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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
On May 25 2011 00:59 _Quasar_ wrote: Flash can beat Hydra, but what he can not beat, it's Queen yeah,the thing that interests me the most is how will Flash efficiently handle queens when the mech switch happens. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Caladbolg
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blue001
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Emon_
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 25 2011 01:45 blue001 wrote: Queens are like arbiters. Terran mech vs Protoss you add in science vessels. I believe this is what mech TvZ will need too. The Science Vessel. lol what terran mech has vessels, and what, they help? lol. and wraith... i mean, queens can like... run away from them. lol. and then hang above 3+ packs of hydras. oh hi wraiths. :D | ||
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blue001
106 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:32 _Quasar_ wrote: lol what terran mech has vessels, and what, they help? lol. and wraith... i mean, queens can like... run away from them. lol. and then hang above 3+ packs of hydras. oh hi wraiths. :D Yea you ever heard of EMP? They aren't like defilers so it's not like you can consume energy. 1 EMP on a pack of queens and they won't be casting for a LONG time. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:34 blue001 wrote: Yea you ever heard of EMP? They aren't like defilers so it's not like you can consume energy. 1 EMP on a pack of queens and they won't be casting for a LONG time. terrans use EMP always when they see queens! But that doesn't help! Zergs split queens or cast broodling BEFORE they get emp'd. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Example: Queens counter turtle late-mech. | ||
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
And I hate Hydra. There you go. | ||
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On May 25 2011 04:48 Tomken wrote: La Mancha 2x free win Flash! Which raises the question, which map did Hydra thumb down? Seems very odd that he wouldn't thumb down La Mancha as all the other maps are either balanced (yes, Dante's Peak SE is balanced, in standard leagues) or zerg favoured (lol Monte Cristo). Guess he feels like he has something to prove? | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
GO FLASH! (and Zero XD) | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On May 25 2011 04:26 dukethegold wrote: I am actually intrigued by the prospect of a Flash v.s. Jaedong final in which Jaedong is not the underdog. And I hate Hydra. There you go. Jaedong was not the underdog for the Hana Daetoo MSL finals and we all know how that turned out. TT | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On May 25 2011 05:16 kuroshiroi wrote: Which raises the question, which map did Hydra thumb down? Seems very odd that he wouldn't thumb down La Mancha as all the other maps are either balanced (yes, Dante's Peak SE is balanced, in standard leagues) or zerg favoured (lol Monte Cristo). Guess he feels like he has something to prove? I'm almost certain he thumbed down Monte Cristo. I'm not sure how you think Monte Cristo is zerg favored. It reminds me of Polaris Rhapsody. | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On May 25 2011 06:37 DarkMatter_ wrote: I'm almost certain he thumbed down Monte Cristo. I'm not sure how you think Monte Cristo is zerg favored. It reminds me of Polaris Rhapsody. Mostly because it's 5-1 so far and because the games have all been fairly easy for zerg, either late game rapes or early game ling disasters. Maybe the Ts just haven't been very good or been unlucky but I don't see any of the obvious turtle tactics working very well on Monte Cristo. For instance, it's harder for T to defend their nat and third at the same time on Monte Cristo than it was on Polaris while zerg can get to 3 gas + Hive on Monte Cristo without any significant difficulties. There are also no min-only expansions on Monte Cristo while Polaris Rhapsody has 4 of those. At worst, it looks balanced. But I'm probably wrong, since Hydra did most likely thumb it down. Flash will show us the truth about it anyway; If there's a way to efficiently turtle on it or kill off a zerg with a pre-defiler push, he will find it. | ||
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