rules. When it became clear that he agreed to follow the rules, he began arguing about how it was unfair that he had to announce his race before the match. It took a long discussion to decipher the fact that he was indeed willing to announce the race he picks as soon as he knows who he is playing, and not right before the game, which would be entirely unfair.
Please, I beg you, don't start asking him about anything RvZ. He will bring up how in ISL2 he didn't have to do it, and how he is losing the benefit from being able to play all 3 races, and how it's placing restrictions on him that he has to announce race. Then he will tell you that you don't know what restrictions, fairness, and principals are. He will go as far as claiming that you don't even know of the words, and that if you say you do, you are a liar.
Throughout the entire process he will not read what you write, and will quote himself repeatedly, adding nothing.
Please, don't start. Many valiant posters have fallen before your time.
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On January 28 2012 11:18 Shimy wrote:
Holy crap. What the heck you guys? PvP RvZ PvT are his races as he has PM'd me and they are now in the OP. Please stop posting about this crap johny. Someone start posting something else lol
Alright, change of subject!
In the quite likely event that I am knocked out of the tournament, I will be rooting for snipin_panda.
Who will you root for if you're no longer in the tour?
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On January 28 2012 11:21 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 11:14 fold wrote:On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:
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I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal.
Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own. It's just annoying when you play as protoss and you have to 1 base against zerg or you scout protoss last and you've already gone core and they're 2 gate zealoting. You're announcing the race you're playing when you're RvZing right? Then it should be no problem and I don't know why there's 5 pages of this -.- There is 5 pages because he agreed to the rules but decided to whine about them anyways. This naturally led everyone to believe that he had not yet agreed to follow the rules. When it became clear that he agreed to follow the rules, he began arguing about how it was unfair that he had to announce his race before the match. It took a long discussion to decipher the fact that he was indeed willing to announce the race he picks as soon as he knows who he is playing, and not right before the game, which would be entirely unfair. Please, I beg you, don't start asking him about anything RvZ. He will bring up how in ISL2 he didn't have to do it, and how he is losing the benefit from being able to play all 3 races, and how it's placing restrictions on him that he has to announce race. Then he will tell you that you don't know what restrictions, fairness, and principals are. He will go as far as claiming that you don't even know of the words, and that if you say you do, you are a liar. Throughout the entire process he will not read what you write, and will quote himself repeatedly, adding nothing. Please, don't start. Many valiant posters have fallen before your time.
LOL. I never played in ISL2 just was sourcing them. I don't care anymore gl hf.
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On January 28 2012 11:28 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 11:18 Shimy wrote:
Holy crap. What the heck you guys? PvP RvZ PvT are his races as he has PM'd me and they are now in the OP. Please stop posting about this crap johny. Someone start posting something else lol Alright, change of subject! In the quite likely event that I am knocked out of the tournament, I will be rooting for snipin_panda. Who will you root for if you're no longer in the tour?
Good topic. You can't pick yourself, so who are you rooting for? (I've already proclaimed my sGs pride )
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I think Kiante or Noise[AoV] will win if they both make it through group stages and don't play each other in RO16.
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On January 28 2012 12:08 krndandaman wrote:
Wait then i can choose between pvz and zvz as long as i announce it when matches are announced?
unfortunately not I was told, if you pick a match up now you have to stick with it. I wish this wasn't the case.
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I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
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On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
You're not going to root for me if you get knocked out?
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On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
Yeah, Shotcoder is a BM prick hope he gets kicked out early by some really gay shit.
I'll be rooting for Johny23, race pickers for the win. hahaha.
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On January 28 2012 12:26 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either. You're not going to root for me if you get knocked out?
Not going to lie, your posts have been some of the most laughter-inducing I've read on TL in a while. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of the way you go about voicing your opinions.
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I got the #1 bad manner on iccup. I've only toned it down because I dont want to be banned from tourney!
EDIT: Go to www.iccup.com check under Ladder 1x1 BM user. I am ranked olympic #1 103-0
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On January 28 2012 13:20 johny23 wrote:I got the #1 bad manner on iccup. I've only toned it down because I dont want to be banned from tourney! EDIT: Go to www.iccup.com check under Ladder 1x1 BM user. I am ranked olympic #1 103-0
I was referring to the fact that you are probably also somewhere around A- rank on WhineCup, specializing in late-game QQ builds that go against the typical strategy of crying first then settling for what you initially had. Your unique approach throws most people off, hence your high rank, but your willingness to settle first is detrimental to your achievement of an olympic rank.
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This is stupid take it to pm's please...
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On January 28 2012 14:22 Lumire wrote:
This is stupid take it to pm's please...
Sorry Lumire let me be the first to apologize that you don't approve my post. Please make a list of what we can and can't talk about.
Also I want to thank you for your superb contribution to this thread. It's really constructive to bash other's people post when you add absolutely nothing but criticism.
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On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player
On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player
On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed.
I think I found Scan guys.
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On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys.
LOOOOOOL
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On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys.
So he's D, C AND B- all at the same time? Wow thats gosu....
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On January 28 2012 14:22 Lumire wrote:
This is stupid take it to pm's please...
It's been over, now we're just doing bed talk.
@Detective puppykiller: LOL
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So he is trying to get in the 'D' rank teamleague to noob bash and lies about his real rank here too lol
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On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys.
LOL don't forget about the replay you and i casted, max
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On January 28 2012 17:30 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys. LOL don't forget about the replay you and i casted, max
To be fair...his skill is about D/D+ but no, he shouldn't play.
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lol just set the rules , only can choose 1 race. problem solved :D imo is kinda dumb that people choose match up, so if that person like t v z and t v p only and opponent also same and neither want to change race. is a never ending process means the game cant be started? lol
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On January 28 2012 17:30 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys. LOL don't forget about the replay you and i casted, max
Check my sig for the awesome replay.
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I accidentally went to sign up for D ranks team league one night when I was drunk because I thought it was for teams with rank of D not players , I didn't read it correctly and I also posted that in the thread correcting my mistake, I was B- before i stopped playing BW which was years ago, the post you posted of mine was in December 18th, 2010, I haven't played Broodwar in years so my skill level would be about C level, I understand that a lot of you don't like me but I am not doing anything to harm you, the fact that a lot of you get so uppity just because I wanted to play in a tournament, and then go and put replays of me in your sig, talk a lot of shit for no reason and be BM , all because I was in interested in playing in a tournament.
Like I said before I understand a lot of you dislike me, but I don't think I have done anything to you guys besides beat you in the game. (Fold, Puppykiller). So if I am D / D+, and I beat both of you undefeated, What does that make you? More eligible to play in this tournament?
Also it is pretty insane that you guys are so absolutely obsessed with disliking me that you would put a 2+ year old replay of me losing in your sig, cast replays of me , and have me be the topic of you're conversations all the time. lol. But seriously, thanks for the publicity. gl hf gg.
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On January 29 2012 04:50 GGzerG wrote: I accidentally went to sign up for D ranks team league one night when I was drunk because I thought it was for teams with rank of D not players , I didn't read it correctly and I also posted that in the thread correcting my mistake, I was B- before i stopped playing BW which was years ago, the post you posted of mine was in December 18th, 2010, I haven't played Broodwar in years so my skill level would be about C level, I understand that a lot of you don't like me but I am not doing anything to harm you, the fact that a lot of you get so uppity just because I wanted to play in a tournament, and then go and put replays of me in your sig, talk a lot of shit for no reason and be BM , all because I was in interested in playing in a tournament. Like I said before I understand a lot of you dislike me, but I don't think I have done anything to you guys besides beat you in the game. (Fold, Puppykiller). So if I am D / D+, and I beat both of you undefeated, What does that make you? More eligible to play in this tournament? Also it is pretty insane that you guys are so absolutely obsessed with disliking me that you would put a 2+ year old replay of me losing in your sig, cast replays of me , and have me be the topic of you're conversations all the time. lol. But seriously, thanks for the publicity. gl hf gg.
There's a fine line between defending yourself and being passive aggressive as hell when you have thoroughly embarassed yourself
you crossed it
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On January 29 2012 05:54 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:50 GGzerG wrote: I accidentally went to sign up for D ranks team league one night when I was drunk because I thought it was for teams with rank of D not players , I didn't read it correctly and I also posted that in the thread correcting my mistake, I was B- before i stopped playing BW which was years ago, the post you posted of mine was in December 18th, 2010, I haven't played Broodwar in years so my skill level would be about C level, I understand that a lot of you don't like me but I am not doing anything to harm you, the fact that a lot of you get so uppity just because I wanted to play in a tournament, and then go and put replays of me in your sig, talk a lot of shit for no reason and be BM , all because I was in interested in playing in a tournament. Like I said before I understand a lot of you dislike me, but I don't think I have done anything to you guys besides beat you in the game. (Fold, Puppykiller). So if I am D / D+, and I beat both of you undefeated, What does that make you? More eligible to play in this tournament? Also it is pretty insane that you guys are so absolutely obsessed with disliking me that you would put a 2+ year old replay of me losing in your sig, cast replays of me , and have me be the topic of you're conversations all the time. lol. But seriously, thanks for the publicity. gl hf gg. There's a fine line between defending yourself and being passive aggressive as hell when you have thoroughly embarassed yourself you crossed it
You don't know him well, do you? He's a habitual line stepper.
I know I'm being a hypocrite, me saying this on TL, but hey we all have our vices.
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On January 29 2012 05:54 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:50 GGzerG wrote: I accidentally went to sign up for D ranks team league one night when I was drunk because I thought it was for teams with rank of D not players , I didn't read it correctly and I also posted that in the thread correcting my mistake, I was B- before i stopped playing BW which was years ago, the post you posted of mine was in December 18th, 2010, I haven't played Broodwar in years so my skill level would be about C level, I understand that a lot of you don't like me but I am not doing anything to harm you, the fact that a lot of you get so uppity just because I wanted to play in a tournament, and then go and put replays of me in your sig, talk a lot of shit for no reason and be BM , all because I was in interested in playing in a tournament. Like I said before I understand a lot of you dislike me, but I don't think I have done anything to you guys besides beat you in the game. (Fold, Puppykiller). So if I am D / D+, and I beat both of you undefeated, What does that make you? More eligible to play in this tournament? Also it is pretty insane that you guys are so absolutely obsessed with disliking me that you would put a 2+ year old replay of me losing in your sig, cast replays of me , and have me be the topic of you're conversations all the time. lol. But seriously, thanks for the publicity. gl hf gg. There's a fine line between defending yourself and being passive aggressive as hell when you have thoroughly embarassed yourself you crossed it
There is also a fine line between people stating they're opinion and people outright purposely harassing and antagonizing just because of personal vendetta's.
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lol do you really think anything you say will be taken seriously?
haha
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GGzerG i challenge you to games all the time and you ALWAYS dodge.
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Ill play, just msg me on ni.lumire.
Not sure zvz practice would be the best way too get used to the maps though. ><
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You do realize that this replay is from the time you considered your "prime" right?
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Just realized I have to PvZ on Tau and Sniper Ridge...
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On January 29 2012 08:22 Lumire wrote:
Ill play, just msg me on ni.lumire.
Not sure zvz practice would be the best way too get used to the maps though. ><
You're in luck. GGzerG plays Protoss.
I, however, demand a bo9 grudgematch with all match-ups. I will cast it IN COLOR.
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Hello I will be streaming Pool A. Maybe commentate, but I suck so haha or observe. Starting now with my match.
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What do we do if it's 3-0 1-2 1-2 1-2? Tie breaker?
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Also, do 2-1 2-1 winners need to tiebreak for seed spots? What map would it be played on?
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gg's pool mates. It was anyone's game between you three.
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On January 29 2012 12:05 djcube wrote:
gg's pool mates. It was anyone's game between you three.
Haha don't be modest, 278 apm with 169 eapm gosu
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On January 29 2012 12:34 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 11:57 Jealous wrote:Pool A Results: + Show Spoiler +Kororo<<Jade>>pjyhwaiting
Thundersapien<<Sniper Ridge>>lonelyprobe--
Kororo<<Tau Cross>>lonelyprobe--
Thundersapien<<Destination>>pjywhaiting
Kororo<<Jade>>Thundersapien
pjywhaiting<<Tau Cross>>lonelyprobe--
Kororo 2-1
lonelyprobe-- 2-1
pjyhwaiting 1-2
Thundersapien 1-2 Shhhhh!!!! Delete this I don't want spoilers please :D
The reps arent being casted so i think its fine.
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On January 29 2012 12:35 Lumire wrote:
The reps arent being casted so i think its fine. :[/B]
On the contrary, I have found someone to cast the reps this week I was going to make a special announcement LOL
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****PLEASE, NO ONE POST THE RESULTS OF THE POOLS YET!****
I have found someone to cast some of the games sometime later this week! His name is Artanis[xp] and I will announce when he is casting! Thank you!
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+ Show Spoiler +koro slow dropped lings in his main and he got 4gated in the pvp (and koro spent all his time practicing zvt on the wrong map lol)
why fold why T_T
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Harem, when people play greedy, they deserve to be punished. Cause and effect.
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On January 29 2012 11:57 Jealous wrote:
Removed by request.
Once again,nothing to see here
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On January 29 2012 11:54 Jealous wrote:
Also, do 2-1 2-1 winners need to tiebreak for seed spots? What map would it be played on?
Good question! I've decided that whoever won between the 2 will receive the higher seed.
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On January 29 2012 12:46 Jealous wrote:
Harem, when people play greedy, they deserve to be punished. Cause and effect.
Ok so people should build 2 cannons in each mineral line vs Z before stargate and go 4 gate-obs-reaver expand in PvP everygame. ~_~
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On January 29 2012 12:55 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 12:46 Jealous wrote:
Harem, when people play greedy, they deserve to be punished. Cause and effect. Ok so people should build 2 cannons in each mineral line vs Z before stargate and go 4 gate-obs-reaver expand in PvP everygame. ~_~
No, people should 14 cc 12 nex and triple-hatch only.
This conversation has no end or point. I was just pointing out that it wasn't an out-of-the-blue decision, it was a response to a stimulus, apparently a strategically appropriate one.
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Shiny, you have to remove the results that are in your post when you quoted Jealous.
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Thanks! I didn't know that it worked like that lol I thought when he edited his, it would also edit mine haha
Thanks though!
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Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I don't mind playing a few extra games if that's possible.
I'm sorry guys T_T.
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On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T.
Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit)
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I'm going to lose so hard. -_-x
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Also I keep forgetting to say this, but:
Everyone please send me your reps! (Even if you lose the pool)
Having a caster, we're gonna follow 1 person from each Pool and cast their 3 games! Times and dates will be announced sometime tomorrow or the next day.
But this cannot be possible if we don't have replays! Also, to see if everyone is telling to the truth
EDIT: These can also be sent via TL if that is easier
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On January 29 2012 13:51 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T. Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit)
I guess I just have to hope then.
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On January 29 2012 14:00 Shimy wrote:Also I keep forgetting to say this, but: Everyone please send me your reps! (Even if you lose the pool)Having a caster, we're gonna follow 1 person from each Pool and cast their 3 games! Times and dates will be announced sometime tomorrow or the next day. But this cannot be possible if we don't have replays! Also, to see if everyone is telling to the truth EDIT: These can also be sent via TL if that is easier
Neat idea ^^;
For potential dropped players, I would normally side with a wildcard tournament, but I think fan favorite is a great idea too, especially since it will take less time. Giving back to people who give to TL, like our streamers and guide makers (I imagine those are the people who would be voted for). Although, people might cheat >> Make it by-post vote, with only posters who registered before the start of the tournament? That would be best imo xD
Yea I'm paranoid.
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On January 29 2012 14:08 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 13:51 Shimy wrote:On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T. Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit) I guess I just have to hope then.
If Probe doesn't lose I'll vote for you <3
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On January 29 2012 14:12 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 14:08 fold wrote:On January 29 2012 13:51 Shimy wrote:On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T. Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit) I guess I just have to hope then. If Probe doesn't lose I'll vote for you <3
Wildcard tournament is more fair.....
EDIT: "Cast line hopes Jealous take the bait"
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On January 29 2012 14:40 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 14:12 Jealous wrote:On January 29 2012 14:08 fold wrote:On January 29 2012 13:51 Shimy wrote:On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T. Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit) I guess I just have to hope then. If Probe doesn't lose I'll vote for you <3 Wildcard tournament is more fair..... EDIT: "Cast line hopes Jealous take the bait"
Only if you say what race you'll play in it before you even sign up for it. Like, right now. We can't get TOO wild, despite it being a wildcard tournament.
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On January 29 2012 14:40 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 14:12 Jealous wrote:On January 29 2012 14:08 fold wrote:On January 29 2012 13:51 Shimy wrote:On January 29 2012 13:47 fold wrote:
Is there any hope for the people who didn't make it in their pool to get a spot over the walkovers/no shows?
I'm sorry guys T_T. Fold! D: I think if someone drops out or can't play in the round of 16, we'll have a vote for a "fan favorite" to play to take the spot :D If no one drops out, no worries! With the success this has been showing so far, I plan to have another one next month :D (Although I may change things up a bit) I guess I just have to hope then. If Probe doesn't lose I'll vote for you <3 Wildcard tournament is more fair..... EDIT: "Cast line hopes Jealous take the bait"
He said himself that he would normally side with that kind of tournament
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Only if you say what race you'll play in it before you even sign up for it. Like, right now. We can't get TOO wild, despite it being a wildcard tournament.
LOL
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On January 29 2012 15:14 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 13:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm going to lose so hard. -_-x same here, never even played the maps i have to play
Hey man I said I'd practice with you ^^
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On January 29 2012 15:46 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:14 krndandaman wrote:On January 29 2012 13:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm going to lose so hard. -_-x same here, never even played the maps i have to play Hey man I said I'd practice with you ^^
You're supposed to practice with me instead because we're clanmates. I haven't gotten anyone to practice with me on these maps yet either. t.t
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On January 29 2012 16:12 CobaltBlu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:46 Jealous wrote:On January 29 2012 15:14 krndandaman wrote:On January 29 2012 13:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm going to lose so hard. -_-x same here, never even played the maps i have to play Hey man I said I'd practice with you ^^ You're supposed to practice with me instead because we're clanmates. I haven't gotten anyone to practice with me on these maps yet either. t.t
I'll practice with you too!
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hey so my group, today possible to play the game? i will be on still , pm me
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On January 29 2012 16:35 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:12 CobaltBlu wrote:On January 29 2012 15:46 Jealous wrote:On January 29 2012 15:14 krndandaman wrote:On January 29 2012 13:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm going to lose so hard. -_-x same here, never even played the maps i have to play Hey man I said I'd practice with you ^^ You're supposed to practice with me instead because we're clanmates. I haven't gotten anyone to practice with me on these maps yet either. t.t I'll practice with you too!
No way man he's in my group! j/k It's nice of you to practice with everyone since it's so hard to find games on these maps.
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Anyone from my group want to play today? just pm me here or on iccup.
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On January 30 2012 04:34 Lumire wrote:
Anyone from my group want to play today? just pm me here or on iccup.
Same. Where are you people? ಠ_ಠ
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Still waiting for [KDV]Mewka to respond to my PM's or see him online.
Asked profprotoss to play twice online both times he's been unable to play. Once he logged off, second time he said he's playing 2v2 then never responded.
It's no problem just showing my effort to play the matches so if they don't get played its their forfeit not mine.
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hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing
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On January 30 2012 06:37 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:13 ninazerg wrote:On January 30 2012 04:34 Lumire wrote:
Anyone from my group want to play today? just pm me here or on iccup. Same. Where are you people? ಠ_ಠ well we never decided on a time lol you guys wanna set one up now? or just add me on iccup "dsyxelic" and asking me to play when im on works too
How about now, this very second?
Ugh, I've literally been on all day. I have you added, Dsyxelic, so I'll be waiting for you later on tonight and tomorrow.
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On January 30 2012 06:48 johny23 wrote:
Still waiting for [KDV]Mewka to respond to my PM's or see him online.
Asked profprotoss to play twice online both times he's been unable to play. Once he logged off, second time he said he's playing 2v2 then never responded.
It's no problem just showing my effort to play the matches so if they don't get played its their forfeit not mine.
1. [KDV]Mewka didn't respond to me either
2. I was in game when you asked me, I couldn't respond due to all the action.
Well we just played...where do I report BM?
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On January 30 2012 08:43 Prof. Protoss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:48 johny23 wrote:
Still waiting for [KDV]Mewka to respond to my PM's or see him online.
Asked profprotoss to play twice online both times he's been unable to play. Once he logged off, second time he said he's playing 2v2 then never responded.
It's no problem just showing my effort to play the matches so if they don't get played its their forfeit not mine. 1. [KDV]Mewka didn't respond to me either 2. I was in game when you asked me, I couldn't respond due to all the action. Well we just played...where do I report BM?
You can report to me, but I probably won't enforce it
EVERYONE SEND ME THEIR REPLAYS PLEASE! If it's easier, you can send them via TL as well.
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On January 30 2012 06:37 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:13 ninazerg wrote:On January 30 2012 04:34 Lumire wrote:
Anyone from my group want to play today? just pm me here or on iccup. Same. Where are you people? ಠ_ಠ well we never decided on a time lol you guys wanna set one up now? or just add me on iccup "dsyxelic" and asking me to play when im on works too
Hi,
Just added you. But I may wanna play a few times on that map first thought ;p
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I just want to say this right now, johny23 is actually the most entertaining player in this tournament and I hope he makes it out of his group. Please follow his games for the pool player stream.
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i am entertaining too. please follow me =P
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On January 30 2012 12:08 S2Glow wrote:
i am entertaining too. please follow me =P
Dude, you don't understand. I have never obsed so many games from 1 player consecutively in my life. This has easily been the best day of watching non-professional Brood War for me, period.
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Are we going to vote on who gets followed in each group or will that be determined by the tournament coordinators?
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On January 30 2012 12:04 Jealous wrote:
I just want to say this right now, johny23 is actually the most entertaining player in this tournament and I hope he makes it out of his group. Please follow his games for the pool player stream.
I am -mantoss- and I go 2 gate zeal every game. Is that entertaining ?
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On January 30 2012 12:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:08 S2Glow wrote:
i am entertaining too. please follow me =P Dude, you don't understand. I have never obsed so many games from 1 player consecutively in my life. This has easily been the best day of watching non-professional Brood War for me, period.
I'm sure that must be a huge honor.
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On January 30 2012 12:27 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:11 Jealous wrote:On January 30 2012 12:08 S2Glow wrote:
i am entertaining too. please follow me =P Dude, you don't understand. I have never obsed so many games from 1 player consecutively in my life. This has easily been the best day of watching non-professional Brood War for me, period. I'm sure that must be a huge honor.
It doesn't have to be an honor for it to be a fact that his games are entertaining as hell. I don't want to spoil anything or upload his reps during a tourney, so you just have to see for yourself. I want to share this joy with others, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?! This isn't a reason to shit on me!
Also, puppykiller, you used to be my fan... How did things go so wrong?
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On January 30 2012 08:43 Prof. Protoss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:48 johny23 wrote:
Still waiting for [KDV]Mewka to respond to my PM's or see him online.
Asked profprotoss to play twice online both times he's been unable to play. Once he logged off, second time he said he's playing 2v2 then never responded.
It's no problem just showing my effort to play the matches so if they don't get played its their forfeit not mine. 1. [KDV]Mewka didn't respond to me either 2. I was in game when you asked me, I couldn't respond due to all the action. Well we just played...where do I report BM?
Shimy he's reporting me and trying to get be banned for saying three total words. Also it wasn't even in the game it was in chat. Is this a banable offence? Please just give me a warning and I will tone it down
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heheh wait for my game too. will be quite entertaining =P
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On January 30 2012 07:17 S2Glow wrote:
hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing
That is a too late for me... unless we play on Friday (Saturday morning in my time).
Are you available anytime else, say around 11:00-15:00 kst any day?
Also iplaythings when's good for you?
EDIT: Can't play tonight.
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On January 30 2012 12:38 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 08:43 Prof. Protoss wrote:On January 30 2012 06:48 johny23 wrote:
Still waiting for [KDV]Mewka to respond to my PM's or see him online.
Asked profprotoss to play twice online both times he's been unable to play. Once he logged off, second time he said he's playing 2v2 then never responded.
It's no problem just showing my effort to play the matches so if they don't get played its their forfeit not mine. 1. [KDV]Mewka didn't respond to me either 2. I was in game when you asked me, I couldn't respond due to all the action. Well we just played...where do I report BM? Shimy he's reporting me and trying to get be banned for saying three total words. Also it wasn't even in the game it was in chat. Is this a banable offence? Please just give me a warning and I will tone it down
You won't be banned lol What were the words though?
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On January 30 2012 12:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:08 S2Glow wrote:
i am entertaining too. please follow me =P Dude, you don't understand. I have never obsed so many games from 1 player consecutively in my life. This has easily been the best day of watching non-professional Brood War for me, period.
I'll watch his reps and check them out. If I find them entertaining, I shall get them casted :D But since you seem pretty psyched and are hyping it, I kind of HAVE to cast them Although you could be trolling us all...
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On January 30 2012 12:11 tryummm wrote:
Are we going to vote on who gets followed in each group or will that be determined by the tournament coordinators?
They will be determined by the coordinators, but you can certainly make your plea! (Not spoiling the tournament, of course)
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On January 30 2012 07:17 S2Glow wrote:
hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing
i don't really have time to play until friday/saturday/sunday. My timezone is PST so anytime during the weekend should be fine for me.
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On January 30 2012 12:51 S2Glow wrote:
heheh wait for my game too. will be quite entertaining =P
It better be amazing
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On January 30 2012 13:40 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 07:17 S2Glow wrote:
hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing i don't really have time to play until friday/saturday/sunday. My timezone is PST so anytime during the weekend should be fine for me.
This is an issue since the tournament Ro16 begins on that Saturday. If you cannot play your pool play games I need to know o.o
EDIT:It's only 3 games, so maybe you could set up certain obscure times to play?
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On January 30 2012 13:30 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 07:17 S2Glow wrote:
hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing That is a too late for me... unless we play on Friday (Saturday morning in my time). Are you available anytime else, say around 11:00-15:00 kst any day? Also iplaythings when's good for you? EDIT: Can't play tonight.
Come on guys! Make a little sacrifice for this good sir
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ZNF fighting! Didn't know you played Terran at the C level :D
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On January 30 2012 13:41 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 13:40 coolcrimefighter wrote:On January 30 2012 07:17 S2Glow wrote:
hey group H , drywater and just.. when are we gonna play? give me a pm. the best for me to online is around is around 20~23:00 kst. give me your timing i don't really have time to play until friday/saturday/sunday. My timezone is PST so anytime during the weekend should be fine for me. This is an issue since the tournament Ro16 begins on that Saturday. If you cannot play your pool play games I need to know o.o EDIT:It's only 3 games, so maybe you could set up certain obscure times to play?
ok i have time for like 2 hours tuesday 6pm and i'll probably have some time on thursday too but that seems too late so I'd prefer to play on tuesday
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Perhaps we all just on Tuesday instead of arranging on different times?
You sure are busy o.o
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On January 30 2012 14:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Perhaps we all just on Tuesday instead of arranging on different times?
You sure are busy o.o
yo many midterms this week
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ok so what time? i can sacrifice a bit by waking up early ... 11~15 kst is on my school time. unless you want to play with me with lag ( i can on at school but i use phone internet )
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Alright my laptop died yesterday and I'm currently on a friend's. If I can get a new one or get this one fixed I will still get my group games finished but if not I will have to drop. I'll let you know ASAP.
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group H , tomorrow 13:00 kst ~ 15:00kst we will play our game. please dont be late :D
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On January 30 2012 18:10 Shotcoder wrote:
Alright my laptop died yesterday and I'm currently on a friend's. If I can get a new one or get this one fixed I will still get my group games finished but if not I will have to drop. I'll let you know ASAP.
hope u come back with new one
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On January 30 2012 13:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
ZNF fighting! Didn't know you played Terran at the C level :D
Thanks but I'ma disappoint. ><
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On January 30 2012 23:32 S2Glow wrote:
group H , tomorrow 13:00 kst ~ 15:00kst we will play our game. please dont be late :D
I think I can make it but ccf might not be able to. Those midterms~~
EDIT: can we play 24 hours later from what you suggested?
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On January 31 2012 02:41 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 23:32 S2Glow wrote:
group H , tomorrow 13:00 kst ~ 15:00kst we will play our game. please dont be late :D I think I can make it but ccf might not be able to. Those midterms~~ EDIT: can we play 24 hours later from what you suggested?
Wait, are you justolamas or drywater ? o.O
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I'm Drywater, and Justolamas also said it's better for him on the edited timespot.
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Kiante, when are you ok to play?
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On January 31 2012 04:58 Wala.Revolution wrote:
I'm Drywater, and Justolamas also said it's better for him on the edited timespot.
Kay, I'll try to be online at that time then.
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[KDV]mewka if you read this thread please respond to our groups PMS(pun intended) to set up times
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On January 31 2012 07:52 johny23 wrote:
[KDV]mewka if you read this thread please respond to our groups PMS(pun intended) to set up times
Yes, please answer to our PMs
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Probe won't play me until feb 3rd since he just got a new keyboard.
[SCB]Terranos hasn't been online for over a week.
Cocky hasn't been on sGs.Cocky or Cocky since august.
None of them except for probe have responded on iccup/thread.
Uhh....
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On January 31 2012 09:19 Lumire wrote:
Probe won't play me until feb 3rd since he just got a new keyboard.
[SCB]Terranos hasn't been online for over a week.
Cocky hasn't been on sGs.Cocky or Cocky since august.
None of them except for probe have responded on iccup/thread.
Uhh....
I've messaged Cocky and he responded O_o
Message from Cocky:
Yeah I'm still alive, thx for asking. xD
I just had a very busy month because of final exams, but I will definitely play my pool games.
Thx for the reminder.
Probe doesn't need to wait that long if it's just a new keyboard
and Terranos.... I'll message him.
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Oh ok thanks, didn't realize it was already being taken care of.
Don't sweat it, just wanted to make sure i wont end up with any w/o'vers xD
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On January 31 2012 04:58 Wala.Revolution wrote:
I'm Drywater, and Justolamas also said it's better for him on the edited timespot.
then i will play you on today time spot spot first , tomorrow then i will play him. is that okay? O_O so 13~15 kst okay?
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Dang... I've watched some pool C games and have decided: Instead of following 1 person from each group, I'm going to select the most entertaining games and have them casted O_O LonelyProbe-- was right.
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Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together?
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On January 31 2012 10:16 Shimy wrote:
Dang... I've watched some pool C games and have decided: Instead of following 1 person from each group, I'm going to select the most entertaining games and have them casted O_O LonelyProbe-- was right.
Actually lonleyprobe-- was referring to some other games of johny, and he didn't exactly mean "entertaining" in a positive sense.
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On January 31 2012 10:43 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 10:16 Shimy wrote:
Dang... I've watched some pool C games and have decided: Instead of following 1 person from each group, I'm going to select the most entertaining games and have them casted O_O LonelyProbe-- was right. Actually lonleyprobe-- was referring to some other games of johny, and he didn't exactly mean "entertaining" in a positive sense.
Oh LOL Well either way, a game I have of his is definitely getting casted
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On January 31 2012 10:43 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 10:16 Shimy wrote:
Dang... I've watched some pool C games and have decided: Instead of following 1 person from each group, I'm going to select the most entertaining games and have them casted O_O LonelyProbe-- was right. Actually lonleyprobe-- was referring to some other games of johny, and he didn't exactly mean "entertaining" in a positive sense.
False. I was referring to every game I've seen so far, and entertainment is entertainment regardless of flavor.
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s2 if you haven't seen Justolamas and I can't make it today. Tomorrow at same time please. Iplaythings also has said he would try to be online around then as well.
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If anyone wants vP practice, I'm online right now under sGs.BaBo
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On January 31 2012 10:43 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 10:16 Shimy wrote:
Dang... I've watched some pool C games and have decided: Instead of following 1 person from each group, I'm going to select the most entertaining games and have them casted O_O LonelyProbe-- was right. Actually lonleyprobe-- was referring to some other games of johny, and he didn't exactly mean "entertaining" in a positive sense.
Lumire, why must you bm me? I beat you 3-0. Go ahead and make excuses. I was trying to be gm but you guys just can't resist trashing me can you.
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What, how did i bm you? i was just explaining what he meant...
Are you just looking for an excuse to flaunt your BO wins in zvz when you went random or something?
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On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together?
I'm quite often online. Evening KST is the best time for me. I've already added you as a friend on Iccup, you should do the same !
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Hey guys! I'm pleased I'm getting games in, but continue to finish up the rest of your pool play games! So far we've some interesting and entertaining replays sent in and we plan on casting some either Wednesday or Thursday of this week! So keep sending them in and let me know if you cannot get into contact with anyone! If this is the case, I am prepared to replace people. I will try to replace the person with the same race so your training wasn't all for not! :D
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I am set to play lumire sometime this week.
Cocky said he can play after Wednesdays due to exam.
No answer from Terranos though..
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*****Ok, since I need a good amount of games to get casted, I will now accept all the games you have played. Although you can now send me single replays, please continue to finish ALL of your games*****
Shout outs to Pool A who sent me every single replay on the first day they could
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What do we do if a player doesn't react to TL-net PMs?
[KDV]Mewka in our group...I guess w.o.?
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Who´s gonna cast this, and when? I would love to catch some games.
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On February 01 2012 05:02 Prof. Protoss wrote:
What do we do if a player doesn't react to TL-net PMs?
[KDV]Mewka in our group...I guess w.o.?
I'll see about replacing him if he doesn't respond by the end of the day.
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On February 01 2012 05:32 Skeggaba wrote:
Who´s gonna cast this, and when? I would love to catch some games.
We're planning on casting the Pool play games on Thursday, and the rest of the dates are listed in the OP. As for who, Pool Play games are going to be done by Artanis[xp] and LRM)NoOne. L_Master has the Ro16 onto the finals )
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Ok sweet, they´re not featured i guess, so ill just check it out "manually". Circa what time will the cast be?
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On February 01 2012 07:07 Skeggaba wrote:Ok sweet, they´re not featured i guess, so ill just check it out "manually". Circa what time will the cast be?
Sometime in the afternoon. I'll be sure to post a day beforehand (Or try to) of when it is :D Thanks for your interest!
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On January 31 2012 13:29 Lumire wrote:
What, how did i bm you? i was just explaining what he meant...
Are you just looking for an excuse to flaunt your BO wins in zvz when you went random or something?
You lost ZvsZ twice and PvZ once.
You just said
"he didn't exactly mean "entertaining" in a positive sense" ... that's bm
EDIT: The only reasoned I mentioned it is because you bm me. Were you just looking for an excuse to make an ill-will comment about me?
As far as skill is concerned your probably better then me 1v1 all things considered. I need to practice 1v1 a lot
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Can you tell to me how that was bm? he was being sarcastic and i knew because i was there and i just pointed it out...
I dont get it o.o
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He already bm's me to the max so I expect nothing else. So if you really werent bm im sorry but it seemed that way to me.
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Awesome news!!! Helping out with this tournament is no other then LRM)NoOne!!!!! He's offered to help cast both Pool Play and the Ro16 through to the finals!
Keep sending those replays in! :D
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Shimy can I still wait for all 3 reps or must I send in the two I played?
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On February 01 2012 09:20 johny23 wrote:
Shimy can I still wait for all 3 reps or must I send in the two I played?
You can send them in! I was gonna make people wait, but because I want games to cast, I'm allowing people to send in their reps :D I now have a system of keeping them all organized haha I'll even release the replay pack after the tourney
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On February 01 2012 04:36 Shimy wrote:Shout outs to Pool A who sent me every single replay on the first day they could
I had the pleasure of playing with what seems to be the most GM pool in the league so far haha. Thank you once again to those in my pool for being so damn chill about everything ^^ Pleasure playing games with you.
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On February 01 2012 09:10 Lumire wrote:
Can you tell to me how that was bm? he was being sarcastic and i knew because i was there and i just pointed it out...
I dont get it o.o
Why do you speak for me? I truly think his reps would be best for broadcasting for entertainment value.
firebathero?
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Shimy,
do you have back-up player incase shotcoder cant find his solution about his computer?
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On February 01 2012 12:52 Supremacy wrote:
Shimy,
do you have back-up player incase shotcoder cant find his solution about his computer?
Yes! I need to know for a fact that he cannot play though. Or if he hasn't responded within the past couple of days haha
I'm gonna make some changes tomorrow if no one responds tonight T_T My hope would be to have no walkovers.
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s2glow and iplaythings, justolamas and I are online.
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On February 01 2012 13:39 Wala.Revolution wrote:
s2glow and iplaythings, justolamas and I are online.
Then play :D It's awesome that you are all online at the same time! Props to this pool for getting things down
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On February 01 2012 13:00 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 12:52 Supremacy wrote:
Shimy,
do you have back-up player incase shotcoder cant find his solution about his computer? Yes! I need to know for a fact that he cannot play though. Or if he hasn't responded within the past couple of days haha I'm gonna make some changes tomorrow if no one responds tonight T_T My hope would be to have no walkovers.
i really hope so too.
and is it possible to change the Ro16 time *IF* i get chance to play Ro16
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On January 31 2012 10:22 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together? add and try to play whenever we're on together if you're very active if not lets set up a time
Are you active on the account dsyxelic? I added you but haven't seen you on.
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On February 01 2012 14:49 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 14:24 CobaltBlu wrote:On January 31 2012 10:22 krndandaman wrote:On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together? add and try to play whenever we're on together if you're very active if not lets set up a time Are you active on the account dsyxelic? I added you but haven't seen you on. i havent been on in 2 days. are you gonna be on tomorrow? if so i can play at around 7-10
I'll be in class tomorrow until 7 EST and I'll eat dinner after that so expect to see me on some time between 8-10pm EST?
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On February 01 2012 14:54 CobaltBlu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 14:49 krndandaman wrote:On February 01 2012 14:24 CobaltBlu wrote:On January 31 2012 10:22 krndandaman wrote:On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together? add and try to play whenever we're on together if you're very active if not lets set up a time Are you active on the account dsyxelic? I added you but haven't seen you on. i havent been on in 2 days. are you gonna be on tomorrow? if so i can play at around 7-10 I'll be in class tomorrow until 7 EST and I'll eat dinner after that so expect to see me on some time between 8-10pm EST?
I'm online now and will probably be in front of the computer for the next 8 hours, probably afk op teamliquid, so feel free to PM me here if you wanna play, both krndandaman and CobaltBlu (I'm -mantoss- just in case)
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iplaythings, the rest of the group has already played. I'm tight on schedule so can we play tomorrow around similar time? 11-13 KST.
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so i send the replay to shimy email right? btw change my race to zerg. i put wrong. people complaining. lol
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On February 01 2012 16:35 Wala.Revolution wrote:
iplaythings, the rest of the group has already played. I'm tight on schedule so can we play tomorrow around similar time? 11-13 KST.
You do realize that I live in Europe right? 11-13 KST is 3-5 AM for me, that's where I have to sleep to not fuck up my sleep schedule, I'll be trying my best to be online as much as I am able to but scheduling matches in that time is just in no way possible for me.
I'll be online for 23-4 KST..
I suppose this happens when people in Denmark get's matches scheduled with people from the US, I don't wanna take school of because of this tournament, I am willing to give up other past time things but if the scheduling is impossible unless it has to be in those morning hours I'll have to forfeit it.
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oh if you're still online I'll play now
edit:on iccup as drywater
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On February 01 2012 16:35 S2Glow wrote:
so i send the replay to shimy email right? btw change my race to zerg. i put wrong. people complaining. lol
I can change your thing to Zerg since I think we all know you play zerg lol (Or at least that's what you stream.) And yes, please send me your reps there or on TL. Which ever one you find easyier
Also: I haven't received a bunch of reps yet and I know a few of you have played games! Even if you haven't played all three, please send them in! I need some to get casted! :D
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On February 02 2012 00:50 S2Glow wrote:
cast my game =P !!
I'm watching them now to see if they are worthy
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@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play.
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On February 02 2012 00:50 S2Glow wrote:
cast my game =P !!
BM
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S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted
Come on people! Send in those reps!
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On February 02 2012 02:02 Shimy wrote:S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted Come on people! Send in those reps!
I hope you do not mean my game vs him
+ Show Spoiler +cus that was fucking silly
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To pool C: I have received word from Mewka!!!! I told him to play you guys and to PM you guys! Please let me know if he hasn't done this by the end of the day.
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On February 02 2012 02:13 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 02:02 Shimy wrote:S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted Come on people! Send in those reps! I hope you do not mean my game vs him + Show Spoiler +cus that was fucking silly
It wasn't too bad But he had some other good ones!
Also I need your replays
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On February 02 2012 02:33 Shimy wrote:
To pool C: I have received word from Mewka!!!! I told him to play you guys and to PM you guys! Please let me know if he hasn't done this by the end of the day.
he PM'd me two hours ago...I answered and hope we can play today
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On February 02 2012 02:34 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 02:13 Iplaythings wrote:On February 02 2012 02:02 Shimy wrote:S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted Come on people! Send in those reps! I hope you do not mean my game vs him + Show Spoiler +cus that was fucking silly It wasn't too bad But he had some other good ones! Also I need your replays
+ Show Spoiler +I'm a sore looser when it comes to being cheesed, believe me T.T
I dont have them since I havent played drywater or justolamas yet
I'll play drywater tomorrow morning but idk about justolamas
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On February 02 2012 01:42 endy wrote:
@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play.
Yeah, I've had Dsyxelic on my friend list for like a week and haven't seen him on once, despite giving him a very broad window of when I would be online, and I literally spent a whole day waiting for Cobalt and asking sGs people if they knew where he was.
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On February 02 2012 02:02 Shimy wrote:S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted Come on people! Send in those reps!
I hope you don't mean mine either.
+ Show Spoiler +I didn't even know I was going to be playing pvz so I forgot how to play forge fe.
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lol@freaking out about 2 day absence. Well hey krn if you get sniped by w.o that's good for me... I win the tour in your place :D
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Ok I got the clear that I'm getting a new laptop tomorrow so whenever my group wants to get together just add NoisE[AoV] on ICCup or send me a PM here. I'm really looking forward to playing you all!
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Mewka responded to me and I responded back to when I can play. I think he sleeps or works when I play. I can normally be on week days from 5:30ishpm EST to 10:30ish PM est (maybe little later if its the only way to play).
EDIT: Me and Sg's.pie still haven't played him. I was on last fri, sat, sun and this mon and tues looking for him. I am making every humanely possible attempt to play.
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Where are the results? I want to know who to make side bets on.
edit: found them, not updated?
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On February 02 2012 09:19 dRaW wrote:
Where are the results? I want to know who to make side bets on.
edit: found them, not updated?
They will be revealed after the cast I think.
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On February 02 2012 03:13 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 02:02 Shimy wrote:S2Glow's games were actually good games O_O I'mma have to get at least 1 of them casted Come on people! Send in those reps! I hope you don't mean mine either. + Show Spoiler +I didn't even know I was going to be playing pvz so I forgot how to play forge fe.
lol , so before my game you forgot how to play forge fe? then go 1gate or 2gate. O_O
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On February 02 2012 09:19 dRaW wrote:
Where are the results? I want to know who to make side bets on.
edit: found them, not updated?
Yeah we'll tell you after tomorrow. I thought I said this in the OP, but I'll try to make it more clear
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I am going to be playing all my pool games on Friday or before that if I happen to be online at the same time as members of my group
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On February 02 2012 07:00 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 03:09 ninazerg wrote:On February 02 2012 01:42 endy wrote:
@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play. Yeah, I've had Dsyxelic on my friend list for like a week and haven't seen him on once, despite giving him a very broad window of when I would be online, and I literally spent a whole day waiting for Cobalt and asking sGs people if they knew where he was. Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 01:42 endy wrote:
@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play. Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 14:49 krndandaman wrote:On February 01 2012 14:24 CobaltBlu wrote:On January 31 2012 10:22 krndandaman wrote:On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together? add and try to play whenever we're on together if you're very active if not lets set up a time Are you active on the account dsyxelic? I added you but haven't seen you on. i havent been on in 2 days. are you gonna be on tomorrow? if so i can play at around 7-10 my goodness, I only haven't been on in 2 days, not a week. i'm an inactive player so I only go on when I need to. now, I'll be going on today but I can't stay on for hours just waiting around. Cobalt, I'll play you at 8PM EST. i'll be going off at 9 if I don't see you until then (I have to go somewhere from 9:15-11PM). Nina and -mantoss-, i'll be available at around 6:30-8PM EST as well to play with you guys. I'll just play whoever I see first. If that time doesn't work for you lets set up a time tomorrow. Geez, if you guys are getting that worried about playing the games lets just set a concrete time to play. Whoever doesn't show up can be W.O'd then.
Hmmm yesterday when typing /where dsyxelic it said "User last seen on Jan 29th". Anyway I'll try to be online between 6:30-8PM EST, but it's like 7.30AM-9AM for me, exactly when I'm supposed to go to work, so I really can't promise I'll be there.
I can host, so don't worry about that.
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On February 02 2012 14:00 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 12:39 endy wrote:On February 02 2012 07:00 krndandaman wrote:On February 02 2012 03:09 ninazerg wrote:On February 02 2012 01:42 endy wrote:
@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play. Yeah, I've had Dsyxelic on my friend list for like a week and haven't seen him on once, despite giving him a very broad window of when I would be online, and I literally spent a whole day waiting for Cobalt and asking sGs people if they knew where he was. On February 02 2012 01:42 endy wrote:
@CobaltBlu, krndandaman :
when do you guys play ? I've literally been online all day. According to iccup, krndandaman you haven't been online since Jan 29th, which is when we were supposed to start pool games. I'm online very often, usually from 10AM to 2 AM KST, except lunch breaks/transportation, so please PM me when you can play. On February 01 2012 14:49 krndandaman wrote:On February 01 2012 14:24 CobaltBlu wrote:On January 31 2012 10:22 krndandaman wrote:On January 31 2012 10:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
Would the other players in the group like to send me a PM about when would be a good time for them to play or would you like me to just add you and try and play whenever we're on together? add and try to play whenever we're on together if you're very active if not lets set up a time Are you active on the account dsyxelic? I added you but haven't seen you on. i havent been on in 2 days. are you gonna be on tomorrow? if so i can play at around 7-10 my goodness, I only haven't been on in 2 days, not a week. i'm an inactive player so I only go on when I need to. now, I'll be going on today but I can't stay on for hours just waiting around. Cobalt, I'll play you at 8PM EST. i'll be going off at 9 if I don't see you until then (I have to go somewhere from 9:15-11PM). Nina and -mantoss-, i'll be available at around 6:30-8PM EST as well to play with you guys. I'll just play whoever I see first. If that time doesn't work for you lets set up a time tomorrow. Geez, if you guys are getting that worried about playing the games lets just set a concrete time to play. Whoever doesn't show up can be W.O'd then. Hmmm yesterday when typing /where dsyxelic it said "User last seen on Jan 29th". Anyway I'll try to be online between 6:30-8PM EST, but it's like 7.30AM-9AM for me, exactly when I'm supposed to go to work, so I really can't promise I'll be there. I can host, so don't worry about that. what are some times you can definitely commit to make? pool games are due 2/2 so i feel like we need to set a concrete time so we dont have 1 person waiting for like 2 hours and have nobody come and be unable to claim a W.O. ill try to get on around 6:30-8 tomorrow, ill prob be afking in channel checking every now and then
If you're online now we can play. I'll be online for the next 10 hours.
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ATTENTION!!!!
A selection of the Pool Play games will be casted tomorrow, Feb. 2 @ 1:00PM EST (-5 GMT)!
Be sure to tune in!
These games were the best ones sent in so don't complain LOL I'm sorry if you get your losses casted, but it's better than seeing some of the other really one-sided games. Thank you.
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Just sent the other two replays ! Pool E done as far as I know !
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Thank you guys so much! I think you both know what lies ahead Congratz
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On February 02 2012 15:17 Shimy wrote:Thank you guys so much! I think you both know what lies ahead Congratz
is there still hope for people on the alternative list? Or should I stop logging, day in and day out hoping for a that PM. xD
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On February 02 2012 15:53 ZuCrow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:17 Shimy wrote:Thank you guys so much! I think you both know what lies ahead Congratz is there still hope for people on the alternative list? Or should I stop logging, day in and day out hoping for a that PM. xD
^ This. T_T I'm regretting playing so silly the other day whenever I check out this thread.
panda and Neko fighting!
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On February 02 2012 15:57 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:53 ZuCrow wrote:On February 02 2012 15:17 Shimy wrote:Thank you guys so much! I think you both know what lies ahead Congratz is there still hope for people on the alternative list? Or should I stop logging, day in and day out hoping for a that PM. xD ^ This. T_T I'm regretting playing so silly the other day whenever I check out this thread. panda and Neko fighting!
:O you're out ?!
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we should get this to teamliquid calender O_O ?
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sent the reps
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On February 02 2012 17:03 Iplaythings wrote:sent the reps
I watched your game vs. justolamas.
very entertaining.
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Sent replays too. Can we get a confirmation if you received them?
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On February 02 2012 18:22 don_kyuhote wrote:I watched your game vs. justolamas. very entertaining.
+ Show Spoiler +Thanks, I'm happy I atleast had one good game despite some poor macro and missclicking burrow key
edit: what how are you watching it? I'm pretty sure I only sent it to shimy
unless you found the reps on rep depot or were obsing it i suppose, lol
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I was watching via wala.revolution's stream
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On February 02 2012 18:44 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Sent replays too. Can we get a confirmation if you received them?
Got them
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On February 02 2012 15:53 ZuCrow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:17 Shimy wrote:Thank you guys so much! I think you both know what lies ahead Congratz is there still hope for people on the alternative list? Or should I stop logging, day in and day out hoping for a that PM. xD
I have some news for you since the guy first on the list hasn't replied
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*****POOL D!!!!!*****
Your pool has had some changes due to SCBTerranos not talking ever
Welcome your new pool mate: Zucrow
As you guys know, you have only a day left to play him so get to doing that
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On February 03 2012 00:10 Shimy wrote:*****POOL D!!!!!***** Your pool has had some changes due to SCBTerranos not talking ever Welcome your new pool mate: Zucrow. As you guys know, you have only a day left to play him so get to doing that
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You guys should definitely get the broadcast on the calendar ): MORE BW EVENTS!!
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On February 03 2012 00:26 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 00:10 Shimy wrote:*****POOL D!!!!!***** Your pool has had some changes due to SCBTerranos not talking ever Welcome your new pool mate: Zucrow. As you guys know, you have only a day left to play him so get to doing that
Thank you LOL
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On February 03 2012 00:43 Jealous wrote:
You guys should definitely get the broadcast on the calendar ): MORE BW EVENTS!!
I got the finals on the calander, but to get the rounds on the calander would have to mean everyone showing up at one place at the right time o.o Which is tough to do... So I might have to be a little forgiving when it comes to people showing up since I'm not really offering them anything for them playing LOL
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On February 03 2012 01:04 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 00:43 Jealous wrote:
You guys should definitely get the broadcast on the calendar ): MORE BW EVENTS!! I got the finals on the calander, but to get the rounds on the calander would have to mean everyone showing up at one place at the right time o.o Which is tough to do... So I might have to be a little forgiving when it comes to people showing up since I'm not really offering them anything for them playing LOL
I meant the broadcast of the reps!
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On February 03 2012 00:10 Shimy wrote:*****POOL D!!!!!***** Your pool has had some changes due to SCBTerranos not talking ever Welcome your new pool mate: Zucrow As you guys know, you have only a day left to play him so get to doing that
how about Our Pool F?
shotcoder said he'll be coming today, but i have little time tonight, i might not available to make it
how are you going to settle this
p.s i waited him for several days
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Worst possible time for me to watch unfortunately, hope it goes on throughout the night so i at least can catch some games
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I thought it was 1 pm EST? o_O According to shimy...
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ATTENTION!!!!
STARTING IN 15 MINUTES!!!
We have a special selection of games and our casters are ready! Please tune in to see if you got one of your games casted!
Stream
P.S. In advance, I'd like to apologize to Fold o.o
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Hahaha fold deserved what he got ^^;
Can we get a URL pl0x?
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uhhh im playing all my games on friday. For some reason it happened to happen... donno what to say. The replays will be in before 12 am. Its gonna be lame though cuz my parents are being nazis with the internet so if i cant reason with them i might have to play at a coffee shop or some gay shit.
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On February 03 2012 05:17 krndandaman wrote:
which matches are going to be broadcasted? if mine are broadcasted i want to watch :D
dunno if they are entertaining though.. definitely 2 of them were strange
He's casting your game vs cobalt right now. (just started)
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LOL KIANTE LOL
Duuuude that was my favorite game so far besides perhaps the upcoming Johny23
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This is cruel and unusual punishment, shimy.
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On February 03 2012 06:56 Harem wrote:
This is cruel and unusual punishment, shimy.
The conversation at the end is what made it worth it.
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On February 03 2012 06:56 Harem wrote:
This is cruel and unusual punishment, shimy.
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Is the cast already over?
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Yeah, hope you guys enjoyed it. Please send all hatemail to Shimy and lovemail to me.
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Will there be any vods on youtube or so?
I have lag issues with twitch.tv since a few weeks :[
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On February 03 2012 07:41 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Will there be any vods on youtube or so?
I have lag issues with twitch.tv since a few weeks :[
y so smurf?
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On February 03 2012 07:41 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Will there be any vods on youtube or so?
I have lag issues with twitch.tv since a few weeks :[
Afraid not, I didn't record anything other than the things that automatically get uploaded on justin.tv. If there's an easy way to put it on youtube from there I'll do it, but I don't believe there is
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On February 03 2012 07:12 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Is the cast already over?
i can't believe they casted our game.
For anyone curious about what I was thinking in the JustoLamas vs Drywater game, I faked a super fast third to provoke him to 1. push out and try to kill me 2. push out to take a quick third of his own
he did neither and just stayed in his base so he made me look like a dumbass trying to play 2 base protoss vs 2 base terran.
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On February 03 2012 08:17 coolcrimefighter wrote:i can't believe they casted our game. For anyone curious about what I was thinking in the JustoLamas vs Drywater game, I faked a super fast third to provoke him to 1. push out and try to kill me 2. push out to take a quick third of his own he did neither and just stayed in his base so he made me look like a dumbass trying to play 2 base protoss vs 2 base terran.
Lol yea that game... Haha. I think it was chosen because of his harass pwnage and your epic fail. My game vs. thundersapien (also a PvT) was much more back-and-forth and dynamic in terms of engagements, but didn't get chosen, so that's why I'm assuming yours got picked like comedic relief haha xD
On February 03 2012 07:36 krndandaman wrote:
do we have a full list of results? wondering how all the games turned out
All the games aren't done yet =P
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On February 03 2012 08:17 coolcrimefighter wrote:i can't believe they casted our game. For anyone curious about what I was thinking in the JustoLamas vs Drywater game, I faked a super fast third to provoke him to 1. push out and try to kill me 2. push out to take a quick third of his own he did neither and just stayed in his base so he made me look like a dumbass trying to play 2 base protoss vs 2 base terran.
I said this in the cast, so no worries. ^^
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Justolamas and I play each other often, and I sometimes do a fast 3/4 fact push from him. Since I lost to him many times when he just speedzeal'd me as I tried to take a third I opted for a late never taking a 3rd and just harass.
You really should've had robo though.
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On February 03 2012 08:02 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 07:41 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Will there be any vods on youtube or so?
I have lag issues with twitch.tv since a few weeks :[ y so smurf?
!?
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I posted the results I have so far in the spoiler pools! Please, people who I don't have games from, play those games/send me the reps! >.> If I have made any mistakes, please let me know :D
(Currently making the Ro16)
Also, I hope everyone knows that the Ro16 is being played live and casted live on the date and time listed in the OP! So that means this Saturday at 7PM EST (-5:GMT)(Being there 15 minutes before hand helps a ton as well). Please contact me via PM if you cannot play your matches at this time and we will see if you can play them earlier (Depending on how nice your opponent is/if he can play them before that scheduled time.)
Now surely not all Ro16 games will get casted (that would be AT LEAST 32 games since it's a Bo3), but I hope to get a few of them casted and the people that are there on time certainly help with that! :D
Thank you and good luck!
-Shimy
EDIT: Also, huge thanks to our cast today! Artanis[xp] and LRM)NoOne deserve a huge thanks for their awesome job even though some of the games weren't the most amusing to cast. At least that last one made up for it all :D
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So this is 1AM in germany? These timezones always confuse me. If so I won't be able to play at that time, I plan going to a birthday party on saturday. Could you add the event to the calendar so I can see when it is? T_T
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On February 03 2012 10:14 Prof. Protoss wrote:
So this is 1AM in germany? These timezones always confuse me. If so I won't be able to play at that time, I plan going to a birthday party on saturday. Could you add the event to the calendar so I can see when it is? T_T
Let me google that for you...
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
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I somewhat want to cast the games too if those two casters can't cast everything. I'll be free this weekend.
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On February 03 2012 10:14 Prof. Protoss wrote:
So this is 1AM in germany? These timezones always confuse me. If so I won't be able to play at that time, I plan going to a birthday party on saturday. Could you add the event to the calendar so I can see when it is? T_T
I'm glad you made mention of this. We'll have to talk to whoever you play and see if they'll allow you to play them earlier that day
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Panda is really gosu, not that suprised he beat kiante who's been inactive for quite a while
Watched the vods -.- so painful. Why Why cast my games...
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On February 03 2012 11:33 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 09:54 Shimy wrote:
I posted the results I have so far in the spoiler pools! Please, people who I don't have games from, play those games/send me the reps! >.> If I have made any mistakes, please let me know :D
(Currently making the Ro16)
Also, I hope everyone knows that the Ro16 is being played live and casted live on the date and time listed in the OP! So that means this Saturday at 7PM EST (-5:GMT)(Being there 15 minutes before hand helps a ton as well). Please contact me via PM if you cannot play your matches at this time and we will see if you can play them earlier (Depending on how nice your opponent is/if he can play them before that scheduled time.)
Now surely not all Ro16 games will get casted (that would be AT LEAST 32 games since it's a Bo3), but I hope to get a few of them casted and the people that are there on time certainly help with that! :D
Thank you and good luck!
-Shimy
EDIT: Also, huge thanks to our cast today! Artanis[xp] and LRM)NoOne deserve a huge thanks for their awesome job even though some of the games weren't the most amusing to cast. At least that last one made up for it all :D can we have the matches be played like we did for the pool round? I can't have obs in my games or I lag.
If this is the case, then yes.
I hope we have some people we can cast live :D
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i played really poorly and got beaten as a result T_T
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Hmmm so my ro16 game starts at 3AM on Sunday in my timezone. I think I am gonna need to reschedule this, but I don't know who my opponent is yet.
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On February 03 2012 12:19 endy wrote:
Hmmm so my ro16 game starts at 3AM on Sunday in my timezone. I think I am gonna need to reschedule this, but I don't know who my opponent is yet.
Everyone will know tomorrow for sure. The quicker people play the sooner I know. If games aren't played tomorrow, they result in a W.O. for the person that reports to me first
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Just letting everyone know that johny23 guarantees he will reach the semifinals if he makes it out of his group. This is a warning to all you non-believers.
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On February 03 2012 12:56 Jealous wrote:
Just letting everyone know that johny23 guarantees he will reach the semifinals if he makes it out of his group. This is a warning to all you non-believers.
True story. I will be on tomorrow at round 5:30pm est or 6:30pm est to play [kdv]mewka. I tried meeting him all this week I never saw him on Sat/Sun/Mon/Tues/Wend/Thurs. He only replied to my PM once and never told me what time to meet him only asked me what time I can play.
So I'll be ready Friday to play 7pmEST per original time we were going to play.
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On February 03 2012 12:35 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:19 endy wrote:
Hmmm so my ro16 game starts at 3AM on Sunday in my timezone. I think I am gonna need to reschedule this, but I don't know who my opponent is yet. Everyone will know tomorrow for sure. The quicker people play the sooner I know. If games aren't played tomorrow, they result in a W.O. for the person that reports to me first
I'm afraid tomorrow will already be too late. I mean, I have a 13 hours difference with EST, when my opponent will be announced tomorrow I'll be sleeping. When I'll get up, and see the post, I'll PM my opponent but he'll be sleeping haha. I hope it will be alright, that would be so silly to pass the pool play only to forfeit ro16
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Why not just make the people who have to play at alternate times play each other? If seeds allow, of course... Although I don't think seeds matter THAT much for most of these groups (a lot of 2-1 finishes and not much skill difference).
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On February 03 2012 13:34 Jealous wrote:
Why not just make the people who have to play at alternate times play each other? If seeds allow, of course... Although I don't think seeds matter THAT much for most of these groups (a lot of 2-1 finishes and not much skill difference).
i agree.
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good games, well played group D!
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On February 03 2012 13:34 Jealous wrote:
Why not just make the people who have to play at alternate times play each other? If seeds allow, of course... Although I don't think seeds matter THAT much for most of these groups (a lot of 2-1 finishes and not much skill difference).
Hmm... I see, but then that changes things up a tad... I guess it could work. So Endy, ProfProtoss, krndandaman, and Supremecy are the ones who can't play at that time? If there's more, let me know. Also, Supremecy, you still have to finish your group. You might not even make it out of Pool play >> Unless you are holding out on reps...
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On February 03 2012 13:54 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 13:34 Jealous wrote:
Why not just make the people who have to play at alternate times play each other? If seeds allow, of course... Although I don't think seeds matter THAT much for most of these groups (a lot of 2-1 finishes and not much skill difference). Hmm... I see, but then that changes things up a tad... I guess it could work. So Endy, ProfProtoss, krndandaman, and Supremecy are the ones who can't play at that time? If there's more, let me know. Also, Supremecy, you still have to finish your group. You might not even make it out of Pool play >> Unless you are holding out on reps...
To be honest, I *should* be able to play ro16 even though it's Sunday 3AM for me. I just can't be 100% sure I will stay up that late. If I make it to ro8, Monday 3AM is just out of question.
I'll try to contact my ro16 opponent as soon as I know who he is to see if there is a time that would be fine for both of us, otherwise I'll try to play at the original time. Maybe I'm lucky and he's in the Asia timezone too (China/Singapore/Australia anyone?)
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So pumped to watch from the Ro16!!
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IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR PLAYERS
Maps for the round of 16 and on will be determined for the first game and the loser picks the next map from the listed maps below. Each player may veto one map from said map pool and declare it before any games are played in the
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On February 03 2012 12:00 Kiante wrote:
i played really poorly and got beaten as a result T_T
I completely called your game too. Someone was like "panda always goes drops," so I said "ah in that case, panda will cliff drop Kiante, Kiante will suicide all his goons trying to kill it, then ragequit." At least you can legitimately blame the map though. Tau Cross terrible for PvT :/
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Yeah, Tau Cross... really didn't like the map choice.
I suppose Triatholon is there for the novelty factor but I would've preferred Plasma. (Plasma is a great map!) Outsider is already included, one of the best maps.
There aren't even a few good three-player maps.
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On February 03 2012 19:22 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:00 Kiante wrote:
i played really poorly and got beaten as a result T_T I completely called your game too. Someone was like "panda always goes drops," so I said "ah in that case, panda will cliff drop Kiante, Kiante will suicide all his goons trying to kill it, then ragequit." At least you can legitimately blame the map though. Tau Cross terrible for PvT :/
no, the reason i lost that game wasn't the drops.i only like like 10 or so probes to it. the reason was i haven't been playing much, and i made the decision to do an 11(was supposed to be 12) gate allin because i didn't really feel like playing on. just as i decided to go panda dropped my third, and instead of just cleaning it up (it was like 2 tanks and a vulture) i just went for it because i was already sold on my allin off 3 base idea. if i'd just cleaned up the drop with a few of my reinforcing units i could've easily won the game as i was in a good economic position.
The only person i can blame is myself, not the map, not the drops. the cliff drop did fuck all in comparison to the vultures that would've done their damage regardless of the cliff. i didn't rage quit, i made a poor decision, and once my third died there was no coming back in the game for me. my main was basically out, nat was soon to follow and i didn't have a third while panda still had 3 cc's and reasonable scv count (not great as i'd killed a few, but enough). I didn't have tech to fall back on, just gateway units, not enough to bust again.
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On February 03 2012 19:51 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Yeah, Tau Cross... really didn't like the map choice.
I suppose Triatholon is there for the novelty factor but I would've preferred Plasma. (Plasma is a great map!) Outsider is already included, one of the best maps.
There aren't even a few good three-player maps.
I like Tau Cross as a protoss, forces you to be very aggressive it's nice. I love outsider too, I'm sure we're going to see very entertaining ro16 games.
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On February 03 2012 20:07 Kiante wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 19:22 Sayle wrote:On February 03 2012 12:00 Kiante wrote:
i played really poorly and got beaten as a result T_T I completely called your game too. Someone was like "panda always goes drops," so I said "ah in that case, panda will cliff drop Kiante, Kiante will suicide all his goons trying to kill it, then ragequit." At least you can legitimately blame the map though. Tau Cross terrible for PvT :/ no, the reason i lost that game wasn't the drops.i only like like 10 or so probes to it. the reason was i haven't been playing much, and i made the decision to do an 11(was supposed to be 12) gate allin because i didn't really feel like playing on. just as i decided to go panda dropped my third, and instead of just cleaning it up (it was like 2 tanks and a vulture) i just went for it because i was already sold on my allin off 3 base idea. if i'd just cleaned up the drop with a few of my reinforcing units i could've easily won the game as i was in a good economic position. The only person i can blame is myself, not the map, not the drops. the cliff drop did fuck all in comparison to the vultures that would've done their damage regardless of the cliff. i didn't rage quit, i made a poor decision, and once my third died there was no coming back in the game for me. my main was basically out, nat was soon to follow and i didn't have a third while panda still had 3 cc's and reasonable scv count (not great as i'd killed a few, but enough). I didn't have tech to fall back on, just gateway units, not enough to bust again.
I made it way harder than it should've been, tbqh. I made a couple stupid decisions in defending. I scanned the 11 gateways and was like, oh lets move out 8 vultures to go support this drop too(which, incidentally, did very little), but really, I should've just stayed and defended. It would've made a huge difference too, since I had tanks fighting zealots in the first big push. Then I seige 2 tanks randomly later while 8 zealots are charging it >_>.
I was really close to gging too, if kiante reinforced with a couple of goons or killed off a bit more somewhere I probably would've died.
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Yo Shimy idk what you did but the formatting is all fucked up all over the OP lol. Especially in the pool results.
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On February 03 2012 21:53 Jealous wrote:
Yo Shimy idk what you did but the formatting is all fucked up all over the OP lol. Especially in the pool results.
I saw that last night and sent him a pm lol
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This mewka guy is frustrating he just sent me a PM saying he isn't asking what time I can play and that he is on today a lot with [kdv]mewka ID. I dont understand this guy at all.
I told him we will play at 7:00pm EST today which is the scheduled time anyways. It's not my fault if he can't make it. I made every attempt to play him for a full week and he never responded.
Also doesn't sg's pie still have to play him? or SG's.pie just forfeits the win to him?
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WTH U_U How did this happen? It looked completely fine last night and now it's all messed up! I'm on it. And I'll be posting the brackets soon. It seemed fair that the two pools that won't give me any information have to play eachother so that I can give everyone who is finished a person to play lol
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Here it is: http://challonge.com/sgscro I posted it in the OP as well! Good luck and have fun!
EDIT: Your first map you play is in the OP so go read it!!! Also, each player can VETO one map and declare it before any games are played. Games will be played @ 7PM EST February 4th. If you cannot play your game then, contact your opponent and schedule something up. Thank you.
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ProfProtoss fighting!!!~~
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On February 04 2012 00:38 Bakuryu wrote:
ProfProtoss fighting!!!~~
He's so good and I had never heard about him before. O_o He's definitely one of the stronger people in tournament
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I just saw my games...I can't understand how you can go x8 at the last game. Such a piece of art. That was JD vs Bisu material.
j/k I'm so terrible LOL
Edit: I know it's right above my post but it has to be highlighted!
http://i.imgur.com/YygvX.jpg
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ATTENTION!!!!
STARTING IN 3.5 Hours!!
I will be casting some more of the pool games starting at 08:32 GMT (+00:00) today.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/l_master
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On February 04 2012 01:32 L_Master wrote:ATTENTION!!!! STARTING IN 3.5 Hours!! I will be casting some more of the pool games starting at 08:43 GMT (+00:00) today. Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/l_master
awe YEAH!
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I've been told to cast pool D, if there are other pools I should cast or that you want casted post em up!
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On February 04 2012 01:32 L_Master wrote:ATTENTION!!!! STARTING IN 3.5 Hours!! I will be casting some more of the pool games starting at 08:48 GMT (+00:00) today. Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/l_master
do you know what games you are going to cast ? it will be the middle of the night for me I wanna know if its gnna be worth staying up to watch !
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On February 04 2012 01:48 endy wrote:do you know what games you are going to cast ? it will be the middle of the night for me I wanna know if its gnna be worth staying up to watch !
You tell me!
Pool D for sure apparently, then maybe 2-3 more pools.
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If my games get casted im going to be very very very sad. TT
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Shotcoder going to be on today?
I'll be on after 01:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Cast pool G!!
12 nexus PvP fighting!
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Trying to get the reppack currently. Thought Shimy had sent it to me over skype but looks like the download process was canceled.
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Shimy, your pool results are still ef'd up.
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I think it was random in the way seeds were determined.
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It shouldn't be random. It should be #2 from a group vs #1.
It's a bit ef'd up right now.
probe and profprotoss are 3-0 winners
drywater vs lumire is fair cause lumire finished second in his pool
but kororo vs krn are pool winners so that shouldn't happen.
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but the top bracket is like that too in that pool G winner will face Pool B winner etc
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Should really not be the case though.
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On February 04 2012 05:40 krndandaman wrote:
just wondering, why is the bottom bracket so stacked? was brackets done by random? everyone there atm besides Kororo and Lumire are 3-0 winners of their respective pool. and Kororo won a very competitive pool and Lumire is one of the favorites in this tourny. Not to mention I'm assuming shotcoder will make it through too.
meh im gonna have a hell of a hard time getting to even ro8/ro4.
@Kororo, if you see this on time want to play at either 7PM EST today or something? i'm out all day saturday and can't play. and can you host?
Sorry man I'm going to be out today.
EDIT: I didn't realize the matches are tomorrow TT. Also, I can't host. I might be able to play at 10-12PM PST though.
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On February 04 2012 05:50 Snipinpanda wrote:
It shouldn't be random. It should be #2 from a group vs #1.
It's a bit ef'd up right now.
probe and profprotoss are 3-0 winners
drywater vs lumire is fair cause lumire finished second in his pool
but kororo vs krn are pool winners so that shouldn't happen.
yeah, and waiting for shotcodder too.
if he cant come tonight 21:00PM EST. i cant play.
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When will we know the first map being played?
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Don't forget Puppy we're playing in 15 minutes on the time you set
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So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such?
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On February 04 2012 08:55 Jealous wrote:
So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such?
Random was the way it was done. I do not plan on changing it. Sorry if this disappoints you :/
EDIT: And because pools weren't even played yet, I said to heck with it and made the unfinished players play eachother. Seemed fair. Also, there's no real good way to seed things. I've watched all the games of this tourney and I can honestly say the people who made it out of pool play are all beatable and would be good matches all around.
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On February 04 2012 09:38 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 08:55 Jealous wrote:
So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such? Random was the way it was done. I do not plan on changing it. Sorry if this disappoints you :/ EDIT: And because pools weren't even played yet, I said to heck with it and made the unfinished players play eachother. Seemed fair. Also, there's no real good way to seed things. I've watched all the games of this tourney and I can honestly say the people who made it out of pool play are all beatable and would be good matches all around.
Ah no problem at all! It's just unusual, so I wanted to confirm before I start crying my eyes out @ PvT on Outsider ;-;
EDIT: Against a man infamous for dropship play? Sigh...
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I'm in channel, AleC and znf
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On February 04 2012 09:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 09:38 Shimy wrote:On February 04 2012 08:55 Jealous wrote:
So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such? Random was the way it was done. I do not plan on changing it. Sorry if this disappoints you :/ EDIT: And because pools weren't even played yet, I said to heck with it and made the unfinished players play eachother. Seemed fair. Also, there's no real good way to seed things. I've watched all the games of this tourney and I can honestly say the people who made it out of pool play are all beatable and would be good matches all around. Ah no problem at all! It's just unusual, so I wanted to confirm before I start crying my eyes out @ PvT on Outsider ;-; EDIT: Against a man infamous for dropship play? Sigh...
Well seeding pool winner vs some other pool's second player is generally how things are done, but w/e.
Also, there's a chance that I'll beat shotcoder and claim group F's winner spot, and you'll end up playing someone else, although I dunno if shimy wants to change that or not.
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On February 04 2012 10:11 Snipinpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 09:42 Jealous wrote:On February 04 2012 09:38 Shimy wrote:On February 04 2012 08:55 Jealous wrote:
So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such? Random was the way it was done. I do not plan on changing it. Sorry if this disappoints you :/ EDIT: And because pools weren't even played yet, I said to heck with it and made the unfinished players play eachother. Seemed fair. Also, there's no real good way to seed things. I've watched all the games of this tourney and I can honestly say the people who made it out of pool play are all beatable and would be good matches all around. Ah no problem at all! It's just unusual, so I wanted to confirm before I start crying my eyes out @ PvT on Outsider ;-; EDIT: Against a man infamous for dropship play? Sigh... Well seeding pool winner vs some other pool's second player is generally how things are done, but w/e. Also, there's a chance that I'll beat shotcoder and claim group F's winner spot, and you'll end up playing someone else, although I dunno if shimy wants to change that or not.
I actually just had you winning the pool to begin with o.o I thought since Kiante was 0-2 and you were 2-0 and mercurial was 1-1 at the time that you pretty much at it in the bag unless something crazy went on. Also, if anyone has the complete results so I can replace G#1, #2, etc with actual names.
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Well shotcoder can go 3-0...
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On February 04 2012 10:11 Snipinpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 09:42 Jealous wrote:On February 04 2012 09:38 Shimy wrote:On February 04 2012 08:55 Jealous wrote:
So, any word on the brackets being changed to accommodate seed positions and such? Random was the way it was done. I do not plan on changing it. Sorry if this disappoints you :/ EDIT: And because pools weren't even played yet, I said to heck with it and made the unfinished players play eachother. Seemed fair. Also, there's no real good way to seed things. I've watched all the games of this tourney and I can honestly say the people who made it out of pool play are all beatable and would be good matches all around. Ah no problem at all! It's just unusual, so I wanted to confirm before I start crying my eyes out @ PvT on Outsider ;-; EDIT: Against a man infamous for dropship play? Sigh... Well seeding pool winner vs some other pool's second player is generally how things are done, but w/e. Also, there's a chance that I'll beat shotcoder and claim group F's winner spot, and you'll end up playing someone else, although I dunno if shimy wants to change that or not.
So far Shimy has decided to stick to the current brackets and I would be inclined to agree, since some matches have already been played for the Ro16. We should expect to play each other methinks. See you tomorrow! GL in your matches.
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Btw Sunday 7 pm EST is during the superbowl, just making sure everyone is aware so if you get into the Ro8 you're not like "OH SHIT!" on the day of and don't schedule accordingly.
(I personally don't care for American football ^^; BROOD WAR BROOD WAR!)
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Drywater do you want to play our games tonight or have them casted live tommarow?
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Sighhh....I regret having not been able to play any BW leading up to this. The results might have still been the same but at least it'd be less humiliating. >.>
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On February 04 2012 11:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Sighhh....I regret having not been able to play any BW leading up to this. The results might have still been the same but at least it'd be less humiliating. >.>
T-T
gg group members, fun games
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Did you guys try Hamachi?
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On February 04 2012 11:55 krndandaman wrote:
hey shimy, sorry for the inconvenience but could you switch opponents for me and kororo?
we can't play vs each other due to lag. even with someone else hosting/lat trick...
i think we both need to play vs players who can host.
hope we can work something out!
Game ranger or Hamachi would be nice o.o It would be really weird to switch you guys and I'm not sure it's completely fair o.o
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Shimy can you confirm receiving my reps?
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On February 04 2012 12:07 Shotcoder wrote:
Shimy can you confirm receiving my reps?
received! :D Thanks so much!
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On February 04 2012 12:22 GasMaskSociety wrote:When you get Hamachi, keep in mind the following; 1) BW supports ONLY 1.0.1.5. Download here: http://www.filehippo.com/download_hamachi/download/6393e0a5ed67efe6b486569cc6610c7d/2) When you install hamachi, UNCHECK the option "Block vulnerable Microsoft Windows services" 3) Disable ALL firewalls/antiviruses. This matters because if enabled there is a chance you won't be able to see each other's games.
To add to this, you need to host in UDP mode under multiplayer, in case you didn't know ^^ Also, if you don't use a launcher I've heard you will have less problems but I'm not 100% on that, so remember to save reps if you have to resort to this.
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Once again, important notice
First, Probe has contributed a crap ton and this should be noted.
Second, I have more results. I just need to know about Pool G! So someone please tell me who were the winners of that group O_O Anyhoo, here's the new link that has new people listed on it. Sorry to the people who are having to deal with Pool G's lack of communication. http://challonge.com/sgscro
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Lololol Johny23 won! Hooray!
He also predicted correctly that he would have to face Shotcoder LOL glhf Johny! STAY TRUE TO YOUR GUARANTEE! I'M ROOTING FOR YOU!
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fana, when do you wanna play tomorrow?
I'll probably be around sometime from 5 pm est on ward tomorrow, maybe a bit earlier, maybe a bit later.
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I am a little concerned that these maps are not balanced enough for Terran.
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
Second of all I noticed some of the maps appear to have expansions infront of there base AND an expansion inside there base. This makes it extremely easy for protoss to just max out on Zealot/Dragoon 3/3/3 and roll over the terran 3/3 army with 45 siege tanks 20 goliath and 20ish vultures.
I guess terran could try and siege on the high ground but even then the protoss zealots/dragoons would just crush it.
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On February 04 2012 13:53 krndandaman wrote:
hey shimy, me and kororo managed to play our matches on hamachi. sent reps/results to you
You are awesome. Thank you :D
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HEY EVERYONE! GO VOTE IN THE POLL IN THE OP!!! Thank you!
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On February 04 2012 14:09 johny23 wrote:
I am a little concerned that these maps are not balanced enough for Terran.
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
Second of all I noticed some of the maps appear to have expansions infront of there base AND an expansion inside there base. This makes it extremely easy for protoss to just max out on Zealot/Dragoon 3/3/3 and roll over the terran 3/3 army with 45 siege tanks 20 goliath and 20ish vultures.
I guess terran could try and siege on the high ground but even then the protoss zealots/dragoons would just crush it.
Balance Whining? Really?
These maps have been posted for a pretty long time now, right?
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Yes, I knew I would get shotcoder. You may think brackets are "random" but theyre really not. It's my bad luck to of course get one of the players favoured to win it. I'd rather play S2GLOW, NI.lumire any protoss or any other zerg.
Only getting Probe might be worst. I think he's just a little rusty. Watching him vs a B 1v1 player was scary as hell though. I think Probe or Noise[aov] will win tourney.
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On February 04 2012 14:21 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 14:09 johny23 wrote:
I am a little concerned that these maps are not balanced enough for Terran.
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
Second of all I noticed some of the maps appear to have expansions infront of there base AND an expansion inside there base. This makes it extremely easy for protoss to just max out on Zealot/Dragoon 3/3/3 and roll over the terran 3/3 army with 45 siege tanks 20 goliath and 20ish vultures.
I guess terran could try and siege on the high ground but even then the protoss zealots/dragoons would just crush it. Balance Whining? Really? These maps have been posted for a pretty long time now, right?
What? I am not playing T v P. I am playing P v T. I was trying to be nice and get better maps for Terran users since they obviously got the short end of the stick. There's not much open room in these maps to flank and some of the maps have bases inside their mains.
Looks like you're the one being bad manner. I am just trying to be fair.
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johny23 can we play a bit earlier tomorrow? I'd like to have my evening open if at all possible but if you'd rather play at the scheduled time that's fine too.
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On February 04 2012 14:29 Shotcoder wrote:
johny23 can we play a bit earlier tomorrow? I'd like to have my evening open if at all possible but if you'd rather play at the scheduled time that's fine too.
Ok well Ill go to bed now and try to get on a little earlier I guess. I don't want to make any promises but Ill try to accomodate your schedule.
I am reserving the right to play at the normal time incase for some reason I can't make it earlier.
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Does anybody find it strange that johny23 signed up for TL the day after this thread was made? and has no akas? :o
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rofl anyone who has seen me play can verify I am C+ max. Not to mention this name has tons of games on it. I only have like one other C- name, one other C name and one D+ name That's it. I am not a 1v1 player.
I've played mostly 2v2 on iccup. I don't practice, train or play 1v1 hardly ever.
Also I'am fairly certain there's a smurf in the tourney who is B-/B rank 1v1(and no not profprotoss). I won't say anymore because it will be pretty obvious soon if I am right or wrong.
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I really hope you're not accusing me of smurf? lol anyone who knows me personally or through brood war will say otherwise
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I don't need to say anything or name anyone. I'll let other people, the replays and results decide if I am right or wrong.
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Yeah dude, I'm in total cohorts with Shimy to rig this tournament against you, johny23.
You better watch out, cause I'm paying shotcoder $50 to beat you(might not be necessary cause he plays the imba, imba race of terran on the imba, imba map pool).
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On February 04 2012 15:21 Snipinpanda wrote:
Yeah dude, I'm in total cohorts with Shimy to rig this tournament against you, johny23.
You better watch out, cause I'm paying shotcoder $50 to beat you(might not be necessary cause he plays the imba, imba race of terran on the imba, imba map pool).
I don't think shotcoder is a smurf. He doesn't even need to be a smurf. He's on the higher rank end of tourney (C+) and these maps seem very nice for terran.
It's funny I've goten two replies though with people thinking that I am mentioning them smurfing when I didn't mention anyone LOL
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On February 04 2012 15:26 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 14:23 johny23 wrote:On February 04 2012 14:21 L_Master wrote:On February 04 2012 14:09 johny23 wrote:
I am a little concerned that these maps are not balanced enough for Terran.
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
Second of all I noticed some of the maps appear to have expansions infront of there base AND an expansion inside there base. This makes it extremely easy for protoss to just max out on Zealot/Dragoon 3/3/3 and roll over the terran 3/3 army with 45 siege tanks 20 goliath and 20ish vultures.
I guess terran could try and siege on the high ground but even then the protoss zealots/dragoons would just crush it. Balance Whining? Really? These maps have been posted for a pretty long time now, right? What? I am not playing T v P. I am playing P v T. I was trying to be nice and get better maps for Terran users since they obviously got the short end of the stick. There's not much open room in these maps to flank and some of the maps have bases inside their mains. Looks like you're the one being bad manner. I am just trying to be fair. well 5/16 are pure terrans and several of the 11 others have a TvX matchup 9/32 were pure terrans in pool play terrans seem to be doing fine regardless of map balance (dunno if it is imbalanced or not)
lol, I was just being sarcastic for fun. 200/200 Army of terran owns 200/200 protoss. And IMO free bases are a bigger boost to terran since it's typically harder for terran to secure expos.
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good night and my ro4 prediction is looking a little weak jealous. shotcoder def has more 1v1 experience then me he's gosu ;D
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On February 04 2012 14:09 johny23 wrote:
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
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you and I both know that this post is a complete lie, you watched a terran beat a protoss on this map earlier today... (and I have the replay to prove it)
we were actually talking afterwards about how hard it is to engage terran because of all of the choke points...
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Sorry guys, i forgot to send the results yesterday + I'm 6 hours ahead of most of you guys(+1 UTC). I sent you a pm with my results shimy, and i sent you all the reps I have.
PS: I'm 1:2. I lost to sgs.Yaqoob and scary[t], and I won against Puppy.
What I know from hearsay is that:Yaqoob won against scary and me,though i have no idea how he played against puppy. And i think Puppy won against scary[t].
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This is how the group went:
Yaqoob > Scary[T]
Yaqoob > Oxy
Scary > Oxy
Puppy > Scary
Puppy > Yaqoob
Oxy > Puppy
Puppy 2-1
Yaqoob 2-1
Oxy 1-2
Scary 1-2
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Nice, good job puppy!
Edit:
Predictions:
Lumire > Wala
snipin_panda > lonelyprobe
no idea
nekotrap > sgs.yaqoob
kororo > dysxelic
johnny < noise[aov]
puppykiller > alec
mantoss < s2glow
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On February 04 2012 20:53 fold wrote:
Nice, good job puppy!
+1, now that I am out I am totally cheering for Puppy, no offence Panda
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Snipinpanda we will meet at 7 pm EST as it says in the op.
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On February 04 2012 16:04 xxpack09 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 14:09 johny23 wrote:
First of all Destination is extremely hard for Terran to win vs Protoss (I've yet to seen Terran win vs P on this map in 55 games)
...... you and I both know that this post is a complete lie, you watched a terran beat a protoss on this map earlier today... (and I have the replay to prove it) we were actually talking afterwards about how hard it is to engage terran because of all of the choke points...
lol, man I am just having fun and being sarcastic. I think most of these maps are hard to engage terran on. There's so many good terran maps I am going to go look at which one to veto.
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hi anybody wanna play training now? since my opponent is not back yet
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wow that cast of artanis and noone sucked hard.
thanks for letting me know that the stuff im watching is soo horrible and sucks soo bad. makes me really watch it, thanks a lot.
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On February 05 2012 01:10 S2Glow wrote:
hi anybody wanna play training now? since my opponent is not back yet
He's PM'd me O_O He said you weren't on time >> Please play matches with him haha
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i am back and hes gone
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On February 05 2012 01:52 S2Glow wrote:i am back and hes gone
He went to go be with his wife. He said he'll try again later with you so be on the lookout.
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I guess I'd better post here directly since TL doesn't allow to send PM to multiple users.
As sent by PM, I can't play now, but I think Shimy is ok to let us play even a few hours before the original deadline which was 8AM for us local time, so we can play at 9 or 10AM if 8AM is too early. I'll check TL quickly from the bed when I can :d
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shotcoder you said you wanted to play earlier right? I am on right now. Didn't see you on this morning so I came back now.
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On February 04 2012 20:53 fold wrote:
Nice, good job puppy!
Edit:
Predictions:
Lumire < Wala
snipin_panda > lonelyprobe
no idea
nekotrap > sgs.yaqoob
kororo > dysxelic
johnny < noise[aov]
puppykiller > alec
mantoss < s2glow
There. Fixed that.
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On February 05 2012 07:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:53 fold wrote:
Nice, good job puppy!
Edit:
Predictions:
Lumire > Wala
snipin_panda > lonelyprobe
no idea
nekotrap > sgs.yaqoob
kororo > dysxelic
johnny < noise[aov]
puppykiller > alec
mantoss < s2glow
There. Fixed that.
So I still lose? lol
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On February 05 2012 07:14 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 07:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2012 20:53 fold wrote:
Nice, good job puppy!
Edit:
Predictions:
Lumire > Wala
snipin_panda > lonelyprobe
no idea
nekotrap > sgs.yaqoob
kororo > dysxelic
johnny < noise[aov]
puppykiller > alec
mantoss < s2glow
There. Fixed that. So I still lose? lol
What he means is that you still lose
Boldly.
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WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy)
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Casting will be at 9PM EST tonight!
Due to the busy schedule of sGs.L_Master, we're pushing things a couple hours back. This doesn't mean you have to show up at that time (Although it would be cool to cast some live), I'll still be there at 7 to host and whatnot.
We're meeting in the channel: op sGsCRO
EDIT: Will probably be a short cast too. I like PL :D Also, we'll cast on Sunday and Monday. So Ro8 people don't stress it. You'll have some more time.
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Aww I think this overlaps with SPL time. Thats ok, i'll watch both at the same time.
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I message my opponent on teamliquid and he hasn't replied yet.
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On February 05 2012 08:00 Gao Xi wrote:
Aww I think this overlaps with SPL time. Thats ok, i'll watch both at the same time.
Things are weird so we're probably just gonna cast up until PL or just a little after. As far as I know, there should be a full cast on Sunday and Monday to make up for it
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EDIT: Panda says you're on.
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On February 05 2012 07:50 coolcrimefighter wrote:
WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy)
What? Don't kid yourself.
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So... the organizer logged off, L_Master is afk, and proleague starts in 40 minutes.
Going to assume no cast today. :/
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lol . should host way before PL =P
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Still waiting on a few people to play TT
Those people are:
Puppykiller vs SL]..AleC (I know AleC was ready to play but Puppy wasn't on.)
-Mantoss-vs Endy (I know their ordeal and they shall play early tomorrow I think)
sGs.Yaqoob vs SakuraKyouko (Not sure what's going on with this group)
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On February 05 2012 09:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 07:50 coolcrimefighter wrote:
WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy) What? Don't kid yourself.
??????????
I went all the way to his apartment just to meet him.
That's true dedication right there.
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As for casting, the games will be casted Sunday and Monday. Ro16 on Sunday and Ro8 on Monday. Sorry for the mix up in times but it seems people are busy TT
EDIT: Sunday might be at a weird time since Superbowl is coming on.
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On February 05 2012 14:10 Shimy wrote:
Still waiting on a few people to play TT
Those people are:
Puppykiller vs SL]..AleC (I know AleC was ready to play but Puppy wasn't on.)
-Mantoss-vs Endy (I know their ordeal and they shall play early tomorrow I think)
sGs.Yaqoob vs SakuraKyouko (Not sure what's going on with this group)
It's s2glow vs -mantoss- -mantoss- being myself. And we're going to play in a few minutes based on what we agreed on.
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On February 05 2012 14:10 Shimy wrote:
As for casting, the games will be casted Sunday and Monday. Ro16 on Sunday and Ro8 on Monday. Sorry for the mix up in times but it seems people are busy TT
EDIT: Sunday might be at a weird time since Superbowl is coming on.
I want to apologize to everyone. Family plans took longer than I expected and then my internet decided it would be a spectacular time to go down on me.
I'm sorry guys.
I guess the current plan now is to cast RO16 tomorrow (assuming Shimy wants to because of the super bowl and such) and then the Ro8 cast on Monday.
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On February 03 2012 08:17 coolcrimefighter wrote:i can't believe they casted our game. For anyone curious about what I was thinking in the JustoLamas vs Drywater game, I faked a super fast third to provoke him to 1. push out and try to kill me 2. push out to take a quick third of his own he did neither and just stayed in his base so he made me look like a dumbass trying to play 2 base protoss vs 2 base terran.
That was a very clever strategy CCF. I also noticed you canceling your 2nd gateway after his scout died. Very tricksy indeed.
Too bad it didn't work
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panic, choke and triathlon.
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I really need to practice on some of these new maps. Triathlon is so lame. Its hard to have fun and play relaxed on maps you don't know... it makes me panic and freeze up.
This tourney has been fun though so far its made me want to come back to BW and start training 1v1 instead of being 2v2 player.
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Ok seriously why is the time between rounds in this tourney so short? I see no reason for the rush. Some of us have jobs. Also sorry Alec that we didnt play yet. Yesterday I went home to take a nap about 5 hours before our game, ended up sleeping almost 16 hours...
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On February 05 2012 14:10 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 09:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 05 2012 07:50 coolcrimefighter wrote:
WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy) What? Don't kid yourself. ?????????? I went all the way to his apartment just to meet him. That's true dedication right there.
I think we need a bo9 grudgematch to settle this casted by Sayle. <_>
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On February 06 2012 00:35 puppykiller wrote:
Ok seriously why is the time between rounds in this tourney so short? I see no reason for the rush. Some of us have jobs. Also sorry Alec that we didnt play yet. Yesterday I went home to take a nap about 5 hours before our game, ended up sleeping almost 16 hours...
Due to things like this^ Admins and I have decided to cast Ro16 on Monday and Ro8 on Tuesday. So you guys have up until those days to play. Thank you and sorry for this weird layout. Clearly I didn't think it through too well
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I messaged my opponent yesterday and he replied late at night that he had forgot or slept and that he had to go to work so I told him we could play the games today if he wanted.
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On February 06 2012 04:49 Yaqoob wrote:
I messaged my opponent yesterday and he replied late at night that he had forgot or slept and that he had to go to work so I told him we could play the games today if he wanted.
kk sounds good. I kind of just need all the games by tonight or early tomorrow.
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On February 06 2012 05:02 krndandaman wrote:
what do u guys think about having the ro4 a bo5?
i feel like semis/finals will be the most entertaining/competitive games and that bo5 for both would be appropriate
Ya I agree with that. Bo7 sucks dick also.
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On February 06 2012 02:32 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 14:10 coolcrimefighter wrote:On February 05 2012 09:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 05 2012 07:50 coolcrimefighter wrote:
WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy) What? Don't kid yourself. ?????????? I went all the way to his apartment just to meet him. That's true dedication right there. I think we need a bo9 grudgematch to settle this casted by Sayle. <_>
I can't say anything bad about ZnF so that won't work.
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On February 06 2012 05:02 krndandaman wrote:
what do u guys think about having the ro4 a bo5?
i feel like semis/finals will be the most entertaining/competitive games and that bo5 for both would be appropriate
Ok. Good idea. Also, I was thinking about having them a week apart.
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On February 06 2012 05:02 krndandaman wrote:
what do u guys think about having the ro4 a bo5?
i feel like semis/finals will be the most entertaining/competitive games and that bo5 for both would be appropriate
Well the way the brackets were set up I'd tend to disagree. If krndandaman makes ro4 he will win. I am even willing to put money on it if someone wants to bet me.
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On February 06 2012 06:22 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 05:02 krndandaman wrote:
what do u guys think about having the ro4 a bo5?
i feel like semis/finals will be the most entertaining/competitive games and that bo5 for both would be appropriate Well the way the brackets were set up I'd tend to disagree. If krndandaman makes ro4 he will win. I am even willing to put money on it if someone wants to bet me.
Johny, no spoiler >> Delete comments
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On February 06 2012 06:35 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 06:22 johny23 wrote:On February 06 2012 05:02 krndandaman wrote:
what do u guys think about having the ro4 a bo5?
i feel like semis/finals will be the most entertaining/competitive games and that bo5 for both would be appropriate Well the way the brackets were set up I'd tend to disagree. If krndandaman makes ro4 he will win. I am even willing to put money on it if someone wants to bet me. Johny, no spoiler >> Delete comments
I am not spoiling. I am saying if krndandaman makes it past ro4 then he will the tourney because i think the lower bracket had more players favored to win it and they got knocked out.
RO4/ RO8 hasn't even been played yet. I am not spoiling o.o
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On February 06 2012 04:59 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 04:49 Yaqoob wrote:
I messaged my opponent yesterday and he replied late at night that he had forgot or slept and that he had to go to work so I told him we could play the games today if he wanted. kk sounds good. I kind of just need all the games by tonight or early tomorrow.
You should update the OP accordingly if your going to change it.
I also think you should just have ro8/ro4 casts on weekends and the final the week after instead of the final a day after the semis.
I also like the idea of semi's being bo5.
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I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play!
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On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play!
Yeah, I tend to agree. Triathlon is really gag lol. Oh well maybe for next tourney Shimy will change maps if enough people agree.
C-/C/C+ ranks with 5 bases all on top of each other. Triathlon is almost like bgh.
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On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play!
I agree completely, it was different when i thought we could choose not to play on those maps since there was enough standard ones in the map pool, but almost every match has a really wierd starting map which each player wastes all their time practicing on only that map which results in a clumsy clusterfuck where you have no idea what your doing followed by really wierd/bad games since they haven't played a standard game for days.
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On February 06 2012 12:14 krndandaman wrote:
i played 3 of the maps in the map pool in my matches without ever playing on them before lol
all i played until now was FS, Python, Desti, HBR
Well things must of went right for you then. After I play on a map that I hate and don't know what to do it makes my follow up games suck as well because I am frustrated and paniced. Kind of along the lines of what lumire said.
Actually the only map that I really can't stand is Triathlon. Oh well nothing I can do about the maps now.
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On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play!
It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push?
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On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push?
Wow, finally someone defending the maps :D Thanks haha
EDIT: Plus a lot of you are veterans of BW :/
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On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push?
While outsider isn't my favorite it's a workable map. Triathlon is built sloppy and expansions on top of expansions. The map is so unusual how can you say the better player wins? Most maps are some-what the same. Maps like eletric Circuit and Triathlon are so different that its not the normal.
In other words weird maps that no one knows makes people panic or do things they normally wouldn't do. I don't see how that means the better player wins.
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On February 06 2012 13:17 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push? Wow, finally someone defending the maps :D Thanks haha EDIT: Plus a lot of you are veterans of BW :/
I really have no problems with the maps at all. Except for Triathlon and Electric circuit. I am sorry but it's really effecting a lot of people in a negative way imo. It's no big deal really. I am just saying for next tourney it's ok to have different maps but these maps have a BGH feel to them imo.
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On February 06 2012 02:32 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 14:10 coolcrimefighter wrote:On February 05 2012 09:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 05 2012 07:50 coolcrimefighter wrote:
WALA HWAITING
(#1 wala fanboy) What? Don't kid yourself. ?????????? I went all the way to his apartment just to meet him. That's true dedication right there. I think we need a bo9 grudgematch to settle this casted by Sayle. <_>
I concur with this. Sayyyyyyyyyyyyyyle!!!
Edit: Kiante needs to co-cast :DDD
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On February 06 2012 13:21 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push? While outsider isn't my favorite it's a workable map. Triathlon is built sloppy and expansions on top of expansions. The map is so unusual how can you say the better player wins? Most maps are some-what the same. Maps like eletric Circuit and Triathlon are so different that its not the normal. In other words weird maps that no one knows makes people panic or do things they normally wouldn't do. I don't see how that means the better player wins.
The better player doesn't panic. The better player has a game plan. The better player studies not only his opponent but the maps. Not saying maps don't impact certain things like race distribution but playing on Longinus, Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, and Python is only so much fun.
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On February 06 2012 13:38 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 13:21 johny23 wrote:On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push? While outsider isn't my favorite it's a workable map. Triathlon is built sloppy and expansions on top of expansions. The map is so unusual how can you say the better player wins? Most maps are some-what the same. Maps like eletric Circuit and Triathlon are so different that its not the normal. In other words weird maps that no one knows makes people panic or do things they normally wouldn't do. I don't see how that means the better player wins. The better player doesn't panic. The better player has a game plan. The better player studies not only his opponent but the maps. Not saying maps don't impact certain things like race distribution but playing on Longinus, Tau Cross, Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, and Python is only so much fun.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Triathlon is literally the only map I've ever seen that I cannot stand. It's unplayable for me. I guess if I practiced it I could get better but I don't have time to practice one map that isn't like any other map o.o
Oh well enough on that map. We'll just agree to disagree.
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On February 06 2012 13:17 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push? Wow, finally someone defending the maps :D Thanks haha EDIT: Plus a lot of you are veterans of BW :/
A lot of us are not, I've only been playing bw for like 9 months.
Some races/matchups have easier time adjusting to certain maps then others, some have to do a completely different game plan that you have never done before on a map you've never seen/played before and it turns into a test of who has the most experience on certain maps or with a certain style or whoever has the widest range of practice partners that will sit down and play 10-15 games on the same map.
C players have enough trouble executing standard builds on standard maps. This is supposed to be a regular C tourney not a "RIBBONS 2001-2005 BW MAPS TOUR!" (an exaggeration but you get the point) and results in a huge drop in skill and bad games with gimmicky builds that will never be used by the players after this tour. If you're going to have 1-2 odd maps for people who want to go out on their own and practice those builds then that's totally fine and acceptable, but when you have series starting (BY FAR the most important game in a bo3) on a map you've never played before in your life you end up practicing one gimmicky build and end up flustered because you're already nervous coming into a tournament situation and playing a completely different style of play on a map you barely know where the bases are.
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Why do so many people feel entitled to whine about maps in the public tourney thread and not appeal to the host directly? I don't understand why anyone can't accept that maps chosen for a tournament are entirely up to the host of the tournament and it will undoubtedly leave a few people (usually the losers of Ro#) upset. That's life and you have to deal with it. I spent a lot of time studying BOs from progamer VODs and practicing on these wild maps and I still lost, and what I did was ask the host why I had to play on a certain map that I wanted to veto as my first map via PMs. Whining publicly about map X in match-up Y only hurts the motivation of the host to ever want to create a tournament like this again and I personally view it as a vocal minority trying to 'out' the admin as a poor one for a tournament. Despite my admitted displeasure at having to play Outsider PvT vs. dropship play as my necessitated match, I am very thankful for this tournament, and as such I feel that the tone many of you have taken is downright disrespectful to a person who nets 0 benefit from the running of this tournament besides knowing that they did something good for the community.
In short, I just want to say that we should all be a little more objective. This was a for-fun tournament for C ranks players, and if you lost/didn't like the maps, that's understandable. But is it such a big deal to be complaining about in the thread of a tournament that it still going on? I think not.
Just my 2 cents.
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Umm the maps seem pretty fair to me o_o
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On February 06 2012 13:49 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 13:17 Shimy wrote:On February 06 2012 13:11 Shotcoder wrote:On February 06 2012 11:37 puppykiller wrote:
I just need to ask... why the weird maps? Yes if you are a noob who hates BW and your name is Ribbon, watching pros do unconventional strategies on retarded maps is exciting. However, if you are a C level player who probably spends a lot of time practicing conventional strategies on more standard maps, and does not have the luxury of time that progamers have to come up with map specific strats, nor the guidance of 30 year old coaches who used to play BW back in 2001 when BW made no sense, you probably do not have the capability to produce a decent game on a map like triathlon or outsider. Weird maps both harass the players preparing for the tourney (by forcing them to waste time coming up with a gimmicky strategy that they will probably never use again) and diminish the the value for the viewers (as two noobs clumsily trying to figure out how there builds interact is painful to watch). Seriously its not like the C tour is for the viewers anyway.. its just for the players to get the experience of tourney like play! It doesn't even take that long to create a game plan for each and every map. You look at maps like Outside and immediately notice the easy 3rd and 4th mineral onlys, the extremely short push distance, and the easily droppable cliffs, expansions, and naturals. That means you can play greedy by going for a fast 3rd, timing push, or drop play. I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a game plan like that. then you sit down and play 10-15 games and find out which you are most comfortable with. What weird maps like this do is find out who the actual better all around player is. Not only do you have to create builds and prepare, but you have to innovate and think outside the box. Sure he could have made it all fighting spirit but how many TvPs do you want to see open 1 gate FE vs Seige expand into fast third into a 3/2 timing push? Wow, finally someone defending the maps :D Thanks haha EDIT: Plus a lot of you are veterans of BW :/ A lot of us are not, I've only been playing bw for like 9 months. Some races/matchups have easier time adjusting to certain maps then others, some have to do a completely different game plan that you have never done before on a map you've never seen/played before and it turns into a test of who has the most experience on certain maps or with a certain style or whoever has the widest range of practice partners that will sit down and play 10-15 games on the same map. C players have enough trouble executing standard builds on standard maps. This is supposed to be a regular C tourney not a "RIBBONS 2001-2005 BW MAPS TOUR!" (an exaggeration but you get the point) and results in a huge drop in skill and bad games with gimmicky builds that will never be used by the players after this tour. If you're going to have 1-2 odd maps for people who want to go out on their own and practice those builds then that's totally fine and acceptable, but when you have series starting (BY FAR the most important game in a bo3) on a map you've never played before in your life you end up practicing one gimmicky build and end up flustered because you're already nervous coming into a tournament situation and playing a completely different style of play on a map you barely know where the bases are.
I don't get what you're arguing here. You lose because you are unprepared both with your build and your familiarity with the map so we should use more conventional maps so that players who don't have the time or aren't willing to put in the effort to win have a better chance?
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for a lot of people, it's not a matter of "not willing to put in the effort", i'm sure a lot of people would love to play bw a ton if they actually could...
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Also, a lot of us are coming off a hiatus, props to people who played through PL droughts but I lost interest once the korea since hit the lull.
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Lumire please also consider that some of us (even us who didn't make it to the ro16) enjoy playing and watching games on those maps alot.
And never in my life would I have thought to see someone whine over having to play on a map such as triathlon, that map is really really fun to play as you can do the whackiest cheeses, gas heavy standard play and expand like crazy.
And please don't tell me you don't have time to play on triathlon when I've seen you on for 4+ hours friday and saturday
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to all who whine about map , this is my thought too
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On February 06 2012 15:39 1004 wrote:
for a lot of people, it's not a matter of "not willing to put in the effort", i'm sure a lot of people would love to play bw a ton if they actually could...
I found time to at least glance at the maps and decide what builds I wanted to do on each of them and I work 40 hours a week plus go to school full time. I really don't see the issue. It's the difference between glancing at these forums for 30 seconds or glancing at the map for 30 seconds. That's what separates players, not only the willingness but the ability to divide their time appropriately.
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well shotcoder, some people just aren't that skilled tbh.. they learn slower and improve slower, it would literally be a brain advantage... there are different factors for other people, but someone like puppykiller or lumire i guarantee cannot look at a map they don't play on and know what exactly they want to do on it, this is what people have to take into account... everyone is on their side of the spectrum, they don't put themselves into the other shoes
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On February 06 2012 20:29 1004 wrote:
well shotcoder, some people just aren't that skilled tbh.. they learn slower and improve slower, it would literally be a brain advantage... there are different factors for other people, but someone like puppykiller or lumire i guarantee cannot look at a map they don't play on and know what exactly they want to do on it, this is what people have to take into account... everyone is on their side of the spectrum, they don't put themselves into the other shoes
I think I sense sarcasm in this post, however if I am mistaken then a "brain advantage" sounds like the most legit reason to win in an RTS lol.
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On February 06 2012 20:29 1004 wrote:
well shotcoder, some people just aren't that skilled tbh.. they learn slower and improve slower, it would literally be a brain advantage... there are different factors for other people, but someone like puppykiller or lumire i guarantee cannot look at a map they don't play on and know what exactly they want to do on it, this is what people have to take into account... everyone is on their side of the spectrum, they don't put themselves into the other shoes
What..I wonder how they feel about you telling them what they can or cannot do.
It's not exactly hard to look at a map for 5 minutes to see what features you can take advantage of or builds you should do so you don't get abused.
The maps are fine, even if some of the maps are old, they're either played alot or have guarenteed interesting games in the past.
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I'm ok with one weird map, but why do we have to have several weird maps? One weird maps should be enough to allow "creative players" to do their "creative shit". Multiple weird maps just harass's anyone with time constraints or people who spend most of there time practicing "standard play", which is not uncommon at low levels since practicing "standard play" tends to yield the best results for anyone planning to improve.
I don't intend any disrespect to Shimy. Every tourney organizer (even for the D leagues) has a boner for weird maps. What I find strange is that low level tourneys are supposed to be more for the sake of the players than the viewers. I mean, who honestly wants to watch a C player strain his ass off trying to pull off some half baked strat on a map with retarded pathfinding vs another C player doing another equally retarded home brewed, moonshine, Make Your Own Pizza!, build order, both having no idea how each others strat interacts with the others. It is a miserable experience preparing several maps for a tourney just to get your cock stasised by a mind controlled arbiter on triathlon and getting rolled by lings because your marines on electric circuit thought that you wanted them to worship dark templar at the temple by the mineral only rather then support there comrades attacking the zergs third base.
Once again I am not opposed to a small number (like 2 in a map pool of 8) of weird maps, but the tourney shouldn't be dominantly weird maps or almost standard maps with multiple imposing gimmicks that people are not used to being present in there practice. Its unpleasant to prepare for and it makes for ugly games.
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imo C rank game nobody will want to see if its standard all the way so yeah weird strat is nicer to watch. weird map = train a player thinking process therefore improve the mentality a bit so playing a game with a strat in mind will make that player improve even faster.
my opinion ^^
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On February 06 2012 23:29 puppykiller wrote:
I'm ok with one weird map, but why do we have to have several weird maps? One weird maps should be enough to allow "creative players" to do their "creative shit". Multiple weird maps just harass's anyone with time constraints or people who spend most of there time practicing "standard play", which is not uncommon at low levels since practicing "standard play" tends to yield the best results for anyone planning to improve.
I don't intend any disrespect to Shimy. Every tourney organizer (even for the D leagues) has a boner for weird maps. What I find strange is that low level tourneys are supposed to be more for the sake of the players than the viewers. I mean, who honestly wants to watch a C player strain his ass off trying to pull off some half baked strat on a map with retarded pathfinding vs another C player doing another equally retarded home brewed, moonshine, Make Your Own Pizza!, build order, both having no idea how each others strat interacts with the others. It is a miserable experience preparing several maps for a tourney just to get your cock stasised by a mind controlled arbiter on triathlon and getting rolled by lings because your marines on electric circuit thought that you wanted them to worship dark templar at the temple by the mineral only rather then support there comrades attacking the zergs third base.
Once again I am not opposed to a small number (like 2 in a map pool of 8) of weird maps, but the tourney shouldn't be dominantly weird maps or almost standard maps with multiple imposing gimmicks that people are not used to being present in there practice. Its unpleasant to prepare for and it makes for ugly games.
I think the main problem is that all of the maps were not announced ahead of time, so that people who did not want to play on said maps would just not sign up, relieving the issue above. With this I can agree. I did enjoy your parables of your troubles LOL. I disagree with the rest, because I do also believe that a map pool of Python, FS, Desti over and over again would be boring. If everyone only wants to play/knows how to play standard, the creativity is lost.
Furthermore, each tournament deserves to be different. Some will reward certain styles of play, others will reward others. If your want for a tournament with the above constraints is so great, start your own!
Maps like Triathlon are definitely playable. You could have gone for a faster vessel + emp, or a dropship with goliaths and taken out all the free arbiters you could. He had to research mind control, get a DA, and then wait the relatively long period of time to get enough energy, and also get arbiter tech up the way one normally would and research stasis... It's a risky strategy, I know because I've done it myself. On Tau/Outsider, Protoss can get a faster shuttle instead of an earlier expansion. There are solutions to every problem, and yes sometimes execution will falter in the hands of a less experienced player, but that is why we have to practice, play smart, and be careful of map pathing.
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will the ro16 be casted today?
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I actually haven't been able to play my opponent because our times haven't matched up and now my computer that i play on decided to die. I'll probably end up installing SC on the laptop too
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On February 06 2012 23:57 Prof. Protoss wrote:
will the ro16 be casted today?
Yes. 9:30 EST time I believe. You really have to ask L_Master though. He's in charge of the casting.
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On February 07 2012 00:03 Yaqoob wrote:
I actually haven't been able to play my opponent because our times haven't matched up and now my computer that i play on decided to die. I'll probably end up installing SC on the laptop too
I'll give you a little more time, but just please try to play him sometime today :D
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On February 06 2012 23:41 S2Glow wrote:
imo C rank game nobody will want to see if its standard all the way so yeah weird strat is nicer to watch. weird map = train a player thinking process therefore improve the mentality a bit so playing a game with a strat in mind will make that player improve even faster.
my opinion ^^
Practicing cheese builds will hardly improve a player's ability to cheese or improve the thinking they approach the game with. However, learning the mechanics of the game and manipulating them is what creates a strong cheese player. If you don't know the mechanics of the game and how you are forcing your opponent to feel uncomfortable and adapt to your build with strong mechanics, you are playing a coin flip game. In other words, you are hoping for a cheap win rather than having the ability to make a game plan that will literally force your opponent to be mechanically competent by employing different variations in your 'creative cheese strategy.' If you don't go through this process then your build is based on pure luck, you will not see long term improvements, and you're wasting both players time from the perspective of skill development. If you want to avoid the coin flip cheese approach then learning how the game works first by standard play, then by incorporating cheese strategies will yield consistent results and long term improvement as long as you can find opponents who are mechanically competent, which you probably won't find in a C rank tournament or even on iCCup. That being said, I also don't understand the map pool for this tournament and many other foreign tournaments at all levels.
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Just to be clear one more time, I like a few weird maps. Just it would be a lot easier to prepare for them if their were a few "super standard" maps to balance them out. Maps that don't take much preparation.. That way we also get to put more effort into our preparation for the weird maps, and perhaps some of the odd strategies will be a bit better. No disrespect intended towards Shimy who I am very grateful towards for arranging this tourney .
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Even though I hate most of these maps for various reasons (to be fair I hate most maps) , I don't think the map pool is really that bad.
In total there are 8 maps. Out of these, 4 are current PL maps, of which 1 you can make a case for being weird, but it's a PL map so it's k. Then there's 4 older maps, of which 2 I'd consider weird(Triathlon and Outsider). Tau Cross is standard enough and Destination was probably one of the most played maps pre-FS.
Ideally you'd have some experience playing on all the PL maps, not to mention that you can study off the current games being played on them. Tau Cross/Destination are common enough that you should have played them well enough. Triathlon and Outsider are wierd, but it's only 2 maps, of which you can veto one of them anyways so you can focus on the other.
I really don't think it's terrible.
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I do feel however, that the map pool is too big. 8 map is quite a lot to think about, especially given the time in between matches(like a day). Even for OSL there isn't more than 4 maps, and PL has only around 6, but most players just practice on one.
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So it looks like this tournament is moving right along, I enjoy being able to see games that are being played on these different maps, and I totally think that players having to play on maps they do not have a familiarization with is exciting and makes for more interesting games, just to shed a little light on my personal opinion of playing a lot of maps people aren't necessarily accustomed to playing, one time I was playing vs a korean player who was a lot better than me and we played on a lot of different maps I did not know, after losing all the games I was complaining about the maps and how I did not know them and so it made it harder for me to prepare and play good games vs him because of this, and what he told me was......"It's not the map, it's the player" , and I will never forget that. gl hf gg I hope the final sets of games are exciting to view.
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On February 06 2012 22:11 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 20:29 1004 wrote:
well shotcoder, some people just aren't that skilled tbh.. they learn slower and improve slower, it would literally be a brain advantage... there are different factors for other people, but someone like puppykiller or lumire i guarantee cannot look at a map they don't play on and know what exactly they want to do on it, this is what people have to take into account... everyone is on their side of the spectrum, they don't put themselves into the other shoes What..I wonder how they feel about you telling them what they can or cannot do. It's not exactly hard to look at a map for 5 minutes to see what features you can take advantage of or builds you should do so you don't get abused. The maps are fine, even if some of the maps are old, they're either played alot or have guarenteed interesting games in the past.
i have played with both of them enough to know that they are both tunnel vision players and are not experienced with completely altering their playstyle in even 5 minutes.
and @ lonelyprobe, by brain advantage i mean person a learns, improves, and practice efficiency per game is more than person b's; dunno how else to word it, if you don't understand that then lolol
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On February 07 2012 07:24 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:11 fold wrote:On February 06 2012 20:29 1004 wrote:
well shotcoder, some people just aren't that skilled tbh.. they learn slower and improve slower, it would literally be a brain advantage... there are different factors for other people, but someone like puppykiller or lumire i guarantee cannot look at a map they don't play on and know what exactly they want to do on it, this is what people have to take into account... everyone is on their side of the spectrum, they don't put themselves into the other shoes What..I wonder how they feel about you telling them what they can or cannot do. It's not exactly hard to look at a map for 5 minutes to see what features you can take advantage of or builds you should do so you don't get abused. The maps are fine, even if some of the maps are old, they're either played alot or have guarenteed interesting games in the past. i have played with both of them enough to know that they are both tunnel vision players and are not experienced with completely altering their playstyle in even 5 minutes. and @ lonelyprobe, by brain advantage i mean person a learns, improves, and practice efficiency per game is more than person b's; dunno how else to word it, if you don't understand that then lolol
So what you're saying is, they are a better player? ...
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Shotcoder:
Let's say two people are playing tennis to see who is the best but on the very first match they play on a tennis court that has obstacles they have to jump over, duck between and etc. According to your theory the better player would win because he won't panic and will prepare properly.
I hope you can see how that makes no sense.. The better player would be the one that would win on tennis courts that are standard. Also if the tennis player lost the first match he would probably be a little shaken up going into the next match knowing he's already down a match.
And if you still don't get the point I'll drive it home. I've seen people who are twice the skill level of someone else lose to that person in BGH. Who's better the person who can win on non-money maps or the person who only wins on money maps? Obviously it "could" be perception. However, as we know starcraft the player who won on non-money maps is obviously more skilled over all. Yet, according to you the better player would "adapt" and not "panic".
Also some people didn't know they were playing triathlon until less then 24 hours prior to scheduled playing time and the map was non-veto since it was the first map given.
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I am not intending to disrespect shimy at all. I appreciate the tournament. The only reason I am saying more is because of people like shot coder bringing up arguments that make no sense.
How can you even begin to say that the better player would win on a non-standard map. That doesn't even make sense. It's like changing the basketball court and then saying "oh yeah the better team will win since this basketball court isn't a normal one"
LOL?
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lol lonelyprobe
some people are better at math than others
some people learn maps faster than others
herp derp
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On February 07 2012 08:09 1004 wrote:
lol lonelyprobe
some people are better at math than others
some people learn maps faster than others
herp derp
So they are superior at an aspect of the game, within the confines of the game. How does that not make them better players again?
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sigh
i'm saying that some people require more time than others to learn a new map. shotcoder works a 40hour job and goes to school and can still competently play on these maps that most people don't play on regularly. obviously he learns them fast or has played them in the past.
there are 24 hours in a day and everyone has lives to tend to, whether it be a job, school, sleep, what ever, but the point is that learning new maps makes it difficult for other people.
if you want to look at it as them being better players, then go for it. i look at it as an advantage in a learning process in general.
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Kevin (1004) is correct. When it comes to Starcraft, I have my share of retardations! I blame my Caucasian heritage.
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On February 07 2012 08:12 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 08:09 1004 wrote:
lol lonelyprobe
some people are better at math than others
some people learn maps faster than others
herp derp So they are superior at an aspect of the game, within the confines of the game. How does that not make them better players again?
So Jealous, your of the opinion that the better tennis player would win if the tennis court was filled with obstacles to jump over as opposed to the standard tennis court? lol...
Naybe you don't feel as harsh towards Triathlon but to me it's so different that I think it's a fair comparison. You have literally 5 expansions on top of each other. The natural is so small and clumped. The map looks sloppy. Eggs to kill with arbiter hiding them. I could go on and on the map isn't even close to a standard map.
So saying the better player wins on non-standard is no different then the tennis court analogy.
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On February 07 2012 08:19 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 08:12 Jealous wrote:On February 07 2012 08:09 1004 wrote:
lol lonelyprobe
some people are better at math than others
some people learn maps faster than others
herp derp So they are superior at an aspect of the game, within the confines of the game. How does that not make them better players again? So Jealous, your of the opinion that the better tennis player would win if the tennis court was filled with obstacles to jump over as opposed to the standard tennis court? lol... Naybe you don't feel as harsh towards Triathlon but to me it's so different that I think it's a fair comparison. You have literally 5 expansions on top of each other. The natural is so small and clumped. The map looks sloppy. Eggs to kill with arbiter hiding them. I could go on and on the map isn't even close to a standard map. So saying the better player wins on non-standard is no different then the tennis court analogy.
No. I'm saying that both people have the option of learning the details of the court beforehand, and if one player learns them better than the other, then he is a better player given the constraints of the tournament. In a different tournament on a different court, he might be inferior. But given the constraints, he is superior.
This argument is pretty pointless.
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Thinking about it, a better format woulda been like:
Both players veto one(or two maps).
First map gets chosen out of non-veto'd map.
Next maps are picked by last loser.
But it's kinda late now.
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On February 07 2012 08:53 Snipinpanda wrote:
Thinking about it, a better format woulda been like:
Both players veto one(or two maps).
First map gets chosen out of non-veto'd map.
Next maps are picked by last loser.
But it's kinda late now.
I agree. Also, like I said before, having the entire map list up from the start.
Well, for next time! ^^; Hope there will be more of these despite the drama.
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On February 07 2012 08:53 Snipinpanda wrote:
Thinking about it, a better format woulda been like:
Both players veto one(or two maps).
First map gets chosen out of non-veto'd map.
Next maps are picked by last loser.
But it's kinda late now.
If you could veto 2 maps this would be perfect.
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On February 07 2012 09:01 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 08:53 Snipinpanda wrote:
Thinking about it, a better format woulda been like:
Both players veto one(or two maps).
First map gets chosen out of non-veto'd map.
Next maps are picked by last loser.
But it's kinda late now. I agree. Also, like I said before, having the entire map list up from the start. Well, for next time! ^^; Hope there will be more of these despite the drama.
That's the plan haha And what's a tournament without drama?
NO ONE FORGET! TONIGHTS CAST IS AT 9:30PM EST! THAT'S LIKE,.... 2 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES AWAY.
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On February 07 2012 00:38 tryummm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 23:41 S2Glow wrote:
imo C rank game nobody will want to see if its standard all the way so yeah weird strat is nicer to watch. weird map = train a player thinking process therefore improve the mentality a bit so playing a game with a strat in mind will make that player improve even faster.
my opinion ^^ Practicing cheese builds will hardly improve a player's ability to cheese or improve the thinking they approach the game with. However, learning the mechanics of the game and manipulating them is what creates a strong cheese player. If you don't know the mechanics of the game and how you are forcing your opponent to feel uncomfortable and adapt to your build with strong mechanics, you are playing a coin flip game. In other words, you are hoping for a cheap win rather than having the ability to make a game plan that will literally force your opponent to be mechanically competent by employing different variations in your 'creative cheese strategy.' If you don't go through this process then your build is based on pure luck, you will not see long term improvements, and you're wasting both players time from the perspective of skill development. If you want to avoid the coin flip cheese approach then learning how the game works first by standard play, then by incorporating cheese strategies will yield consistent results and long term improvement as long as you can find opponents who are mechanically competent, which you probably won't find in a C rank tournament or even on iCCup. That being said, I also don't understand the map pool for this tournament and many other foreign tournaments at all levels.
yeah , weird strat = force your opponent to employ different variation while you are somehow in advantage. example we may think scout is a useless unit but some still use Scout for a purpose but of course it wont work on pro level. i am not talking about cheese lol , example will be jaedong vs Snow on Triathlon , is so different that is entertaining. so thats my point , not practicing all in bunker rush , 4 pool etc..
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ATTENTION!
The cast is getting ready to start!!! Be sure to tune in here! Stream
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we we we so excited!
we so excite!
we gonna watch broodwar today!!!
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neko T_T the first z v z haha
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I really would like a grudge match with ShotCoder bo7 (says he was on the phone and he could win a BO7)
Also a grudge match with Lumire BO7 (Noones boy and noone thinks I am super chobo)
Also a grudge match with fold ( asking how do people let me win since I am so chobo).
If Sayle or Noone/ someone else would be willing to cast this. To spice things up I will even be willing to put some money on the line if they win (IE: probably paypal).
EDIT: I reserve the right to use some hotkeys. I normally use none but I do know a few.
I won't mention this anymore until tourney is over though as I don't want to take any spotlight every from that. Just want to see if anyones interested.
g'night
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I said I was on the phone but I never said I would win a BO7 but I will gladly accept a BO7 grudgematch as long as it is casted. I'd be willing to throw a little bet on the table as well. We can discuss everything when the tour is over so you can focus on what cheese you will perform in the RO8. =P
btw you better win.
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On February 07 2012 15:12 johny23 wrote:
I really would like a grudge match with ShotCoder bo7 (says he was on the phone and he could win a BO7)
Also a grudge match with Lumire BO7 (Noones boy and noone thinks I am super chobo)
Also a grudge match with fold ( asking how do people let me win since I am so chobo).
If Sayle or Noone/ someone else would be willing to cast this. To spice things up I will even be willing to put some money on the line if they win (IE: probably paypal).
EDIT: I reserve the right to use some hotkeys. I normally use none but I do know a few.
I won't mention this anymore until tourney is over though as I don't want to take any spotlight every from that. Just want to see if anyones interested.
g'night
Well, we already knew that.
-.-
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lmao the drama is too epic, it'd be funny if he lost all three challenges xd
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is there gonna be another one of these soon?
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On February 07 2012 16:05 ArvickHero wrote:
is there gonna be another one of these soon?
I'm thinking of organizing another one of these as well as a possible C Ranks Teamleague if their is sufficient interest.
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On February 07 2012 16:08 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 16:05 ArvickHero wrote:
is there gonna be another one of these soon? I'm thinking of organizing another one of these as well as a possible C Ranks Teamleague if their is sufficient interest.
how would a teamleague work?
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On February 07 2012 16:11 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 16:08 L_Master wrote:On February 07 2012 16:05 ArvickHero wrote:
is there gonna be another one of these soon? I'm thinking of organizing another one of these as well as a possible C Ranks Teamleague if their is sufficient interest. how would a teamleague work?
I'm guessing kinda like CPL back in the day where there will be teams of 6-8 players playing each other PL style.
I would actually love there to be another CPL since this time I could actually coach...
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On February 07 2012 16:08 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 16:05 ArvickHero wrote:
is there gonna be another one of these soon? I'm thinking of organizing another one of these as well as a possible C Ranks Teamleague if their is sufficient interest.
I would play in a C rank teamleague
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I would play as well.
Johny23 how could you leave me off your hit list?!
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On February 07 2012 16:08 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 16:05 ArvickHero wrote:
is there gonna be another one of these soon? I'm thinking of organizing another one of these as well as a possible C Ranks Teamleague if their is sufficient interest.
I'd play for sure as long as you schedule it in weekends~~
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Can me and kiante cast the GM together?
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On February 08 2012 03:41 puppykiller wrote:
Can me and kiante cast the GM together?
This would be awesome.
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On February 08 2012 03:41 puppykiller wrote:
Can me and kiante cast the GM together?
GM?
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On February 08 2012 05:37 Yaqoob wrote:
GM = Grudge Match
Oh right! Duh tt
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so when are the rest of the ro16 matches casted?
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yeah I don't think I can play until this weekend the earliest.
Sorry, please DQ me and sorry for the inconvenience.
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On February 08 2012 03:41 puppykiller wrote:
Can me and kiante cast the GM together?
Oh god, I don't know what's better
The fact that there's a GM or the fact that pk and kiante are casting together.
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On February 08 2012 06:42 puppykiller wrote:
so when are the rest of the ro16 matches casted?
It was supposed to start like, 20 minutes ago TT L_Master went for a run and nOnOne is doing homework LOL I think they'll probably just cast some during the Ro8 cast since I don't have a lot of games for the Ro8 >> *Cough cough*
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On February 07 2012 22:31 Jealous wrote:
I would play as well.
Johny23 how could you leave me off your hit list?!
Count me in too
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TUNE IN!
The left over games from the Ro16 and a couple matches of the Ro8 will be casted very soon! Tune in and watch to see who won :D
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I'll just post here since I don't know where else to ask:
for some reason I can't watch twitch.tv streams with few viewers (I assume that it depends on the amount of viewers, sayle's stream just worked fine)...anybody got the same problem?
Maybe it's a german / european problem?
Or is it me?
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On February 08 2012 08:20 Prof. Protoss wrote:
I'll just post here since I don't know where else to ask:
for some reason I can't watch twitch.tv streams with few viewers (I assume that it depends on the amount of viewers, sayle's stream just worked fine)...anybody got the same problem?
Maybe it's a german / european problem?
Or is it me?
I had that same problem for a really long time and all of a sudden it fixed itself. I can tell you I don't think it's on your side. It has something to do with their servers or something.
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working now...looks like 30 is the magic number, I don't know
thanks for the help
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On February 08 2012 08:53 Prof. Protoss wrote:
working now...looks like 30 is the magic number, I don't know
thanks for the help
I forgot how epic your games were haha
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Thanks for organizing the tournament, I had a lot of fun
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On February 08 2012 09:23 Prof. Protoss wrote:Thanks for organizing the tournament, I had a lot of fun
I second this!
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imo , lmaster need to work on his mouse movement because he miss a lot of vital point of the game and yeah he stuck on 1 screen too much.. so thats my opinion , for viewer pleasure try to move more and click more
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On February 08 2012 12:57 S2Glow wrote:
imo , lmaster need to work on his movement because he miss a lot of vital point and yeah he stuck too much.. so thats my opinion , for pleasure try to move more
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On February 08 2012 11:15 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 09:23 Prof. Protoss wrote:Thanks for organizing the tournament, I had a lot of fun I second this!
Thanks you guys! I had a lot of fun doing it and I can't wait for the finals! Hoping they are going to be epic.
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On February 08 2012 12:57 S2Glow wrote:
imo , lmaster need to work on his mouse movement because he miss a lot of vital point of the game and yeah he stuck on 1 screen too much.. so thats my opinion , for viewer pleasure try to move more and click more
I'm staying on one screen too much? That's new. Guess I've gone to far the other way because for quite a while everyone was telling me I was overly clicky and too spastic.
Thanks for the feedback sir.
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On February 08 2012 14:07 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 12:57 S2Glow wrote:
imo , lmaster need to work on his mouse movement because he miss a lot of vital point of the game and yeah he stuck on 1 screen too much.. so thats my opinion , for viewer pleasure try to move more and click more I'm staying on one screen too much? That's new. Guess I've gone to far the other way because for quite a while everyone was telling me I was overly clicky and too spastic. Thanks for the feedback sir.
Someone said this in chat earlier and I agree, you need to click on the units during the early battles more imo. To check health and etc. Otherwise I think you are pretty good with keeping up with the action, from my games at least. I think maybe check the minimap a little more often to flash to expansions as they come up and etc. Overall you do a great job, thanks!
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If puppykiller makes round of four, that is like the equivalent of being the  Modesty of this tournament.
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SUPER EPIC AWESOME NEWS!
Lumire is super awesome and doesn't want to win his Ro8 with a w.o. so he's gonna play Probe right now!
Probe had some internet issues earlier, but now it's all better.
Why am I telling you this?
BECAUSE! Freaking Snipin_Panda and LRM)nOoNe are casting it on Panda's channel right now! Tune in for the epicness that is about to happen.
Stream
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+ Show Spoiler [tourney spoilers] +GG, thanks Lumire for letting me play even though I was supposed to be d'q.ed. And sorry for my shit play to anyone that obs'ed Couldn't play for a few days. Agh gl rest of tourney everyone~
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On February 09 2012 13:07 GasMaskSociety wrote:If puppykiller makes round of four, that is like the equivalent of being the Modesty of this tournament.
shots have been fired
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On February 09 2012 14:33 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 13:07 GasMaskSociety wrote:If puppykiller makes round of four, that is like the equivalent of being the Modesty of this tournament. shots have been fired
Only being honest...:/
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On February 09 2012 14:33 1004 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 13:07 GasMaskSociety wrote:If puppykiller makes round of four, that is like the equivalent of being the Modesty of this tournament. shots have been fired
Buttbuddy responds to the call.
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On February 09 2012 15:45 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 14:33 1004 wrote:On February 09 2012 13:07 GasMaskSociety wrote:If puppykiller makes round of four, that is like the equivalent of being the Modesty of this tournament. shots have been fired Buttbuddy responds to the call.
more shots from a lonely worker unit have been fired
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Im looking forward to tournament #2 or C clanleague. Are you going to organise something like that Shimy?
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On February 09 2012 21:11 burbon wrote:
Im looking forward to tournament #2 or C clanleague. Are you going to organise something like that Shimy?
I want to. I think L_Master said he was looking to do the next one though. Either way, it's gonna happen haha :D
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I enjoyed watching last night, I think that what they were saying on improvement is if you click the minimap more to jump screen and see what's going on opposed to clicking on the screen or scrolling (which looks less clean)
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Sorry that me and panda's game are so late. We tried playing yesterday but the lag was really abysmal. The coffee shop was really busy with people watching videos of lonelyprobe carefully shoving twinkies up into his anus in such a way as to not to allow them to erupt into a creamy explosion until his ass had consumed at least 7.
We will play the other two games today.
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On February 10 2012 01:26 puppykiller wrote:
Sorry that me and panda's game are so late. We tried playing yesterday but the lag was really abysmal. The coffee shop was really busy with people watching videos of lonelyprobe carefully shoving twinkies up into his anus in such a way as to not to allow them to erupt into a creamy explosion until his ass had consumed at least 7.
We will play the other two games today.
Kk, sounds good.
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On February 10 2012 01:13 dRaW wrote:
I enjoyed watching last night, I think that what they were saying on improvement is if you click the minimap more to jump screen and see what's going on opposed to clicking on the screen or scrolling (which looks less clean)
Excellent! Thanks for the feedback, and, as always very much appreciated; pretty hard to improve if you don't know what your doing wrong after all.
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On February 10 2012 01:13 dRaW wrote:
I enjoyed watching last night, I think that what they were saying on improvement is if you click the minimap more to jump screen and see what's going on opposed to clicking on the screen or scrolling (which looks less clean)
Actually that might've been my cast.
>__>;
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what no fair! I wanna cast a round!
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On February 10 2012 06:06 puppykiller wrote:
what no fair! I wanna cast a round!
If you finish your games, you can cast them as long as you tell me so I can hype it. BTW, Panda is on right now
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I wouldn't mind casting a round during the weekend.
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This really sucks that I got knocked. I really wanted to be the one to knock lumire out of the tournament. If he wins this I will rage.
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On February 10 2012 07:12 Yaqoob wrote:
I wouldn't mind casting a round during the weekend.
You have to ask PuppyKiller because the rest of the casters are set
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On February 10 2012 09:03 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 07:12 Yaqoob wrote:
I wouldn't mind casting a round during the weekend. You have to ask PuppyKiller because the rest of the casters are set
i'm going to dual cast with puppykiller probably ))))
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iam really sorry to bring this up again but sl]..puppyklr- has extremely bad mannered me. I hate bm players. He showing off reps of friendly games and cheesing me in friendly practice games.
I want a BO7 match vs this kid almost as much as shotcoder and lameire( aka lumire ).
This is my official challenge so you can either take it or dodge puppyklr And yes I have so many grudgematches because theres so many bm noobs that always have to bm and trash talk my skill AKA LUMIRE,FOLD, SHOTCODER AND NOW PUPPYKLR
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he cheesed once in game 3, played completely standard in games 1 and 2. and i liked your 6gate all in in game 2.
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How is it possible to play with 48apm?
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On February 10 2012 12:40 Yaqoob wrote:
How is it possible to play with 48apm?
Hes protoss
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holy shit its cartoon johnny, that shyt hilarious
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Woo, updated results.
Sorry panda but S2glow fighting! You got this. ^^
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On February 10 2012 17:27 fold wrote:
Woo, updated results.
Sorry panda but S2glow fighting! You got this. ^^
Whaat, has he seriously made it all the way?
somehow I feel less bad about my game towards him now, unless he jsut cheesed all the way there too
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On February 11 2012 01:42 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 17:27 fold wrote:
Woo, updated results.
Sorry panda but S2glow fighting! You got this. ^^ Whaat, has he seriously made it all the way? somehow I feel less bad about my game towards him now, unless he jsut cheesed all the way there too
Not saying he dosen't deserve to be there but he had by far
the easiest bracket.
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On February 11 2012 01:56 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 01:42 Iplaythings wrote:On February 10 2012 17:27 fold wrote:
Woo, updated results.
Sorry panda but S2glow fighting! You got this. ^^ Whaat, has he seriously made it all the way? somehow I feel less bad about my game towards him now, unless he jsut cheesed all the way there too Not saying he dosen't deserve to be there but he had by far the easiest bracket.
Of course he deserves it. Even if he cheesed his way there, which he didn't, he still had to beat all those players along the way. -.-
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lol , so you saying neko is easy? you vs him then . see who win lol
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so when that C league gonna start?
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Has Lumire vs Probe been casted?
I'd love to see those games.
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On February 11 2012 05:51 Prof. Protoss wrote:
Has Lumire vs Probe been casted?
I'd love to see those games.
They have and I don't think you would Panda and nOoNe casted them:VOD
It begins at 2:00:00.
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Why would you show the VOD T_T I didn't play any games that week until I had to play the series.
So embarrassing ~_~
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Well, you beat me, so I want to see how you did vs another Zerg
ty shimy
edit: saw the games
the desti one was hilarious. The tank staring at the drone mining out the back :D
I should have used that build
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On February 11 2012 07:22 Prof. Protoss wrote:Well, you beat me, so I want to see how you did vs another Zerg ty shimy edit: saw the games the desti one was hilarious. The tank staring at the drone mining out the back :D I should have used that build
LRM)nOoNe yelling at that time was so hilarious LOL
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On February 10 2012 10:24 1004 wrote:
he cheesed once in game 3, played completely standard in games 1 and 2. and i liked your 6gate all in in game 2.
Might want to check the results of the BO7. Also might want to stop assuming you always know best.
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On February 11 2012 14:43 whiske wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 10:24 1004 wrote:
he cheesed once in game 3, played completely standard in games 1 and 2. and i liked your 6gate all in in game 2. Might want to check the results of the BO7. Also might want to stop assuming you always know best.
i watched it live and i'm quite disappointed, but i'm not assuming that i know best when i clearly state what happened in the games
lolololo
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have the games between SHotcoder and johny23 been casted? Or are there any replays? I couldn't find anything.
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Better see some of these players in ISL3.
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On February 15 2012 10:37 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
have the games between SHotcoder and johny23 been casted? Or are there any replays? I couldn't find anything.
First off they were casted by noone at one point, and second why would you want to watch those abortions we call games?
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I checked the twitch.tv account of L_master, but none of the RO16 videos contain that games. I enjoy watching you lose, especially in a manner you don't enjoy :D
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