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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 26 2011 15:33 GMT
#4361
On November 27 2011 00:28 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 00:24 Kiett wrote:
On November 26 2011 23:53 Ryo wrote:
Hiya went to Yongsan today to support Team 8:


[image loading]


haha, we were waiting outside for ACE to come out after their match, and Hiya walked by us. I was like, "....is that Hiya? No way. OMG it is. HI HIYA!!!!"

But then he just walked away T-T

Got to call him by his Korean name, or maybe use "constantly".
Btw, did you go to the Team 8 fan meeting after the match?


I should have went, "HI HOLLYWOOD FISHIKING!" hehe

And no. After the SKT vs. T8 game, I wanted to go outside to see if there were any fanmeets, but there were SO many people at the stadium, I was scared that if I left, someone would take my seat and I wouldn't be able to get back in T__T
Writer:o
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 26 2011 15:37 GMT
#4362
On November 27 2011 00:33 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 00:28 Ryo wrote:
On November 27 2011 00:24 Kiett wrote:
On November 26 2011 23:53 Ryo wrote:
Hiya went to Yongsan today to support Team 8:


[image loading]


haha, we were waiting outside for ACE to come out after their match, and Hiya walked by us. I was like, "....is that Hiya? No way. OMG it is. HI HIYA!!!!"

But then he just walked away T-T

Got to call him by his Korean name, or maybe use "constantly".
Btw, did you go to the Team 8 fan meeting after the match?


I should have went, "HI HOLLYWOOD FISHIKING!" hehe

And no. After the SKT vs. T8 game, I wanted to go outside to see if there were any fanmeets, but there were SO many people at the stadium, I was scared that if I left, someone would take my seat and I wouldn't be able to get back in T__T

Yeah, massive crowd today. o.o
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
November 26 2011 15:58 GMT
#4363
On November 27 2011 00:21 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 00:16 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:10 rplant wrote:
How much less time did Team 8 have with the new maps than the other teams?


The players had the same amount of time. They just didn't know who their teammates where. But they could still practice with their old teammates

That's not quite true. Without any practice houses or coaches, it was hard to organize any real practice as a team. The players from the 3 disbanded teams weren't even given the new maps by KeSPA, they had to get them from their friends in other teams.

Wow, that is .............
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 26 2011 16:27 GMT
#4364
VODS are UP!!!! NEVAKE I LOVE YOU!!!!
FGonna try to exit this tab without seeing any spoilers!!! :D
Honsestly though, i had forgotten about nevake and was looking for other VOD's... Oh how I love BW!!!
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Agent Smith
Profile Joined August 2011
71 Posts
November 26 2011 17:18 GMT
#4365
I missed this. How was the games? Team 8 must be really rusty from all the time away. Thank god we have BW back!
Dansickle
Profile Joined November 2009
177 Posts
November 26 2011 17:26 GMT
#4366
On November 26 2011 17:56 Ideas wrote:
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On November 26 2011 17:17 Dansickle wrote:
I hope we can keep up this level of activity and excitement through the season. I really like the new format, actually. Shorter season will make each of the games more exciting and important, the no ace-match means that even with the bo5, we'll still get to see a variety of players and while I will miss winner's league and wish they had worked it in somehow, there's still STX Master's, right?


actually STX masters was always run on MBC, so i sorta doubt it will return next year :\


Ah, I knew it was on MBC, but I was hoping that since STX had continued sponsoring their team, they'd also continue sponsoring Master's.
IGotPlayguuu
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy660 Posts
November 26 2011 17:43 GMT
#4367
Fuck yeah skt!
BW |JaeDong|Bisu|FBH|BeSt| SC2 |MC|DRG|MMA|TLO|HuK|July|ClouD| ||| Boxer best player ever! ||| "HuK never use penix" ||| I <3 SeleCT ||| GO Space! ||| Nerf Roach! |||
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
November 26 2011 18:32 GMT
#4368
team 8 dream team = miami heat dream team

Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
November 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#4369
WHY DID ONLY THE "B"'s WIN TODAY???
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 07:52:08
November 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#4370
Protoss fighting and Best vs. Jaedong *-* Amazing ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 26 2011 20:17 GMT
#4371
Wow... Bittersweet victory... Sad that Jaedong lost... Happy that Bisu won... Happy that SKT won... Sad that T8 had to lose their first game... Meh~... I was like, "nooooo!!!!" the second I first saw that SKT and T8 was matched up for the first game... ;| Here's to a good season T8 and SKT1~
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
November 26 2011 20:29 GMT
#4372
what ??? team 8 lost ???
no way jaedong lost to best ?????
ffs oh well at least jaedong is no longer in a team that has a solid chance now
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
November 26 2011 20:42 GMT
#4373
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 26 2011 20:59 GMT
#4374
On November 27 2011 05:42 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfzTeZsYojk


Because Jaedong is a great and respectable player who win by outplaying his opponent using his own skills and not someone who abuses game design imbalance to win lamely.
Khassar de Templari
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
November 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#4375
On November 27 2011 05:59 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 05:42 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfzTeZsYojk


Because Jaedong is a great and respectable player who win by outplaying his opponent using his own skills and not someone who abuses game design imbalance to win lamely.


http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#4376
On November 27 2011 05:42 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfzTeZsYojk

You don't really understand the match-up do you?
Writerptrk
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#4377
the map looked really fking large though, it'll be interesting to see how future pvz play on that map. if jaedong had better sim city or queued his hydras at his third quicker, the game would have been much closer.
Hey! Listen!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
November 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#4378
This series brought back so much Nostalgia for broodwar <3 Been ages from the last time I watched. (OSL)
LiquidDota Staff
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
November 26 2011 21:26 GMT
#4379
On November 27 2011 06:04 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 05:42 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfzTeZsYojk

You don't really understand the match-up do you?


Fine, I'll actually look at all the notable zvp games in the last 3 years and compare the win rates of hydra busts and economic builds like 12 hatch into no units and quick 3rds. I'll even disregard quick 4ths because that has like a 2/10 success rate and would drag the overall econ builds' win rate down.

Unless my memory is useless I still think hydra busts will come out ahead by a long shot. I will post the results in a new thread in a couple of days.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 26 2011 21:34 GMT
#4380
On November 27 2011 06:26 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 06:04 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 27 2011 05:42 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Jaedong's play has become a parody of itself. His entire build sounds like what you would say if you were trying to make fun of his former play style. 3RD BASE BEFORE ANY UNITS? WHY DOESN'T HE JUST TAKE A QUICK 4TH WHILE HE'S AT IT? But really, why on earth would you NOT attempt to hydra bust a FFE every single time? I bet if you have the patience to check all the games in the last couple of years where a true hydra bust (mass hydras and go for it before lair ) was attempted against an FFE it would have AT LEAST a 7/10 success rate, whereas "economic" builds seem to fail in an appalling fashion about 5/10 times against FFE.

This should be the standard response to FFE every time all day every day forever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfzTeZsYojk

You don't really understand the match-up do you?


Fine, I'll actually look at all the notable zvp games in the last 3 years and compare the win rates of hydra busts and economic builds like 12 hatch into no units and quick 3rds. I'll even disregard quick 4ths because that has like a 2/10 success rate and would drag the overall econ builds' win rate down.

Unless my memory is useless I still think hydra busts will come out ahead by a long shot. I will post the results in a new thread in a couple of days.


Unless my memory is useless I still think that in order to do a proper hydra bust u must take a quick 3rd (or as u say, 12 hatch into no units and quick 3rd) lol.
Khassar de Templari
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