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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#381
Poll: Recommend Final Set?

No (11)
 
73%

Yes (3)
 
20%

If you've got nothing else to do (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Set?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you've got nothing else to do

Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#382
lol hidra u trolled best for that
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
July 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#383
gg
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#384
gg. It's so bad it's good sets of games, especially ones that involve great.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#385
great gg's
that was ugly
brood war for life, brood war forever
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#386
that was a really really bad game by great.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#387
On July 30 2011 18:23 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:21 Xiphos wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:17 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:13 Xiphos wrote:
The only way that Protoss needs to beat zergs is to go 1 base plays. Forge expand is good but too predictable. It's like how zErgs need to switch between lurkers and mutas in zvt


Honestly that might work even worse for this. 1 base plays have traditionally been terrible vs 3 hatch hydra openings, and seem to transition into mid and lategames far worse than 3 hatch hydra seems to transition.

It's the psychological game that counts. If zerg assume that Protoss is going to forge expand, he can just make up some hard counter to it. But if Protoss decide to keep the Zerg on their feets by constantly changing up their plays, zerg would have much more trouble preparing.


Nay, progamers have gotten so good, that they fend off even 2 gates with 12 hatch, and they scout the toss before putting the third hatch at a third base anyways

12hatch is actually better against non-proxied 2gate, since it gives you creep to put sunkens on and faster larva
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#388
GG. The worthy players advanced.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#389
That game was lacking in finesse/grace, but I suppose war is meant to be ugly.

Anyway, thanks GTR and Nanashin for the streams, appreciate it
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#390
The two best players advanced. No complaints.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#391
I see why great is going to ACE now. :|

Looks like Sun isn't going to get another chance, sigh...

Anyway thanks Hyde for making the LR thread and nanashin for streaming as always.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#392
Thanks for streams nanashin & GTR!!

Glad that at least one Protoss advanced.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#393
On July 30 2011 18:17 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:13 Xiphos wrote:
The only way that Protoss needs to beat zergs is to go 1 base plays. Forge expand is good but too predictable. It's like how zErgs need to switch between lurkers and mutas in zvt


Honestly that might work even worse for this. 1 base plays have traditionally been terrible vs 3 hatch hydra openings, and seem to transition into mid and lategames far worse than 3 hatch hydra seems to transition.

1 base plays are also rather pointless on large maps, or maps without a small choke point to hold.

Though I think they're a valuable tool when maps permit.
My strategy is to fork people.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
July 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#394
On July 30 2011 18:25 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 18:23 Mortician wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:21 Xiphos wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:17 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On July 30 2011 18:13 Xiphos wrote:
The only way that Protoss needs to beat zergs is to go 1 base plays. Forge expand is good but too predictable. It's like how zErgs need to switch between lurkers and mutas in zvt


Honestly that might work even worse for this. 1 base plays have traditionally been terrible vs 3 hatch hydra openings, and seem to transition into mid and lategames far worse than 3 hatch hydra seems to transition.

It's the psychological game that counts. If zerg assume that Protoss is going to forge expand, he can just make up some hard counter to it. But if Protoss decide to keep the Zerg on their feets by constantly changing up their plays, zerg would have much more trouble preparing.


Nay, progamers have gotten so good, that they fend off even 2 gates with 12 hatch, and they scout the toss before putting the third hatch at a third base anyways

12hatch is actually better against non-proxied 2gate, since it gives you creep to put sunkens on and faster larva

This is true. The real possibility for catching zerg off balance is in 2 gating vs an overpool. Zerg's have hardly been 12 hatching at all lately.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#395
good

gg
T H C makes ppl happy
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 30 2011 09:30 GMT
#396
can anyone explain to me what happened to Great?

he was in MSL finals, then went 8-13. That is not good but certainly not the worst record and usually you wouldn't cut a Veteran and MSL finalist for that from the team. But still he didnt play for Khan anymore, despote their weak lineup. And his performance today was a shock.

Does anyone know if he has some problems outside of the game?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
July 30 2011 09:31 GMT
#397
Hahaha! Best gfto. I feel bad for SKT fans but whatever, it makes me happy to see another team's strong player suffer T_T. I'm sorry.
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
July 30 2011 09:33 GMT
#398
great... good luck in ACE.

by the way, congrats to Shy and Classic. Thanks to streamers for the streams.
Learn,live and love it.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 30 2011 09:33 GMT
#399
On July 30 2011 18:30 Fenrax wrote:
can anyone explain to me what happened to Great?

he was in MSL finals, then went 8-13. That is not good but certainly not the worst record and usually you wouldn't cut a Veteran and MSL finalist for that from the team. But still he didnt play for Khan anymore, despote their weak lineup. And his performance today was a shock.

Does anyone know if he has some problems outside of the game?

Ryo said earlier in the thread that he left the team house before the finals.
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 09:36:38
July 30 2011 09:35 GMT
#400
On July 30 2011 18:30 Fenrax wrote:
can anyone explain to me what happened to Great?

he was in MSL finals, then went 8-13. That is not good but certainly not the worst record and usually you wouldn't cut a Veteran and MSL finalist for that from the team. But still he didnt play for Khan anymore, despote their weak lineup. And his performance today was a shock.

Does anyone know if he has some problems outside of the game?

I have a feeling that he's been skimping out on practice recently because of going off to ACE soon... But that's just my guess. If he has personal issues, perhaps that's why he moved out of the KHAN house...? -Conspiracy theory-

On July 30 2011 18:31 Vasoline73 wrote:
Hahaha! Best gfto. I feel bad for SKT fans but whatever, it makes me happy to see another team's strong player suffer T_T. I'm sorry.

So many contradictions here!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
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