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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 07 2011 22:29 GMT
#321
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.
Remember Violet.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 07 2011 22:35 GMT
#322
Ahh yeah, requesting time off for this finals. 3rd one live I hope. && Finals aren't till the week after ;D
Flashuuu~~!! Kpop is a necessity for anything StarCraft!
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
June 07 2011 22:40 GMT
#323
On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.


Agreed. The worst part is that it's everywhere. Even most of the TL streamers play K-Pop during breaks between proleague matches, and I hate to complain because I appreciate their streaming and all, but holy fuck K-Pop is terrible and I wish they didn't play it. Gotta mute it and check back periodically to see if the commercial break is over every time.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
June 07 2011 22:40 GMT
#324
On June 08 2011 07:11 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:04 Holgerius wrote:
I can only recall 1 non-ZvZ Bo5 with Zero, the one vs Stork.

absolutely. and there is no doubt zero is a sick bo5 player. People keep sayin he wont be able to keep up with flash in a long series, well thats wrong. zero especially can. he has so many tricks up his sleeve and he especially said in interview he was gonna play to display great prowess and entertaining gameplay, so we can expect him to give a diverse performance.

And remember, flash already revealed his "secret" build in the match against hydra, so zero is the one with the trump cards still in his deck.


You're saying this like you knows what Flash is going to use in the Finals, like he doesn't have anything else besides what he used in the semi.

On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.


Haters gotta hate, trolls gotta troll.

ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 07 2011 22:47 GMT
#325
On June 08 2011 07:40 Tenhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:11 xarthaz wrote:
On June 08 2011 07:04 Holgerius wrote:
I can only recall 1 non-ZvZ Bo5 with Zero, the one vs Stork.

absolutely. and there is no doubt zero is a sick bo5 player. People keep sayin he wont be able to keep up with flash in a long series, well thats wrong. zero especially can. he has so many tricks up his sleeve and he especially said in interview he was gonna play to display great prowess and entertaining gameplay, so we can expect him to give a diverse performance.

And remember, flash already revealed his "secret" build in the match against hydra, so zero is the one with the trump cards still in his deck.


You're saying this like you knows what Flash is going to use in the Finals, like he doesn't have anything else besides what he used in the semi.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.


Haters gotta hate, trolls gotta troll.



Lovers gonna love.

Taeyeon <3
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 07 2011 22:55 GMT
#326
On June 08 2011 07:40 Tenhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:11 xarthaz wrote:
On June 08 2011 07:04 Holgerius wrote:
I can only recall 1 non-ZvZ Bo5 with Zero, the one vs Stork.

absolutely. and there is no doubt zero is a sick bo5 player. People keep sayin he wont be able to keep up with flash in a long series, well thats wrong. zero especially can. he has so many tricks up his sleeve and he especially said in interview he was gonna play to display great prowess and entertaining gameplay, so we can expect him to give a diverse performance.

And remember, flash already revealed his "secret" build in the match against hydra, so zero is the one with the trump cards still in his deck.


You're saying this like you knows what Flash is going to use in the Finals, like he doesn't have anything else besides what he used in the semi.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.


Haters gotta hate, trolls gotta troll.



It's not even trolling in the slightest, just honest. Hell, the Kpop thread has the disclaimer going into excruciating detail why it's awful.
Remember Violet.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 23:07:53
June 07 2011 23:07 GMT
#327
On June 08 2011 07:40 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.


Agreed. The worst part is that it's everywhere. Even most of the TL streamers play K-Pop during breaks between proleague matches, and I hate to complain because I appreciate their streaming and all, but holy fuck K-Pop is terrible and I wish they didn't play it. Gotta mute it and check back periodically to see if the commercial break is over every time.



Two flash fans saying kpop is terrible: Zero's victory is now all but ensured.

+ Show Spoiler +
actualy I'm not much of a kpop fan either
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
June 08 2011 00:02 GMT
#328
These finals are going to be SICK.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 08 2011 00:05 GMT
#329
MOAR HYPE
[image loading]

You know, its hard to find good ZerO non-fomos pics :<.
WriterXiao8~~
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
June 08 2011 03:28 GMT
#330
I dont usually watch bw but this should be really fucking awsome to watch
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
WaterTower
Profile Joined May 2011
France138 Posts
June 08 2011 03:54 GMT
#331
Im glad everyone here got the point. It is impossible to beat Flash at what he's good at.

Micro.. After watching almost every Flash game of the past year, it is clear that JD is the only person who can outmicro Flash in general. I just haven't seen it be done by anyone else.

Macro.. Once again, JD is the only person who generally outmacros Flash. Zerg usually needs a base more than terran to be on even territory, but Jaedong regularly gets 2 or 3 more than Flash.

Starsense.. Flash is #1 in the world. This is the factor that allowed him to have a slight winning percentage against Jaedong. He predicts things perfectly in many occasions. The Hana MSL game 1 is the perfect example. Jaedong tried to fool Flash and went straight into heavy tier 3 macro on 4 bases. It almost worked, until Flash hit at just the perfect moment, Even a minute more would have seen Jaedong gain an insurmountable advantage with swarm and ultraling while Flash only had midgame tech.

Tricks.. Hopefully, Zero can capitalize on this. He shouldnt think of outmicroing Flash, but maybe Zero can do something different enough to catch Flash off guard.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
June 08 2011 03:58 GMT
#332
I think the skill difference between Flash and Zero is quite slim and I think that it is anybody's game. With ZerO's current performance, he really has a strong chance of taking this. This is no discount to Flash's unbelievable skill.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#333
On June 08 2011 12:54 WaterTower wrote:
Im glad everyone here got the point. It is impossible to beat Flash at what he's good at.

Micro.. After watching almost every Flash game of the past year, it is clear that JD is the only person who can outmicro Flash in general. I just haven't seen it be done by anyone else.

Macro.. Once again, JD is the only person who generally outmacros Flash. Zerg usually needs a base more than terran to be on even territory, but Jaedong regularly gets 2 or 3 more than Flash.

Starsense.. Flash is #1 in the world. This is the factor that allowed him to have a slight winning percentage against Jaedong. He predicts things perfectly in many occasions. The Hana MSL game 1 is the perfect example. Jaedong tried to fool Flash and went straight into heavy tier 3 macro on 4 bases. It almost worked, until Flash hit at just the perfect moment, Even a minute more would have seen Jaedong gain an insurmountable advantage with swarm and ultraling while Flash only had midgame tech.

Tricks.. Hopefully, Zero can capitalize on this. He shouldnt think of outmicroing Flash, but maybe Zero can do something different enough to catch Flash off guard.


What are you talking about? Jaedong doesn't have better macro than Flash. The times I remember him getting 2 or 3 more bases were on Match Point after their first MSL finals when he got rolled, and in I believe the MSL finals when he got 3-0ed.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
June 08 2011 07:42 GMT
#334
Hype! im cheering for flash, But deep down i actually also want Zero to take this. don't know what to do D: Awesame banner etc tho <3
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
theslayer922
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada304 Posts
June 08 2011 08:59 GMT
#335
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2011 07:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


He can say that because Kpop is awful. Just awful.



kpop sucks, this final will rock.
In the Donger I Trust
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
June 08 2011 09:09 GMT
#336
Zero all the way
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
June 08 2011 09:22 GMT
#337
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


Has it been announced who's performing?
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
June 08 2011 09:29 GMT
#338
Flash has just too much of an arsenal in terms of variation, strength, mind games, pushes, and builds that zero won't be able to prepare for all. I mean zero has good late game management, but come on, jaedong who I see is the only player at par with Flash with all points (early, mid, late) of the game failed to stop Flash's antics in 3 finals (WCG, MSL, OSL)... I mean we're talking about a very innovative player in terms of builds (come on 3 14ccs?, +1 armor goliath, 5 rax 3rd denial), big enough balls to do them, and Flash has the mechanical prowess as well as decision making to have damage mitigation in case anything happens... Only time is against Flash due to his chronic injury...

In short... Flash has got this..
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 09:34:58
June 08 2011 09:34 GMT
#339
nvm.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 10:29:40
June 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#340
On June 08 2011 18:22 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 07:22 Tenhou wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:35 soujiro_ wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:34 Katsuge wrote:
On June 07 2011 11:11 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm telling y'all; it's gonna be closer than you think.

it better be; boycotting work for this x)


thank god the finals are on a saturday!!!

its going to be a little early but thats ok, ill just skip the kpop bands =)


How can you say that?

STAY UP FOR THE KPOP THEN WATCHES THE FINAL AFTER KPOP


Has it been announced who's performing?


Checking the MBC Game twitter and random googling gave nothing. It's either a really bad group and by not revealing it they'll drop numbers of curious people (because everyone only comes for the kpop and the games are a bonus ) or they'll tell us in the next two days .

It's going to be a group with more than one song so Sistar19 is out. Probably Secret with their two new songs or A PINK which is what I'm hoping and we finally get to see them perform the whole of Wish List live.

Edit: Flash fighting!!! 107 Turrets gogogo!
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