EPT
The normal way is AvD vs BvsC vs AvD vs BvsC etc
Anyway -
Peter - Whats up with the GGL brackets?
GGL-PuertoRican - dunno, what's with them
Peter - well unless they are wrong
Peter - i will be playing rekrul again in 2nd round
Peter - then assem in third
Peter - instead of it being broken up ?
Peter - same with everyone else
Peter - we are playing vs the same group of people
GGL-PuertoRican - you wont play Dan twice, unless you guys meet up in the losers brackets towards the end
Peter - http://www.ggl.com/playoffs.php?CompetitionId=95
Peter - will it be winner of pj/schniblor vs the winner of dash/assem
Peter - for the top part
GGL-PuertoRican - yep
Peter - why on earth
Peter - no tournament in the world does it like that
GGL-PuertoRican - dont ask me, i didnt make the brackets
Peter - well you are in authority
GGL-PuertoRican - haha, thats true
GGL-PuertoRican - but i didnt make the brackets
Peter - you dont replace the ppl who have played in the groups instantly against each other
GGL-PuertoRican - if i made them, all groups would be mixed, instead of A/D vs. B/C
Peter - are you going to do something about it ?
GGL-PuertoRican - that's the way it's gonna be though, i already brought it up
GGL-PuertoRican - too late to change brackets
Peter - GGL is a joke
Peter - so trying to get an american through
GGL-PuertoRican - people already started playing
Peter - only first round though
Peter - the only problem occurs in the 2nd round
GGL-PuertoRican - yer dumb, and dont say it's a joke cuz the brackets arent the way you want them
Peter - no its a joke because we are playing the same people
GGL-PuertoRican - i can call your team a joke for not winning anything
GGL-PuertoRican - but i dont
GGL-PuertoRican - ;o
Peter - our team is a joke
Peter - i know it is
Peter - i dont really care i'd rape assem and rekrul
Peter - that matters nothing
Peter - what matters is a fair tournament
GGL-PuertoRican - it's the same way for the other games too
Peter - the brackets like this where ITS IMPOSSIBLE to play anyone from half of the brackets until the final is totally wrong
GGL-PuertoRican - not like we're trying to get USA ahead
GGL-PuertoRican - im the one who made the groups, i put everyone who was close in time with each other, not like i had a big plan to get usa ahead in the end
Peter - its NOT THE GROUPS that are the problem
GGL-PuertoRican - i know
Peter - its the bracket stage where its AvD all the way until the final
Peter - should be A1vD4 first round, then 2nd round is the winner vs the winner of B2vC3
Peter - that is how every tournament is run
GGL-PuertoRican - welp, that's the way they want it, same for wc3 groups, AoM groups, etc
Peter - mind if i cut and paste this into a discussion topic
GGL-PuertoRican - for what, nothin will change, or else i would have changed it
Peter - the only thing stupidity needs to win is for smart ppl to do nothing
GGL-PuertoRican - well, all yer gonna do is whine, it wont get changed.
GGL-PuertoRican - not like yer the first time mention the brackets.
Peter - well i asked you if you were going to do something, you said no
Peter - i can't beleive they would even consider something so fundamentally flawed like this though
GGL-PuertoRican - i already tryed
GGL-PuertoRican - if i tryed already, no bother to try again, when i know it CANT happen
GGL-PuertoRican - games have already started
Peter - you can always change something bad if it hasn't moved past the bad part
Peter - noone has played rnd 2 so that point is invalid
GGL-PuertoRican - welp Peter Neate, go complain, i already told you what the outcome will be.
Peter - got their email ?
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Email i just sent to GGL
Hi i dont know if it is with all brackets but there seems to be a problem with the starcraft bracket.
Instead of following standard tournament structure where the winner of A1vD4 will play vs the winner of B2vC3 it shows that the bracket is instead A1vD4 v A3vD2. Thus the same people who played in the group stages have to replay verse each other.
Then even worse the next round is also vs the same groupings from earlier. (A1vD4 v A3vD2 VS A2vD3 v A4vD1.)
With this style of bracket and the lack of spreading the players out, it is impossible to play vs half of the brackets/groups/players until the very final, instead of playing vs everyone from every group.
I have talked to the leader of the starcraft ladder Puertorican, but he said he had already brought it up and wont change it because some matches have already started. But there is no problem that arises until the 2nd week matches so i dont understand how it can't be changed before that. Especially considering the massive flaw in the current bracket structure.
(say if the top 4 players were split up into 2 of the groups, it would make it impossible for more then 2 of them to make it into the finals, 1 through winners and 1 through the losers) But in all of the other tournament bracket structures all of the top 4 would make it through to the top 4 spots with the way the brackets are normally spread.
I hope you seriously rectify this problem before it advances too far.
Regards Peter.
aka Legionnaire
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**** GGL RESPONSE ****
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Nothing is gonna change this season, sorry, we will probably change this for the next season tho.
EDIT
PPL who dont like the brackets:
Leg, Assem, Rekrul, Fisheye, Dashwriter
PPL who like the brackets:
Pride
Artosis said something about not having to play me or assem until very late so he likes it. Also said he thinks its because they wanted euro vs american finals in the lan thigns for other games which is an okay point, except sc has 2 euro teams.
Naz edit this with your opinion, i'll try and find out from others. Though seeing prides response i think i know how its going to be split.
