DONT GIVE UP SKT FANS! Its not over till its over and the team still has some good players (although SoO hasn't been playing all to hot this pro league since his osl run). I am curious to see if Samsung will send shine out they haven't played him much so far.

Nikon

Bulgaria5710 Posts

December 17 2011 06:27 GMT

#849

Lol, Sun even saw the factories with that obs. Still couldn't stop the iron wall from advancing. Nice.

pylonsalad

Canada649 Posts

December 17 2011 06:27 GMT

#850

5 fac is not cheese but it is designed to punish early 3rd.

Shurayuki

Germany2665 Posts

December 17 2011 06:27 GMT

#851

On December 17 2011 15:26 Taekwon wrote:

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tbh i think those 4 goons are over emphasized...

the minimap showed healthy counts regardless and his army was being pushed back anyways

yeaaaahhh kinda, but turn was unsieged right then and he might've been pushed back because of that if he had more goons

Hero.SP

Chile711 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#852

no cheese = no fue queso

Turbovolver

Australia2416 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#853

On December 17 2011 15:20 renzy wrote:
I hope you realize that by the time Bisu decides to attack, and moves into position to attack, theres going to be 2 shuttleless reavers out against a shuttle reaver. Plus, Outlier is an extremely hard map to attack into because of the small choke. This means it is extremely hard to snipe shuttless reavers, making reavers extremely effective. There is no timing. But if you want to believe there is, then go ahead, but no progamer would attack at that time. I don't get your point about running with his extra goons doing nothing in the middle of the map. I have no seen any progamer try to pressure the other with dragoon zealots when their builds mirror each other.

But their builds don't mirror each other!!!

Bisu has 2 gates to Pure's 1.

He has 8 goons to Pure's 6 at one point. That's enough to check for an expansion, even if you want to argue it would not be enough to overcome defender's advantage.

As for your other point about it not being a real timing, I'd argue that aiming to use superior micro with your shuttle is a better plan than waiting outside your much slower nat to die.

edit: And this is the last I'm saying on this topic because I'm sure the rest of the thread is sick of it and you guys are just not getting it. Saying I don't understand PvP when I called Stork as being way ahead even after he lost his first push in that game, while all the T1 fans yelled out "WOOOOOW BISU HOLDS".

DyEnasTy

United States3714 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#854

On December 17 2011 15:26 Spica wrote:

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Terrible terrible choice of song

or AWESOME!!!

Give us Fantasy vs Jangbi!

Spica

United States5582 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#855

Wtf commentators giving hairstyle tips to TurN, okay

Taekwon

United States8155 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#856

On December 17 2011 15:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

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When you type gg about 20 minutes after the game is actually over, because Fantasy, was notorious for never leaving the game at a normal time.

alternatively, u can think of it romantically - hanging on to the fantasy of winning

TheShimmy

United States1808 Posts

December 17 2011 06:28 GMT

#857

On December 17 2011 15:25 ScoutingDrone wrote:
What does "fantasy gg timing" mean?

If you have one SCV, send it into battle, and when its on red health, gg.

Seriously though, Fantasy will not, WILL NOT, ever, EVERRRRRR, gg early or even reasonably. You have to walk over and smack him in the booth to get a gg.