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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
April 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#1061
On April 08 2011 16:39 czechue wrote:
IMHO, they must change the way of selecting players. Best players from KESPa should be seeded everyone in other group, and the rest of players would be chosen by lottery, like they do in football championships.

That's exactly what they do, just this time they failed out of the leagues early.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
R A V
Profile Joined November 2009
United States217 Posts
April 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#1062
Group D should be really fun to watch, although a little sad that Flash/JD/Bisu are going to destroy each other in group stages lol
Jaedong? More like JDAWG
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
April 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#1063
Is that for real? I missed the stream yesterday....and Im now shocked...JD/Flash/Bisu in the same group?! :O wtf?! wowwowowow....what day is that group being played? I cant miss that no matter what!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
April 08 2011 08:54 GMT
#1064
Although I really want Flash to advance, of course, I really wish that the two players advancing from grp. D ROFLSTOMPS and humiliates great and hydra.
What's the point in winning a tournament if you're not winning vs the best players? Money and hate.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 08 2011 09:28 GMT
#1065
LMAO, group D.
Brood War loyalist
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
April 08 2011 09:53 GMT
#1066
dam that suck.... group D is just a joke :\.. I don't want the big gun to drop out that fast

still.. be ready to have the most viewers of all time for first round
n_n
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
April 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#1067
Haha, just reading through the changes and I gotta say Hydra, you are one suave ass baller :p
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 08 2011 10:34 GMT
#1068
hell i now that i think about i dont care who gets out of group D, i just hope whoever that person is destroys everybody else (especially hydra/great) for getting out of the group
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
April 08 2011 10:44 GMT
#1069
whoever loses in group D will be a total upset.
yoyo!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 08 2011 10:48 GMT
#1070
On April 08 2011 17:30 KobraKay wrote:
Is that for real? I missed the stream yesterday....and Im now shocked...JD/Flash/Bisu in the same group?! :O wtf?! wowwowowow....what day is that group being played? I cant miss that no matter what!


next Saturday I believe.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
April 08 2011 10:58 GMT
#1071
Mother earth, just woke up to see the groups and... had a heart attack seeing group D.


Wtf happen? anyone care to explain?
Elena[PaiN]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 08 2011 11:04 GMT
#1072
On April 08 2011 19:58 Arkqn wrote:
Mother earth, just woke up to see the groups and... had a heart attack seeing group D.


Wtf happen? anyone care to explain?


well look at the changes section,basically great and hydra trolled everyone here,well most of them.

you should look at some of the hilarious posts though,especially the ones raging about hydra.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
April 08 2011 11:18 GMT
#1073
GJ Hydra and Great. Only Flash v Bisu v JD may make me want to watch BW again.
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
April 08 2011 11:54 GMT
#1074
On April 08 2011 19:44 pinkranger15 wrote:
whoever loses in group D will be a total upset.


Except Sea.

Actually, it would be even more of an upset if Sea advances.
(´・ω・`)
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 08 2011 12:03 GMT
#1075
On April 08 2011 16:00 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 12:22 VGhost wrote:
On April 08 2011 06:11 j2choe wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:03 VGhost wrote:
On April 08 2011 03:30 ffreakk wrote:
Sigh, i still dont get people saying that "its great cos we ll get some TBLS games soon!"..

How is getting 1 game in the group stage preferable to having 3-5 games in the later rounds...
I get the necessity for the longer series as you near the championship, but I don't subscribe to the "more games = better games" theory.


Seriously? If nothing else, it's at least better in that you get to watch more games between the best players in the world.


Yeah... but.

I watch BW for entertainment. I've never made it past D- as a player (minus a lucky putting me at D+ until I... played another game) so I don't pretend to be good. I do like to think I understand the basics of the game a little bit, but right now BW is different from "real sports": very rarely are games between the very best entertaining - you need the not-quite-the-best to make things memorable. fantasy vs Jaedong. free vs HiyA. Leta vs Pure. The Bisu vs Iris series I mentioned before.

The problem is - as Bisu vs Jaedong from WL playoffs demonstrated - is that games between the very best are only rarely decided by actual fantastic play. Build orders and strategic decisions become paramount because there's no real micro disadvantage or advantage to be gained.

Simply put, I'd rather watch HiyA vs Kal in a Bo5 than Flash vs Stork, because we're more likely to get 2 or 3 memorable games out of 2 A class beating each other up than 2 S class with carefully prepared builds leading to (essentially) BO wins.

I do acknowledge that you don't get "ee han timing!" or the JD vs fantasy series without two S class... but at the same time I don't mind losing the possibility of those golden moments because the probability of "silver moments" is much higher with slightly worse players.

Like I said, this probably isn't a very popular view... but it's how I approach things.



...Your first example of not quite the best players playing is Fantasy vs Jaedong?


fantasy is miles better today than he was in that series. That was old-school "can't micro mnm to save his life" fantasy, forcing him to prepare a unique build for every game. Not that he wasn't very good - but consensus said there was a huge skill gap.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 08 2011 12:09 GMT
#1076
Looks to me that ggameo and Ruby have realistic chances of getting out of their groups. Can't say the same for FBH though.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 12:33:04
April 08 2011 12:32 GMT
#1077
On April 08 2011 00:09 darkemperor wrote:
I don't understand why people hate Group D. I think it's gonna be one EPIC showdown. Instead of them getting eliminated early and robbing us those godlike matchups in later rounds (see. Bisu) this is just perfect opportunity to see who has the best nerves and abilities to pull this off. IIRC, there was a group in OSL which had Bisu, Flash, Stork and July.. this is as epic as that one, if not better.
There is nothing epic about a round robin group stage with all the bosses when compared to seeing the three top players struggling through on their own, each in a different group, battling against adversaries in the ro16 and ro8 and then finally duking it out against each other in BO5 semifinals and finals. If the groups were arranged based on ELO, it would be a much more entertaining tournament from spectators POV.
Aah thats the stuff..
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
April 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#1078
Loooool what a group D :SSSSSSSSSS
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 08 2011 12:45 GMT
#1079
hydra made group D a real DEATH group

GJ!
BW is back
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
April 08 2011 12:46 GMT
#1080
Group D is epic!

It's slightly disappointing to have Flash/Jaedong/Bisu clash this early, but it's not like the players have a duty to provide entertaining games, or try and create the most amazing finals MU.

Hydra and great just tried to knock out the competition early, nothing wrong with that.
BW4Life!
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