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biologic.dante
Czech Republic54 Posts
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SpuniasauR
Australia1500 Posts
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pinbaLL
Sweden1711 Posts
On September 22 2004 05:55 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: should they have held WCG China 2004 3 years ago then? lol yeah | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36375 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. amat, it's accepted that the US has a higher income per citizen and greater opportunities than China at the moment, but quality of life is definitely not measured by who gets more money. just because there are lots of people that would love to immigrate the US, it's mainly for economic aspects rather than the fact that the US is "better" for life. you are not someone to measure that. my parents are extremely successful in America but would trade all of that (if they didn't have me to support and raise) for living with their relatives back in China. please don't presume that all other countries' citizens are jealous of the US and that you have any sort of superiority just because you live in a rich country. also, WCG China can't apply for visas until they know who is going. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On September 22 2004 07:59 Hot_Bid wrote: amat, it's accepted that the US has a higher income per citizen and greater opportunities than China at the moment, but quality of life is definitely not measured by who gets more money. just because there are lots of people that would love to immigrate the US, it's mainly for economic aspects rather than the fact that the US is "better" for life. you are not someone to measure that. my parents are extremely successful in America but would trade all of that (if they didn't have me to support and raise) for living with their relatives back in China. please don't presume that all other countries' citizens are jealous of the US and that you have any sort of superiority just because you live in a rich country. also, WCG China can't apply for visas until they know who is going. He did not say that... He said that their are very many ppl who would like to enter USA and never leave, not for what reasons (fairly obvious these would not be because the ppl in USA are in any way "better" than those in china, just economical reasons, surley). Anyway, I don't think it is fair to for the 100000 time say: "it's americas fault!!!! bitch country!!" etc. I think their immigrant policies are very good, it is good that they are strict and they need to be for obvious reasons: it is the country of oppertunity like it or not, of course ppl wanna live there if they barley can survive in their own country and so on. In short, this problem should have been anticipated and solved before any problems even occured. | ||
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FY-Forever
China346 Posts
On September 22 2004 08:38 ParasitJonte wrote: He did not say that... He said that their are very many ppl who would like to enter USA and never leave, not for what reasons (fairly obvious these would not be because the ppl in USA are in any way "better" than those in china, just economical reasons, surley). Anyway, I don't think it is fair to for the 100000 time say: "it's americas fault!!!! bitch country!!" etc. I think their immigrant policies are very good, it is good that they are strict and they need to be for obvious reasons: it is the country of oppertunity like it or not, of course ppl wanna live there if they barley can survive in their own country and so on. In short, this problem should have been anticipated and solved before any problems even occured.  and i think there is also a little bit political reasons in it ? | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. Eh? 800 million you say? -_- I doubt that | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 22 2004 05:42 nullmind wrote: Maybe Korea did it on purpose because China is trying to steal Korea's history! -,.-; The manchuria (old koguryo) thing? | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
Don't make up statistics based on nothing. It's confusing. | ||
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fenixdown
Colombia320 Posts
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
On September 22 2004 03:35 Breeze wrote: That's idiotic... and most of the guys who were denied a visa probably don't give a shit about visiting the USA, WCG just happens to be there and they are being treated like some imigrant wannabes. Go tell that to the people who approve visas, I don't think anyone here actually belives that the Chinese WCG participants want to stay here. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On September 22 2004 12:38 Frits wrote: Yeah, there are like 1000 million ppl in china ? ...... So 4/5th of China wants to go to America? Don't make up statistics based on nothing. It's confusing. more like 1300 million | ||
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
On September 22 2004 02:57 Jim wrote: This has never been a problem for any other country. Look at different sports event and you will see that USA is particulary protective eventhough other countries are equally attractive. The EU has policies very similar to the USA, for many of the same reasons as the USA. Each year millions of people apply for visa applications to EU countries. Each year millions of applications are denied. I just googled visa application requirements to visit Germany. Here you will find a list of countries that Germany and the EU require have visas: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/liste_html Somewhere in here you will find details on the numbers of visa approvals and denials: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/visumangelegenheiten_html The USA and the EU do not have the infrastructure to support all the potential visitors. On September 22 2004 05:55 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: should they have held WCG China 2004 3 years ago then? The visa approval process in the USA for China applicants is like a lottery. Several million apply; (I think) only several hundred thousand are granted. There are a numerous ways the applicants can increase their odds of winning that lottery. The applicant's first priority is to convince the person reviewing the application that they should allow him visit over another. 1. Apply well in advanced (6-12 months) of your visit. This gives you the opportunity to re-file if you application is denied. The more times you try; the more likely you are to win a visa. 2. Find a sponsor family in the USA. Basically the sponsor family sends a letter to the consulate or embassy that says 'we will give the visitor housing and food and take them to their flight at the end of their stay in the USA'. 3. Find a corporate sponsor. A letter from a company like Samsung USA would be great. WCG and WCG USA could also send in letters to let the consulate or embassy know that the visitor will have accomodations, food, and travel taken care of during their stay here, if needed. 4. Ask the SF mayor's office for help. An email or fax from the mayor's office would do wonders for an applicant's application. The mayor's office is very friendly - give them a call. Even if all that were to happen (and it may have happened) the application may still be denied. Perhaps the applicant has a family member currently in the USA that has overstayed his visa. None of us know why the application was rejected. It's a shame it was. It's still not too late to try the above. | ||
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88)WhyYouKickMyDog
United States608 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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