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TLurker
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 23:43:31
April 08 2011 23:42 GMT
#1141
Oh man, Bruce Leta... hilarious; he actually did a back-handspring too(see @25:11):

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/klsAjkIiOVs?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

... FBH's could have been better but I guess the military service has led him astray from his old ways
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 08 2011 23:56 GMT
#1142
OMG GROUP D

Seriously, how the heck does this happen?

This makes me a really sad panda.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
April 09 2011 00:09 GMT
#1143
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


MSL introduced the reseeding system at ro8, making Flash vs Jaedong for like three straight finals so they can "up" the viewership. OSL doesn't have such a thing. Yet, OSL is far more prestigious than MSL. Proposing to "fix" the group is just ridiculous-- it motivates greed and discredit any shenanigans that can be pulled in the selection ceremony to incite drama. Not to even mention that the top 8 seeds are immovable. There are also two players exiting from each group. If anything, the system gives plenty of leeway to ensure the qualified players move on.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
April 09 2011 01:19 GMT
#1144
On April 09 2011 09:09 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


MSL introduced the reseeding system at ro8, making Flash vs Jaedong for like three straight finals so they can "up" the viewership. OSL doesn't have such a thing. Yet, OSL is far more prestigious than MSL. Proposing to "fix" the group is just ridiculous-- it motivates greed and discredit any shenanigans that can be pulled in the selection ceremony to incite drama. Not to even mention that the top 8 seeds are immovable. There are also two players exiting from each group. If anything, the system gives plenty of leeway to ensure the qualified players move on.


i always wondered by why has the OSL been more prestigious?

this time around, many ppl at fomos were talking about how MSL is now the best league given that it got such a good sponsor and OSL failed to get a sponsor and hence is stalling time with some unorthodox mystarleague format
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 09 2011 01:30 GMT
#1145
bruce leta was awesome
▲ ▲ ▲
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
April 09 2011 01:59 GMT
#1146
On April 09 2011 10:19 hmmm... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 09:09 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


MSL introduced the reseeding system at ro8, making Flash vs Jaedong for like three straight finals so they can "up" the viewership. OSL doesn't have such a thing. Yet, OSL is far more prestigious than MSL. Proposing to "fix" the group is just ridiculous-- it motivates greed and discredit any shenanigans that can be pulled in the selection ceremony to incite drama. Not to even mention that the top 8 seeds are immovable. There are also two players exiting from each group. If anything, the system gives plenty of leeway to ensure the qualified players move on.


i always wondered by why has the OSL been more prestigious?

this time around, many ppl at fomos were talking about how MSL is now the best league given that it got such a good sponsor and OSL failed to get a sponsor and hence is stalling time with some unorthodox mystarleague format


MSL came quite a bit later than OSL. OSL is such an established league that the name Starleague became synonymous with individual leagues, even though it's not really true (OGN Starleague vs MBC Starcraft League).

OGN is also more financially stable than MBC (official stream, no virtual stage bullshit, etc) and has historically pulled in the better sponsors. How awesome was Korean Air S2's venue?
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
April 09 2011 02:32 GMT
#1147
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=109&part=games&league=standard#tblt-3876-1-default-0-hydra

Light outclassed Hydra

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=109&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z

Godly TvZ .. no it's LvZ
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
April 09 2011 02:36 GMT
#1148
On April 09 2011 05:08 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 04:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
Group D:

Jaedong > Sea
FlaSh > Bisu
Jaedong > FlaSh
Bisu > Sea
Flash vs Bisu, anyone's game.

Fixed, I believe.

Anyways, interested to see how this plays out, but I think I have an exam that day. Again. T_T


TRUTH
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada378 Posts
April 09 2011 02:45 GMT
#1149
Group D came out with some star power. It's disappointing they won't meet later on but there will still be some great games in the Ro32
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 05:51:58
April 09 2011 05:51 GMT
#1150
On April 09 2011 07:16 Yxes2211 wrote:
It must be nice to be a Flash fan

Even the Group of Death doesn't seem to shake the confidence that Flash will 2-0 lol

Oh, trust me; I'm scared as hell of this group. Although I see Flash as the strong favourite to 2-0 it, there is no guarantee at all that he'll make it out of it alive. I like the feeling though. I'm all nervous and excited already.

On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.

No concern at all.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
April 09 2011 06:10 GMT
#1151
FBH all the way man, and lol at great and Hydra, so evil!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
April 09 2011 06:23 GMT
#1152
So basically what did the comic say?
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
April 09 2011 07:30 GMT
#1153
On April 07 2011 19:17 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
As long as Hydra doesn't pull a Lux and stick Jaedong in a huge group of death, I'll be happy.


...mega-jinx is mega-jinx
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
April 09 2011 11:43 GMT
#1154
On April 09 2011 10:59 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 10:19 hmmm... wrote:
On April 09 2011 09:09 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


MSL introduced the reseeding system at ro8, making Flash vs Jaedong for like three straight finals so they can "up" the viewership. OSL doesn't have such a thing. Yet, OSL is far more prestigious than MSL. Proposing to "fix" the group is just ridiculous-- it motivates greed and discredit any shenanigans that can be pulled in the selection ceremony to incite drama. Not to even mention that the top 8 seeds are immovable. There are also two players exiting from each group. If anything, the system gives plenty of leeway to ensure the qualified players move on.


i always wondered by why has the OSL been more prestigious?

this time around, many ppl at fomos were talking about how MSL is now the best league given that it got such a good sponsor and OSL failed to get a sponsor and hence is stalling time with some unorthodox mystarleague format


MSL came quite a bit later than OSL. OSL is such an established league that the name Starleague became synonymous with individual leagues, even though it's not really true (OGN Starleague vs MBC Starcraft League).

OGN is also more financially stable than MBC (official stream, no virtual stage bullshit, etc) and has historically pulled in the better sponsors. How awesome was Korean Air S2's venue?


Didn't the OSL originally have a larger prize pool than MSL as well?
BW4Life!
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
April 09 2011 12:36 GMT
#1155
if i were hydra i wouldve switched sea with shine for that last switch
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
April 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1156
Sea seems to be unluckiest guy of the season :p
sick groups
No carpal tunnel no skill
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 09 2011 14:13 GMT
#1157
On April 09 2011 05:48 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:37 Holgerius wrote:
Flash got knocked out by fucking noobies last season, there's no guarantee they'll advance anyway. So, we're guaranteed to get a TBLS member knocked out in the group stage; what if we get a Ro4 with Fantasy, JD, Flash and Stork? The end of BW, right?

Cowards. You're just scared your guy might get knocked out.

Plus, several of the best TBLS-games were played in Bo1's; such as Stork vs JD on MP or Flash vs JD on RH3.


So you're saying that you have absolutely no concern, none whatsoever, regarding the impact on sponsorship decisions, that it is, for you, completely irrelevant that the players that draw in viewership are not only on the same group, thus making the other groups less atractive to tune into, but likely to drop out early in the league, dropping viewers left and right?

Absolutely no concern? Dont you think that the current system is at least soemwhat broken? I mean, dont count me in for the removal of the ability to switch players around, its fun and healthy, but maybe, just maybe, there could be a system where groups didnt exceed or drop below certain ELO points.


I'm not concerned. Obviously big names = bigger ratings, but bw is entrenched enough in Korean society to not be completely dependent on them. At least 1 of TBLS always gets bounced out in the group stages, yet MSL always comes back the next season. Future potential sponsors may decide to wait until after the group selections, but I don't believe professional brood war to be so fragile that a one time fluke would jeopardize the future of the esport.
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
April 09 2011 14:25 GMT
#1158
On April 09 2011 15:23 mnesthes wrote:
So basically what did the comic say?


Milkis translated it =] it's up in the blog section



I guess the Group of Death was the price we paid for Leta's ceremony.



[image loading]
It was almost worth it
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
April 09 2011 15:48 GMT
#1159
Holy mother of god group D O___O
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:05:25
April 09 2011 15:59 GMT
#1160
ROTFL Fantasy vs Soulkey AGAIN! This cant be true. Literally. HAHAHAHAHA! Poor fanta...

ROTFL, Group D! This is ultimate group of Death...poor Sea
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
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