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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
November 08 2010 09:39 GMT
#161
Calm vs Action.

I'm so conflicted :x

Someone fighting!
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 08 2010 09:39 GMT
#162
On November 08 2010 18:38 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 18:34 Crunchums wrote:
On November 08 2010 18:32 Shikyo wrote:
These BW games seem so strange after playing / watching a lot of SC2. It's obvious he should always have some army ready for drops, he should have overlords spread, he should have way more Zerglings vs drop instead of Lurkers because of the micro, and that he should wait until the tank begins unsieging before attacking with Lurkers.

Why did that game seem just terrible and extremely low-level despite Modesty still being a decent pro-gamer?

Because Flash was in a losing position but Modesty made the classic mistake of pissing away his advantage through overaggression.

It has nothing to do with aggression, it was stupidity and a total lack of gamesense, I believe. That's something a B- foreigner should do, I don't know how a progamer can make such a huge gamesense mistake. =S

Clearly you are not very familiar with Modesty

Calm vs Action
brood war for life, brood war forever
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
November 08 2010 09:40 GMT
#163
Sexy-badass-looking (Z)Calm vs

sadist-looking (Z)Action!

Goooo Action!!
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
November 08 2010 09:40 GMT
#164
Flash played that really well. How many players would have the presence of mind to lift their Starport instead of stubbornly squeezing out one Valk and have the Starport die? It only looked as bad as it did because the Valk came out.

Yeah a better Zerg would have won, but in that mid-game position, Modesty would have beaten any other Terran. A ling runby would have helped no doubt, but in the replay they did show Flash scanning Modesty's bases even throughout the harass to get a sense of what Modesty was thinking.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 08 2010 09:40 GMT
#165
It was bad from Modesty, but still not as bad as his game against Canata during the playoffs haha. And his opponent was Flash so he's forgiven.
ॐ
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
November 08 2010 09:41 GMT
#166
Action Hwaiting!
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
November 08 2010 09:41 GMT
#167
On November 08 2010 18:32 Shikyo wrote:
These BW games seem so strange after playing / watching a lot of SC2. It's obvious he should always have some army ready for drops, he should have overlords spread, he should have way more Zerglings vs drop instead of Lurkers because of the micro, and that he should wait until the tank begins unsieging before attacking with Lurkers.

Why did that game seem just terrible and extremely low-level despite Modesty still being a decent pro-gamer?


The answer is pretty simple. If you haven't played SC1 in a while you tend to forget how ridiculously difficult that game was and how extremely convenient to play SC2 is.

I'd like to see how much stuff the SC2 "Pros" these days would get done if they had to manually move SCVs to the mineral line(s), click every single building to make units, etc. SC1 is so difficult, APM and multi-tasking demanding, that the average Progamer basically has only 1 or 2 areas which he excels at. And then there's people like Flash, who are just inhuman.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 08 2010 09:41 GMT
#168
looks like action lost a little bit of weight.. just a bit lol
Writerptrk
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
November 08 2010 09:42 GMT
#169
On November 08 2010 18:38 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 18:34 Crunchums wrote:
On November 08 2010 18:32 Shikyo wrote:
These BW games seem so strange after playing / watching a lot of SC2. It's obvious he should always have some army ready for drops, he should have overlords spread, he should have way more Zerglings vs drop instead of Lurkers because of the micro, and that he should wait until the tank begins unsieging before attacking with Lurkers.

Why did that game seem just terrible and extremely low-level despite Modesty still being a decent pro-gamer?

Because Flash was in a losing position but Modesty made the classic mistake of pissing away his advantage through overaggression.

It has nothing to do with aggression, it was stupidity and a total lack of gamesense, I believe. That's something a B- foreigner should do, I don't know how a progamer can make such a huge gamesense mistake. =S


Well he was up against Flash, and being in what looked like a winning position against the best player must have made him so eager to try and end the game right away.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 08 2010 09:42 GMT
#170
calm 9pool, action 12hatch
brood war for life, brood war forever
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
November 08 2010 09:42 GMT
#171
9 pool from calm. Action going 12 hatch. This should be over fast.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
November 08 2010 09:43 GMT
#172
o fuck well gg action haha
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 08 2010 09:43 GMT
#173
action will need some sunkens or hes screwed
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 08 2010 09:43 GMT
#174
12hatch should be able to barely defend this with proper micro, needs to get lucky with opponent's initial ling direction, though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 08 2010 09:43 GMT
#175
action cancled his hatch
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
November 08 2010 09:44 GMT
#176
Action cancelled the hatch.

And holds!

But lair incoming for Calm.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 08 2010 09:44 GMT
#177
action survives and only loses 1 drone, gonna hide the hatchery at bottom left
calm gets 2 more drones
brood war for life, brood war forever
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 08 2010 09:44 GMT
#178
Or not, didn't save larvae -_
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 08 2010 09:44 GMT
#179
action proxy hatching at 7
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 09:45:17
November 08 2010 09:44 GMT
#180
nvm lol
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