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At last! you enter the Round of 96! Here on these vast maps where even shadows fear the
light - here you must confront your opponents. If you have cheesed, beware of the gathering spirits, for they do fish for men. I pity the men of swords, For here blood runs cold...
July 31st saw the end of ISL2's Ladder Stage. 108 players qualified for the main tournament. The Top 12 of those are seeded directly into the later Round of 64. The remaining 96 players enter the Round of 96 to compete for an additional 48 spots. 4 Invites complete the Round of 64's player pool (4 + 12 + 48). Complicated? Don't worry, we'll talk you through it. First though, let's take a look at the results from the ladder stage
As announced, the Top 12 players of the ladder stage win a seed directly into the Round of 64. They are:
The remaining #13 - #108 qualify for the Round of 96. From Liquipedia:
The 96 players are divided into groups of 4, playing an MSL Survivor style to determine 2 players who advance. The maps are as follows:
- Groups 1 - 6 - August 6 - 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
- Groups 7 - 12 - August 13 - 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
- Groups 13 - 18 - August 20 - 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
- Groups 19 - 24 - August 27 - 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
- Round of 64 starts September 3rd
All the games from the Round of 96 will be played on the Fish server. There is an extensive guide here, but with a huge shout-out to Xsebt, our friendly neighbourhood Dane made a Fish-specific guide just for us in the spoiler below:
+ Show Spoiler [How to play on Fish] +How to get Mini Launcher and play on the Fish server1) Downloading the installerhttp://mini.brainclan.com/update/Mini-install.exe2) Installing MiniLauncher![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vZxZG.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CndV2.png) This step it's cruicial for you to not get any spyware! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yMAV6.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l0jgh.png) Wait for the program to be installed. 3) The launcherWhen you first open Minilauncher you have to update it. It will automatically request this, so you just just have to click yes (Y) and it will start updating. Next thing you wanna do is get the servers: Go to the "Tool"-tab. Here you'll see three buttons at the bottom. These are the three major Korean servers: Brainclan, Fish and Mapzine. In ISL2 you're gonna be playing on the Fish server - so click that button! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4lVCM.png) Now go the the "Launcher"-tab. This should look fairly familiar to you. You can select the plugins you want. The ones you MUST have checked are: [MINI] for 1.16.1 (Anti hack) Chaosplugin for 1.16.1 (Auto replay etc.) LatencyChanger for 1.16.1 (Allows you to play in low latency games) LatencyChanger extra: to enable low latency when hosting a game you have to end game with either "#LL", "#L1", "#L2" etc. + Show Spoiler [The difference between these] +
Changes the latency on BNet-games which end on #LL or #L1 ... #L5
#LL sets latency to 2 (like on Lan)
#L1 ... #L5 sets latency to the supplied number
For LAN-games use the settings. On LAN the settings have to be the same or all players
Only works if ALL players in the game have LatencyChanger, else you will get disconnects
Before you can start starcraft through the launcher, it must know where starcraft is installed. If you choose to find it manually (faster if you know where it is), you need to find the file "StarCraft" inside your StarCraft folder. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TmyQB.png) Finally, to start starcraft through the launcher, click here: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8MxNz.png) Go on the fish server and make an account through the game (same method as regular battle.net). /guide
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/HawaiianPig/ISL2/intertitle/rules.png)
- If highly suspected of listening to the stream of your game, you will be disqualified.
- All games must be played on your ISL2 names.
- All replays must be sent to the referee or your games will be reversed. Only the winner must send the replays in.
- Once the countdown ends and the game begins, you must be /dnd.
- All games must be played on Fish server on LAN latency.
- No Korean IP addresses.
Day 1 Results:
Day 3 Results:
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/HawaiianPig/ISL2/intertitle/personnel.png) The streams, as always will be run by the lovely Sayle and EleGant
Sponsors: KaalVeiten, TwitchTV.com, KoS-Templar, EleGant[AoV], rUSKIG, Trap, Megashira[AoV], a1k1a4k1, NoisE[AoV]
Organizer: LRM)Game
CAT Team: Hakurei[AoV], LRM)nOoNe, Sayle, LRM)Glory, JoeKim, KaalVeiten
Referees: LRM)Game, LRM)Glory, JoeKim
Graphics: HawaiianPig
Videos: Supernovamaniac, Dan1870220133262
Servers: Fish with ChaosLauncher or Minilauncherfor the Group Stages and tournament. Channel: op ISL2
YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/KaalISL
Text by Pholon
Graphics by HawaiianPig
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First response for any necessary updates.
First point: If your name is in this thread, but not here List of Replay Packs Received you will not be playing in the Kaal International StarLeague.
List of People Who Have Not Sent in Their Replay Packs
Second Edit:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.
In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.
Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players.
Third Edit: The altered Day 1 Groups:
http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2011/08/07
Players Please Read This
Day 2 was not altered
Day 3 Groups:
All Day 3 Players Read This ^
Fourth Edit: The channel on Fish for the Group Stages is "op ISL2".
Fifth Edit: The Round of 64 Maps
Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0
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Sweet!  Looking forward to this.
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Lol randomized group 8: DK / Favorite / Ramms / God, 3 A- and a B- no clue who will even get out of that
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Canada1950 Posts
I have a final exam on August 6th, 12:30-3pm EST
I'll only be able to play after that, what can I do?
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On August 03 2011 09:59 dRaW wrote:
Lol randomized group 8: DK / Favorite / Ramms / God, 3 A- and a B- no clue who will even get out of that
Ramms and Favorite
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On August 03 2011 10:07 Assault_1 wrote:
I have a final exam on August 6th, 12:30-3pm EST
I'll only be able to play after that, what can I do?
Talk with your entire group. Your best bet is this:
Get your first opponent (it's in order there) to play the match with you a day ahead of time in which an ISL2 referee will be present.
Upon doing this, you need to send me the proof of it (with scheduled time/date) so that one of the referees can show up for your match.
After that Talk with the other 2 players in your group. You will forfeit the winner vs winner or loser vs loser match automatically, as those cannot wait. However, the final match on HBR can wait (until Sunday @ 2359CET). Assuming you win your first match AND you can get both of the other people from your group to agree to PP that match with you, you need to also provide proof and scheduled time/date that they agreed to play you and abide by it.
Notice to all players:
In situations like this, you need to inform me way ahead of time, if it's less than 36 hours ahead of time - just expect to receive a WalkOver.
Also note that if you agree to a social contract like this, that you will indeed receive a WalkOver for not showing up to the match that was scheduled given your manner and kindness initially.
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Did I just see SEVEN consecutively ranked zerg players?
omg...
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Canada1950 Posts
On August 03 2011 10:14 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 10:07 Assault_1 wrote:
I have a final exam on August 6th, 12:30-3pm EST
I'll only be able to play after that, what can I do? Talk with your entire group. Your best bet is this: Get your first opponent (it's in order there) to play the match with you a day ahead of time in which an ISL2 referee will be present.Upon doing this, you need to send me the proof of it (with scheduled time/date) so that one of the referees can show up for your match. After that Talk with the other 2 players in your group. You will forfeit the winner vs winner or loser vs loser match automatically, as those cannot wait. However, the final match on HBR can wait (until Sunday @ 2359CET). Assuming you win your first match AND you can get both of the other people from your group to agree to PP that match with you, you need to also provide proof and scheduled time/date that they agreed to play you and abide by it. Notice to all players: In situations like this, you need to inform me way ahead of time, if it's less than 36 hours ahead of time - just expect to receive a WalkOver. Also note that if you agree to a social contract like this, that you will indeed receive a WalkOver for not showing up to the match that was scheduled given your manner and kindness initially.
okay, I have three questions:
1) what incentive would my group members have to reschedule my match when they can just receive a free walkover?
2) how can I contact my group members? most people don't check their isl2 email on iccup.com
3) I would only need it postponed by three hours, is this not possible?
thanks
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On August 03 2011 10:37 Assault_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 10:14 Game wrote:On August 03 2011 10:07 Assault_1 wrote:
I have a final exam on August 6th, 12:30-3pm EST
I'll only be able to play after that, what can I do? Talk with your entire group. Your best bet is this: Get your first opponent (it's in order there) to play the match with you a day ahead of time in which an ISL2 referee will be present.Upon doing this, you need to send me the proof of it (with scheduled time/date) so that one of the referees can show up for your match. After that Talk with the other 2 players in your group. You will forfeit the winner vs winner or loser vs loser match automatically, as those cannot wait. However, the final match on HBR can wait (until Sunday @ 2359CET). Assuming you win your first match AND you can get both of the other people from your group to agree to PP that match with you, you need to also provide proof and scheduled time/date that they agreed to play you and abide by it. Notice to all players: In situations like this, you need to inform me way ahead of time, if it's less than 36 hours ahead of time - just expect to receive a WalkOver. Also note that if you agree to a social contract like this, that you will indeed receive a WalkOver for not showing up to the match that was scheduled given your manner and kindness initially. okay, I have three questions: 1) what incentive would my group members have to reschedule my match when they can just receive a free walkover? 2) how can I contact my group members? most people don't check their isl2 email on iccup.com 3) I would only need it postponed by three hours, is this not possible? thanks
They actually have no incentive to except good will I guess? 
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On August 03 2011 10:37 Assault_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 10:14 Game wrote:On August 03 2011 10:07 Assault_1 wrote:
I have a final exam on August 6th, 12:30-3pm EST
I'll only be able to play after that, what can I do? Talk with your entire group. Your best bet is this: Get your first opponent (it's in order there) to play the match with you a day ahead of time in which an ISL2 referee will be present.Upon doing this, you need to send me the proof of it (with scheduled time/date) so that one of the referees can show up for your match. After that Talk with the other 2 players in your group. You will forfeit the winner vs winner or loser vs loser match automatically, as those cannot wait. However, the final match on HBR can wait (until Sunday @ 2359CET). Assuming you win your first match AND you can get both of the other people from your group to agree to PP that match with you, you need to also provide proof and scheduled time/date that they agreed to play you and abide by it. Notice to all players: In situations like this, you need to inform me way ahead of time, if it's less than 36 hours ahead of time - just expect to receive a WalkOver. Also note that if you agree to a social contract like this, that you will indeed receive a WalkOver for not showing up to the match that was scheduled given your manner and kindness initially. okay, I have three questions: 1) what incentive would my group members have to reschedule my match when they can just receive a free walkover? 2) how can I contact my group members? most people don't check their isl2 email on iccup.com 3) I would only need it postponed by three hours, is this not possible? thanks
1) They don't, only public image. Most people try to give the appearance of being manner when they know a lot of people will see it. This happened 5x last ISL (1/2 the players of ISL2)
2) Get creative. I do not give out anyone's info. If this starleague is important to you, you will go to all extents to get their contact info or hunt them down on servers.
3) No, postponing an entire group for one player... ugh no explanation necessary, just no.
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This is amazing!
Looking forward to this.
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Group 2 will be edited. WendiGo] you will qualify and be placed in Group 2 on Playday 1 due to ISL2.amoral's stat transfer. Another one bites the dust.
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for whoever else was curious:
45 zergs
35 protoss
26 terran
2 random
Good luck everyone!
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My Predictions:
![[image loading]](http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9994/predicitions.png)
And also:
+ Show Spoiler +PM me if you're interested in betting on matches.
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ahaha i was waiting for joekim to post predictions
edit: perhaps i will bet some ^_^ ill have to think about it
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How about switch the groups 1 and 10, i mean i have the same sitution like Assault, and i can't play at 13 August. I know the groups are randomized, but it possible to let me play at group 1, and switch Assault to group 10? if he agree of course.
So.. Assault how about that?;>
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On August 03 2011 13:54 Fosken_pl wrote:
How about switch the groups 1 and 10, i mean i have the same sitution like Assault, and i can't play at 13 August. I know the groups are randomized, but it possible to let me play at group 1, and switch Assault to group 10? if he agree of course.
So.. Assault how about that?;>
Unfortunately you cannot negotiate the group stage terms. However, given the lack of replay pack submitting, there is a chance in the near future that the groups might be re-randomized to cope for player laziness/idiocy/inactivity.
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ok i understand, so now i will try to contact someone from my groups to play in another day.
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On August 03 2011 14:08 Fosken_pl wrote:
ok i understand, so now i will try to contact someone from my groups to play in another day.
Alright let me know how that goes please. Also, you need to contact the person you are up against first. The groups are in order so whoever is to the right of your name (forgot it as I started typing this and don't want an ugly edit).
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On August 03 2011 14:02 Game wrote:
Unfortunately you cannot negotiate the group stage terms. However, given the lack of replay pack submitting, there is a chance in the near future that the groups might be re-randomized to cope for player laziness/idiocy/inactivity.
pfft, fagbait -.-
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I would like to thank you Joekim for giving me the pleasure of being the underdog. As if I didn't have enough motivation ;P
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This wasn't an error, it was just the best idea to leave them out of the group stage thread until we can announce our 4th invite. Thanks for the heads up though
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This wasn't an error, it was just the best idea to leave them out of the group stage thread until we can announce our 4th invite. Thanks for the heads up though.
Those invites are awesome! I hope the fourth is somebody old school like Castro ^^.
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One of the invites = ace = the sc2 progammer? I'm assuming that's just a duplicate name of a foreigner ace?
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But who are?
LRM)Kolll, sas.Ace, FR.Heme, and TBA
One of the invites = ace = the sc2 progammer? I'm assuming that's just a duplicate name of a foreigner ace?
Not SC2 player, but SC1 player sas.Ace who got second place in ISL#1.
There are about 20 people I'm rooting for!
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
It might be useful to add the SC server registry file to the Fish guide. Oftentimes, switching between servers will screw up your registry and delete some servers from the list. Running this file will put them back. I've uploaded it here: http://www.2shared.com/file/5WnqwkFL/allscservers.html
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Russian Federation484 Posts
nice groups, and awfull maps.
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Where do i install this mini-laucher? when i download this in desktop it doesent show there :O thnx
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why such horrible maps?
We are living in 2011, not 2008 ..
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yea... maps are horrible, mayeb go python or gorky island? xD
Just switch maps to FS medusa desti EotS longinus alternative and new PL maps
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im not drunk, but i want to say this.
i love ISL, i love BW, i love the surviving BW community.
if there was a BW Anonymous syndicated group, i would join to say: "Hello everyone, my name is Joe Kim and I am a BroodWarlordaholic and that won't flop 'til the BW casket drops."
i appreciate all of these money tours that keep the wheels rollin' and...
2010-2011 Awards:
Best Orga: Om Nom Nom Monstrosity LRM)Game
Best Caster/Stream: Yellow Dildo rD.Sayle
Best Sponsor: Ben Shull
Best "ICCUP" Admin: Guty
Best Zerg: The Sniper Ace
Best Protoss: Snow White's Favorite Dwarf, Sneezy
Best Terran: Metalhead Rammstein
Best Random: An Overdosed TAD[Michael]
Best Newbie: Shotcoder aka Noise[AoV] aka *da-dada-da* Underdog
Best ISL Performance: My local homeboy that's coo with JustyRusty, fLiPeEzY
Best Surprise: True Touch My Body
Best Mustache: Mystic Fighter
Best/Latest Enemy I slain: Cute[PaiN] (sup?)
Best Banned Player: The thing that comsats do...
Best Hybrid: A Mad Avatar of Victory / A retardedly named (OD) member
Best TROLOLOLOL: ICCUP.Asstet banning me for laughing on a stream
Best kid that quit BW because of me: NrG.GoD
Best ISL1 Interview: The guy that won me money against the guy that he was playing
Best JoeKim Fan: OneTrickPony <3
okay, i lied. now i'm sober, i swear.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Game, is there any chance the maps can be changed?
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On August 03 2011 22:19 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Game, is there any chance the maps can be changed?
i don't want to impose, but that's highly unlikely from a professional stand-point. organizers rarely propose one thing then revoke it because they "changed their mind."
the majority of the gamers will probably vote off the chosen maps, but this event not a democracy by any means, Plumbum x(
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Grats to the top 12 who are already in ro64, and good luck everybody in the group stage!
Let the best player win.
On August 03 2011 21:13 500kgg wrote:
Where do i install this mini-laucher? when i download this in desktop it doesent show there :O thnx
You mean you don't know where the installer goes after you downloaded it?
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
On August 03 2011 22:19 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Game, is there any chance the maps can be changed?
Careful what you wish for, he might put Hitchhiker in again XD
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gotta say, Hitchhiker is by far better than maps like othello or bluestorm>_>'
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On August 03 2011 22:19 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Game, is there any chance the maps can be changed?
No.
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8 out of the top 12 are Zerg? Wow. o.o
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No BEAMFACE!? That makes me sad.. :////
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Too few Terrans. 
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On August 03 2011 21:21 LML wrote:
why such horrible maps?
We are living in 2011, not 2008 ..
Circuit Breaker / La Mancha / Aztec / Neo Bloody Ridge ... Yeah ISL is cool and all but these maps are really old and I barely play othello or blue storm, time to cheese like i work @ a dairy ranch.
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Yeah maps are kinda old. I would love newer maps for the later stages. :D
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On August 04 2011 04:02 Terrorterran wrote:
Yeah maps are kinda old. I would love newer maps for the later stages. :D
All of the maps are already in order, just not released. There is a large mix of new/old, with the majority being new.
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if I send in my replays, can I play instead of one of those who did not send theirs?
I was ranked 120 ish at the end
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In hope that Cryoc, Para and Lion reads this; On Saturday the 20th of August, I will be working to 21:00 Local time, so I will be 2 hours late and would like to PP my matches if this is OK.
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I really enjoy these maps actually!
Blue Storm FTW
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Russian Federation484 Posts
On August 04 2011 06:03 vTv.Marine wrote:I really enjoy these maps actually! Blue Storm FTW
bet you are not zerg -.-
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I dont think zvp on that map is THAT bad tbh
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Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641
Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage."
Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps."
That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss.
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Wanted to add to the above, just keep the maps for the same round but use current proleague/osl/msl maps for the following rounds. Not just for balance (protoss vs anything on python is imba) but because old maps are mostly figured out and games turn into either bad games or cheeses.
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I don't disagree with protoss having an inherent advantage when it comes to playing maps when both players have relatively little experience on the map. But I disagree with it being unfair for protoss when terran catches up because they had adequate time required to play passably. To me, that is bias showing and simply not being thrilled over their advantage shrinking; if you interviewed top terran players, I'm sure they would have a different perspective. "Meta game..." who cares. When most maps are similar, there can be a general consensus on "how you should play," but when the optimal way to play a map doesn't fit the meta game, it doesn't necessarily equate to imbalance.
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On August 04 2011 06:46 playa wrote:
I don't disagree with protoss having an inherent advantage when it comes to playing maps when both players have relatively little experience on the map. But I disagree with it being unfair for protoss when terran catches up because they had adequate time required to play passably. To me, that is bias showing and simply not being thrilled over their advantage shrinking; if you interviewed top terran players, I'm sure they would have a different perspective. "Meta game..." who cares. When most maps are similar, there can be a general consensus on "how you should play," but when the optimal way to play a map doesn't fit the meta game, it doesn't necessarily equate to imbalance.
I think on Destination Flash would have a 90% winrate against other progamers. Prolly same on T v P at Match Point. It's just guessing prolly, but current meta game on old maps its just imba sometimes.
Imagine flash doing FE and taking a fast 3rd on Destination. Then he could just turtle and run over the map and protoss would have nothing to do but try to cheese, which would most likely fail given proper scout patterns on a map you are familiar with.
Imagine t v z, starting with m&m and transitioning into mech would enable terran to secure half the map basically. Sure zerg can cheese, but again, if you can almost only win on a map by cheesing it is quite unbalanced.
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Imagine the best player doing anything. He might win an overwhelming majority of the time. That's not a revelation; that's common sense. I suspect this might be why he is so good at tvt, though... Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Destination strikes me as one of the worst maps for FE (rax cc). I realize the bridge helps you out once you have a sieged tank, but there are far more negatives to me than positives. I saw BIsu, at least 2 times, make flash look horrible on destination, and his play wasn't too far off from what you're suggesting would be overpowered. If you're talking about a normal fast expo with a fast third, then I can imagine it well because I remember seeing it fail.
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Guys... WTF. You're playing for like $1000, you saying you're not willing to practice a map that you wouldn't usually play? o.o
Othello is actually a good map, though I personally dislike it. As is Blue Storm(though I like this one).
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Joekim the interviews are gonna be epic, you need some help stalking down players?
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No sunglasses allowed in interviews.
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On August 04 2011 08:56 GammaElite wrote:
Joekim the interviews are gonna be epic, you need some help stalking down players?
Yeah man, fuck the ISL, give the prize pool to the best interview!!
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On August 04 2011 08:47 Eywa- wrote:
Guys... WTF. You're playing for like $1000, you saying you're not willing to practice a map that you wouldn't usually play? o.o
Othello is actually a good map, though I personally dislike it. As is Blue Storm(though I like this one).
nono, i'm happily playing this and agree with w/e maps the administration comes up with (its "their tourney" after all). Just saying there is a reason why old maps are not used anymore, and that it would probably be better to use current maps for further rounds.
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Would it be possible to have highly knowledgeable casters co-cast alongisde rD.Sayle like last time? Sayle is an epic caster and he would be complemented well by a gosu or two or three.
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isl2_maximin will be withdrawing fyi
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On August 04 2011 17:43 Cpt.InSaNo wrote:
isl2_maximin will be withdrawing fyi
Would've been cut for lack of replays but thanks for the heads up.
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On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage." Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps." That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss.
I very much doubt any of that applies at the level of play we're going to be seeing in this tournament.
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United Kingdom1685 Posts
On August 05 2011 01:48 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage." Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps." That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss. I very much doubt any of that applies at the level of play we're going to be seeing in this tournament.
My brother said just the same thing this morning ^^
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This tournament already starts in two days.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
What will be with guys, who did not sent you replays?
Will there be a list of disqualified players with reasons?
Will i get bann from TL for bming Scan in this thread?
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On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.
In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.
Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players.
^ Players Read
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On August 05 2011 03:35 reps)Plumbum wrote:
What will be with guys, who did not sent you replays?
Will there be a list of disqualified players with reasons?
Will i get bann from TL for bming Scan in this thread?
Read the post below yours for #1 and #2.
#3: I think you might get warned the first time and get banned the second. In my experience though, if it's funny/witty the TL mods appreciate it just as much as anyone else.
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Anyone recommend which Terrans I should watch to learn from?
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On August 05 2011 04:06 GammaElite wrote:
Anyone recommend which Terrans I should watch to learn from?
Flash and Baby would be good Terrans to learn from.
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On August 05 2011 03:47 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.
In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.
Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players. ^ Players Read
Can you just re-randomize the new people who drop/enter into corresponding groups? I don't want to have to re-adjust my practice b.os already if my group switches to protoss and zerg.
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On August 05 2011 08:20 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 03:47 Game wrote:On August 03 2011 09:36 Game wrote:
Here is how the Group Stages will work due to player insubordination. Currently 18 people have sent in their replay packs for Day 1. In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT. This is unfortunate for the Day 1 players, as they have roughly 9 hours and 20 minutes to send in their replay packs. Other than that, per week players will have until the deadline. For those who don't understand, it's so we can check your replays thoroughly for any kind of abuse.
In case of missing replay packs by the deadline, the groups will be re-randomized. For day 1 so far Group 1 has started and have all of their replay packs turned in, as well as Group 3 having all of their replay packs submitted. Therefore, they will stay the same. The remaining players will then be re-randomized and those groups will be released mid-Friday, giving you around 24 hours to practice any new match-up and study your opponent.
Players: Please take note of this post so come your day to play you don't cause unnecessary commotion amongst other players. ^ Players Read Can you just re-randomize the new people who drop/enter into corresponding groups? I don't want to have to re-adjust my practice b.os already if my group switches to protoss and zerg.
No. I am not enterting new players except for when someone transfers their stats.
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Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.
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On August 05 2011 12:30 hacklebeast wrote:
Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.
Wouldn't that counter the agenda of phasing BW out in favor of Starc2?
User was warned for this post
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On August 05 2011 12:30 hacklebeast wrote:
Has someone talked to pholon (or any of the mods) about getting this on the calender yet? It really should be.
Please read post #2 and post #70. I will be re-randomizing the groups tomorrow and then submitting a proper calendered event.
@andrey... have you ever... ever... EVER said something positive in your life about anyone?
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It wasn't a matter of wondering what the lineup was, I just wanted to see it on the calender.
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On August 05 2011 14:19 hacklebeast wrote:
It wasn't a matter of wondering what the lineup was, I just wanted to see it on the calender.
The lineups will be on the calendered event... Anyway, I submitted it less than an hour ago. Thanks for reminding me by the way
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i Hope we can check the new lineups soon as it possible. Becouse my opponent witch i should play first - TerranBoy accepted to play us match in another day.
Right now we will negiotiate the date and time, and after that i will inform you Game.
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On August 05 2011 21:36 Fosken_pl wrote:
i Hope we can check the new lineups soon as it possible. Becouse my opponent witch i should play first - TerranBoy accepted to play us match in another day.
Right now we will negiotiate the date and time, and after that i will inform you Game.
Alright, just let me know so there can be a referee there.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Do i understand right - player1 in my group is Terror and i am player 4?
The players counts from left to right? ;o
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On August 06 2011 02:37 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Do i understand right - player1 in my group is Terror and i am player 4?
The players counts from left to right? ;o
Yes.
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lol Talents group just got exponentially harder, and I thought maximin pulled out?
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FlaF and gag Groups are the same =)
easy wins for them =)
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Canada1950 Posts
Well, hopefully my group (N0kia[SCB, gag, and blazin) can wait 3 hours after the initially set time for me to be there. Otherwise, goodluck to the rest of the people.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
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 *do do do*
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On August 05 2011 00:30 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 17:43 Cpt.InSaNo wrote:
isl2_maximin will be withdrawing fyi Would've been cut for lack of replays but thanks for the heads up.
Just figured i give you a heads up so you guys could have somone replace him.
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Day1 Prediction:
Group 1 => Gag/Blazin (assault seeming to give w.os)
Group 2 => Technics/Playa (Thought maximin was cut, why is he still in group 2?)
Group 3 => HappyFlaf/Pidgin
Group 4 => Oya/Skzlime
Group 5 => Hannigan/Muff2n
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So they're playing today already? I hope skzlime can show some nice TvP. All of this ZvP in the foreign scene is getting old.
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On August 06 2011 16:28 ninini wrote:
So they're playing today already? I hope skzlime can show some nice TvP. All of this ZvP in the foreign scene is getting old.
Yes sir. It starts in 1 hour 34 minutes.
P.S: The channel on Fish is "op ISL2" in case somebody does not know.
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Hey Game, i will play my match vs TerranBoy today 19:30 cet op ISL2 Fish, hope its ok for you .
Anyway if i won the game, i have to play vs winner of the player1 vs player2? no idea, becouse i cant be at 13th of august
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On August 07 2011 01:36 Fosken_pl wrote:Hey Game, i will play my match vs TerranBoy today 19:30 cet op ISL2 Fish, hope its ok for you . Anyway if i won the game, i have to play vs winner of the player1 vs player2? no idea, becouse i cant be at 13th of august
We'll be there and a referee will be available.
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14 minutes to start
this will be awesome =)))
imo elegant shoul co cast with sayle
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Russian Federation28 Posts
Pff, can't install this launcher, couz some mistake. All in korean...
Any chanse to play at iCCup?
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nobody wants to place bets?
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ISL Group stages are starting now! Sayle casting the first match ISL2-gag (T) vs ISL2-blazin (Z) on Bluestorm.
gag spawning top right and blazin spawning bottom left.
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Pumped for this!!
Hope for good games!
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i would bet but i think my predictions are same as yours atm ;p
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for all groups or just today?
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Croatia9493 Posts
"i cant play with legs" - the best excuse ever!
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damn them legs, cut em off
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On August 07 2011 02:24 JoeKim wrote:
for all groups or just today?
just today, i havent looked at the other groups but theyll probably get changed anyway.
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the other groups should be staying the same, Day 1 just got gayed because of players not submitting replays
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Man, Sayle's co caster. Who is the guy? Dat accent!!!
EDIT: It's LRM)Game lol :D
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I doubt that Day 2's Groups will change next Saturday, so I will post my predictions for that once again:
Megashira/Pez
Favorite/Ramms
Teacher/Terror
Astro/Fosken
lastgosu/Bishop
Flip/Zergling
If you want to bet:
+ Show Spoiler +$1.00 minimum (paypal/webmoney). Individual games before they start. PM me here.
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Megashira/Pez
GoD/Ramms
Plumbum/Terror
Astro/Fosken
lastgosu/2011
Flip/Zergling
Day3
mtp/iamSoko
Pallmall/Rocky
Zaraki/non
ParA/MaD[AoV]
cDSuEdE/Napoleon
Zolotoi/Cute
Day4
TTF/Bylat
MVP/Vanatir
Pike/Bibiane
GoTuNk/Choosy
Julia/dsaqwe
Zepish/WhistleR.
not for money JoeKim ^^ just my individual bets, because i dont have paypal//smth else
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i can't believe Flaf, Skzlime, Talent, and Hannigan are not going to Round 64 -.-
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I can't find results
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On August 07 2011 05:05 Terrorterran wrote:I can't find results
Results:
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sorry i wrote in the wrong thread (in the other ISL2 thread) and i can't find delete button for that thread T.T so i write here again
i don't have a computer and i was not online for more than 3 weeks, didn't know i made it through ladder stage and i uploaded my replay pack to that address 2 minutes ago, am i too late??
it looks like my group is scheduled for next week, and the content of my replay pack remain Last
unchanged, would be nice if deadline could be extended!!! just curious if im too late >.<
"In order to give leniency to those who actually have legitimate reasons for not sending in their replay packs on time, I am re-drawing the deadline per week to Thursday 2359EDT"
this is the rule, does this mean my due date differs from those playing on different weeks? in other words, i have an extra week more than the week-1 players to submit?
and importantly i am safe?!
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On August 07 2011 06:01 NrG.GoD- wrote:
sorry i wrote in the wrong thread (in the other ISL2 thread) and i can't find delete button for that thread T.T so i write here again
i don't have a computer and i was not online for more than 3 weeks, didn't know i made it through ladder stage and i uploaded my replay pack to that address 2 minutes ago, am i too late??
it looks like my group is scheduled for next week, and the content of my replay pack remain Last edit: 2011-08-07 05:59:10
unchanged, would be nice if deadline could be extended!!! just curious if im too late >.<
Hey GoD, if you read the post under the OP it explains that you have until the Thursday of the week you play to submit. You'll be fine.
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On August 07 2011 06:05 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 06:01 NrG.GoD- wrote:
sorry i wrote in the wrong thread (in the other ISL2 thread) and i can't find delete button for that thread T.T so i write here again
i don't have a computer and i was not online for more than 3 weeks, didn't know i made it through ladder stage and i uploaded my replay pack to that address 2 minutes ago, am i too late??
it looks like my group is scheduled for next week, and the content of my replay pack remain Last edit: 2011-08-07 05:59:10
unchanged, would be nice if deadline could be extended!!! just curious if im too late >.< Hey GoD, if you read the post under the OP it explains that you have until the Thursday of the week you play to submit. You'll be fine.
oh thanks i just read it 20 seconds ago and was editting. sorry
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1 more question!! i read all the rules and i can't find this rule anywhere
it seems iccup season reset didn't happen and i still have my ISL2 stats.
I know that I can't transfer the stats, and currently my stats have 52 games totally, and I sent 52 replays to the address
Am I allowed to play additional games from now without having to send in extra replays, just for practice?? since i don't have another ladder account and don't want to start at D again >.<
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On August 07 2011 06:10 NrG.GoD- wrote:
1 more question!! i read all the rules and i can't find this rule anywhere
it seems iccup season reset didn't happen and i still have my ISL2 stats.
I know that I can't transfer the stats, and currently my stats have 52 games totally, and I sent 52 replays to the address
Am I allowed to play additional games from now without having to send in extra replays, just for practice?? since i don't have another ladder account and don't want to start at D again >.<
You can ladder with your ISL2 acc.
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so 3 terrans ???? this sucks man terran really are the rarest race in broodwar.
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On August 07 2011 11:24 Sawamura wrote:
so 3 terrans ???? this sucks man terran really are the rarest race in broodwar.
3 out of 10... How many did you want? It can't get much closer to a third.
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If you are unable to play on the date but play each of the opponents once, can you then choose to use those replays in your absence? I don't see much benefit but it could help with people in such circumstances who are not able to attend those dates.
i.e; you are player A, you beat player B; then you have played C and D on replay, if C or D is the winner you host that replay then the other replay will become void unless needed for the final game. (reverse works if you lose opening game)
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On August 07 2011 12:42 dRaW wrote:
If you are unable to play on the date but play each of the opponents once, can you then choose to use those replays in your absence? I don't see much benefit but it could help with people in such circumstances who are not able to attend those dates.
i.e; you are player A, you beat player B; then you have played C and D on replay, if C or D is the winner you host that replay then the other replay will become void unless needed for the final game. (reverse works if you lose opening game)
No.
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On August 07 2011 11:33 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 11:24 Sawamura wrote:
so 3 terrans ???? this sucks man terran really are the rarest race in broodwar. 3 out of 10... How many did you want? It can't get much closer to a third.
i wanted at least 5 out of 10 T_T
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
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I'll be uploading these into the OP within 4-5 hours (going out).
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+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play?
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Russian Federation18 Posts
when other gruop re-randomize?
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On August 08 2011 04:57 tryummm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play?
Yes, but last ISL was like that because the 57-62 players were really good players. Putting in 50% C- players is not exactly helpful. Quality =/= quantity.
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Canada1950 Posts
On August 08 2011 08:51 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 04:57 tryummm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play? Yes, but last ISL was like that because the 57-62 players were really good players. Putting in 50% C- players is not exactly helpful. Quality =/= quantity.
maybe I can take the place of one of the walkover'd people
if not can I transfer off isl2-assault now since im out?
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On August 08 2011 08:51 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 04:57 tryummm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play? Yes, but last ISL was like that because the 57-62 players were really good players. Putting in 50% C- players is not exactly helpful. Quality =/= quantity.
you lack the olympic spirit man.
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On August 08 2011 08:51 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 04:57 tryummm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play? Yes, but last ISL was like that because the 57-62 players were really good players. Putting in 50% C- players is not exactly helpful. Quality =/= quantity.
Well I'm sure there are some players who didn't qualify for whatever reason who could beat some of the player who did qualify. Your call though.
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United Kingdom1685 Posts
I'm uploading today- Had problems cos my stream was laggy it will be absolutely 100% fixed by next week.
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On August 08 2011 14:15 tryummm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 08:51 Game wrote:On August 08 2011 04:57 tryummm wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are there so many walk outs? Aren't there players who were close to qualification who could take over spots if qualified players choose not to play? Yes, but last ISL was like that because the 57-62 players were really good players. Putting in 50% C- players is not exactly helpful. Quality =/= quantity. Well I'm sure there are some players who didn't qualify for whatever reason who could beat some of the player who did qualify. Your call though.
may i know the names ? probably scan ? after all he was isl 1 winners so isn't he like supposed to be invited to the tourney since he was the previous champion after all like probably defending like all winners do their isl title .
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castro reached b but had to clear stats =(
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On August 09 2011 03:28 Evets-X17 wrote:By dedication to our beloved GAME and his ISL2, I have made a photo montage to suit the occasion. Enjoy! ![[image loading]](http://i56.tinypic.com/2nhp25t.jpeg)
lol
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On August 09 2011 03:28 Evets-X17 wrote:By dedication to our beloved GAME and his ISL2, I have made a photo montage to suit the occasion. Enjoy!
I rofl'd
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Lol Joekim.
Game, is there any possiblity of you releasing the map pool for the next rounds please?
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On August 09 2011 04:43 Muff2n wrote:
Lol Joekim.
Game, is there any possiblity of you releasing the map pool for the next rounds please?
They will be released roughly two weeks before the Round of 64.
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I think each weekend will only get better and better since the first weekend had a lot of walkovers and bad players. I am looking forward especially to watching Pez,Ramms, Terror, Teacher, Astro, Lastgosu, Flip and LML! Lastgosu especially looking forward to.
Also, I really liked 2 casters, x2 the insight.
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hi, my group plays this saturday. i was wondering what time we start playing (us paficic time). my group is last.. do all groups play at the same time or 1 group at a time. And also is it bo1 ?
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all groups play the same, starting at 19CET (probably 10am for u), and the matches are MSL style bo1
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anyone want to bet on ISL 2 matches?
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On August 09 2011 14:58 Boxer(OD) wrote:
I think each weekend will only get better and better since the first weekend had a lot of walkovers and bad players. I am looking forward especially to watching Pez,Ramms, Terror, Teacher, Astro, Lastgosu, Flip and LML! Lastgosu especially looking forward to.
Also, I really liked 2 casters, x2 the insight.
I got a fan, damn, now I am happy
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Russian Federation484 Posts
What with groups 7-12 will they be re-randomized? :o
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random german commentary??? please never again
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GOGOGOGO OCTZERG !!!!
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On August 10 2011 11:12 reps)Plumbum wrote:
What with groups 7-12 will they be re-randomized? :o
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/ISL2-TerranBoy.html
Terranboy no longer has stats, I guess he's removed? Also I am wondering when /who is in my group I might be late.
Looking forward to watching groups 8, 11 and 12.
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I've sent a message to everyone in my group asking if we can PP our matches 2 hours, because on the 20th, 7 CEST, I am at work, and will be home 9 CEST. I also wrote here earlier, but nobodt replied.
What happens if I can't get in touch with them?
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On August 11 2011 00:26 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I've sent a message to everyone in my group asking if we can PP our matches 2 hours, because on the 20th, 7 CEST, I am at work, and will be home 9 CEST. I also wrote here earlier, but nobodt replied.
What happens if I can't get in touch with them?
Same thing that happened to assaulty who had an exam O,o
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well rules doesn't say anything about clearstats as far as I know. Only transfer is not allowed
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On August 10 2011 08:07 Nb.fLip wrote:
hi, my group plays this saturday. i was wondering what time we start playing (us paficic time). my group is last.. do all groups play at the same time or 1 group at a time. And also is it bo1 ?
10AM PST. 19CET --> 1PM East Coast/10AM West Coast. As far as the groups go, they are played simultaneously, BUT, referees hold certain players/groups to be casted, so there might be a few minute delay in between games. And yes, all games are bo1. Most groups finished last week within a couple of hours.
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On August 10 2011 11:12 reps)Plumbum wrote:
What with groups 7-12 will they be re-randomized? :o
No. I am only missing 2 replays packs from all of those groups.
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On August 11 2011 00:26 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I've sent a message to everyone in my group asking if we can PP our matches 2 hours, because on the 20th, 7 CEST, I am at work, and will be home 9 CEST. I also wrote here earlier, but nobodt replied.
What happens if I can't get in touch with them?
All efforts to PP matches are independent. Read what I wrote to Assault. If no one will PP with you, you will get W.Oed.
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Regarding the "Eliminated ISL2 Players" /transfer Question:
Once you are no longer in any stage of ISL2, you may do whatever you want with your stats. However, for historical value, it would be recommended that you save your ISL2 stats on your ISL2 account. TSL allowed their players to transfer, so if anyone were to look up TSL-IefNaij or whomever, there would be no stats to show what they had. If you understand this concept, cool. If you don't understand this concept, do as you please.
+ Show Spoiler +Still looking for people to bet on ISL2 matches with, PM me soon.
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On August 11 2011 03:21 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 00:26 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I've sent a message to everyone in my group asking if we can PP our matches 2 hours, because on the 20th, 7 CEST, I am at work, and will be home 9 CEST. I also wrote here earlier, but nobodt replied.
What happens if I can't get in touch with them? All efforts to PP matches are independent. Read what I wrote to Assault. If no one will PP with you, you will get W.Oed.
Ok, thanks. I have contacted them all on ISL2 accounts, and now I made a thread about it also. Since this is over a week to our games, hopefully they will see it.
Question, if I understood correctly; If I can get hold of ISL2-Lion, which is my first match, and I win him. But then forfit those other games, and win again on HBR, if I get my opponent to agree, I will still get trough as nr #2 ?
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On August 11 2011 04:17 MaD[AoV] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 03:21 Game wrote:On August 11 2011 00:26 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I've sent a message to everyone in my group asking if we can PP our matches 2 hours, because on the 20th, 7 CEST, I am at work, and will be home 9 CEST. I also wrote here earlier, but nobodt replied.
What happens if I can't get in touch with them? All efforts to PP matches are independent. Read what I wrote to Assault. If no one will PP with you, you will get W.Oed. Ok, thanks. I have contacted them all on ISL2 accounts, and now I made a thread about it also. Since this is over a week to our games, hopefully they will see it. Question, if I understood correctly; If I can get hold of ISL2-Lion, which is my first match, and I win him. But then forfit those other games, and win again on HBR, if I get my opponent to agree, I will still get trough as nr #2 ?
Yes. But for clarity purposes, understand that you need to get all 3 people to agree to PP the final match on HBR versus you, so that the player you would be verse will be obligated to playing the match at the agreed time. Make sure to provide proof if any of these things happen.
Also remember that to play Lion you need to provide proof via one of the replay contact methods, and give us the time and day that it will be played so that a referee can be there.
One other thing to note for all players is that any match that is agreed to be played earlier that can be supplemented a referee cannot be played until the beginning of Friday of the play week due to the extended replay deadline.
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Question on accessing Fish. Whenever I try and install mini launcher I recieve warning for all the applications like APM and that the sources files cannot be found. Anyone know what causes this?
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same issue. I think windows is autdeleting things like APMlive because it registers it as a virus -_- how do I fix that?
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turn off your antivirus before running it, turn it back on afterwards.
Or see if you can add an exception to your antivirus program.
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I am having trouble fathoming why people wouldn't show up for a $1500 tournament when they have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning it. I really want to see some good games!
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On August 11 2011 09:08 Boxer(OD) wrote:
I am having trouble fathoming why people wouldn't show up for a $1500 tournament when they have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning it. I really want to see some good games!
Playa just didn't show.
Maximin had someone post that he is withdrawing.
Pidgin wasn't there, no clue why.
Hannigan was the only player from fOsc that came for iCCupCL vs vTv, really strange he didn't show for ISL2 which was only a couple of hours later.
FlaF posted this in Nb's Chatbox:
+ Show Spoiler +Nb.FlaF 03 Aug @ 17:52 CET i'm gonna miss another cw h00li i go to mountain this weekend ... sorry , pls don't hate me
so in terms of the 2 proposed choices that Game is debating between, the option of more invites is easier and less of a headache, but the option of a Losers' Tournament will be a hassle to organize however -> great to watch (and bet on) if all of the losers decide to show up.
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On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage." Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps." That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss.
The problem with this is that terran is only that insanely strong positional faction at the very top korean level. Below that, if anything, they struggle slightly. As such, it is not hardly a handycap for protoss to use old maps, but perhaps giving terran a chance.
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That's how I roll. No reasons for anything, just doing stuff on a whim.Nah, I just overslept. There was an alarm clock involved, but when you're out of gas, well.. that's self-evident. People that recommend 8 hours of sleep are true sages.
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Russian Federation18 Posts
Game, what about my group? (18).
2 guy not send replays. u re-randomize my group?
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On August 11 2011 09:58 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 06:19 tryummm wrote:Here is an interesting interview with Bisu and Stork on map balance less than a year ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169641Stork: "Protoss depend on catching Terran off guard to win. If a map is used for too long, no matter how unfavorable it is for Terran, they will be able to adapt eventually. And when they do, we lose our advantage." Bisu: "I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps." That's why I really don't understand why old maps are used in foreign tournaments. I'm not sure about map age relations with Zerg vs Terran, but I'm sure it messes those matchups up too. Moreover, some maps like Python and Longinus don't even support the current meta game (You can't really forge FE on Python...even pros have been 1 basing on it with BNET Attack) and Longinus is too small and the expansions are completely different. And a competent Terran should have adapted to old maps like Fighting Spirit, Match Point, Benzene, etc...to the point where its disadvantageous for Protoss. The problem with this is that terran is only that insanely strong positional faction at the very top korean level. Below that, if anything, they struggle slightly. As such, it is not hardly a handycap for protoss to use old maps, but perhaps giving terran a chance.
Are you serious?
Even back in the days it was a pain to play PvT on bluestorm already, all T has to do is to take his side of the map and campcampcamp, make turrets with spidermines behind against recalls, scan enough to be sure there are no carriers coming and just take his side of the map.
Known fact: If P and T have the same amount of bases overall, T wins. Cheap units ftw.. Hence, P is more likely to cheese pretty hard, for a very valid reason.
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On August 11 2011 02:55 Terrorterran wrote:well rules doesn't say anything about clearstats as far as I know. Only transfer is not allowed
Isn't he [a.G]TerranBoy? He basically had the same stats on that ID, anyway I don't see the difference of clearing or transferring, you are losing the stats either way. I would just like to know if my group remains the same or not.
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I can also say that in my group [ISL2]Para has done transfer to his other aka, iFU.Paradise, that means that he should be disqualified, and leaves only three left in our group.
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On August 11 2011 10:01 playa wrote:
That's how I roll. No reasons for anything, just doing stuff on a whim.Nah, I just overslept. There was an alarm clock involved, but when you're out of gas, well.. that's self-evident. People that recommend 8 hours of sleep are true sages.
A shame
On August 11 2011 11:06 zolotoi wrote:
Game, what about my group? (18).
2 guy not send replays. u re-randomize my group?
It all depends on how many players collectively didn't send in their replays per play day. Like this week (Play Day #2), only two people are missing replays therefore, I won't touch the groups.
On August 11 2011 11:28 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 02:55 Terrorterran wrote:On August 10 2011 18:01 dRaW wrote:On August 10 2011 11:12 reps)Plumbum wrote:
What with groups 7-12 will they be re-randomized? :o http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/ISL2-TerranBoy.htmlTerranboy no longer has stats, I guess he's removed? Also I am wondering when /who is in my group I might be late. Looking forward to watching groups 8, 11 and 12. well rules doesn't say anything about clearstats as far as I know. Only transfer is not allowed Isn't he [a.G]TerranBoy? He basically had the same stats on that ID, anyway I don't see the difference of clearing or transferring, you are losing the stats either way. I would just like to know if my group remains the same or not.
Almost 100% positive that TerranBoy cleared after he played Fosken for a pre-played match.
On August 11 2011 12:36 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I can also say that in my group [ISL2]Para has done transfer to his other aka, iFU.Paradise, that means that he should be disqualified, and leaves only three left in our group.
If I confirm what you say is true, another player will replace him. Well, at least they'll be given the chance to. Whether they do or not would be solely up to them.
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On August 11 2011 12:36 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I can also say that in my group [ISL2]Para has done transfer to his other aka, iFU.Paradise, that means that he should be disqualified, and leaves only three left in our group.
If I confirm what you say is true, another player will replace him. Well, at least they'll be given the chance to. Whether they do or not would be solely up to them.
When will that new player be chosen? Because, since this is true, just check his previous score in matchlist, and match it with his score now on the "new" account Anywho, I need to know who the 4th will be, so I can ask him to PP the games 2 hours. No luck so fare, and iCCup removed my thread on their site, so I made another one in despite.
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On August 11 2011 15:09 MaD[AoV] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 12:36 MaD[AoV] wrote:
I can also say that in my group [ISL2]Para has done transfer to his other aka, iFU.Paradise, that means that he should be disqualified, and leaves only three left in our group. Show nested quote +If I confirm what you say is true, another player will replace him. Well, at least they'll be given the chance to. Whether they do or not would be solely up to them. When will that new player be chosen? Because, since this is true, just check his previous score in matchlist, and match it with his score now on the "new" account Anywho, I need to know who the 4th will be, so I can ask him to PP the games 2 hours. No luck so fare, and iCCup removed my thread on their site, so I made another one in despite.
Check your inbox por favor.
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Wow mazur now paradaise... Tbh as previously mentioned it's better to have good games to watch than random C/C- guys who barely qualified, it's a shame that these guys are getting DQd like that.
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On August 09 2011 03:38 JoeKim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 03:28 Evets-X17 wrote:By dedication to our beloved GAME and his ISL2, I have made a photo montage to suit the occasion. Enjoy! lol
ROFL Joe this really cracked me up.
P.S: Dave why so sexy?
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On August 11 2011 15:59 dRaW wrote:
Wow mazur now paradaise... Tbh as previously mentioned it's better to have good games to watch than random C/C- guys who barely qualified, it's a shame that these guys are getting DQd like that.
It is a shame that people can't follow set rules, I'm in complete agreement.
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i love how i'm getting credit for quoting Evets' nuked post...hahahahaha
+ Show Spoiler +WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO BET ON ISL2 MATCHES, MAN UP ALREADY
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Joekim go do ISL2 interviews please!!!! So I know who to root for.
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Mister L.R.M)Game ploz consider using 2shared to upload a Minilauncher folder including all of the plug-ins. I imagine everyone has the same problem as me: not being able to get the program to run at all or not understanding what to do with plug-ins.
Evets is pro
Evets-x17 pro at chatcraft maybe. Rarely ever saw an X17er play a game back in the day idling in Clan x17. Like they were living in the nineties' chatroom age late into the 2000s.
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I wish the people who have done nothing but whined in this thread posted an equal amount of compliments to the people who made this tournament possible. I for one am grateful.
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On August 12 2011 06:02 Boxer(OD) wrote:
I wish the people who have done nothing but whined in this thread posted an equal amount of compliments to the people who made this tournament possible. I for one am grateful.
+1
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On August 12 2011 02:32 Boxer(OD) wrote:Mister L.R.M)Game ploz consider using 2shared to upload a Minilauncher folder including all of the plug-ins. I imagine everyone has the same problem as me: not being able to get the program to run at all or not understanding what to do with plug-ins. Evets-x17 pro at chatcraft maybe. Rarely ever saw an X17er play a game back in the day idling in Clan x17. Like they were living in the nineties' chatroom age late into the 2000s.
Page 9, post 2
I already posted it last night.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Guys, 7PM CEST = how much CET?
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On August 13 2011 01:43 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Guys, 7PM CEST = how much CET?
Edit: seems I was wrong, sorry.
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if you are living in CET zone, then 19, because it's simply summer/winter time. And we have either CET or CEST but not both at once.
edit: we are currently -7hours to the KST clock top right.
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we should just all live in 1 timezone
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On August 13 2011 06:41 JoeKim wrote:
we should just all live in 1 timezone
How profound that deep thought was.
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The groups will not be re-randomized. Hope to see everyone there tomorrow, and good luck players.
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The ladder should have had less players that qualify. Maybe then all of them would've shown up.
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On August 13 2011 17:10 Holy Check wrote:
The ladder should have had less players that qualify. Maybe then all of them would've shown up.
Valid point. Would've been an ISL1 repeat, or a slightly different format, or we even proposed a qualifier tournament format. However, this is the format that was chosen for greater entertainment value, amongst other reasons.
Edit: So far the players that haven't shown, and the ones that won't show have already quit BW or gone inactive... which has no bearing on their lack of group stage appearance whatsoever.
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On August 13 2011 10:13 dRaW wrote:How profound that deep thought was.
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies
and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these
mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
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hey man Im ISL2-TerranBoy. i only reset my account no transfer man.
I think it's unfair to me.
My games this in mi match list.
Very bad for me..
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On August 13 2011 16:49 Game wrote:The groups will not be re-randomized. Hope to see everyone there tomorrow, and good luck players.
wtf?
ANYWAYS I HAVE URGENT NEWS MUST SPEAK TO OFFICIAL ASAPLY!!!
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On August 14 2011 00:23 TerranBoy- wrote:hey man Im ISL2-TerranBoy. i only reset my account no transfer man. I think it's unfair to me. My games this in mi match list. Very bad for me..
1. Why would you reset?
2. Not only was it said tons of times, the rules also contain it: Keep the stats on your account.
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sorry sorry man was an oversight.
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cant wait to see group 8 and 12 being casted! go sayleeee
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On August 13 2011 19:05 JoeKim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 10:13 dRaW wrote:On August 13 2011 06:41 JoeKim wrote:
we should just all live in 1 timezone How profound that deep thought was. I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Inspectah Deck for teh win
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On August 14 2011 00:50 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 16:49 Game wrote:The groups will not be re-randomized. Hope to see everyone there tomorrow, and good luck players. wtf? ANYWAYS I HAVE URGENT NEWS MUST SPEAK TO OFFICIAL ASAPLY!!!
Messaged you at Skype...
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also ramms transferred stats o o
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Guys, Day 2 starts in 13 minutes.
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hey man LRM)GAME and me ?? can play? please man i dont transfer my stats only reset
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On August 14 2011 01:58 TerranBoy- wrote:hey man LRM)GAME and me ?? can play? please man i dont transfer my stats only reset
Yes, it was a mistake on our part. We thought you transferred but you only cleared, please show up.
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^_^ I really enjoy this tournament and gambit cup. Ty to the organizers. :p
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On August 14 2011 01:20 Michael(OD) wrote:
cant wait to see group 8 and 12 being casted! go sayleeee
DK could've had a chance , he got WO into winners game and didnt show, such a funny event
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong.
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" TUrettoo, Stargetuu " I like ur cast :p
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On August 14 2011 03:45 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong.
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I'm becoming a big fan of EleGant. I sincerely like the way he's 95% pointing out mistakes of the players.
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lol @ plub all happy to advance and feel like telling joekim that he was wrong with his preds
I have to agree, advancing by going all in against 2 players is the way too go.
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stream links? or results*
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On August 14 2011 05:44 vTv.Marine wrote:
lol @ plub all happy to advance and feel like telling joekim that he was wrong with his preds
I have to agree, advancing by going all in against 2 players is the way too go.
You just jealous you didn't think of it first. I love games when 2 players do really opposite all ins and results in scrappy games though.
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If i am not Mistaken :
Group 7 : Remag/Pez
Group 8 : Plumbum/Teacher
Group 9 : Astro/Fosken (Or did Terranboy advance??)
Group 10 : Bishop/2011
Group 11 : LML/Flip
Am i correct ?
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On August 14 2011 03:45 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong.
then you should have bet money against me.
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On August 14 2011 05:59 vTv.Marine wrote:
If i am not Mistaken :
Group 7 : Remag/Pez
Group 8 : Plumbum/Teacher
Group 9 : Astro/Fosken (Or did Terranboy advance??)
Group 10 : Bishop/2011
Group 11 : LML/Flip
Am i correct ?
Group 7: Megashira / Remag
Group 8: Ramms / God
Group 9 : Plumbum / Teacher
Group 10 : Astro / Terranboy
Group 11: Bishop / 2011
Group 12 : LML/Flip
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Both above posts are inaccurate due to 2011, as well as order wise. Please check the spoiler or the OP for accurate results.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
imo, additional invites suck, cause invited players are obviously more skilled, then those ones, who could qualify from groups.
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On August 14 2011 07:41 reps)Plumbum wrote:
imo, additional invites suck, cause invited players are obviously more skilled, then those ones, who could qualify from groups.
yah we cant have good players in the isl, that would be terrible
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well, from Plumbum's view, yes, makes it harder for him;d
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On August 14 2011 07:41 reps)Plumbum wrote:
imo, additional invites suck, cause invited players are obviously more skilled, then those ones, who could qualify from groups.
The additional invites will be potential and or players from the groups...
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Russian Federation484 Posts
On August 14 2011 06:03 JoeKim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:45 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong. then you should have bet money against me.
wow betting money? you might be joking me, we here in russia don't have enough money even for vodka, and you suggest me to bet T_T
On August 14 2011 09:42 LML wrote:
well, from Plumbum's view, yes, makes it harder for him;d
w/e how many times to make 5p.
+ Show Spoiler +
Cmon, guys, i just wanted to say it is not fear towards other players, who came and lost, and were not so lucky to receive a group with WO's. Obvly i am not going to make it far in this tournament.
Or if invites will be only from players, who lost? i just think that players, who did not came without serious reason, do not deserve to be invited.
Great tour (thx) and gl rest of players.
PS: my english is bad, sorry.
PPS: JoeKim is cute, but only in sunglasses
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On August 14 2011 12:00 reps)Plumbum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 06:03 JoeKim wrote:On August 14 2011 03:45 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong. then you should have bet money against me. wow betting money? you might be joking me, we here in russia don't have enough money even for vodka, and you suggest me to bet T_T PPS: JoeKim is cute, but only in sunglasses
lol, you would have won money, plumbum. and when did you see me with sunglasses?
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On August 14 2011 12:00 reps)Plumbum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 06:03 JoeKim wrote:On August 14 2011 03:45 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Hey, JoeKim, i am really sorry, but your prediction about my group was wrong. then you should have bet money against me. wow betting money? you might be joking me, we here in russia don't have enough money even for vodka, and you suggest me to bet T_T Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 09:42 LML wrote:
well, from Plumbum's view, yes, makes it harder for him;d w/e how many times to make 5p. + Show Spoiler +Cmon, guys, i just wanted to say it is not fear towards other players, who came and lost, and were not so lucky to receive a group with WO's. Obvly i am not going to make it far in this tournament. Or if invites will be only from players, who lost? i just think that players, who did not came without serious reason, do not deserve to be invited. Great tour (thx) and gl rest of players. PS: my english is bad, sorry. PPS: JoeKim is cute, but only in sunglasses
Plum, I'm not sure how to take that statement really. I don't think you meant it offensively, but inviting any player who didn't show or really put any effort into the tournament would be very lackluster on my part, and not ever going to happen.
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Just curious when do we find out who our opponents are for the next round?
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Game, sry, no offence for sure.
um,idk why wrote that actually, lol o_o..
prolly my heightened sense of justice played bad joke w/ me xд
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On August 14 2011 20:03 dRaW wrote:
Just curious when do we find out who our opponents are for the next round?
Sunday or Monday following Day 4 of the group stages.
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This is written by a player, and not confirmed. But, just so you understand, anti-hack is a hack itself. You must create a hack to prevent hacks, and then any hacker that wants to will make a hack to override it. iCCup's anti-hack doesn't work, nor does Mini-Launcher, nor does wLauncher. I promise you on everything that we have had something made to catch hackers, and for some, prevent them.
However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).
Needless to say, nothing will change due to 3xile's thread. He told me about it with his Korean-friend who put him onto the entire idea that _everyone hacks_ roughly an hour after posting it. As you can see, I've posted in that thread.
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I only read the start and I know that no anti-hack is hack proof but maybe mini is easier to abuse.
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as long as i have my lan latency everything will be fine :-)
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United Kingdom1685 Posts
On August 14 2011 05:26 Ribbon wrote:
I'm becoming a big fan of EleGant. I sincerely like the way he's 95% pointing out mistakes of the players.
:D thanks Ribbon. I've now got a 100% smooth stream, so my stream is becoming better by each week hehe.
As for this whole antihack thing, it's a pretty tricky situation... but it shouldn't affect this tournament, since every replay goes through counter-abuse.
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Day 3 Factoids:
Group 13:
+ Show Spoiler +para - DQd
2cryoc(T) [C] 50%, 70%vsT, 41%vsP 1-1 vs Lion
Mad[AoV](Race Pick) [B-] 87%, All Races/Match-ups balanced
Lion(T) [C+] 73%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs 2Cryoc
Group 14:
+ Show Spoiler +salshisha(T) [C] 60% Balanced all Match-ups
vorteksz(Z) [C] 49%, 17% vsZ, 56% vsT
non(T) [B-] 75%, Balanced all Match-ups 0-2 vs Zaraki
zaraki(Z) [B] 53%, 45%vsT 2-0 vs Non
Group 15:
+ Show Spoiler +
napoleon(Z, TvZ) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
[cDsuede](Z, PvZ) [C] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
500kg(P,ZvP) [C] 69%
nosgoth(Z) [C] 69%, 81% vsP
Group 16:
+ Show Spoiler +
Soko(T) [B]- 59%, vsP 48%
Hias(P) [C] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable PvT win vs Karate
must(P) [B] 57%, 1-1 vs Pallmall
pallmall(P) [B-] 64%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs Must
Group 17:
+ Show Spoiler +mtp(Z) - C+ 64% Balanced all Match-ups
sleep(Z) [C+] 74%, Balanced all Match-ups
zolotoi(P) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups
rocky(Z) [C+] 59%, vsZ 40%
Updated
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mtp was B+ in the past, I root for him, gNs.I- fighting;d
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On August 15 2011 22:38 LML wrote:
mtp was B+ in the past, I root for him, gNs.I- fighting;d
this is only isl2 ladder stats
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On August 15 2011 22:34 dRaW wrote:Day 3 Factoids: Group 13:+ Show Spoiler +mtp(Z) - C+ 64% Balanced all Match-ups 2-2 vs Must
must(P) [B] 57% PvZ 49% 2-2 vs mtp
Soko(T) [B]- 59% TvP 48%
Hias(P) [C] 71% Balanced all Match-ups *notable PvT win vs Karate pallmall(P) [B-] 64% Balanced all Match-ups 1-0 vs Rocky
500kg(P,ZvP) [C] 69%, 76%vsP
rocky(Z) [C+] 59% ZvsZ 40%
Carebear(Z ,TvZ) [C] 91% Balanced all Match-ups *notable TvZ win vs octzerg salshisha(T) [C] 60% Balanced all Match-ups
vorteksz(Z) [C] 49% 17% vs Z 56% vs T
non(T) [B-] 75% Balanaced all Match-ups 0-2 vs Zaraki
zaraki(Z) [B] 53% 45%vsT 2-0 vs Non para - DQd
2cryoc(T) [C] 50% 70%vsT 41%vsP 1-1 vs Lion
Mad[AoV](Race Pick) [B-] 87% All Races/Match-ups balanced
Lion(T) [C+] 73% Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs 2Cryoc zolotoi(P) [B] 71% Balanced all Match-ups
player(PvZ,TvT,TvP) [C+] 65% Balanced all Match-ups
cute(Z) [B-] 88% Balanced all Match-ups
Hary(Z,PvZ) [C-] 50% 36% vs Z Was really bored only took 15min
cant believe this only took 15 min haha interesting factoids
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On August 15 2011 22:42 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 22:38 LML wrote:
mtp was B+ in the past, I root for him, gNs.I- fighting;d this is only isl2 ladder stats
I know, I just wanted to throw it into the consideration
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On August 15 2011 22:34 dRaW wrote:Day 3 Factoids: Group 13:+ Show Spoiler +mtp(Z) - C+ 64% Balanced all Match-ups 2-2 vs Must
must(P) [B] 57%, vsZ 49% 2-2 vs mtp
Soko(T) [B]- 59%, vsP 48%
Hias(P) [C] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable PvT win vs Karate pallmall(P) [B-] 64%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-0 vs Rocky
500kg(P,ZvP) [C] 69%, 76%vsP
rocky(Z) [C+] 59%, vsZ 40% 0-1 vs Pallmall
Carebear(Z ,TvZ) [C] 91%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable TvZ win vs octzerg salshisha(T) [C] 60% Balanced all Match-ups
vorteksz(Z) [C] 49%, 17% vs Z, 56% vs T
non(T) [B-] 75%, Balanced all Match-ups 0-2 vs Zaraki
zaraki(Z) [B] 53%, 45%vsT 2-0 vs Non para - DQd
2cryoc(T) [C] 50%, 70%vsT, 41%vsP 1-1 vs Lion
Mad[AoV](Race Pick) [B-] 87%, All Races/Match-ups balanced
Lion(T) [C+] 73%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs 2Cryoc zolotoi(P) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups
player(PvZ,TvT,TvP) [C+] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
cute(Z) [B-] 88%, Balanced all Match-ups
Hary(Z,PvZ) [C-] 50%, 36% vs Z Was really bored only took 15min
i smell ISL2 match betting
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Canada1950 Posts
I'm down for some bets.. How about you choose any two people you think will win ISL2. If either win then you win, otherwise me
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Dave, any idea what the final group 16 will be? Who will step for Para? I've gotten Cryoc to agree, but still no reply from ISL-Lion aka Lion(OD)
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lol detective draw strikes again
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On August 16 2011 05:28 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Dave, any idea what the final group 16 will be? Who will step for Para? I've gotten Cryoc to agree, but still no reply from ISL-Lion aka Lion(OD)
MaD, you've given me a platform to make an announcement, thank you. I don't know who will replace ParA yet, no responses from the lower players.
However, To All Players:
Due to 4 missing replay packs (3 from one group), the groups for Day 3 will be re-randomized besides Group 16 if the replay packs that are missing are not submitted by at least two players by Thrusday August 18th @ 2359EDT (August 19th 0559CET).
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On August 16 2011 07:09 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 05:28 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Dave, any idea what the final group 16 will be? Who will step for Para? I've gotten Cryoc to agree, but still no reply from ISL-Lion aka Lion(OD) MaD, you've given me a platform to make an announcement, thank you. I don't know who will replace ParA yet, no responses from the lower players. However, To All Players:Due to 4 missing replay packs (3 from one group), the groups for Day 3 will be re-randomized besides Group 16 if the replay packs that are missing are not submitted by at least two players by Thrusday August 18th @ 2359EDT (August 19th 0559CET).
I know this is sort of random but if too many people drop out can we do some random show-match for people who should/could have qualified but failed to(i know it may be unfair but replacing with c- level players is rather boring)? i.e karate/castro, etc
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On August 16 2011 04:58 Assault_1 wrote:
I'm down for some bets.. How about you choose any two people you think will win ISL2. If either win then you win, otherwise me
it would be insane odds and upfront.
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On August 16 2011 10:51 JoeKim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 04:58 Assault_1 wrote:
I'm down for some bets.. How about you choose any two people you think will win ISL2. If either win then you win, otherwise me it would be insane odds and upfront.
well how many for 1:1 odds?
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Why don't you guys just pick a group of 10 players and go 1 at a time to pick 5 each, whoever gets the most furthest in the tour (due to an agreed pt system) gets the money. The first pick will be determined by a Bo99 rock paper scissors on sayle's stream.
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On August 16 2011 11:39 Assault_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:51 JoeKim wrote:On August 16 2011 04:58 Assault_1 wrote:
I'm down for some bets.. How about you choose any two people you think will win ISL2. If either win then you win, otherwise me it would be insane odds and upfront. well how many for 1:1 odds?
it wouldn't be 1:1 odds if i'm picking only 2 out of 64 players to take it all.
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Guys... there will be re-randomization this week, why are you talking about betting on unset groups?
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On August 16 2011 15:17 Game wrote:
Guys... there will be re-randomization this week, why are you talking about betting on unset groups?
nothing has been confirmed in terms of betting on ISL2 Matches, Assaulty was just trying to get me to throw money with 1:1 odds for who will win the Event, when his proposition is a highly one-sided gamble.
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Also, Dave. Since my first opponent is ISL2-Lion, but he hasn't answered me yet, and IF that's a big if, if he doesn't show up, but I come 2 hours later, who will get the WO etc. Since this will be in the last moment, I will try to change my shift from late to early, so I can make it. Hope this will work with those I work with. Have to show some dedication ;--)
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On August 16 2011 19:11 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Also, Dave. Since my first opponent is ISL2-Lion, but he hasn't answered me yet, and IF that's a big if, if he doesn't show up, but I come 2 hours later, who will get the WO etc. Since this will be in the last moment, I will try to change my shift from late to early, so I can make it. Hope this will work with those I work with. Have to show some dedication ;--)
Upon that "if" factor becoming real, he would receive the W.O for the first round and then go on to play in every other round normally, getting W.Oed if he still doesn't show only because you have informed me of your situation and desire to play.
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I hope ISL2 Teacher wins the tournament.I dont know why he is shown in the list as a toss player he is mainly terran
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On August 17 2011 12:20 virus0228 wrote:
I hope ISL2 Teacher wins the tournament.I dont know why he is shown in the list as a toss player he is mainly terran
PvT TvP PvZ. 2/3 P = T?
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i dont understand why ppl say iccup is full of protosses, since I mainly see zergs and terrans :OO
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On August 17 2011 22:32 Piste wrote:
i dont understand why ppl say iccup is full of protosses, since I mainly see zergs and terrans :OO
I would understand you saying zergs, but not Terrans. So few.
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Day 3 Groups:
All Day 3 Players Read This ^
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P.S. MaD, ParA's replacement didn't answer in time so although he's DQ'd he'll sit in the group as a dummy player.
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On August 19 2011 15:10 Game wrote:Day 3 Groups: All Day 3 Players Read This ^
On August 15 2011 22:34 dRaW wrote:Day 3 Factoids: Group 13:+ Show Spoiler +mtp(Z) - C+ 64% Balanced all Match-ups 2-2 vs Must
must(P) [B] 57%, vsZ 49% 2-2 vs mtp
Soko(T) [B]- 59%, vsP 48%
Hias(P) [C] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable PvT win vs Karate pallmall(P) [B-] 64%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-0 vs Rocky
500kg(P,ZvP) [C] 69%, 76%vsP
rocky(Z) [C+] 59%, vsZ 40% 0-1 vs Pallmall
Carebear(Z ,TvZ) [C] 91%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable TvZ win vs octzerg salshisha(T) [C] 60% Balanced all Match-ups
vorteksz(Z) [C] 49%, 17% vsZ, 56% vsT
non(T) [B-] 75%, Balanced all Match-ups 0-2 vs Zaraki
zaraki(Z) [B] 53%, 45%vsT 2-0 vs Non para - DQd
2cryoc(T) [C] 50%, 70%vsT, 41%vsP 1-1 vs Lion
Mad[AoV](Race Pick) [B-] 87%, All Races/Match-ups balanced
Lion(T) [C+] 73%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs 2Cryoc nosgoth(Z) [C] 69%, 81% vsP 55% vsZ
[cDsuede](Z, PvZ) [C] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
napoleon(Z, TvZ) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
sleep(Z) [C+] 74%, Balanced all Match-ups zolotoi(P) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups
player(PvZ,TvT,TvP) [C+] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
cute(Z) [B-] 88%, Balanced all Match-ups
Hary(Z,PvZ) [C-] 50%, 36% vs Z Was really bored only took 15min
Isn't group 18 on day3?
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On August 19 2011 19:34 dRaW wrote:
Isn't group 18 on day3?
I assume enouf players dropped out so that there is one group less playing. It will be the same as on day 1 where also only 5 groups played.
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On August 19 2011 21:28 Mango wrote:I assume enouf players dropped out so that there is one group less playing. It will be the same as on day 1 where also only 5 groups played.
Yeah I see it now, thanks. Updated the info on groups:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 22:34 dRaW wrote:Day 3 Factoids: Group 13:+ Show Spoiler +para - DQd
2cryoc(T) [C] 50%, 70%vsT, 41%vsP 1-1 vs Lion
Mad[AoV](Race Pick) [B-] 87%, All Races/Match-ups balanced
Lion(T) [C+] 73%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs 2Cryoc salshisha(T) [C] 60% Balanced all Match-ups
vorteksz(Z) [C] 49%, 17% vsZ, 56% vsT
non(T) [B-] 75%, Balanced all Match-ups 0-2 vs Zaraki
zaraki(Z) [B] 53%, 45%vsT 2-0 vs Non napoleon(Z, TvZ) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
[cDsuede](Z, PvZ) [C] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups
500kg(P,ZvP) [C] 69%
nosgoth(Z) [C] 69%, 81% vsP
Soko(T) [B]- 59%, vsP 48%
Hias(P) [C] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups *notable PvT win vs Karate
must(P) [B] 57%, 1-1 vs Pallmall
pallmall(P) [B-] 64%, Balanced all Match-ups 1-1 vs Must
mtp(Z) - C+ 64% Balanced all Match-ups
sleep(Z) [C+] 74%, Balanced all Match-ups
zolotoi(P) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups
rocky(Z) [C+] 59%, vsZ 40%
Updated
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I can please all that I will be able to make it tomorrow, wee!
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On August 17 2011 12:51 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 12:20 virus0228 wrote:
I hope ISL2 Teacher wins the tournament.I dont know why he is shown in the list as a toss player he is mainly terran PvT TvP PvZ. 2/3 P = T?
I follow him on TL stream and he is always playing terran or most of the time at least but I didnt know he played tournaments the way you explained.
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On August 17 2011 22:32 Piste wrote:
i dont understand why ppl say iccup is full of protosses, since I mainly see zergs and terrans :OO
True that there are many terrans on iccup but what is really hard is to find a good terran out sdide Korea
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Day 3 has begun...GL to all the players!
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On August 21 2011 09:19 Megashira wrote:
Results from day 3?
1+
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On August 21 2011 09:47 FyRe_DragOn wrote:1+
someone need to put link to vods day2 as well
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Congrats to all the players who made it to Ro64!
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Joekim this is why nobody wants to bet you, half the players don't even show up maybe in later rounds. Grats to the Ro64 qualifers so far.
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hey where this the group 18 ? who went?
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Day 4 Factoids:
Group 19:
+ Show Spoiler +TTF(T) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups: 1-0 vs Bylat
Octzerg(Z) [B+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 2-1 vs Bylat
Bylat(Z)[C+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 0-1 vs TTF, 1-2 vs Octzerg
zaMNal(Z) [C+] 64%, 30% vsZ
Group 20:
+ Show Spoiler +Mafius(Z) [C] 84% Balanced all Match-ups
MVP(Z) [C+] 71%, 64% vsZ
Vanatir(P) [B-] 63%, 50% vsP
White(P) [C] 62%, Balanced all Match-ups
Group 21:
+ Show Spoiler +Pike(Z) [A-] 77%, Balanced all Match-ups
Bibiane(T) [C+] 93%, Balanced all Match-ups
Zerggboy(Z) [C+] 68%, 35% vsT
Poetic(T) [C] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
Group 22:
+ Show Spoiler +Dragon(P, ZvP) [A]- 64%, Balanced all Match-ups: 4-2 vs Choosy
Gotunk(P) [B-] 67%, Balanced all Match-ups: 1-4 vs Choosy
H3ll(Z) [C] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
Choosy(Z, PvZ) [B+] 48%, Balanced all Match-ups: 2-4 vs Dragon, 4-1 vs Gotunk
Group 23:
+ Show Spoiler +Jinsus(P) - [C] 63% Balanced all Match-ups
Julia(Z) [C+] 89%, Balanced all Match-ups
Dsaqwe(P) [B] 85%, Balanced all Match-ups
Tama(P) [B] 61%, 48% vsP
Group 24:
+ Show Spoiler +Mmmbop(T) - [C] 61% 79% vsZ
BigPio(Z) [B] 70%, Balanced all Match-ups
Zepish(P) [B-] 53%%, 48% vsZ
Whistler(Z) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups
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TTF/Octzerg
Pike/Bibiane
Dragon/Choosy
Julia/Dsaqwe
Bigpio/Whistler
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On August 21 2011 18:20 dRaW wrote:Joekim this is why nobody wants to bet you, half the players don't even show up maybe in later rounds. Grats to the Ro64 qualifers so far.
anyone want to bet on the Last Group Stage day?
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is it confirmed groups will not be changed?
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On August 25 2011 09:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
is it confirmed groups will not be changed?
no, expect them to change as afaik we still have plenty of people missing reppacks
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I might be crazy but, i think Gotunk can beat Choosy and get out of his group
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i will bet with you joekim, what odds and is there parlay?
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On August 25 2011 09:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
is it confirmed groups will not be changed?
I will have to update those group facts ;_; a lot of ppl are missing in action and didn't upload reps, etc.
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On August 25 2011 09:58 LastOfADyingBreed wrote:
i will bet with you joekim, what odds and is there parlay?
odds depend on the match, we might be able to do parlays. PM me your MSN/Skype/Facebook, whichever one you're active on.
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ok so we are completed to play on saturday ;; gl for all my group enemy's :p
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On August 17 2011 23:35 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 22:32 Piste wrote:
i dont understand why ppl say iccup is full of protosses, since I mainly see zergs and terrans :OO I would understand you saying zergs, but not Terrans. So few.
well only played till C, and havent played much after that, but I mostly met terrans.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/ISL2_HIAS.html
on the higher ranks you'll see more zergs tho!
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zzz... will update again tomorrow ;_; Group 20 is complete death group, and dragons group became easier
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Group 23.. ^^ Anyone know aka on Julia? She/he is good, but I think whistlerr + choosey advances from that group.
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JoeKim's Day 4 Group Bets:
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Day 4 Factoids:
Group 19:
+ Show Spoiler +TTF(T) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups: 1-0 vs Bylat
Octzerg(Z) [B+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 2-1 vs Bylat
Bylat(Z)[C+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 0-1 vs TTF, 1-2 vs Octzerg
zaMNal(Z) [C+] 64%, 30% vsZ
Group 20:
+ Show Spoiler +Tama(P) [B] 61%, 48% vsP : 0-2 vs BigPio, 0-2 vs Gotunk
Dsaqwe(P) [B] 85%, Balanced all Match-ups : 0-1 vs BigPio
Gotunk(P) [B-] 67%, Balanced all Match-ups : 2-0 vs Tama
BigPio(Z) [B] 70%, Balanced all Match-ups : 2-0 vs Tama, 1-0 vs Dsaqwe
Group 21:
+ Show Spoiler +Pike(Z) [A-] 77%, Balanced all Match-ups
Bibiane(T) [C+] 93%, Balanced all Match-ups
Zerggboy(Z) [C+] 68%, 35% vsT
Poetic(T) [C] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
Group 22:
+ Show Spoiler +Choosy(Z, PvZ) [B+] 48%, Balanced all Match-ups: 4-3 vs Whistler, 1-0 vs Julia
Whistler(Z) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups: 3-4 vs Choosy
Julia(Z) [C+] 89%, Balanced all Match-ups : 0-1 vs Choosy
Mmmbop(T) - [C] 61%, 79% vsZ
Group 23:
+ Show Spoiler +White(P) [C] 62%, Balanced all Match-ups
Dragon(P, ZvP) [A]- 64%, Balanced all Match-ups : 3-3 vs Zepish
Vanatir(P) [B-] 63%, 50% vsP
Zepish(P) [B-] 53%, 48% vsZ : 3-3 vs Dragon
updated
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shit, i wish i saw that before i bet against joekim
thanx for the statistics draw
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On August 27 2011 05:16 dRaW wrote:Day 4 Factoids: Group 19:+ Show Spoiler +TTF(T) [B-] 83%, Balanced all Match-ups: 1-0 vs Bylat
Octzerg(Z) [B+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 2-1 vs Bylat
Bylat(Z)[C+] 60%, Balanced all Match-ups: 0-1 vs TTF, 1-2 vs Octzerg
zaMNal(Z) [C+] 64%, 30% vsZ Tama(P) [B] 61%, 48% vsP : 0-2 vs BigPio, 0-2 vs Gotunk
Dsaqwe(P) [B] 85%, Balanced all Match-ups : 0-1 vs BigPio
Gotunk(P) [B-] 67%, Balanced all Match-ups : 2-0 vs Tama
BigPio(Z) [B] 70%, Balanced all Match-ups : 2-0 vs Tama, 1-0 vs Dsaqwe
Pike(Z) [A-] 77%, Balanced all Match-ups
Bibiane(T) [C+] 93%, Balanced all Match-ups
Zerggboy(Z) [C+] 68%, 35% vsT
Poetic(T) [C] 65%, Balanced all Match-ups
Choosy(Z, PvZ) [B+] 48%, Balanced all Match-ups: 4-3 vs Whistler, 1-0 vs Julia
Whistler(Z) [B] 71%, Balanced all Match-ups: 3-4 vs Choosy
Julia(Z) [C+] 89%, Balanced all Match-ups : 0-1 vs Choosy
Mmmbop(T) - [C] 61%, 79% vsZ
White(P) [C] 62%, Balanced all Match-ups
Dragon(P, ZvP) [A]- 64%, Balanced all Match-ups : 3-3 vs Zepish
Vanatir(P) [B-] 63%, 50% vsP
Zepish(P) [B-] 53%, 48% vsZ : 3-3 vs Dragon
updated
Thanks for the update
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what is 13:00 CLT in CET Timezone ??
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On August 27 2011 08:44 dM-White wrote:
what is 13:00 CLT in CET Timezone ??
He means at what CET time does ISL group stage starts?
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On August 27 2011 08:44 dM-White wrote:
what is 13:00 CLT in CET Timezone ??
Seeing that your guys time just changed for +1 it is 1800CET. Por que? The time Kaal ISL starts tomorrow for you is 2pm o_o... so it's 14CLST (Chile standard summer time)
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however, still no bets until can confirm people to show
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And the update of the first page?
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On August 27 2011 13:54 Fkc)Bishop wrote:
And the update of the first page?
Edit: thanks for the reminder, it's all updated.
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As promised...
The Round of 64 Maps
Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0
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On August 27 2011 14:21 Game wrote:As promised... The Round of 64 Maps Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0
Blue storm / Othello group stages to Blue storm/Othello Ro64 stages? ;_; Would have loved Circuit Breaker / Aztec / La Mancha
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On August 27 2011 15:05 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 14:21 Game wrote:As promised... The Round of 64 Maps Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0 Blue storm / Othello group stages to Blue storm/Othello Ro64 stages? ;_; Would have loved Circuit Breaker / Aztec / La Mancha
All of the maps cycle. It is the last time besides the finals that they will be an option.
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On August 27 2011 09:15 Game wrote:Seeing that your guys time just changed for +1 it is 1800CET. Por que? The time Kaal ISL starts tomorrow for you is 2pm o_o... so it's 14CLST (Chile standard summer time)
2 PM with our new time its 19 CET not 18... hf =)
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On August 27 2011 15:52 dM-White wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 09:15 Game wrote:On August 27 2011 08:44 dM-White wrote:
what is 13:00 CLT in CET Timezone ?? Seeing that your guys time just changed for +1 it is 1800CET. Por que? The time Kaal ISL starts tomorrow for you is 2pm o_o... so it's 14CLST (Chile standard summer time) 2 PM with our new time its 19 CET not 18... hf =)
I know that. That's exactly what my post says.
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My girls going out tonight but i'ma fall back tonight, me and my man take it in tonight, and we gon get it in tonight
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Russian Federation178 Posts
maps for RO64 suck for toss(
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why was my group changed? i was in group 24.... and now 22?
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On August 27 2011 14:21 Game wrote:As promised... The Round of 64 Maps Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0
What you promised were decent maps, and yet, you don't deliver, damn you dave-.-
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Where is group 24 and what happened to jinsus why isnt he in a group for today's games?
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On August 27 2011 22:27 uT)WhistleR wrote:
why was my group changed? i was in group 24.... and now 22?
Please read the thread thoroughly. Re-randomization has taken place throughout the entirety of the group stages.
On August 27 2011 23:33 drever1 wrote:
Where is group 24 and what happened to jinsus why isnt he in a group for today's games?
Enough players did not send in their replay packs that the groups needed to be re-randomized. jinSuS is one of those players.
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Rooting hard for all Terrans!
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lame
im not reading 17 pages sry
User was warned for this post
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On August 27 2011 23:22 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 14:21 Game wrote:As promised... The Round of 64 Maps Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0 What you promised were decent maps, and yet, you don't deliver, damn you dave-.-
It's called time travel, we're playing 2005 maps in 2011.
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thanks sayle for the great casting, hope to see more games next week
and in round of 32 lt for sure
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who uses the nick "ISL2" on fish?
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On August 27 2011 15:19 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 15:05 dRaW wrote:On August 27 2011 14:21 Game wrote:As promised... The Round of 64 Maps Round of 64 - Best of 3 - 1 Set Map
Start: Tau Cross 1.1
Pick from: Blue Storm 1.2, Othello 1.1, Icarus 1.0 Blue storm / Othello group stages to Blue storm/Othello Ro64 stages? ;_; Would have loved Circuit Breaker / Aztec / La Mancha All of the maps cycle. It is the last time besides the finals that they will be an option.
Why are old maps even cycled in/out? It causes all kinds of balancing problems. I don't see any point in not just using the maps professionals play on and not using Blue Storm, Benzene, etc...
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On August 28 2011 13:50 uT)WhistleR wrote:
who uses the nick "ISL2" on fish?
Game
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
TTF vs OctZerg was cool Such a "foreigner Kwanro" this OctZerg is.
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lul
first thing he says when i joine the channel is "i hate whistler"
nice admin yo
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
ROFLLLL nice admin indeed
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A lack of professionalism from LRM)Game? I for one am shocked and appalled.
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On August 28 2011 21:57 uT)WhistleR wrote:
lul
first thing he says when i joine the channel is "i hate whistler"
nice admin yo
Possibly stemming from your past BM and response to an invite being "fuck off" two days ago. Or it could be that we were discussing our opinions on you, seems I was not the only person with that view.
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yeah haha i got this:
Hello FlaF and WhistleR,
You are receiving this PM as an invite to a small private tournament. It will be the third (3rd) LRM) island tournament. It is more exclusive and a 2v2 island tournament. There will be a maximum of 8 teams, but if you are receiving this PM - your ally is up to you. Also, if you are receiving this, you were requested to play by the sponsor specifically. The thread will be made late tomorrow or Saturday during the 4th day of ISL2.
Sincerely,
LRM)Game
and i reply'd "fuck off" ^^
but ur an admin.. im not, so keep ur manner up game
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WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please..
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fuck off = bm
i hate whistler = Game's opinion about you
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On August 29 2011 04:03 uT)WhistleR wrote:
yeah haha i got this:
Hello FlaF and WhistleR,
You are receiving this PM as an invite to a small private tournament. It will be the third (3rd) LRM) island tournament. It is more exclusive and a 2v2 island tournament. There will be a maximum of 8 teams, but if you are receiving this PM - your ally is up to you. Also, if you are receiving this, you were requested to play by the sponsor specifically. The thread will be made late tomorrow or Saturday during the 4th day of ISL2.
Sincerely,
LRM)Game
and i reply'd "fuck off" ^^
but ur an admin.. im not, so keep ur manner up game
whistler I really hope you're joking but I don't think you are..
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you guys can write your private love convos to eachother, we don't want to read it in this thread. When are next groups being announced? It's basically national security that I be informed right away.
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On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please..
im not black??? innocent in what?
just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny
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On August 29 2011 06:15 dRaW wrote:
you guys can write your private love convos to eachother, we don't want to read it in this thread. When are next groups being announced? It's basically national security that I be informed right away.
Sorry DraW you can probably relate to this but I'm having really bad computer issues right now. Hopefully tonight *pray that my computer doesn't shut off before I can randomize the brackets etc* I can get everything I need to Pholon to make the Round of 64 thread. To be very honest my control over this is very limited right now besides information, and hopefully Pholon can come through.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny
And you shouldn't bm admins who's tournament you play in.. for free.. and are able to win cash..
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whistler, you get invited to another prize tournament & your response to the host/organizer is "fuck off"?
you're a complete moron, i hope you get fucking owned vs your 1st in Ro64. undeserving pos. don't be surprised if you never get invited to anything else *subtext* = banned from future events. and yes, that means there will be other opportunities post-ISL2,
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On August 29 2011 10:29 MaD[AoV] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny And you shouldn't bm admins who's tournament you play in.. for free.. and are able to win cash..
ur mistaking, he bm'd me, i never bm'd him in isl, that other tournament was a completely different matter
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On August 29 2011 10:40 JoeKim wrote:
whistler, you get invited to another prize tournament & your response to the host/organizer is "fuck off"?
you're a complete moron, i hope you get fucking owned vs your 1st in Ro64. undeserving pos. don't be surprised if you never get invited to anything else *subtext* = banned from future events. and yes, that means there will be other opportunities post-ISL2,
said the guy whos banned from iccup..
well i dont like game, like many others
and yes, i probably will get owned because i dont rly play bw anymore, im just playing a game/cl here and there to try not to completely lose my sense of the game and hopefully get a ok position in isl.
foreign bw is next to dead so if i dont get any more invites thats kk np, after isl im not gonna play anyway, no need 2 bm
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better for both to calm down, and dont know why admins not ban all of u!
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On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny
Admin shouldn't BM the players.
Players shouldn't BM the admins.
It goes both ways unfortunately. O_O!
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On August 29 2011 11:52 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny Admin shouldn't BM the players. Players shouldn't BM the admins.It goes both ways unfortunately. O_O!
I didn't BM him, I stated my opinion about him in a group conversation. I'm not really going to clear up too much on this because it's clearly trollbait, but WhistleR has never said anything good about me behind my back or to my face, and I don't expect that to change. His lack of manner are noted nearly everywhere he goes, as well as mine, but in this case me stating my dislike for him really has no pertinence to this tournament nor my ability or actions in running it. I'm only quoting you because you put it best btw SNM
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Are there any reasons why no Korean IPs in the tourney other than general skill gap?
On August 29 2011 11:59 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 11:52 supernovamaniac wrote:On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny Admin shouldn't BM the players. Players shouldn't BM the admins.It goes both ways unfortunately. O_O! I didn't BM him, I stated my opinion about him in a group conversation. I'm not really going to clear up too much on this because it's clearly trollbait, but WhistleR has never said anything good about me behind my back or to my face, and I don't expect that to change. His lack of manner are noted nearly everywhere he goes, as well as mine, but in this case me stating my dislike for him really has no pertinence to this tournament nor my ability or actions in running it. I'm only quoting you because you put it best btw SNM
lolol this makes me imagine: "Y DON'T U COME ON ICCUP AN SAY IT 2 MY FACE". Takes balls to type what you think to someone's face.
sorry if you guys actually know each other in real life and can thus actually meet face to face.
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On August 29 2011 13:20 reincremate wrote:Are there any reasons why no Korean IPs in the tourney other than general skill gap? Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 11:59 Game wrote:On August 29 2011 11:52 supernovamaniac wrote:On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:On August 29 2011 04:04 PiKe wrote:
WhistleR please stop saying trash, you are trying to show that you are gm and innocent ? nigga please.. im not black??? innocent in what? just saying an admin shouldnt bm the players whos participatin in their tourny Admin shouldn't BM the players. Players shouldn't BM the admins.It goes both ways unfortunately. O_O! I didn't BM him, I stated my opinion about him in a group conversation. I'm not really going to clear up too much on this because it's clearly trollbait, but WhistleR has never said anything good about me behind my back or to my face, and I don't expect that to change. His lack of manner are noted nearly everywhere he goes, as well as mine, but in this case me stating my dislike for him really has no pertinence to this tournament nor my ability or actions in running it. I'm only quoting you because you put it best btw SNM lolol this makes me imagine: "Y DON'T U COME ON ICCUP AN SAY IT 2 MY FACE". Takes balls to type what you think to someone's face. sorry if you guys actually know each other in real life and can thus actually meet face to face.
First day meeting snipin_panda for real life: Constant BM bothways.
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On August 29 2011 08:19 uT)WhistleR wrote:
ur mistaking, he bm'd me, i never bm'd him in isl, that other tournament was a completely different matter
This all started for the fact that you randomly BM'd Choosy after he beated your ass 2-1 in CL...No need to point out the lack of manners u have in every event besides you forela BM'ing someone who's offering money to you? Are you forela?
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On August 29 2011 21:49 SouthPark wrote:
When we know ro64? ;>
yeah +1
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United Kingdom1685 Posts
Yeah please no arguing in this thread. PLEASE! It's distracting from the tournament. That's not good.
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On August 29 2011 21:49 SouthPark wrote:
When we know ro64? ;>
Latest = Wednesday.
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Whenever I finish my videos.
Whoops, did I say that aloud?
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/w Game can you give me the worst opponent? I already sent the money in the mail.
edit: whisper doesn't work on TL.net....wtf?
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im getting bracket info withdrawal symptoms..plz help me
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On August 30 2011 05:34 dRaW wrote:
/w Game can you give me the worst opponent? I already sent the money in the mail.
edit: whisper doesn't work on TL.net....wtf?
but you already played me =(
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On August 30 2011 07:17 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 05:34 dRaW wrote:
/w Game can you give me the worst opponent? I already sent the money in the mail.
edit: whisper doesn't work on TL.net....wtf? but you already played me =(
Yeah I have to pay per opponent, and also that whisper was private.
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gl hf 2 all who get out of the groups
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Russian Federation178 Posts
damn monster group for me, always losing to oya(
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Canada1950 Posts
Ok then.. kidcanada/sziky, god/sneazel/trutacz, ramms/ace, pike/southpark in the same groups.
sorry joekim its impossible to predict now, I'm not gonna do our bet.
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On August 31 2011 06:33 Assault_1 wrote:
Ok then.. kidcanada/sziky, god/sneazel/trutacz, ramms/ace, pike/southpark in the same groups.
sorry joekim its impossible to predict now, I'm not gonna do our bet.
lol is easy
kidcanada vs sziky ( who is him rofl) KC for sure sneazel ACE
and winner not other than KC
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On August 31 2011 06:41 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 06:33 Assault_1 wrote:
Ok then.. kidcanada/sziky, god/sneazel/trutacz, ramms/ace, pike/southpark in the same groups.
sorry joekim its impossible to predict now, I'm not gonna do our bet. lol is easy kidcanada vs sziky ( who is him rofl) KC for sure sneazel ACE and winner not other than KC
lets do some math.
Say kidcanada has an 85% chance to beat anyone he plays. After 6 rounds, (0.85)^6 = 38% chance to win the tournament. So chances are that he won't end up winning.
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[QUOTE]On August 31 2011 06:41 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 31 2011 06:33 Assault_1 wrote:
kidcanada vs sziky ( who is him rofl) KC for sure[/QUOTE]
you better be kidding;d
astro might be good, but sziky is anything but easy to beat lol, one of the real top foreigners.
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LOL I got a bracket with 7 zergs.
wish I didn't have to play baku t.t
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Anyways based on what draw posted here's some predictions for each leg finals imo.
Astro + Sziky
Andrey + Shauni
God + trutacz
Pike + Southpark
Bakuryu + Karate
Ramms + Terror
Dsaqwe + Bibiane
Whistler + Oya
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Oh pikeeee bring back memory, 2007 can-a vs pol-a 1h15min game on python
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Why is Terror in third leg btw ?
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This tournament is just great!
GL to all the players
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holy shit the sc1 scene has completly changed, dont recognize 3/4 of the players lol
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On August 31 2011 10:01 TT1 wrote:
holy shit the sc1 scene has completly changed, dont recognize 3/4 of the players lol
i know u famous hacker on the scene
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Bleh. If you notice 2 posts above you I kindly asked EnjoYmE (who original noticed/posted it) to delete it until the thread that will be posted tomorrow. Damn you Cameron.
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I like how someone who lost was just invited back into the tournament...Maybe you should just invite all the favorites back after they lose for every single round...until all the players you deem less worthy are eliminated.
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On August 31 2011 10:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 10:01 TT1 wrote:
holy shit the sc1 scene has completly changed, dont recognize 3/4 of the players lol i know u famous hacker on the scene
good thing that u know me, i dunno who u are =[
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Sigh, SC2-player-troll...
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yeah if you get eliminated, why re-invite ;_;
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I have to agree, re-inviting a player that lost is pretty lame....
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and then a hero comes along, with the strength to carry on
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go to hell michael i hope u catch the flu
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On August 31 2011 11:08 tryummm wrote:
I like how someone who lost was just invited back into the tournament...Maybe you should just invite all the favorites back after they lose for every single round...until all the players you deem less worthy are eliminated.
Thanks for your opinion. Just kidding. I don't need coaching lessons on organization from you, so for the greater good of your fingers well being, just keep your suggestions to yourself. 
In response to AstrO (don't wanna quote) I re-invited him due to his high level of play, his effort shown in ISL2, manner, and overall zest to play the game. He played really well in the group stages and thus deserved a second chance. Otherwise, his invite would've been optioned to a player who put literally no effort into qualifying or playing in ISL2. Ironic, because one of the invites fits that category.
P.S the last invite confirmed today and it is... + Show Spoiler + I thought it only to be fair to announce this given the knowledge of all of the other invites via the liquipedia page.
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looks like I only have to practice zerg vs zerg so I should be in shape in 30 minutes
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Wait does koll racepick tvz? if he does ill random that ass
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On August 31 2011 14:05 sicklucker wrote:
Wait does koll racepick tvz? if he does ill random that ass
Don't know this koll character, but some guy named Kolll is hella sick at ZvZ. Better not get overconfident broski.
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On August 31 2011 08:13 NbSky wrote:
Anyways based on what draw posted here's some predictions for each leg finals imo.
Astro + Sziky
Andrey + Shauni
God + trutacz
Pike + Southpark
Bakuryu + Karate
Ramms + Terror
Dsaqwe + Bibiane
Whistler + Oya
you have "karate" over koll and castro? is there another super gosu I need to be worried about?
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Is that midian?rofl what a group of death and rumor is I got a+ by dodging all match ups but zerg vs zerg
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On August 31 2011 14:06 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 14:05 sicklucker wrote:
Wait does koll racepick tvz? if he does ill random that ass Don't know this koll character, but some guy named Kolll is hella sick at ZvZ. Better not get overconfident broski.
not so much overconfident as its zvz so I my chance of winning goes up quite a bit ;o
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On August 31 2011 06:33 Assault_1 wrote:
Ok then.. kidcanada/sziky, god/sneazel/trutacz, ramms/ace, pike/southpark in the same groups.
sorry joekim its impossible to predict now, I'm not gonna do our bet.
i figured you'd bail.
My Predictions/Bets
First Leg:
+ Show Spoiler +
OctZerg > Nosgoth
Sziky > non
Ruarc > TTF
Astro > Dragon
Sziky > OctZerg
Astro > Ruarc
Sziky > Astro
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Andrey > Muff2n
Szajna > Pallmall
Shauni > Justice
Pro7ect > Megashira
Szajna > Andrey
Pro7ect > Shauni
Pro7ect > Szajna
Second Leg:
+ Show Spoiler +
Michael > LML
GoD > ???
Sneazel > gag
Trutacz > 500kg
Michael > GoD
Sneazel > Trutacz
Michael > Sneazel
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Heme > Cryoc
Pike > Bizarre
Teacher > Zaraki
Flip > SouthPark
Heme > Pike
Flip > Teacher (sorry Mat, ykno why-.-)
Heme > Flip
Third Leg:
+ Show Spoiler +
Bakuryu > ZZZero
Gotunk > Rocky
Kolll > Target
Castro > Karate
Bakuryu > Gotunk
Kolll > Castro
Kolll > Bakuryu
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Ace > Ramms
Deska > Bishop
Patron > Vanatir
Terror > Bandy
Ace > Deska
Terror > Patron
Ace > Terror
Fourth Leg:
+ Show Spoiler +
Choosy > Terranboy
Bibiane > Blazin
Dsaqwe > Remag
Plumbum > TEH
Bibiane > Choosy
Dsaqwe > Plumbum
Dsaqwe > Bibiane
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Jumper > Sleep
Oya > Must
Kashu > Whistler
Mad > Technics
Oya > Jumper
Kashu > Mad
Oya > Kashu
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Joeski broski save it for tomorrah when the real deal comes out huh?
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On August 31 2011 15:47 Game wrote:Joeski broski save it for tomorrah when the real deal comes out huh?
i dunno what you mean?
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i PMed MaD[AoV] to PP the match for some days, if someone can get him to log into his acc here, i will be v v thankful ;D
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On August 31 2011 14:10 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 08:13 NbSky wrote:
Anyways based on what draw posted here's some predictions for each leg finals imo.
Astro + Sziky
Andrey + Shauni
God + trutacz
Pike + Southpark
Bakuryu + Karate
Ramms + Terror
Dsaqwe + Bibiane
Whistler + Oya you have "karate" over koll and castro? is there another super gosu I need to be worried about?
ZvZ can go either way, Karate has been playing very well as of late (most wins in gambit) and has beaten top zergs before so why not? Predictions are your own opinions, if I'm wrong I'm wrong.
I'd spend more time worrying about your own group than my predictions.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
when leg 4 plays? ;o
ro8 - random brackets?
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On August 31 2011 23:40 reps)Plumbum wrote:
when leg 4 plays? ;o
ro8 - random brackets?
every1 plays this saturday at 19cet.
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castro and kolll are not that active and zvz is coinflip, probably why people predict karate to win. However, I believe that if I beat dragon in first round, sziky will be no problem expect to see some mind control.
edit: and I dont even know who ttf or ruarc is so I expect it will be a free win.
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can i transfer or clearstats now?
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On September 01 2011 03:12 Sneazel wrote:
can i transfer or clearstats now?
You can clear, but you can't transfer.
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On August 31 2011 18:37 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
i PMed MaD[AoV] to PP the match for some days, if someone can get him to log into his acc here, i will be v v thankful ;D
I'll talk to him for you, to make sure.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
Today will be played all games or only 1st round? oo
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Ro64 will be played today @ 20:00 CET
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On September 04 2011 01:42 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Today will be played all games or only 1st round? oo
I am wondering on the same matter. Only 1 bo3 today, or play the whole leg?
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It must be the hardest thing in the world to read things.
Maybe read before saying you are wondering, if you were really wondering you would try to inform yourself by first checking every relevant threads?
It's been announced together with the ISL2 itself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236263
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On September 04 2011 03:36 LML wrote:It must be the hardest thing in the world to read things. Maybe read before saying you are wondering, if you were really wondering you would try to inform yourself by first checking every relevant threads? It's been announced together with the ISL2 itself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236263
why so hostile yo, wasn't aware that there was a 2nd ISL2 thread, as you can see from my post number, I don't use this site that often.
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Saturday (2011-09-10)
Ruarc(OD)>AstrO
Michael(OD)<GoD-
OctoberZerg<Sziky
ZaRaKi<SouthPark
KaShu>Technics
Shauni>Pro7ecT_kr
kolll>CaStrO
DeSka<Ace
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Michael 9191 A-
trutaCz 9022 A-
Pro7ecT 8324 B+
Jumper 8173 B+
andrey 8142 B+![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Pholon/ISL2ro961.png)
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ISL2-TechnicS
ISL2_OyA
ISL2-Muff2n
ISL2.Assault @ BlueStorm
ISL2-happyFlaF < 
ISL2.hanniGan @ BlueStorm --> WalkOver 
ISL2-GoD @ Blue Storm
ISL2[TerrOr]Nb > 
ISL2.ZeaRush @ Blue Storm
ISL2-Wallace < 
ISL2-MaD[AoV] > 
ISL2-Zaraki @ BlueStorm
ISL2-Napoleon > 
ISL2.OctZerg @ BlueStorm --> Both players advance to the Round of 64
ISL2-dsaqwe @ BlueStorm --> WalkOver
ISL2-Poetic @ BlueStorm --> Neither played showed.![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/HawaiianPig/ISL2/bannerdecorated.jpg)
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