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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 08:53:26
December 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#1041
On December 21 2011 17:52 Release wrote:
I bet brave learned that from Shine. He went for a "cannon bust."


I blame Shine for all the new ''strategies'' on Khan.

I bet he has something to do with it.

FLAME, WHERE ARE YOU?

DON'T DODGE!
WriterXiao8~~
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#1042
Khan is pretty deep.
(Z)January seems to go (P)Stork , (P)JangBi for 2 locked in. And then the next three can be any combination of (P)Grape, (T)Reality, (T)TurN, (Z)RorO and (Z)Shine
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1043
On December 21 2011 17:52 Release wrote:
I bet brave learned that from Shine. He went for a "cannon bust."


You like to play on words, dont you?
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1044
Was jh screwed no matter what?
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Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1045
go Jaedong 8!

meh, I don't get why the team 8 coach insists on fielding his aweful Protoss line up..

Baby is far more consistent and I have a lot more faith in Killer than in Jaehoon and Tyson
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1046
no Shine this season. Probably waiting for Bisu to win some.
☺
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1047
On December 21 2011 17:51 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:48 Release wrote:
JvZ got the momentum going and MBC just drops dead.


Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone

Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form?


if they were in-form? sure. baby has phenomenally abusive TvP when he's playing well and killer is a top zerg talent.

I don't know about baby against two of the best PvTers ever, but baby against brave would have been a far better choice.

Baby is already 2-0 on that map, not to mention 3-0 this PL. What's the use of saving him to clinch in you can't make it there in the first place.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#1048
On December 21 2011 17:53 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:51 o[twist] wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:48 Release wrote:
JvZ got the momentum going and MBC just drops dead.


Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone

Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form?


if they were in-form? sure. baby has phenomenally abusive TvP when he's playing well and killer is a top zerg talent.


Baby is good but against the two best PvTers? Baby can't even beat Bisu using carriers and you expect him to beat two PvTers better than Bisu? Really? REALLY?!?!?!

And Killer is also good however he isn't as good as he was near the end of last season

EDIT: I'm not saying they'll get rolled but I would never bet on them against in-form Stork and Jangbi


oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6248 Posts
December 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#1049
On December 21 2011 17:50 o[twist] wrote:
against 3 protoss (on a team full of protoss) team 8 fielded 2 mediocre protoss and an underperforming terran. they benched one zerg and sent their other into a ZvZ where he nearly fell victim to a bo loss.

that's being out-coached if you ask me.

I saw someone mention "BO loss" earlier, maybe you, and it just isn't appropriate. It's confusing the fickle nature of low-econ play which is inherent to ZvZ with actual build order losses. BO losses really don't exist in ZvZ now, and certainly not when Jaedong is playing. Although I understand the need to somehow paint JD as being in a bad spot so we can marvel at how awesome he is, there was no danger of BO losing, just a danger of losing.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#1050
On December 21 2011 17:54 Release wrote:
no Shine this season. Probably waiting for Bisu to win some.

He's preparing for his inevitable encounter with Bisu in the next OSL.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#1051
On December 21 2011 17:50 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:49 endy wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:47 hp.Shell wrote:
Thanks everyone for my first successful LR Thread!


Has there been an unsuccessful LR thread before ?

Amnesia :/


Oh sorry I didn't express myself well, I actually meant from hp.Shell, since he said "my first successful LR thread".

Indeed, Amnesia .....

On December 21 2011 17:50 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:49 endy wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:47 hp.Shell wrote:
Thanks everyone for my first successful LR Thread!


Has there been an unsuccessful LR thread before ?
45 minute TvT and half the thread falls asleep?


In that case that thread was really successful. Stork impressive reaver micro, intense JvZ, and followed by a double portion of cheese.
ॐ
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
December 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#1052
Jaedong 8 ...here we go all over again =(
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#1053
What's with the anti-cheese hate? For one thing, it's up to the guy getting cheesed to scout well. Jaehoon didn't scout behind his main. That's his fault. Plus Jangbi didn't really cheese. If anything, you should fault terrans for using their cheesy Rax->Expo build. If Sea had made a factory Jangbi would've been behind. But when every terran try to econ cheese in TvP, they're bound to get builds against them.

If Jaehoon scouted correctly and Sea didn't try to be greedy, this match could easily have ended 3-1 in Team 8's favor.
Meh
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#1054
On December 21 2011 17:54 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:51 o[twist] wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:48 Release wrote:
JvZ got the momentum going and MBC just drops dead.


Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone

Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form?


if they were in-form? sure. baby has phenomenally abusive TvP when he's playing well and killer is a top zerg talent.

I don't know about baby against two of the best PvTers ever, but baby against brave would have been a far better choice.

Baby is already 2-0 on that map, not to mention 3-0 this PL. What's the use of saving him to clinch in you can't make it there in the first place.


Yeah, the saving for last strategy isn't even sound. Losing 3-2 is better than losing 3-1 because +/- games matters in placement. If Team 8 ties for 4th but is -1 behind another team, then they miss the playoffs. Play Baby first since it's a better chance of a win.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#1055
Team 8 kind of needed to win this to stay relevant, I'm afraid that if they don't show a winning performance in round 1, they'll have to go another round without a sponsor and that's going to be a bit tricky as they have CJ left. I hope they can at least defeat STX...
Fly Jaedong, fly!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#1056
On December 21 2011 17:55 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:50 o[twist] wrote:
against 3 protoss (on a team full of protoss) team 8 fielded 2 mediocre protoss and an underperforming terran. they benched one zerg and sent their other into a ZvZ where he nearly fell victim to a bo loss.

that's being out-coached if you ask me.

I saw someone mention "BO loss" earlier, maybe you, and it just isn't appropriate. It's confusing the fickle nature of low-econ play which is inherent to ZvZ with actual build order losses. BO losses really don't exist in ZvZ now, and certainly not when Jaedong is playing. Although I understand the need to somehow paint JD as being in a bad spot so we can marvel at how awesome he is, there was no danger of BO losing, just a danger of losing.


i don't understand this post, but i'm pretty sure it's wrong. if you can lose in a minute to early aggression, but are able to avoid the loss by luckily scouting your opponent's build, that's a bo loss.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 21 2011 08:57 GMT
#1057
On December 21 2011 17:54 iSometric wrote:
Was jh screwed no matter what?

I would think so, cannons within mineral range, as well as shield battery, the zealots wouldn't be able to take out the cannons and the zealots brave had. He pulled the probes but he gave up, he's lose too much defending I think
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
December 21 2011 08:57 GMT
#1058
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:48 Release wrote:
JvZ got the momentum going and MBC just drops dead.


Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone

Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form?

Yes. Especially Baby.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 09:00:05
December 21 2011 08:59 GMT
#1059
On December 21 2011 17:57 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:49 Dakkas wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:48 Release wrote:
JvZ got the momentum going and MBC just drops dead.


Oh quit this crap, Stork and Jangbi in two of their best match-ups. Brave pulling some retarded cheese that could get just about anyone

Are you telling me you honestly believe that Baby or Killer could take on Stork or Jangbi in-form?

Yes. Especially Baby.


Who has the greatest ELO PvT peak of all-time again? JangBi. Oh, who's #2 of all-time? Stork.

He said in-form. In-form means Baby, a player with a losing vP record, up against the greatest PvT players ever.

Ever.

Your faith in him is commendable, but no.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 21 2011 08:59 GMT
#1060
Sea no longer consistent in proleague matches , Tyson aka bridge not winning games like he used to because stork is just too good , Jaedong with superior muta controls wins over roro , Jaehoon could have sent a probe and check around his base so he doesn't die to stupid cannon rushes.
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