EPTThats a first .. :D
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
Thats a first .. :D | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On March 22 2011 00:10 aimaimaim wrote: There still isn't a winner's interview. Thats a first .. :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203299 | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On March 22 2011 00:12 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203299 oh damn it .. didn't see that QQ | ||
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ftd.rain
United Kingdom539 Posts
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For_The_Dream
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On March 22 2011 00:31 For_The_Dream wrote: JD stopped owning Terrans with pure muta, thats where his ZvZ muta micro went. Pretty sad seeing his current ZvZ, at the time he had 81% winrate he would never lose mirror build game. He's at 81% in proleague this season. Unfortunately 3 out of his 4 losses have been in ace matches and the fourth one pretty much caused his team to lose as well :| He seems to have caught Flash's ace match curse. | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On March 22 2011 02:51 kuroshiroi wrote: He's at 81% in proleague this season. Unfortunately 3 out of his 4 losses have been in ace matches and the fourth one pretty much caused his team to lose as well :| He seems to have caught Flash's ace match curse. Weren't most of Flash's ace match losses also in his mirror MU? Well, Flash's ace match curse came before he got dual-golds, so I can hope. | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On March 22 2011 04:09 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Weren't most of Flash's ace match losses also in his mirror MU? Well, Flash's ace match curse came before he got dual-golds, so I can hope. Yeah, losses to Hiya, Really, Ruby. Baby and Skyhigh. He managed to win and lose against Ruby and Baby in the same match. I think the last (and only) ace match Jaedong won this season was against Piano but I could be wrong. It's almost certainly a confidence issue at this point. That or extremely bad luck. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On March 21 2011 21:30 foxmeep wrote: they should have sent Jaedong second/third, it was unlikely that anyone else would beat Fantasy. sending Jaedong last leaves him to have to face 2 ZvZs, which worked out in SKTs favour. Killer has the potential to beat Bisu and any Zerg if JD fails. I don't understand it here. Why are people suddenly so confident that Killer can bust the world? Yeah, OK, I saw his recent matches, they were good, even somewhat Jaedongish. But wtf is this confidence here. I need to place the emphasis here that Bisu lost to Jaedong due to the lack of a single cannon. If his DT in the center moved just couple pixels more, he would have seen the bust and responded with multiple cannons. | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On March 22 2011 04:35 kuroshiroi wrote: Yeah, losses to Hiya, Really, Ruby. Baby and Skyhigh. He managed to win and lose against Ruby and Baby in the same match. I think the last (and only) ace match Jaedong won this season was against Piano but I could be wrong. It's almost certainly a confidence issue at this point. That or extremely bad luck. He won against Modesty back in one of the earlier rounds. I think his ace match losses this year came mostly from vZ. I'm pretty sure it's mostly a confidence issue, especially since it's gotten worse after the Bo5 vs Hydra where he actually got outmatched in muta micro. | ||
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zanzib
China152 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On March 22 2011 08:47 zanzib wrote: playing jaedong first might have been better in hindsight... hiya can clearly mop up s2 Fantasy v.s. Jaedong was very close and Bisu v.s. Jaedong was nail biting till we found out Bisu had only one cannon at natural without observer. Different maps could change the result completely. Anyhow, two AKs denied and a finish in a dramatic manner. Would not have asked for any other way to end this match. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
On March 22 2011 05:07 dukethegold wrote: I don't understand it here. Why are people suddenly so confident that Killer can bust the world? Yeah, OK, I saw his recent matches, they were good, even somewhat Jaedongish. But wtf is this confidence here. I need to place the emphasis here that Bisu lost to Jaedong due to the lack of a single cannon. If his DT in the center moved just couple pixels more, he would have seen the bust and responded with multiple cannons. You're right, you don't understand at all. Killer has shown he is capable of winning ZvZ vs anybody. He's also shown he has the potential to beat Bisu (this does not mean he's favoured in the least). You don't have to get so defensive when someone says your favourite player could, dare I say, lose a game. | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On March 22 2011 17:15 jjhchsc2 wrote: Where's killer? ): I can only assume the Oz coaches are trying to create stable players for the 5th and 6th rounds; They've already got Killer and Hiya as semi-stable backup for Jaedong so on average, Oz should get 2 wins minimum in every non-WL match. They still need another 2 wins per match, so... | ||
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GBataille
France19 Posts
On March 21 2011 17:26 dukethegold wrote: Meh, if Bisu had two cannons instead of one at his natural's choke, he'd be fine. Jaedong target fired down the one cannon, without detection Bisu's zealots could do nothing. Seriously, that match was not a good demonstration of Bisu v.s. Jaedong. Skill level can hardly be determined by the decision to skip on a single cannon. On March 22 2011 05:07 dukethegold wrote: I need to place the emphasis here that Bisu lost to Jaedong due to the lack of a single cannon. If his DT in the center moved just couple pixels more, he would have seen the bust and responded with multiple cannons. On March 22 2011 08:58 dukethegold wrote: Fantasy v.s. Jaedong was very close and Bisu v.s. Jaedong was nail biting till we found out Bisu had only one cannon at natural without observer. Different maps could change the result completely. Seriously stop whining already. You'll just make people dislike Bisu. Jaedong scouted a possibility to kill of Bisu with a handful of lurkers in the middle game and he killed him. It's not like 110% of Bisus victories in PvZ comes from scouting a 'flaw' in the opponents play followed by a timing push in the middle game. And stop blaming a protoss favored map, that is just pathetic. And, fyi, stating the same thing three times in two pages doesn't make what you say true. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Also Fantasy vs Jaedong was not really close. Bio into Mech basically forces a long game which makes you think its sort of close but Fantasy was totally starved out against like 5 active base JD, and just desperately trying to fight for a single base. That wasn't close. | ||
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Piege
United Kingdom128 Posts
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