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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 27 2011 07:06 GMT
#1761
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.
Meh
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 27 2011 07:10 GMT
#1762
On November 27 2011 16:03 illidanx wrote:
yes! first win of khan this season. no ace match and no winner league is a good change for khan.


Because less chance for January to troll us?
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 27 2011 07:11 GMT
#1763
On November 27 2011 16:10 Crisium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:03 illidanx wrote:
yes! first win of khan this season. no ace match and no winner league is a good change for khan.


Because less chance for January to troll us?

Precisely!
=)
[TLMS] REBOOT
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 27 2011 07:16 GMT
#1764
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 27 2011 07:21 GMT
#1765
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


Perhaps, but he is pretty much a rookie and under severe pressure as it is the make or break match for the day, so he should be fairly nervous, will maybe go away with experience.
WriterXiao8~~
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 07:30:43
November 27 2011 07:29 GMT
#1766
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.
Meh
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 27 2011 08:13 GMT
#1767
On November 27 2011 16:29 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.

Shy got to 200 at a normal pace, he just couldn't get any expo up because reality denied his 4th over and over. Reality was behind in the timing in hitting 200. If it was flash, he would of gotten that 200 mark much faster than reality and would of moved out before shy's economy stabilized a bit.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 27 2011 08:19 GMT
#1768
Fuck I overslept it-_-.
Knew Khan was going to win tho,gz to them.
Cackle™
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 27 2011 08:33 GMT
#1769
where are the vods gonna be?!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 27 2011 09:21 GMT
#1770
On November 23 2011 18:48 Ryo wrote:
Khan 3-2.

Yup.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 27 2011 10:16 GMT
#1771
YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH STORKKKKKK!!! God I was so nervous before that game, but then he went and owned and made me so proud ♥ And Jangbi too, what a goddamn beast. Khan ftw!

Mad that the two guys behind me put up their signs at the same time as me, so my sign didn't get a close up T__T

Writer:o
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 27 2011 10:23 GMT
#1772
On November 27 2011 19:16 Kiett wrote:
YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH STORKKKKKK!!! God I was so nervous before that game, but then he went and owned and made me so proud ♥ And Jangbi too, what a goddamn beast. Khan ftw!

Mad that the two guys behind me put up their signs at the same time as me, so my sign didn't get a close up T__T



Poor kiett
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 12:41:29
November 27 2011 12:39 GMT
#1773
On November 27 2011 17:13 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:29 baubo wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.

Shy got to 200 at a normal pace, he just couldn't get any expo up because reality denied his 4th over and over. Reality was behind in the timing in hitting 200. If it was flash, he would of gotten that 200 mark much faster than reality and would of moved out before shy's economy stabilized a bit.


Watch this game and watch Flash vs Jangbi. Watch their harass and push potential mid-game. Reality couldn't maco like Flash because he made and lost a dozen vultures to limit the 4th. He also had tons of vultures to lay mines in order for his tanks to kill Shy's third. Neither of which would've been possible with Flash's build. On the flip side. Look at how slowly Jangbi maxed out. That's because he was busy making gazillion Nexuses and gateways at the other main rather than macroing up an army.

Of course it doesn't matter with Flash because his push itself is so terrifying that he doesn't care to do all that crap beforehand. But as I pointed out, Reality's push was quite mediocre. And he won mostly because his advantage was so big and Shy isn't at Bisu/Best/Stork/Jangbi's level of PvT.
Meh
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
November 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#1774
Impressive game from Jangbi
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#1775
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!


3-2. Good picks by Jannie. :D

Can't wait to watch these games.
kiss kiss fall in love
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
November 27 2011 14:57 GMT
#1776
2bad i couldnt stay up to watch the games, glad we won, plus stork beating zero for a change!
go khan!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
November 27 2011 15:26 GMT
#1777
On November 27 2011 17:33 johnnywup wrote:
where are the vods gonna be?!

In the same place they always are: Small Vod Thread
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
November 27 2011 15:53 GMT
#1778
im glad i went to bed before the last game ended

congrats to reality and samsung khan
ace hwaiting!!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
November 27 2011 15:57 GMT
#1779
I woke up like 20 min later thinking i would be just in time for the first game with the commercials but 2 games were already finished..

At least Stork beat his zerg nemesis Zero and Reality game wasnt half bad too. Gonna watch the vods for the first 2 now.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
November 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#1780
Yay! Khan! Too bad I was unable to watch...
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