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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:52 Release wrote: I bet brave learned that from Shine. He went for a "cannon bust." I blame Shine for all the new ''strategies'' on Khan. I bet he has something to do with it. FLAME, WHERE ARE YOU? DON'T DODGE! | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
 January seems to go  Stork , JangBi for 2 locked in. And then the next three can be any combination of Grape,  Reality, TurN, RorO and Shine | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:52 Release wrote: I bet brave learned that from Shine. He went for a "cannon bust." You like to play on words, dont you?  | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
meh, I don't get why the team 8 coach insists on fielding his aweful Protoss line up.. Baby is far more consistent and I have a lot more faith in Killer than in Jaehoon and Tyson | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:51 o[twist] wrote: if they were in-form? sure. baby has phenomenally abusive TvP when he's playing well and killer is a top zerg talent. I don't know about baby against two of the best PvTers ever, but baby against brave would have been a far better choice. Baby is already 2-0 on that map, not to mention 3-0 this PL. What's the use of saving him to clinch in you can't make it there in the first place. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:53 Dakkas wrote: Baby is good but against the two best PvTers? Baby can't even beat Bisu using carriers and you expect him to beat two PvTers better than Bisu? Really? REALLY?!?!?! And Killer is also good however he isn't as good as he was near the end of last season EDIT: I'm not saying they'll get rolled but I would never bet on them against in-form Stork and Jangbi | ||
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oBlade
United States6478 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:50 o[twist] wrote: against 3 protoss (on a team full of protoss) team 8 fielded 2 mediocre protoss and an underperforming terran. they benched one zerg and sent their other into a ZvZ where he nearly fell victim to a bo loss. that's being out-coached if you ask me. I saw someone mention "BO loss" earlier, maybe you, and it just isn't appropriate. It's confusing the fickle nature of low-econ play which is inherent to ZvZ with actual build order losses. BO losses really don't exist in ZvZ now, and certainly not when Jaedong is playing. Although I understand the need to somehow paint JD as being in a bad spot so we can marvel at how awesome he is, there was no danger of BO losing, just a danger of losing. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:54 Release wrote: no Shine this season. Probably waiting for Bisu to win some. He's preparing for his inevitable encounter with Bisu in the next OSL. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Oh sorry I didn't express myself well, I actually meant from hp.Shell, since he said "my first successful LR thread". Indeed, Amnesia ..... On December 21 2011 17:50 GDbushido wrote: 45 minute TvT and half the thread falls asleep? In that case that thread was really successful. Stork impressive reaver micro, intense JvZ, and followed by a double portion of cheese. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
If Jaehoon scouted correctly and Sea didn't try to be greedy, this match could easily have ended 3-1 in Team 8's favor. | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:54 Fontong wrote: I don't know about baby against two of the best PvTers ever, but baby against brave would have been a far better choice. Baby is already 2-0 on that map, not to mention 3-0 this PL. What's the use of saving him to clinch in you can't make it there in the first place. Yeah, the saving for last strategy isn't even sound. Losing 3-2 is better than losing 3-1 because +/- games matters in placement. If Team 8 ties for 4th but is -1 behind another team, then they miss the playoffs. Play Baby first since it's a better chance of a win. | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:55 oBlade wrote: I saw someone mention "BO loss" earlier, maybe you, and it just isn't appropriate. It's confusing the fickle nature of low-econ play which is inherent to ZvZ with actual build order losses. BO losses really don't exist in ZvZ now, and certainly not when Jaedong is playing. Although I understand the need to somehow paint JD as being in a bad spot so we can marvel at how awesome he is, there was no danger of BO losing, just a danger of losing. i don't understand this post, but i'm pretty sure it's wrong. if you can lose in a minute to early aggression, but are able to avoid the loss by luckily scouting your opponent's build, that's a bo loss. | ||
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:54 iSometric wrote: Was jh screwed no matter what? I would think so, cannons within mineral range, as well as shield battery, the zealots wouldn't be able to take out the cannons and the zealots brave had. He pulled the probes but he gave up, he's lose too much defending I think | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote: Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form? Yes. Especially Baby. | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Who has the greatest ELO PvT peak of all-time again? JangBi. Oh, who's #2 of all-time? Stork. He said in-form. In-form means Baby, a player with a losing vP record, up against the greatest PvT players ever. Ever. Your faith in him is commendable, but no. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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