• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:46
CEST 21:46
KST 04:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202534Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 666 users

[MSL] Group Selection Ceremony - Page 59

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 63 Next
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 17:00:09
April 09 2011 16:58 GMT
#1161
On April 09 2011 08:56 darmousseh wrote:
OMG GROUP D

Seriously, how the heck does this happen?

This makes me a really sad panda.

Hydra and Great are trolling it up with their moment in the limelight. MBC execs are probably kicking themselves, although I think going into the bracket they have more control.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
April 09 2011 17:09 GMT
#1162
JD and Sea to advance for ultimate fanboy annihilation? Yes please.
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
April 09 2011 17:18 GMT
#1163
On April 10 2011 01:58 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 08:56 darmousseh wrote:
OMG GROUP D

Seriously, how the heck does this happen?

This makes me a really sad panda.

Hydra and Great are trolling it up with their moment in the limelight. MBC execs are probably kicking themselves, although I think going into the bracket they have more control.

So lame, it's almost like having the semifinals in one group.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:49:09
April 09 2011 17:23 GMT
#1164
Sea is ultimate unlucky one. He have to put an end to this shit now. GO SEA!
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7889 Posts
April 09 2011 18:05 GMT
#1165
Jaedong Sea Flash Bisu.

Are you fucking kidding me?

That's utter bullshit, both for Sea who has 0 chance, and for one of the three remaining players, who all really deserve to go far into the tournament.

That's really really bad news.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
April 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#1166
On April 09 2011 20:43 Wohmfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 10:59 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 09 2011 10:19 hmmm... wrote:
On April 09 2011 09:09 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


MSL introduced the reseeding system at ro8, making Flash vs Jaedong for like three straight finals so they can "up" the viewership. OSL doesn't have such a thing. Yet, OSL is far more prestigious than MSL. Proposing to "fix" the group is just ridiculous-- it motivates greed and discredit any shenanigans that can be pulled in the selection ceremony to incite drama. Not to even mention that the top 8 seeds are immovable. There are also two players exiting from each group. If anything, the system gives plenty of leeway to ensure the qualified players move on.


i always wondered by why has the OSL been more prestigious?

this time around, many ppl at fomos were talking about how MSL is now the best league given that it got such a good sponsor and OSL failed to get a sponsor and hence is stalling time with some unorthodox mystarleague format


MSL came quite a bit later than OSL. OSL is such an established league that the name Starleague became synonymous with individual leagues, even though it's not really true (OGN Starleague vs MBC Starcraft League).

OGN is also more financially stable than MBC (official stream, no virtual stage bullshit, etc) and has historically pulled in the better sponsors. How awesome was Korean Air S2's venue?


Didn't the OSL originally have a larger prize pool than MSL as well?


yup, I believe so.
manymunkies
Profile Joined April 2009
United States184 Posts
April 09 2011 22:02 GMT
#1167
Holy, FBH looks so dark in that picture
Be water my friend
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
April 10 2011 00:30 GMT
#1168
On April 10 2011 03:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Jaedong Sea Flash Bisu.

Are you fucking kidding me?

That's utter bullshit, both for Sea who has 0 chance, and for one of the three remaining players, who all really deserve to go far into the tournament.

That's really really bad news.

MBC has to be kicking themselves for making these group selection rules.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
April 10 2011 02:18 GMT
#1169
dam hydra, hope he gets eliminated in the first round
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 10 2011 02:45 GMT
#1170
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.

It's just bad for the tournament. If it were possible for Bisu, Flash AND Jaedong to all advance if they played amazingly enough, I wouldn't say this. The burden would be on them to prove their merit. But it isn't possible; one of them must go and it's a pity for that to happen in the Ro32. Whichever S-class is taken out, we get to watch fewer of their games this MSL. I'm sure Hydra isn't actually trying to sabotage the MSL, but if he were, he couldn't have done a better job.

I don't blame a player for eliminating someone (Hydra > Jaedong last MSL; Ssak/Classic > Flash) --- that's them doing their jobs. But sucker-punching the whole viewership is a different matter.
May the BeSt man win.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 03:25:14
April 10 2011 03:24 GMT
#1171
On April 09 2011 03:10 kwkwookw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 14:11 hmmm... wrote:
On April 08 2011 05:59 gngfn wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:41 hmmm... wrote:
this guy is a fucking joke. knows he's not good enough for jd/flash/bisu so instead, abuses his seeding power to have them kill each other. the guys at fomos are dissing hydra so much right now for abusing his seed powers to ruin a tournament.

Requesting netizen reactions. If they're funny, anyway.


[image loading]

lol there's 721 comments in fomos just for a group selection ceremony haha

신동원 십만안티양성성공

hydra 100,000 anti-fan creation: success

엠비씨피디랑 염보성 둘이 쐬주한잔????ㅋㅋㅋ

mbcgame PD (program director) and Sea should drink soju together??? kekeke

스폰서 좋은거 달아뒀는대 리그 파괴해버렸으요

msl received a good sponsor but now the msl's done for.

아무리 우승자 준우승자의 권한이라지만 이건 넘하는거 아닌가.. 택리쌍 경기를 보고싶다는 핑계로 지들은 쉬운조만들고 택리쌍염 중 둘 떨어뜨리고 또 쉽게 가겠다는 생각이구만. 보통 우승자들은 자기가 속한조를 죽음의조로 만들어서 인정한거. 예전에 김택용 이영호 최연성 이윤열 조도 ㅎㄷㄷ 했는데 그건 김택용이 우승인가 준우승하고 글케 만든거. 당시 최연성 김택용 올라감. 그순간은 재밌지. 그 후에 16강부터 최악대진 만들어진다 두고봐라 분명 뽀록4강 또나온다

even if it's champion/runner-up seed rights, isn't this too much...using the fact that fans want to see a bisu/jd/flash match as an excuse, they just made easy groups for themselves while planning to make an easier road for themselves as bisu/jd/flash take each other out. usually champions use their seed rights to make their own group as the death group; before, bisu flash iloveoov nada group was made when bisu won/or was runner up; back then, bisu/iloveoov went up and that was very fun to watch. mark my word, we're going to see another laughable semifinals (aka one with no notable players)

참치 ㅅㅂ

tuna fuck.
(tuna is hydra's nickname b/c his krn name "dong won" is a tuna can company in korea)

여기서 열폭하는 애들 진짜 무섭다.. 와 싸이코패스가 저런건가.. 왜 지들이 저래 ㅋㅋㅋ 대개 신기하네

man the angry trolls in this thread are really scary...wow i wonder if psychopaths are like this...why are they themselves so worked up kekeke very interesting

재미도 적당히지 한번 재미있을려고 리그를 망치냐 참치 ㅄ아

it's okay to try to make the group selection ceremony fun but just b/c ur trying to make it fun, are you trying to ruin the entire tournament you stupid tuna

조가완성돼자 정명훈 - ^^ 풋! 송병구 - ^^풋!

as the selection finished Fantasy - ^^ hehe Stork - ^^ hehe

조지명식이 흥하고 결승은 망하고 ㄱㄱ

group selection ceremony - huge success; msl final - fail.

이게다 이제동 때문이다. 이제동 니가 어쩌다 신동원같은 듣보한테 발려서 이따위 조를 만든거냐. 솔까 D조에서 이영호 빼고는 누가 올라가도 이상하지 않다.

this is all b/c of jaedong. jaedong why did you lose to a noob like hydra and cause this? beyond flash, it won't be a surprise to see any other of the 3 remaining players advance.

어차피 김택용 이제동 진출한다 잘봐라 하늘이 내린 기회다 계속 이영호가 스타판 끌고 가는것도 좀 그렇다

bisu and jd will advance anyways. look carefully, this is a opportunity provided by the heavens. having flash continuing to dominate sc is not good for the scene.

진짜 차명환 신동원 옹호 하는 것들은 각성해라... 저번msl관중 보고도 그런소리가 나오냐? 제일 재미없다는 저저전 에다가 아오 ㅡㅡ d조 체육관에서 열어 작년결승보다 관중2배는 더올거다 ㅡㅡ

seriously those supporting tuna and great should wake up. can you really support them after seeing the pitifully low attendance last msl final? if group D is played in a stadium, there'd be at least 2 times more attendees than that of the last msl final ㅡㅡ

이상형 월드컵에서 신봉선이랑 정주리가 작당해서 '김태희 송혜교 이영애 신민아' 한 조에 몰아넣는 것만큼이나 어이없는 작태야.

this is no different than selecting 'kim tae hee, song hye gyo, lee young eh, shin min ah' in the same group for the most beautiful worldcup
(those are famous very beautiful krn celebrities)

신동원 잘했다. 이런저런 눈치보면서 시드권자 권한 행사못하는 ㅄ레기들이 너무많았다. 이정도되야지 스타판이 흥하지.

good job hydra. there are too many people who are too conscious of what others will think about them and hence are too afraid to abuse their seed rights. having at least this amount of controversy is what's needed to keep the starcraft scene going.

송핑구에게도 관심을..............택리쌍빠들아 핑구한테도 관심좀..

guys...give some love and attention to stork too.....

솔직히 참치랑 몽환이는 포스가 없다. 그래서 그런지 걔들 옆자리는 쉽게 채워졌지 않았나. 그러니까 걔들도 아는거지, 지네가 또 한번 높은 자리에 올라가려면 택뱅리쌍은 없어야 한다고. 그 와중에 뱅은 진짜 특혜 입은거다. 단순히 몽환이 옆자리라서? 아니다. 뱅조가 E조인데 E조를 죽음의 조로 만들어봐라. 그럼 16강에서 피해를 입는게 누구일까? 바로 참치새끼다. 그러니 8강 이후에서나 볼 폭군네 조를 타겟으로 삼은거다.

honestly, tuna and great have no force (aura). that's why the spots next to them were filled so easily. that's why those two know themselves too, that in order to make it high in the tournament again, TBLS needs to be taken care of. Stork got lucky. Stork is in group E, but you know why TLS wasn't put in group E to make it into a death group? B/C the one who will face group E in the RO16 is the fucking tuna. that's why he deliberately chose group D which tuna won't have to face until after RO8.

진리. 조지명식이 흥하면 리그가 망합니다.

the truth. a successful group selection means a failed tournament.

이영호 우승자고 이제동 준우승때 시드 기억나냐. 꿀조 찾는건 둘째치고 누가오든 상관없다 시드권 기부하겠다 이러면서 우승, 준우승 포스 철철넘치고 모두 리쌍 피하고싶어했지. 근데 이번 우승자 준우승자는 리쌍조 만든게 잘못이 아니라 나름 우승,준우승자인데 포스유지를 너무못했다.

you guys remember when flash was the champion and jaedong was the runner up? they didn't care who was put into their group so they just donated their seed rights while unleashing their scary winner/runner-up aura and everyone wanted to avoid their group. the thing that this time's champion and runner-up did wrong is NOT that they made a TaekLeeSsang group of death, but that they're acknowledging their weakness and failing to uphold any sort of respect/aura.

MSL의 전통....조지명식은 흥하지만 결승으로 갈수록 망....

oh the Tradition of the MSL....high ratings for group selection -> low ratings for final

진짜.. 리쌍 너네 이번에 우승 꼭 해라. 이게 무슨 일이냐.. 쩝;

really...LeeSsang you guys must win this time. what kind of situation is this....

어떻게 이영호랑 이제동을 시작부터 한조에 붙이냐ㅠ MSL절대공식 또 나오네 32강>>16강>>>>>넘사벽>>>>>>>>>>>>>8강>>>>준결>>>>>>>>>결승

how could u put flash and jaedong in the same group TT. i guess the ever-so-true Equation for MSL is put on show yet again. ro32 >>ro16>>>>>HUGE ASS WALL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ro8>>>>>>semis>>>>>>>>>>>>>final

에라이,,,스폰은 니 지명한거 보고 울고 있겠다. ㅁㅊㅇ!!! 그따우로 조를 만들면 스폰은 무슨 의미로 하냐. 팬들이 관심을 오래 가도록 조를 만들어줘야 스폰도 흥이 나지. 고기도 먹어 본 넘이 먹는다고 우승도 해 본 선수가 해야지. 우승 한번 하고 나니 뵈는게 없나 보구나. 스펀하자고 한 ABC마트 담당은 울고 있것다.

god dammit,,, MSL's sponsor is probably looking at the selection and crying. you fucking retard!! if you're gonna make a group like that, what incentive is there for sponsoring? creating groups that maintain and enhance public interest is what will attract sponsors and allow sponsors to realize the worth is sponsoring a gaming tournament. just b/c you won one msl tournament, you think you're so fly that you can do whatever you want without thinking about the consequences of your actions? i bet the guy who suggesting to sponsor msl at ABC is crying right now.

긴장감을 느끼라고 택리쌍을 한곳에 몰아넣는걸 보니, 지난대회 우승자 준우승자 신동원 차명환은 자신들이 3류임을 인정하였군. 자신들은 전혀 긴장감을 주지 못한다는것을 아는 듯....

since they put TaekLeeSsang in one group, last tournament's champion/runner, hydra and great, are only acknowledging that they themselves are 3rd rate. they know they don't have what it takes to offer the electricity/nervous/excitement.

스타팬들을 분노하게 하는구나. 월드컵 32강에서 한조에다 브라질, 스페인, 독일, 네덜란드 모아놓으면 팬들이 좋아하겠냐? 이런 무개념들 같으니라구. 스타판을 말아먹으려고 작정했구나

starcraft fans are becoming enraged. you think if you put brazil, spain, germany, netherlands in one group in the world cup, fans would like that? such lack of hindsight. you two are totally planning to dry up the starcraft scene huh.

진짜 이거 볼 차명환이나 신동원도 불쌍하다 악플도 이런 킹오브트레쉬가 있나..

i feel bad for great or hydra who will read these comment. has there ever been someone getting so much trash....

내가 엠겜피디엿으면 다마신 깡소주병으로 신동원 차명환 뒷통수후려갈겻을듯 ㅉㅉㅉㅉㅉ 이쓰레기들은 한시즌도아니고 두시즌을 연달아 조져

if i was the mbcgame PD, i would aim empty soju bottles at the back of their heads. tsk tsk tsk tsk you trashes, not just one season but TWO seasons you guys are trying to ruin

신동원 차명환 진짜 천하의쓰레기들이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아니 그렇게 택리쌍이 아니꼬우면 정정당당하게 너희가 싸워서 너희가 이기면될꺼아니냐? ㅋㅋㅋ 그래놓고 지놈들은 또 저번시즌처럼 천운대진만 받아쳐먹을생각하네 ㅋㅋ 너흰 뭘해도 안될놈들이다 알겟냐? 프로게이머 다때려치우고 당장꺼져라

lol hydra and great are truly the greatest trash ever kekekeke i mean if you guys seriously feel uncomfortable towards TaekLeeSsang, why don't you guys face them and just beat them? kekeke instead these guys are only thinking about getting an easy tournament drawing like last season keke you two will never amount to anything, you know that? quit progaming and get the fuck out.

하여튼 포모스는 진짜 쓰레기 천국이네

man fomos is truly a trash heaven. (LOLLLL)

참치 차이코패스새키야 나가 죽어라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 살가치조차 없는 인간쓰레기새키들 니들 부모들은 니들같은새키 낳고 미역국은 쳐 먹었었냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

tuna and chah-ycopath (great's krn nickname) go out and die kekekekkeke you guys have no right to live. i can't believe you parents could eat seaweed soup after giving birth to trash like you two. kekekekkekekekekke (fyi, seaweed soup is something ppl eat on their birthdays in korea)

정말 쳐돌았다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 미친놈들ㅋㅋㅋ

wow this is so fucking crazy. kekekekkee fucking retards kekekkekek


man Fomos is REALLY tearing it up. haha


Thx for the translation, friend.

Korean Netizens have pretty poor taste. The comments are quite inconsiderate.

While bad for the viewers, it is undeniable that the seed rights exist to provide an advantage to the reigning champion/runner up, in hope of propping the big names to greater height.

Historically, the seed users usually create a comfortable group for themselves, and then use their remaining power to prevent teamkills or answer the requests of those who beg really hard. Rarely, some use seed power to create a group of death around themselves in order to prove a point.

I think this is actually the first time a champion/runner up actually used the seed power to deliberately create a group of death in order to eliminate competition. Of course, Hydra and Great did not break any rules, nor abused them.
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
April 10 2011 03:38 GMT
#1172
On April 10 2011 12:24 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:10 kwkwookw wrote:
On April 08 2011 14:11 hmmm... wrote:
On April 08 2011 05:59 gngfn wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:41 hmmm... wrote:
this guy is a fucking joke. knows he's not good enough for jd/flash/bisu so instead, abuses his seeding power to have them kill each other. the guys at fomos are dissing hydra so much right now for abusing his seed powers to ruin a tournament.

Requesting netizen reactions. If they're funny, anyway.


[image loading]

lol there's 721 comments in fomos just for a group selection ceremony haha

신동원 십만안티양성성공

hydra 100,000 anti-fan creation: success

엠비씨피디랑 염보성 둘이 쐬주한잔????ㅋㅋㅋ

mbcgame PD (program director) and Sea should drink soju together??? kekeke

스폰서 좋은거 달아뒀는대 리그 파괴해버렸으요

msl received a good sponsor but now the msl's done for.

아무리 우승자 준우승자의 권한이라지만 이건 넘하는거 아닌가.. 택리쌍 경기를 보고싶다는 핑계로 지들은 쉬운조만들고 택리쌍염 중 둘 떨어뜨리고 또 쉽게 가겠다는 생각이구만. 보통 우승자들은 자기가 속한조를 죽음의조로 만들어서 인정한거. 예전에 김택용 이영호 최연성 이윤열 조도 ㅎㄷㄷ 했는데 그건 김택용이 우승인가 준우승하고 글케 만든거. 당시 최연성 김택용 올라감. 그순간은 재밌지. 그 후에 16강부터 최악대진 만들어진다 두고봐라 분명 뽀록4강 또나온다

even if it's champion/runner-up seed rights, isn't this too much...using the fact that fans want to see a bisu/jd/flash match as an excuse, they just made easy groups for themselves while planning to make an easier road for themselves as bisu/jd/flash take each other out. usually champions use their seed rights to make their own group as the death group; before, bisu flash iloveoov nada group was made when bisu won/or was runner up; back then, bisu/iloveoov went up and that was very fun to watch. mark my word, we're going to see another laughable semifinals (aka one with no notable players)

참치 ㅅㅂ

tuna fuck.
(tuna is hydra's nickname b/c his krn name "dong won" is a tuna can company in korea)

여기서 열폭하는 애들 진짜 무섭다.. 와 싸이코패스가 저런건가.. 왜 지들이 저래 ㅋㅋㅋ 대개 신기하네

man the angry trolls in this thread are really scary...wow i wonder if psychopaths are like this...why are they themselves so worked up kekeke very interesting

재미도 적당히지 한번 재미있을려고 리그를 망치냐 참치 ㅄ아

it's okay to try to make the group selection ceremony fun but just b/c ur trying to make it fun, are you trying to ruin the entire tournament you stupid tuna

조가완성돼자 정명훈 - ^^ 풋! 송병구 - ^^풋!

as the selection finished Fantasy - ^^ hehe Stork - ^^ hehe

조지명식이 흥하고 결승은 망하고 ㄱㄱ

group selection ceremony - huge success; msl final - fail.

이게다 이제동 때문이다. 이제동 니가 어쩌다 신동원같은 듣보한테 발려서 이따위 조를 만든거냐. 솔까 D조에서 이영호 빼고는 누가 올라가도 이상하지 않다.

this is all b/c of jaedong. jaedong why did you lose to a noob like hydra and cause this? beyond flash, it won't be a surprise to see any other of the 3 remaining players advance.

어차피 김택용 이제동 진출한다 잘봐라 하늘이 내린 기회다 계속 이영호가 스타판 끌고 가는것도 좀 그렇다

bisu and jd will advance anyways. look carefully, this is a opportunity provided by the heavens. having flash continuing to dominate sc is not good for the scene.

진짜 차명환 신동원 옹호 하는 것들은 각성해라... 저번msl관중 보고도 그런소리가 나오냐? 제일 재미없다는 저저전 에다가 아오 ㅡㅡ d조 체육관에서 열어 작년결승보다 관중2배는 더올거다 ㅡㅡ

seriously those supporting tuna and great should wake up. can you really support them after seeing the pitifully low attendance last msl final? if group D is played in a stadium, there'd be at least 2 times more attendees than that of the last msl final ㅡㅡ

이상형 월드컵에서 신봉선이랑 정주리가 작당해서 '김태희 송혜교 이영애 신민아' 한 조에 몰아넣는 것만큼이나 어이없는 작태야.

this is no different than selecting 'kim tae hee, song hye gyo, lee young eh, shin min ah' in the same group for the most beautiful worldcup
(those are famous very beautiful krn celebrities)

신동원 잘했다. 이런저런 눈치보면서 시드권자 권한 행사못하는 ㅄ레기들이 너무많았다. 이정도되야지 스타판이 흥하지.

good job hydra. there are too many people who are too conscious of what others will think about them and hence are too afraid to abuse their seed rights. having at least this amount of controversy is what's needed to keep the starcraft scene going.

송핑구에게도 관심을..............택리쌍빠들아 핑구한테도 관심좀..

guys...give some love and attention to stork too.....

솔직히 참치랑 몽환이는 포스가 없다. 그래서 그런지 걔들 옆자리는 쉽게 채워졌지 않았나. 그러니까 걔들도 아는거지, 지네가 또 한번 높은 자리에 올라가려면 택뱅리쌍은 없어야 한다고. 그 와중에 뱅은 진짜 특혜 입은거다. 단순히 몽환이 옆자리라서? 아니다. 뱅조가 E조인데 E조를 죽음의 조로 만들어봐라. 그럼 16강에서 피해를 입는게 누구일까? 바로 참치새끼다. 그러니 8강 이후에서나 볼 폭군네 조를 타겟으로 삼은거다.

honestly, tuna and great have no force (aura). that's why the spots next to them were filled so easily. that's why those two know themselves too, that in order to make it high in the tournament again, TBLS needs to be taken care of. Stork got lucky. Stork is in group E, but you know why TLS wasn't put in group E to make it into a death group? B/C the one who will face group E in the RO16 is the fucking tuna. that's why he deliberately chose group D which tuna won't have to face until after RO8.

진리. 조지명식이 흥하면 리그가 망합니다.

the truth. a successful group selection means a failed tournament.

이영호 우승자고 이제동 준우승때 시드 기억나냐. 꿀조 찾는건 둘째치고 누가오든 상관없다 시드권 기부하겠다 이러면서 우승, 준우승 포스 철철넘치고 모두 리쌍 피하고싶어했지. 근데 이번 우승자 준우승자는 리쌍조 만든게 잘못이 아니라 나름 우승,준우승자인데 포스유지를 너무못했다.

you guys remember when flash was the champion and jaedong was the runner up? they didn't care who was put into their group so they just donated their seed rights while unleashing their scary winner/runner-up aura and everyone wanted to avoid their group. the thing that this time's champion and runner-up did wrong is NOT that they made a TaekLeeSsang group of death, but that they're acknowledging their weakness and failing to uphold any sort of respect/aura.

MSL의 전통....조지명식은 흥하지만 결승으로 갈수록 망....

oh the Tradition of the MSL....high ratings for group selection -> low ratings for final

진짜.. 리쌍 너네 이번에 우승 꼭 해라. 이게 무슨 일이냐.. 쩝;

really...LeeSsang you guys must win this time. what kind of situation is this....

어떻게 이영호랑 이제동을 시작부터 한조에 붙이냐ㅠ MSL절대공식 또 나오네 32강>>16강>>>>>넘사벽>>>>>>>>>>>>>8강>>>>준결>>>>>>>>>결승

how could u put flash and jaedong in the same group TT. i guess the ever-so-true Equation for MSL is put on show yet again. ro32 >>ro16>>>>>HUGE ASS WALL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ro8>>>>>>semis>>>>>>>>>>>>>final

에라이,,,스폰은 니 지명한거 보고 울고 있겠다. ㅁㅊㅇ!!! 그따우로 조를 만들면 스폰은 무슨 의미로 하냐. 팬들이 관심을 오래 가도록 조를 만들어줘야 스폰도 흥이 나지. 고기도 먹어 본 넘이 먹는다고 우승도 해 본 선수가 해야지. 우승 한번 하고 나니 뵈는게 없나 보구나. 스펀하자고 한 ABC마트 담당은 울고 있것다.

god dammit,,, MSL's sponsor is probably looking at the selection and crying. you fucking retard!! if you're gonna make a group like that, what incentive is there for sponsoring? creating groups that maintain and enhance public interest is what will attract sponsors and allow sponsors to realize the worth is sponsoring a gaming tournament. just b/c you won one msl tournament, you think you're so fly that you can do whatever you want without thinking about the consequences of your actions? i bet the guy who suggesting to sponsor msl at ABC is crying right now.

긴장감을 느끼라고 택리쌍을 한곳에 몰아넣는걸 보니, 지난대회 우승자 준우승자 신동원 차명환은 자신들이 3류임을 인정하였군. 자신들은 전혀 긴장감을 주지 못한다는것을 아는 듯....

since they put TaekLeeSsang in one group, last tournament's champion/runner, hydra and great, are only acknowledging that they themselves are 3rd rate. they know they don't have what it takes to offer the electricity/nervous/excitement.

스타팬들을 분노하게 하는구나. 월드컵 32강에서 한조에다 브라질, 스페인, 독일, 네덜란드 모아놓으면 팬들이 좋아하겠냐? 이런 무개념들 같으니라구. 스타판을 말아먹으려고 작정했구나

starcraft fans are becoming enraged. you think if you put brazil, spain, germany, netherlands in one group in the world cup, fans would like that? such lack of hindsight. you two are totally planning to dry up the starcraft scene huh.

진짜 이거 볼 차명환이나 신동원도 불쌍하다 악플도 이런 킹오브트레쉬가 있나..

i feel bad for great or hydra who will read these comment. has there ever been someone getting so much trash....

내가 엠겜피디엿으면 다마신 깡소주병으로 신동원 차명환 뒷통수후려갈겻을듯 ㅉㅉㅉㅉㅉ 이쓰레기들은 한시즌도아니고 두시즌을 연달아 조져

if i was the mbcgame PD, i would aim empty soju bottles at the back of their heads. tsk tsk tsk tsk you trashes, not just one season but TWO seasons you guys are trying to ruin

신동원 차명환 진짜 천하의쓰레기들이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아니 그렇게 택리쌍이 아니꼬우면 정정당당하게 너희가 싸워서 너희가 이기면될꺼아니냐? ㅋㅋㅋ 그래놓고 지놈들은 또 저번시즌처럼 천운대진만 받아쳐먹을생각하네 ㅋㅋ 너흰 뭘해도 안될놈들이다 알겟냐? 프로게이머 다때려치우고 당장꺼져라

lol hydra and great are truly the greatest trash ever kekekeke i mean if you guys seriously feel uncomfortable towards TaekLeeSsang, why don't you guys face them and just beat them? kekeke instead these guys are only thinking about getting an easy tournament drawing like last season keke you two will never amount to anything, you know that? quit progaming and get the fuck out.

하여튼 포모스는 진짜 쓰레기 천국이네

man fomos is truly a trash heaven. (LOLLLL)

참치 차이코패스새키야 나가 죽어라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 살가치조차 없는 인간쓰레기새키들 니들 부모들은 니들같은새키 낳고 미역국은 쳐 먹었었냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

tuna and chah-ycopath (great's krn nickname) go out and die kekekekkeke you guys have no right to live. i can't believe you parents could eat seaweed soup after giving birth to trash like you two. kekekekkekekekekke (fyi, seaweed soup is something ppl eat on their birthdays in korea)

정말 쳐돌았다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 미친놈들ㅋㅋㅋ

wow this is so fucking crazy. kekekekkee fucking retards kekekkekek


man Fomos is REALLY tearing it up. haha


Thx for the translation, friend.

Korean Netizens have pretty poor taste. The comments are quite inconsiderate.

While bad for the viewers, it is undeniable that the seed rights exist to provide an advantage to the reigning champion/runner up, in hope of propping the big names to greater height.

Historically, the seed users usually create a comfortable group for themselves, and then use their remaining power to prevent teamkills or answer the requests of those who beg really hard. Rarely, some use seed power to create a group of death around themselves in order to prove a point.

I think this is actually the first time a champion/runner up actually used the seed power to deliberately create a group of death in order to eliminate competition. Of course, Hydra and Great did not break any rules, nor abused them.


Let's put it this way, if Hydra goes 0-2, we'll all know it's karma.
What's a quote anyway?
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#1173
On April 10 2011 09:30 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Jaedong Sea Flash Bisu.

Are you fucking kidding me?

That's utter bullshit, both for Sea who has 0 chance, and for one of the three remaining players, who all really deserve to go far into the tournament.

That's really really bad news.

MBC has to be kicking themselves for making these group selection rules.


I'm pretty sure the group selection rules have been the same for years... just usually the champion/runner-up aren't that wussy XD
Writer
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#1174
Also, can somebody update the TLPD entry for Hydra to include the nickname "tuna" ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 10 2011 03:59 GMT
#1175
On April 10 2011 12:54 Gummy wrote:
Also, can somebody update the TLPD entry for Hydra to include the nickname "tuna" ?

How about "MSL destroyer" as well?
☺
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 10 2011 05:50 GMT
#1176
This MSL is already being dubbed by Korean fans as DSL. lol

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
aznagent
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong166 Posts
April 10 2011 07:10 GMT
#1177
Is there a VOD of the group selection?

Wow, Jaedong/Flash/Bisu... one of them already out in ro32... mutiny!

I don't sea see getting out of his group lol...
Quote:
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
April 10 2011 07:14 GMT
#1178
On April 10 2011 16:10 aznagent wrote:
Is there a VOD of the group selection?

Wow, Jaedong/Flash/Bisu... one of them already out in ro32... mutiny!

I don't sea see getting out of his group lol...



yoyo!
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:23:14
April 10 2011 07:22 GMT
#1179
It's just bad for the tournament. If it were possible for Bisu, Flash AND Jaedong to all advance if they played amazingly enough, I wouldn't say this. The burden would be on them to prove their merit.

Last season:
Flash out in Ro32
Bisu out in Ro16

They have only themselves to blame. If Flash had gotten a seed then group D(eath) would have never happened.

Do you propose blatantly using name value as a criterion when it comes to the seeding process? Then things become no better than an invitational. Imo, Flash should be treated no better than anyone else who scrubbed out in Ro32.
?
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
April 10 2011 07:43 GMT
#1180
Can anyone translate the part where Hydra is thinking about his picks? From what I can grasp it seems like he was thinking about putting Fantasy in Group D as well, but he cried "Teamkill!"
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 2
ByuN vs SKillousLIVE!
WardiTV1220
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 218
SteadfastSC 122
JuggernautJason82
BRAT_OK 75
ProTech35
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 509
ggaemo 229
firebathero 193
Zeus 68
Mong 47
Dota 2
qojqva3813
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Grubby2897
Reynor64
Counter-Strike
fl0m5167
ScreaM2099
sgares466
flusha212
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu579
Khaldor445
Other Games
Beastyqt718
Dendi497
Trikslyr60
QueenE53
Sick33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1801
BasetradeTV45
StarCraft 2
angryscii 12
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH175
• printf 45
• tFFMrPink 23
• davetesta21
• iHatsuTV 11
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV412
• masondota2105
Other Games
• imaqtpie1278
• Shiphtur250
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 14m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
18h 14m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
20h 14m
Wardi Open
1d 15h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.