EPT[SPL] KT Rolster vs. STX SouL - Page 40
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
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Emon_
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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moopie
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On November 29 2010 05:47 zenMaster wrote: Even though I picked KT for my FPL because they were cheap, I'm still happy to see them lose. I don't know why people like you even bother to post. On November 29 2010 07:06 Yodo wrote: Is there any explanation for ForGG absence? Why Hoejja? ForGG would have likely played on Circuit Breaker. He likely didn't even practice for Icarus. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
At least they doing fine at football | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
Also, play effing REACH for manliness points. | ||
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Crt
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Biff The Understudy
France7925 Posts
On November 29 2010 08:21 amazingoopah wrote: time for KT to recruit a couple of blue chip prospects like MoustacheTerran and PirateTerran into their lineup up to back up Flash. Also, play effing REACH for manliness points. lol Moustacheterran. Doesn't sound as good as Moustachezerg, don't know why.  | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
same problem with Oz? | ||
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Ryo
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Crt
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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moopie
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On November 29 2010 09:18 Yodo wrote: Why Calm massed queens so match? Did he fall for advice from this thread - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172228#2 ? He expected to have enough hydras to destroy Flash's goliath push, in which case Flash would have added tanks (which beat out mass hydras). Queens would have broken the tank wall and allowed the hydras to crush the mech, similar to what YellOw did to BoxeR at All-Stars. | ||
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
On November 29 2010 09:47 r3z3nd3 wrote: Vote Classic vs Action for Game OF The Week. Classic's strategy was damn risky but DAMN THAT SPINNING SCV! i watched the VOD with chinese commentary and it was so funny hearing the chinese commentator say "Micheal Jackson SCV" | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 29 2010 08:39 Crt wrote: Flash with a new vZ ELO peak its flash .. no one really cares about his peak .. his team is slumping, hell, even killer+ Show Spoiler + damn it! my FPL about stats .. is just his chin was overhyped, not his skills | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On November 28 2010 13:19 okum wrote: 1. Get lurker rushed 2. Opponent builds humiliation queens 2. Win Its not humiliation idiot? Broodling on tanks is a valid strategy so that he could go heavy hydra safely. God reading the live reports threads is painful with the stupidity, especially the omg 'flash so sexy' posts when all he did was mech and attack at the right time to win. Everything was on Calm to have a valid follow up build planned. An obvious facet of it will be to block vulture harass. Just 3 hydras on various ramps ffs or at least a sunken here or there. then broodling every tank, hydra spam the shit out of him in the middle. It all makes sense except the failure of the harass part. On November 28 2010 13:20 Katsuge wrote: guess i expected that once clam's lurkers got cleaned up..:> You got 4000 posts and you don't understand that his lurkers already did the required job? I'm really surprised at the lack of strategical understanding on here, or at least completely underestimating progamers knowledge of what they are doing. How exactly did you expect the lurkers to play a part past that part of the game? He delayed nat by huge amount and gained eco advantage. Then the risky very timing critical queen strategy did not pay off, simple as that. It's a hard map vs mech on hence why i think he tried the queens to rid of the tanks, rather than throw hydras at tanked chokes. It's usual Flash goes heavy tank/vult so i dunno if he anticipated the Queen more or not, his Goliath count made it seem like he expected a muta backstab prehaps? Either way both players did ok, Calm just needed to defend the obvious harass better. On November 28 2010 13:25 whathappened wrote: Then he just sat there, no harass.. double expand and hope Flash doesn't attack? Yeah.. Calm had no gameplan after the lurker-ling attack failed. What, do you understand the game at all? He went lurker opening and you want him to somehow harass? Unless you want to try a basically all-in drop against range upgraded goliaths it ain't gonna happen. Of course he double expanded to catch up to a 14CC economically. Jesus christ this thread just makes me angry with people who literally think they know more than what Calm was doing. Lurker was never intended to end the game thats why he never even tried to get up the ramp. He got unlucky with drone/unit choices, Queen timing and Flash's unit composition that's all, things very hard to get right against Terran. Try actually PLAYING a ZvT sometime before talking shit. It's arguable if the queen to counter tank strategy is very viable or not, but remember EffOrt did it in an OSL final game so its a good assumption that if done right, yes it is. And Kwanro's awful game vs Flash isn't a good indication of the strategy or not so don't even bring that up. They wouldn't attempt it at all if it didn't work in practice. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Could work for PvZ as well if you're facing an opponent who likes 4 zealot drops, although they are normally for quick tech kills. Someone might suggest simply burrow as a cheaper quicker to use alternative but a good terran will always have a quick scan at the ready and then you've just further fucked up your drones. Keep in mind ovies good for escaping drones from any situation really, people don't use it enough. Island just been dropped? Pick em up. Someone killing your nydus with no reinforcements nearby? Pick em up. Not to mention the obvious other uses of drop. Just basically use drop more, defensively as well as offensively. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On November 29 2010 08:37 Ryo wrote: I dunno, when you have one player in the team who is miles ahead of the rest, most of the coach's attention is focused on him. May not be a good thing. I remember Coach Lee travelling with Flash to WCG. You might be right. Everyone talks about how much better the current KT coach is for Flash, but maybe in the process of helping Flash he forgot to care for his other players, resulting in their failure. That could very well be the problem. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 29 2010 14:25 infinity2k9 wrote: Jesus christ this thread just makes me angry with people who literally think they know more than what Calm was doing. Chill man .. wtf? no sense getting your angry about this .. makes you look like a schmuck too. | ||
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