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On February 24 2011 23:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:55 l0st_romantic wrote:On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself Would probably work better if KT had one more decent Terran to work with. Really is a fairly good choice, as he's got enough points in common with Flash for Flash to take him under his wing and mentor him. As Terrans, it should be natural. Stats and Violet should also learn from Nal_Ra and Reach, but I'm not sure if a strong relationship can form between them. One thing that has always puzzled me about SC is that only T's form strong mentor-mentee relationships. Each T Bonjwa has taken other T's under his wing--Boxer-->Oov, Oov-->Midas and Fantasy, Nada-->Mind, and to a lesser extent, Flash. Time for Flash to find a successor--he literally cannot achieve any more, but he can become greater by extending his prowess to nurturing another generation of talent. This is very wrong. Savior almost undoubtedly influenced effort, the entire SKT protoss lineup was dependent on kingdom as their protoss coach -- when he left they took a dramatic and noticeable dip in performance. Also, Nada's been said to have never been a mentor to any of the wemade terrans, for as much as it's worth. It makes sense too, considering Nada was less of an innovator and more of prodigy.
Oh yeah, you're right. Savior did influence Effort very well, but I think that later on that influence waned (especially, I imagine, as Savior got deeper into his match-fixing, which according to Mr Ma started in late 2008.)
Also, very much agreed on SKT-toss-->Kingdom. Although I still think that Nada should qualify as a mentor. He's been good to Wemade.
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Being good does not mean mentor. Hell, even when he was the ace of the team he wasn't even really the leader. Nada's just not that kind of player.
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On February 24 2011 08:55 l0st_romantic wrote:
Nada-->Mind, and to a lesser extent, Flash
"Many people say that Nada was my mentor, but to be frank he was not." (quoted in the Ultimate Weapon TLFE)
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On February 25 2011 05:03 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:55 l0st_romantic wrote:
Nada-->Mind, and to a lesser extent, Flash "Many people say that Nada was my mentor, but to be frank he was not." (quoted in the Ultimate Weapon TLFE)
Got it. Thanks!
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On February 25 2011 04:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Being good does not mean mentor. Hell, even when he was the ace of the team he wasn't even really the leader. Nada's just not that kind of player.
Didn't I say that?
On February 25 2011 00:06 Mortality wrote:
Being a great innovator does not make you a great mentor.
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On February 25 2011 11:33 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 04:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Being good does not mean mentor. Hell, even when he was the ace of the team he wasn't even really the leader. Nada's just not that kind of player. Didn't I say that? Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 00:06 Mortality wrote:
Being a great innovator does not make you a great mentor.
I said it in the post directly before you, if you want to play the "Who said it first" game.
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On February 25 2011 11:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 11:33 Mortality wrote:On February 25 2011 04:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Being good does not mean mentor. Hell, even when he was the ace of the team he wasn't even really the leader. Nada's just not that kind of player. Didn't I say that? On February 25 2011 00:06 Mortality wrote:
Being a great innovator does not make you a great mentor. I said it in the post directly before you, if you want to play the "Who said it first" game.
1. It seemed as if you were replying to me since you posted, then I posted, then a post was made that did not mention NaDa, then you posted again.
2. You said something different, which I corrected.
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On February 25 2011 15:49 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 11:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 25 2011 11:33 Mortality wrote:On February 25 2011 04:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Being good does not mean mentor. Hell, even when he was the ace of the team he wasn't even really the leader. Nada's just not that kind of player. Didn't I say that? On February 25 2011 00:06 Mortality wrote:
Being a great innovator does not make you a great mentor. I said it in the post directly before you, if you want to play the "Who said it first" game. 1. It seemed as if you were replying to me since you posted, then I posted, then a post was made that did not mention NaDa, then you posted again. 2. You said something different, which I corrected.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195308¤tpage=33#659
Semantics aside all I know is I mentioned the Nada not being a mentor thing first, then you responded to me on the innovator thing (I didn't mean he was completely devoid of innovation, but that he was an all time great by merit of his quality as a prodigy moreso than his innovation. He was specifically known for his mechanics).
urgh, this is an LR thread, how has it gone so weirdly off topic into whether or not Nada was something or other.
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Action: what a fucking baller.
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