• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:45
CEST 02:45
KST 09:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Classic: "Serral is Like Hitting a Brick Wall" The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 547 users

[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs Samsung Khan - Page 89

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 87 88 89 90 Next
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 27 2011 07:06 GMT
#1761
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.
Meh
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 27 2011 07:10 GMT
#1762
On November 27 2011 16:03 illidanx wrote:
yes! first win of khan this season. no ace match and no winner league is a good change for khan.


Because less chance for January to troll us?
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 27 2011 07:11 GMT
#1763
On November 27 2011 16:10 Crisium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:03 illidanx wrote:
yes! first win of khan this season. no ace match and no winner league is a good change for khan.


Because less chance for January to troll us?

Precisely!
=)
[TLMS] REBOOT
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 27 2011 07:16 GMT
#1764
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 27 2011 07:21 GMT
#1765
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


Perhaps, but he is pretty much a rookie and under severe pressure as it is the make or break match for the day, so he should be fairly nervous, will maybe go away with experience.
WriterXiao8~~
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 07:30:43
November 27 2011 07:29 GMT
#1766
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.
Meh
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 27 2011 08:13 GMT
#1767
On November 27 2011 16:29 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.

Shy got to 200 at a normal pace, he just couldn't get any expo up because reality denied his 4th over and over. Reality was behind in the timing in hitting 200. If it was flash, he would of gotten that 200 mark much faster than reality and would of moved out before shy's economy stabilized a bit.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 27 2011 08:19 GMT
#1768
Fuck I overslept it-_-.
Knew Khan was going to win tho,gz to them.
Cackle™
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 27 2011 08:33 GMT
#1769
where are the vods gonna be?!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 27 2011 09:21 GMT
#1770
On November 23 2011 18:48 Ryo wrote:
Khan 3-2.

Yup.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 27 2011 10:16 GMT
#1771
YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH STORKKKKKK!!! God I was so nervous before that game, but then he went and owned and made me so proud ♥ And Jangbi too, what a goddamn beast. Khan ftw!

Mad that the two guys behind me put up their signs at the same time as me, so my sign didn't get a close up T__T

Writer:o
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 27 2011 10:23 GMT
#1772
On November 27 2011 19:16 Kiett wrote:
YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH STORKKKKKK!!! God I was so nervous before that game, but then he went and owned and made me so proud ♥ And Jangbi too, what a goddamn beast. Khan ftw!

Mad that the two guys behind me put up their signs at the same time as me, so my sign didn't get a close up T__T



Poor kiett
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 12:41:29
November 27 2011 12:39 GMT
#1773
On November 27 2011 17:13 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 16:29 baubo wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:16 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 27 2011 16:06 baubo wrote:
Woohoo! Khan wins.

Mixed feelings about Reality. His early game is amazing. Seemingly flawless decision-making. control, macro. His early push at Shy's 3rd was brilliant. But his 200/200 pushes tend to look like all Samsung Terran pushes. Which is to say it's quite bad. If that had been a more experienced toss, I think he would've lost despite having a huge lead for the entire early game. He really didn't have to wait for the 2/1 upgrades and pushed before Shy had his gateway count up.

IMO, his macro was terrible. It took him a while to get to 200/200 after Shy got to 200/200 even though they had very simlar economy.


I disagree. If you make vultures, it just take longer for you to max than if you turtle with tanks/goliaths. And Shy getting to 200 is because protoss would rather spend money on expos and gateways rather than units at that time. So it's actually BAD that Shy got to 200 quickly.

Shy got to 200 at a normal pace, he just couldn't get any expo up because reality denied his 4th over and over. Reality was behind in the timing in hitting 200. If it was flash, he would of gotten that 200 mark much faster than reality and would of moved out before shy's economy stabilized a bit.


Watch this game and watch Flash vs Jangbi. Watch their harass and push potential mid-game. Reality couldn't maco like Flash because he made and lost a dozen vultures to limit the 4th. He also had tons of vultures to lay mines in order for his tanks to kill Shy's third. Neither of which would've been possible with Flash's build. On the flip side. Look at how slowly Jangbi maxed out. That's because he was busy making gazillion Nexuses and gateways at the other main rather than macroing up an army.

Of course it doesn't matter with Flash because his push itself is so terrifying that he doesn't care to do all that crap beforehand. But as I pointed out, Reality's push was quite mediocre. And he won mostly because his advantage was so big and Shy isn't at Bisu/Best/Stork/Jangbi's level of PvT.
Meh
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
November 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#1774
Impressive game from Jangbi
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#1775
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!


3-2. Good picks by Jannie. :D

Can't wait to watch these games.
kiss kiss fall in love
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
November 27 2011 14:57 GMT
#1776
2bad i couldnt stay up to watch the games, glad we won, plus stork beating zero for a change!
go khan!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2007 Posts
November 27 2011 15:26 GMT
#1777
On November 27 2011 17:33 johnnywup wrote:
where are the vods gonna be?!

In the same place they always are: Small Vod Thread
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
November 27 2011 15:53 GMT
#1778
im glad i went to bed before the last game ended

congrats to reality and samsung khan
ace hwaiting!!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
November 27 2011 15:57 GMT
#1779
I woke up like 20 min later thinking i would be just in time for the first game with the commercials but 2 games were already finished..

At least Stork beat his zerg nemesis Zero and Reality game wasnt half bad too. Gonna watch the vods for the first 2 now.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
November 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#1780
Yay! Khan! Too bad I was unable to watch...
Prev 1 87 88 89 90 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 252
NeuroSwarm 100
Livibee 76
CosmosSc2 58
Vindicta 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 681
ggaemo 252
MaD[AoV]64
NaDa 61
Dota 2
capcasts468
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe138
Liquid`Ken15
Other Games
summit1g15592
shahzam1300
C9.Mang0228
ViBE162
Sick59
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta61
• Hupsaiya 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21837
League of Legends
• Doublelift7563
Other Games
• Scarra1500
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
15h 15m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
1d 2h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 11h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 15h
Online Event
1d 17h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.