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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 30 2011 09:02 GMT
#341
He stuck on 2 bases for too long.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 30 2011 09:03 GMT
#342
On July 30 2011 18:01 Fenrax wrote:
that High Templar next to my Drone line charging his energy... I don't think he has any bad intentions.

and that Dark Templar there in my Mineral line right under my Overlord... nah he is probably a nice guy


This sums up the horror of this game nicely.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 30 2011 09:03 GMT
#343
On July 30 2011 18:02 mnesthes wrote:
He stuck on 2 bases for too long.

aaaand

how he was supposed to get the third one with that constant loldra pressure ??
T H C makes ppl happy
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 30 2011 09:04 GMT
#344
On July 30 2011 18:01 Fenrax wrote:
that High Templar next to my Drone line charging his energy... I don't think he has any bad intentions.

and that Dark Templar there in my Mineral line right under my Overlord... nah he is probably a nice guy

That Shuttle flying overhead looks pretty friendly too... Let's wave at it!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
July 30 2011 09:05 GMT
#345
There's seriously no way best could've won with his bo, he should've played like shy did, go with early zealot and juz kill off the zerg before hydras come in massive numbers
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
July 30 2011 09:05 GMT
#346
On July 30 2011 18:03 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:02 mnesthes wrote:
He stuck on 2 bases for too long.

aaaand

how he was supposed to get the third one with that constant loldra pressure ??


Yeah seriously, if he could actually expo, he would be able to afford recanoning his nat. Then he probably could have just macroed out the rest of the game, because great's econs was in tatters, he was barely even redroning cos of how many hydras he was still making.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
July 30 2011 09:05 GMT
#347
On July 30 2011 18:00 Sinedd wrote:
you saw this game and many others ?

than its just lol

people saying what they are seeing bro

Exactly, they are saying what they are seeing instead of thinking critically.

Just like "lol one person has more units than the other -> outmacro'd!!!"
The original Bogus fan.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
July 30 2011 09:06 GMT
#348
I guess Best is no longer a viable Ace option for PL finals
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 30 2011 09:08 GMT
#349
On July 30 2011 18:05 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:00 Sinedd wrote:
you saw this game and many others ?

than its just lol

people saying what they are seeing bro

Exactly, they are saying what they are seeing instead of thinking critically.

Just like "lol one person has more units than the other -> outmacro'd!!!"

well...

if one dude have more stuff than the other dude when they are on even bases, then one dude is probably outmacroing the other

right ?

...
T H C makes ppl happy
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 30 2011 09:08 GMT
#350
On July 30 2011 18:03 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:02 mnesthes wrote:
He stuck on 2 bases for too long.

aaaand

how he was supposed to get the third one with that constant loldra pressure ??
That's his problem.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 30 2011 09:08 GMT
#351
12 hatch -> gas -> pool for great

Early gas -> fac for classic.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 30 2011 09:08 GMT
#352
On July 30 2011 18:08 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:03 Sinedd wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:02 mnesthes wrote:
He stuck on 2 bases for too long.

aaaand

how he was supposed to get the third one with that constant loldra pressure ??
That's his problem.

I laughed sir.







not really but you know...
T H C makes ppl happy
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#353
pew pew build for the win.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#354
2port from Classic
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
July 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#355
On July 30 2011 18:06 One Page Memory wrote:
I guess Best is no longer a viable Ace option for PL finals


Imo he never was. You can send Best vs Flash during the season but in the finals, all or nothing and you send Best for acematch? When you have Bisu, Fanta ? I don't think any coach will decide that way.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#356
from those two ?

Im fed up with zerg already so go go Classic

!
T H C makes ppl happy
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 30 2011 09:10 GMT
#357
There's the Hydralisk Den, yup
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 30 2011 09:12 GMT
#358
Yeah, it's the Protoss race's problem to figure out the way to beat Zerg, if they can't then it's their fault because Zergs are just doing what they do to win. Remember when Protoss was roflpwning Zerg with Zealot deathsquads?
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
July 30 2011 09:12 GMT
#359
On July 30 2011 18:02 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 17:57 Turbovolver wrote:
Hydras cop a lot of hate because they are flexible, they are kind of the go-to unit for zergs against protoss.


But why is everyone going "lol just build hydras and win". If it's not 3hatch cheese BS, then it's nothing Protoss haven't faced before. Did protoss over-tech, or have bad storms? Did zerg get up uncontested bases?

I am hardly some pro PvZ analyst but I'm sick of people pretending like "lol hydras" is really the extent of what is going on.


I'm no pvz expert either, but TBH, it seems best did just about everything right to hold that, and still lost anyway.

He had canons in time for the original (fakeish)bust, he had storm for the second bigger bust, he had zealot speed, he held the mutas pretty well. He killed soooo much of great's econ with dts and storm drops.

I think the only thing he could have done better was maybe not go for that first storm drop, since that ht might have been better in his nat to defend.

Yes I think that first storm drop made a big difference to Best's early defense, and his macro also seemed slack a couple of times. His zealot reinforcements were just inexplicably late once or twice, and not just because of probes. Besides that, at one point zerg definitely had too few drones to run 5 hatcheries let alone six, before Best's probe count had been damaged at all except what he cut to build cannons, or maybe he also cut to rush those gateways I don't know. Point is he clearly was too far ahead in economy for it not to count unless he did something awfully wrong. Protoss usually fair much better than that, with no such advantage. IMO.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 30 2011 09:13 GMT
#360
The only way that Protoss needs to beat zergs is to go 1 base plays. Forge expand is good but too predictable. It's like how zErgs need to switch between lurkers and mutas in zvt
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