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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#61
On August 04 2011 08:56 GammaElite wrote:
Joekim the interviews are gonna be epic, you need some help stalking down players?

Yeah man, fuck the ISL, give the prize pool to the best interview!!
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
August 04 2011 02:23 GMT
#62
On August 04 2011 08:47 Eywa- wrote:
Guys... WTF. You're playing for like $1000, you saying you're not willing to practice a map that you wouldn't usually play? o.o

Othello is actually a good map, though I personally dislike it. As is Blue Storm(though I like this one).


nono, i'm happily playing this and agree with w/e maps the administration comes up with (its "their tourney" after all). Just saying there is a reason why old maps are not used anymore, and that it would probably be better to use current maps for further rounds.
GammaElite
Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
August 04 2011 06:06 GMT
#63
Would it be possible to have highly knowledgeable casters co-cast alongisde rD.Sayle like last time? Sayle is an epic caster and he would be complemented well by a gosu or two or three.
Cpt.InSaNo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States81 Posts
August 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#64
isl2_maximin will be withdrawing fyi
StOrk[gm] 4 LiFe
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 04 2011 15:30 GMT
#65
On August 04 2011 17:43 Cpt.InSaNo wrote:
isl2_maximin will be withdrawing fyi


Would've been cut for lack of replays but thanks for the heads up.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 04 2011 16:48 GMT
#66
On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:
Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641


Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage."

Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps."


That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss.

I very much doubt any of that applies at the level of play we're going to be seeing in this tournament.
brood war for life, brood war forever
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
August 04 2011 17:14 GMT
#67
On August 05 2011 01:48 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:
Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641


Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage."

Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps."


That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss.

I very much doubt any of that applies at the level of play we're going to be seeing in this tournament.


My brother said just the same thing this morning ^^
EleGant[AoV]
GammaElite
Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
August 04 2011 17:45 GMT
#68
This tournament already starts in two days.
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
August 04 2011 18:35 GMT
#69
What will be with guys, who did not sent you replays?
Will there be a list of disqualified players with reasons?
Will i get bann from TL for bming Scan in this thread?

Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 18:48:15
August 04 2011 18:47 GMT
#70
On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.

In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.

Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players.


^ Players Read
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 04 2011 18:49 GMT
#71
On August 05 2011 03:35 reps)Plumbum wrote:
What will be with guys, who did not sent you replays?
Will there be a list of disqualified players with reasons?
Will i get bann from TL for bming Scan in this thread?



Read the post below yours for #1 and #2.

#3: I think you might get warned the first time and get banned the second. In my experience though, if it's funny/witty the TL mods appreciate it just as much as anyone else.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
GammaElite
Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
August 04 2011 19:06 GMT
#72
Anyone recommend which Terrans I should watch to learn from?
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
August 04 2011 20:07 GMT
#73
On August 05 2011 04:06 GammaElite wrote:
Anyone recommend which Terrans I should watch to learn from?

Flash and Baby would be good Terrans to learn from.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 04 2011 23:20 GMT
#74
On August 05 2011 03:47 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.

In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.

Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players.


^ Players Read



Can you just re-randomize the new people who drop/enter into corresponding groups? I don't want to have to re-adjust my practice b.os already if my group switches to protoss and zerg.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 04 2011 23:25 GMT
#75
On August 05 2011 08:20 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 03:47 Game wrote:
On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.

In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.

Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players.


^ Players Read



Can you just re-randomize the new people who drop/enter into corresponding groups? I don't want to have to re-adjust my practice b.os already if my group switches to protoss and zerg.


No. I am not enterting new players except for when someone transfers their stats.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 05 2011 03:30 GMT
#76
Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
andreyyisbestandrey
Profile Joined September 2010
154 Posts
August 05 2011 03:38 GMT
#77
On August 05 2011 12:30 hacklebeast wrote:
Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.


Wouldn't that counter the agenda of phasing BW out in favor of Starc2?

User was warned for this post
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 05 2011 04:37 GMT
#78
On August 05 2011 12:30 hacklebeast wrote:
Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.


Please read post #2 and post #70. I will be re-randomizing the groups tomorrow and then submitting a proper calendered event.

@andrey... have you ever... ever... EVER said something positive in your life about anyone?
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#79
It wasn't a matter of wondering what the lineup was, I just wanted to see it on the calender.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 05 2011 05:21 GMT
#80
On August 05 2011 14:19 hacklebeast wrote:
It wasn't a matter of wondering what the lineup was, I just wanted to see it on the calender.


The lineups will be on the calendered event... Anyway, I submitted it less than an hour ago. Thanks for reminding me by the way
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
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