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[SPL] KT Rolster vs. STX SouL - Page 38

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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 28 2010 06:37 GMT
#741
=]
TranslatorBaa!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 28 2010 06:37 GMT
#742
On November 28 2010 15:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 15:15 mustaju wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:14 okum wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:02 mustaju wrote:
Please don't be such defeatists, KT fans. This is still Starcraft, everything might happen.

It didn't. There.

Well, being negative about it didn't help either, did it?


Being positive didn't help, either!

But atleast I didn't have my hope dashed.

While false hope isn't good, I wouldn't say such attitudes didn't do good. Hoejja might have sniped Kal, and forgg has a good chance against Hero. It was realistic, and in ACE, KT has the upper hand again.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9795 Posts
November 28 2010 06:41 GMT
#743
lol well no one saw this coming
boomer hands
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 28 2010 06:42 GMT
#744
I don't think that all of KT could've just decided to slump at once. When STX did it, it was because of an obvious reason(Kal<Effort and Clam<JD), but KT has no such reason. Internal problems perhaps?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
November 28 2010 06:44 GMT
#745
Its not like everybody ONLY plays against Flash during practice. No reason why they should be suddenly allergic to winning. Either they need more practice time, or they need a lil breather to compose themselves.

Or they need to let Reach play. I'm guessing they are waiting for his sexy hair to come back before they put him on.
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underxb
Profile Joined April 2010
Bahrain100 Posts
November 28 2010 06:45 GMT
#746
On November 28 2010 15:44 gostunv wrote:
Its not like everybody ONLY plays against Flash during practice. No reason why they should be suddenly allergic to winning. Either they need more practice time, or they need a lil breather to compose themselves.

Or they need to let Reach play. I'm guessing they are waiting for his sexy hair to come back before they put him on.


LOL
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
November 28 2010 06:45 GMT
#747
Disappointing, but overall a fairly good set of games.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
November 28 2010 06:55 GMT
#748
Hope to see better from the rest in 2 days time. This kind of abject performance is simply not tolerable especially after the huge strides the team made during last season.

+ Show Spoiler +
Best player in the game, incumbent bonjwa, check.

Rising new protoss star of last season, capable of consistently beating players like Fantasy, Sea and Zero, check.

Past OSL winner, macro monster and walking clock terran, check.

Captain whose solidness last season prompted fans to remark that he is a hiya-calibre(pre-slump) deputy, check.

Zerg who was good enough to roll hwasin and give the incumbent bonjwa the game of his life in TvZ, check.


Now someone tell me wtf is wrong. On paper, great. In practice...shit hits the fan.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 28 2010 07:11 GMT
#749
great series by STX. nice snipe by shuttle
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 07:17:29
November 28 2010 07:14 GMT
#750
On November 28 2010 15:55 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Hope to see better from the rest in 2 days time. This kind of abject performance is simply not tolerable especially after the huge strides the team made during last season.

+ Show Spoiler +
Best player in the game, incumbent bonjwa, check.

Rising new protoss star of last season, capable of consistently beating players like Fantasy, Sea and Zero, check.

Past OSL winner, macro monster and walking clock terran, check.

Captain whose solidness last season prompted fans to remark that he is a hiya-calibre(pre-slump) deputy, check.

Zerg who was good enough to roll hwasin and give the incumbent bonjwa the game of his life in TvZ, check.


Now someone tell me wtf is wrong. On paper, great. In practice...shit hits the fan.


I'd only agree with 2.5 from that list. The first two yes. Action's late game is great but getting there has always been a problem (hence the 0.5). Forgg and Violet are past their prime. Forgg MAY be able to pick up some form again but I doubt he'll be on the same level as he was when he won that OSL. Violet acquired the captaincy this season and that's pretty much goodbye unless he passes it on someone else and starts practicing like crazy to improve his game.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 28 2010 07:21 GMT
#751
On November 28 2010 15:55 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Past OSL winner, macro monster and walking clock terran, check.


if you are still calling forgg a macro monster then you are a few years behind
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 28 2010 07:25 GMT
#752
Sorry for the stream crash earlier guys. I have absolutely no idea what happened; I think my ISPs connection crapped out or something, because everything on my local network was functional.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
November 28 2010 07:32 GMT
#753
Guys KT is just taking the same path Flash took to greatness. Win 1 league --> lose next 8 or so in hilarious fashion --> win for rest of time. Just give it... 4 years or so
skating
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 28 2010 07:34 GMT
#754
On November 28 2010 15:20 okum wrote:
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On November 28 2010 15:19 moopie wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:16 okum wrote:
Anyway, I'm now resigning my Rolster icon. Sorry Flash. I'll just pretend that you play for Stars from now on.

Then you weren't a true fan. The rest of us will go down with the ship.

Of course. I was always a Flash fan. I don't need to support his team when they no longer support him

I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. I don't go down with the ship, I go down with Flash. Whoa wait that sounded extremely wrong.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3337 Posts
November 28 2010 07:53 GMT
#755
oh my.. this is getting kind of ugh...
first i liked it how kt lost all but one set, but now i'm feeling just a little bit bad for Flash...
oh well....
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
November 28 2010 09:06 GMT
#756
Oh, how depressing. I mean, is there no one on KT except of Flash who can win even one game?

Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 28 2010 09:33 GMT
#757
Seriously, Calm was hoping Flash wouldn't use scan the entire game? As soon as he saw queens - A-move into gg. Stop falling all over yourself Calm!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 10:02:39
November 28 2010 10:02 GMT
#758
On November 28 2010 15:11 yoonyoon wrote:
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On November 28 2010 15:02 Womwomwom wrote:
On November 28 2010 14:52 tomatriedes wrote:
This season Flash knows what it's like to be Jaedong.


For most, if not all, of Flash's career has basically been him moving KT/KTF somewhere. Even when he was still a cheesy scrub, he was the dude winning the majority of KT's games while people like rA basically lost every game they played.

You could argue that Jaedong doesn't know what its like being the Child Labor terran because even when he lost, it didn't matter because Forgg, Anytime, and the other Oz players like Backho/Hiya/Lomo who were actually pretty decent to good at the time could take the slack from him easily.


Lol, yeah.
Flash's Korean nickname is 소년가장... which is basically the term used for when the child is the head of the household.


Ha, yeah, you guys are right. I had forgotten how bad the rest of KT used to be before their more recent dominating streak. However to womwomwom I think you're forgetting about about the period of time after Forgg left and while anytime was away and when Hiya became inconsistent. At that time Jaedong really did have the KTFlash experience. I remember there being a lot of 1-3 results with Ggaemo and Killer always letting the team down.
Darth Saros
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic245 Posts
November 28 2010 10:32 GMT
#759
tomatreides-you can tell from his AirforceACE games, that ggaemo is definitely not bad. And now the complaints...

Where the hell is Reach? Why the hell is that scrub Action playing? What the frak is the coach thinking? Now I'm glad I didn't stay up to watch this tragedy. STX is undoubtedly a good team, but in my opinion KT should do better than a mandatory Flash win.
Only BW...And everybody and your granny should know about CYBERPUNK 2077.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 11:08:08
November 28 2010 10:56 GMT
#760
On November 28 2010 19:02 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 15:11 yoonyoon wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:02 Womwomwom wrote:
On November 28 2010 14:52 tomatriedes wrote:
This season Flash knows what it's like to be Jaedong.


For most, if not all, of Flash's career has basically been him moving KT/KTF somewhere. Even when he was still a cheesy scrub, he was the dude winning the majority of KT's games while people like rA basically lost every game they played.

You could argue that Jaedong doesn't know what its like being the Child Labor terran because even when he lost, it didn't matter because Forgg, Anytime, and the other Oz players like Backho/Hiya/Lomo who were actually pretty decent to good at the time could take the slack from him easily.


Lol, yeah.
Flash's Korean nickname is 소년가장... which is basically the term used for when the child is the head of the household.


Ha, yeah, you guys are right. I had forgotten how bad the rest of KT used to be before their more recent dominating streak. However to womwomwom I think you're forgetting about about the period of time after Forgg left and while anytime was away and when Hiya became inconsistent. At that time Jaedong really did have the KTFlash experience. I remember there being a lot of 1-3 results with Ggaemo and Killer always letting the team down.


Of course I know that time, but the fact I was making was that Jaedong's whole career wasn't basically made up by teammates who don't give a shit about playing well or even trying beyond appearing on TV. Even in both Proleague Finals, when Jaedong failed his team was still good enough to win or put Oz in a good position.

From Flash's debut he was forced to carry the team. You can't compare the two, especially since Oz didn't have such nice fellows like a match fixer (Luxury's performance was way too erratic for me to believe he only threw one or two games) or teammates who wanted their own team members to lose so they could get some screen time or thought rubbish like "hurry up and lose because you have no chance of winning" (refer to Violet's interview with Teamliquid).

Seems like the same KT is back because the whole team is performing awfully, even guys who are normally fairly good like Stats. The same environment that turned Luxury and Forgg into pretty worthless players. Oz might do badly but they at least seem to try and feel really, really bad when they lose; everyone on 08-09 KTF besides Flash deserved to retire.
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