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On February 23 2011 07:49 loveeholicce wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 07:01 Antoine wrote:On February 23 2011 06:48 Scaramanga wrote:On February 23 2011 05:17 Vortok wrote: Wow, Action actually performed up to the hype that he had like... 4 months ago. Well done and grats KT. Not so roflster today. You mean like a year ago well a year ago he was performing up to it too, 4 months ago he had just as much hype but no results A lot of people drop their preformance for a while after joining a new team. It's pretty understandable. Also, for some reason there seems to be a curse to players that join KT lol (example luxury, who went from contesting jaedong for best ZvP to "wtf is this guy doing on a broadcasted match")
You got it all wrong, he had his opponents exactly where he wanted them, winning.
Oh and the Hydra catch is amazing. Cudos!
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On February 23 2011 21:31 HopLight wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 07:49 loveeholicce wrote:On February 23 2011 07:01 Antoine wrote:On February 23 2011 06:48 Scaramanga wrote:On February 23 2011 05:17 Vortok wrote: Wow, Action actually performed up to the hype that he had like... 4 months ago. Well done and grats KT. Not so roflster today. You mean like a year ago well a year ago he was performing up to it too, 4 months ago he had just as much hype but no results A lot of people drop their preformance for a while after joining a new team. It's pretty understandable. Also, for some reason there seems to be a curse to players that join KT lol (example luxury, who went from contesting jaedong for best ZvP to "wtf is this guy doing on a broadcasted match") You got it all wrong, he had his opponents exactly where he wanted them, winning. Oh and the Hydra catch is amazing. Cudos!
Hahaha, yep. Much better to say that KT has been a cursed team... first Lux's match-fixing, then ForGG, then Violet's leukemia... it's that they succeed in spite of these blows that makes them such a great team to cheer for
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Kind of interesting how KT won without Flash and Oz won without Jaedong in the same week.
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On February 24 2011 02:02 reincremate wrote: Kind of interesting how KT won without Flash and Oz won without Jaedong in the same week. Touche, touche. It's great to see some depth in the BW scene, although I think in time the depth of SC2 will become greater.
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On February 24 2011 02:22 l0st_romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 02:02 reincremate wrote: Kind of interesting how KT won without Flash and Oz won without Jaedong in the same week. Touche, touche. It's great to see some depth in the BW scene, although I think in time the depth of SC2 will become greater.
wut? If you are talking about teams or spectating, sc2 is boring as hell to watch
KT YES FUCK YEAH MAFIAZERG AND ROOKIE TERRAN BRING IT HOME SUPPP
Yeah kind of awesome, KT showing their amazing depth once again, if only we still had Violet... we would have been unstoppable (well we pretty kuch are in WL but yeah...) VIOLET COME HOME I LOVE YOU! get well soon 
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team.
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On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team.
not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL
it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself
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On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself
Would probably work better if KT had one more decent Terran to work with. Really is a fairly good choice, as he's got enough points in common with Flash for Flash to take him under his wing and mentor him. As Terrans, it should be natural.
Stats and Violet should also learn from Nal_Ra and Reach, but I'm not sure if a strong relationship can form between them. One thing that has always puzzled me about SC is that only T's form strong mentor-mentee relationships. Each T Bonjwa has taken other T's under his wing--Boxer-->Oov, Oov-->Midas and Fantasy, Nada-->Mind, and to a lesser extent, Flash. Time for Flash to find a successor--he literally cannot achieve any more, but he can become greater by extending his prowess to nurturing another generation of talent.
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On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself
I'm saying consistency is important, one random killing spree for action doesn't mean KT has a zerg now.
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On February 24 2011 01:42 l0st_romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 21:31 HopLight wrote:On February 23 2011 07:49 loveeholicce wrote:On February 23 2011 07:01 Antoine wrote:On February 23 2011 06:48 Scaramanga wrote:On February 23 2011 05:17 Vortok wrote: Wow, Action actually performed up to the hype that he had like... 4 months ago. Well done and grats KT. Not so roflster today. You mean like a year ago well a year ago he was performing up to it too, 4 months ago he had just as much hype but no results A lot of people drop their preformance for a while after joining a new team. It's pretty understandable. Also, for some reason there seems to be a curse to players that join KT lol (example luxury, who went from contesting jaedong for best ZvP to "wtf is this guy doing on a broadcasted match") You got it all wrong, he had his opponents exactly where he wanted them, winning. Oh and the Hydra catch is amazing. Cudos! Hahaha, yep. Much better to say that KT has been a cursed team... first Lux's match-fixing, then ForGG, then Violet's leukemia... it's that they succeed in spite of these blows that makes them such a great team to cheer for
Luxury getting caught was the best thing that could happen to KT. Who knows how long he had been selling games
This year was tough but even without fOrGG and Violet we're much stronger than we were two years ago.
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I'm confused KT won and no Flash? Incredible.
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Omg, is ACTION BACK? MAFIA ZERG! I wonder why they sent BByong over Leta. Poor Leta, you need to get out of this slump!
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On February 24 2011 12:33 EtherealDeath wrote: I'm confused KT won and no Flash? Incredible. kt has won without flash more times in r3+r4 than skt has won without bisu
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On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself
And no-one else above 50%? Hardly a deep lineup. Also... action hasn't proved himself to be reliable yet.
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On February 24 2011 13:52 nodule wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself And no-one else above 50%? Hardly a deep lineup. Also... action hasn't proved himself to be reliable yet. if you can field a player who has a chance to win in each of the 6 matches in regular proleague then its deep enough. so who do we have? 1. flash, 2. stats, 3. mafia, 4. violet/tempest, 5. barracks/Perfective, 6. reach/yellow
you cant expect the rookies to win every match. and they field reach/yellow only for the fans. so we still have no deep enough lineup
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A win without Flash? Impressive ^_^
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I wonder why they sent BByong over Leta.
That is cause leta is captain. And they are always generously letting other players to play instead of them even though they have better chances.
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"You know the rules, and so do I."
Rick roll'd :/
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On February 24 2011 08:55 l0st_romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 08:42 ZavikZyke wrote:On February 24 2011 08:31 ibreakurface wrote: Lets not get ahead of ourselves though, one set where action does well does not mean we are suddenly a deep team. not gonna say we have THE deepest team.. but if Action keeps this up, KT will be pretty deep. Toss: Stats (and hopefully Violet.. GET BETTER) Zerg: Action (Hoejja X_X) Terran: LOL it's a pretty good lineup if i say so myself Would probably work better if KT had one more decent Terran to work with. Really is a fairly good choice, as he's got enough points in common with Flash for Flash to take him under his wing and mentor him. As Terrans, it should be natural. Stats and Violet should also learn from Nal_Ra and Reach, but I'm not sure if a strong relationship can form between them. One thing that has always puzzled me about SC is that only T's form strong mentor-mentee relationships. Each T Bonjwa has taken other T's under his wing--Boxer-->Oov, Oov-->Midas and Fantasy, Nada-->Mind, and to a lesser extent, Flash. Time for Flash to find a successor--he literally cannot achieve any more, but he can become greater by extending his prowess to nurturing another generation of talent.
This is very wrong. Savior almost undoubtedly influenced effort, the entire SKT protoss lineup was dependent on kingdom as their protoss coach -- when he left they took a dramatic and noticeable dip in performance.
Also, Nada's been said to have never been a mentor to any of the wemade terrans, for as much as it's worth. It makes sense too, considering Nada was less of an innovator and more of prodigy.
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NaDa was a great innovator. The changes he introduced to this game were absolutely tremendous. I especially have TvP in mind. You could argue that the only player to shape it more heavily was St.Eagle who literally invented mech.
Being a great innovator does not make you a great mentor.
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