*phew* That's all the early groups done, I think there's no mistakes - the first thing I've "translated" from Korean!
Thanks to Ikonn for translating the afternoon groups:
Group M: SonGDuri 1:2 ClouD
Best 2:0 ClouD Sharp 0:2 Tyson
Best 0:2 Tyson Tyson qualifies
Group N mini 2:1 Sexy
Stats 2:0 mini Orion 2:1 firebathero
Stats 2:1 Orion Stats qualifies
Group O Tiny 2:0 Dear
Baby 2:0 Tiny M18M 1:2 HoeJJa
Baby 2:1 HoeJJa Baby qualifies
Group P ToSsGirL 0:2 miso
JangBi 0:2 miso PianO 2:1 YellOw
miso 2:0 PianO MIsO qualifies
Group Q Reality 2:1 Rock
RorO 2:0 Reality BByong 1:2 Tempest
RorO 0:2 Tempest Tempest qualifies
Group R 지동원 (T, Samsung) 1:2 Maestro
Snow 2:0 Maestro Last 1:2 Much
Snow 2:1 Much Snow qualifies
Group S Sonkwon 1:2 Mong
great 2:0 Mong BarrackS 2:0 Gorush
great 2:1 BarrackS Great qualifies
Group T 백동건 (P, Woongjin) 0:2 hOpe Suny 2:0 노재상 (Z, Hite)
Midas 2:0 hOpe Reach w/o Suny
Midas 1:2 Suny Suny qualifies
Group U 김진 (P, Samsung) 0:2 Center Casy w/o 하재상 (P, MBC)
s2 0:2 Center Modesty 2:0 하재상 (P, MBC)
Center 0:2 Modesty Modesty qualifies
Group V 윤지용 (P, Woongjin) 0:2 이병렬 (Z, Hwaseung) Saint 2:1 채규승 (P, Hite)
RuBy 2:0 이병렬 (Z, Hwaseung) FrOzen 2:0 Saint
RuBy 0:2 FrOzen FrOzen qualifies
Group W Hwan 0:2 ggaemo
Movie 2:1 ggaemo Crazy-Hydra 1:2 Bogus
Movie 2:0 Bogus Movie qualifies
Group X 김영주 (T, STX) 0:2 Sky Ssak 2:0 sungsun
HoGiL 2:1 Sky Anytime w/o Ssak
HoGiL 2:0 Ssak HoGil qualifies
Group Y 김도욱 (T, Hwaseung) 0:2 herO[jOin]
Shuttle 2:0 herO[jOin] XellOs 0:2 SoulKey
Shuttle 0:2 SoulKey Soulkey qualifies
Calm also won the morning wildcard tournament and faced off against soulkey who won the afternoon wildcard. Calm > soulkey and Calm is seeded directly into the Ro16, while everyone else who advanced today starts in the Ro36
^I'll do my best to update the known results, but as someone who doesn't read Korean, they'll likely be quite incomplete.
5 lings manage to pick off one templar but the rest make it back safely one sair scourged, other dies to hydra a lot of fast hydras moving towards flying's choke 2 decent storms
zealots retreat back behind the wall
hydra take out one cannon, back off from the other 2
another storm drives them away from attacking the spinning forge
On October 29 2010 13:52 JIJIyO wrote: Man I have no idea what this new Andromeda map is. How come we didn't have our usual map preview things, or did I just miss it?
They're using proleague maps. This is icarus i think.
On October 29 2010 13:52 JIJIyO wrote: Man I have no idea what this new Andromeda map is. How come we didn't have our usual map preview things, or did I just miss it?
Because they're interswitching between different prelim games. New maps can be viewed in the maps section of this site
On October 29 2010 13:52 JIJIyO wrote: Man I have no idea what this new Andromeda map is. How come we didn't have our usual map preview things, or did I just miss it?
Hyvaa drops a lot of lurkers into Mind's main, gets off a clutch swarm on top of them right before the defiler dies. Clears out a bunch of supply depots but that's about it.
Mind being super-aggressive, pushing with tanks vults, goliaths, vessels, at hyvaa's 12. But hyvaa sends endless reinforcements, slowly whittling away at stuff.
Some mutas got hit by maelstrom, but some scourge manage to scare the corsairs away just long enough for most of them to get away. They can't be high on health though.
finally princess makes his move towards inner 9, but not enough units violet's army returns to force everything away a plague on a bunch of goons though
violet once again sends his army towards 7 and backs away another ling drop with lurkers in violet's main another plague on a bunch of violet's army as it approaches 6
feedback again on the defiler, again it survives, only to die to goons
the last lurker cleared out of violet's main - storms devasting approaching lurkerling before they can set up to attack violet's army
5 archons morphing right in front of 6
but violet's attack petering out as all the units die or run away, 6 survives for now
violet blows another 4 storms to kill all the drones there still has 2 more storms to kill the incoming cracklings hatch killed, lots of zealots remaining princess concedes
If you go to fomos and click the second link on the white bar (under the blue bar) all the up-to-date results are there, you just have to decipher the korean names
I don't know - I don't think horang2 took that much damage he did lose a lot of mining time in his main though still 2 mines planted west of his main mineral line
On October 29 2010 14:28 vectorix108 wrote: oooooooooo finally GG such a good game
do qualifiers Vods get posted here? I mean even torrents would be good.
I think that nevake usually uploads the bulk footage of the whole thing that gets broadcasted, but aside from what's broadcasted, none of the videos get released as far as I know.
light setting up his tanks to try to cover the path towards 10 as well as his main it looks slightly vulnerable though - but a wraith is set to patrol the east cliff
cc lands at 10 and starts building a scanner right away
horang2's mobile army still mostly goons adding 4 gates and his 3rd at 1.5 just finished
dropship passes shuttle as they head to opposite corners
Reaver drop in the main. Both the shuttle and reaver go down, but they net a decent amount of kills. Probably not enough to justify the sacrifice though.
Man I feel bad for nbs. The guy has been around for years and years, yet I've seen him stuck in the prelims forever. I think I've only seen him get out of it once in all these years of me watching SC. Oh, and BByong will advance from his group. He is the next CJ Terran.
On October 29 2010 15:07 JIJIyO wrote: WTF If you splash your own SCV it kills burrowed shit under darkswarm?!?!?
dark swarm simply moves where a shot hits a few pixels, so if you position your unit a few pixels off from the real target and target it, then can hit whatever you like.
On October 29 2010 15:07 JIJIyO wrote: WTF If you splash your own SCV it kills burrowed shit under darkswarm?!?!?
dark swarm simply moves where a shot hits a few pixels, so if you position your unit a few pixels off from the real target and target it, then can hit whatever you like.
On October 29 2010 15:10 patrick321 wrote: I've been waiting YEARS for a progamer to realize how darkswarm works and abuse it in a professional game. YEEEeeeaars.
Thank you Major
it's been done before...but doesn't happen very often
I'm genuinely surprised. He's been failing for a long time now and even + Show Spoiler +
dropped out of MSL prelims to Miso...
. Good to see him make it out of OSL prelims.
Probably going to lose though after though. :S
EDIT: OMFG I JUST NOTICED PARALYZE ADVANCED! FUCK YEAH. Paralyze bonjwa. He has finally risen from the depths of prelims to take the world by storm. There is no hope now! Only Paralysis! :D
spire for calm - no armory for major though - wraith making
shop done but not researching
vulture revealed to attack 4 slowlings approaching major's main - 1 ling makes it into major's base and sees ALL the tech, including the spinning machine shop
4 lings out for calm - if major doesn't build any rines...finally the rax lights up
this will be lol if the lings arrive before a rine is out but the lings don't head to major's base but instead goof off outside of calm's nat 6 lings now
oh crud it looks like horang2 just rammed into light's main and light gave up? the commentators had no time to say anything but gg as the view switched to the game
Wait! did anyone notice the Oldboy commercial? the guy looks like the main character from the movie and he's promoting some cable/satellite TV subscription?? or maybe my mind is playin tricks on me again... > >
What's her significance? Is she just a fan who got a job, or was she already employed there? I know she didn't do any interviews or anything in the past. Maybe I just missed them.
On October 29 2010 15:39 JIJIyO wrote: Yup for sure this is the same girl as here in the audience at 3:57.
What's her significance? Is she just a fan who got a job, or was she already employed there? I know she didn't do any interviews or anything in the past. Maybe I just missed them.
She's one of the variety hosts on OGN. Pure supposedly has a crush on her.
Edit: She once said Jaedong is her fav player but then at the OSL finals she supported Flash. lol
What's her significance? Is she just a fan who got a job, or was she already employed there? I know she didn't do any interviews or anything in the past. Maybe I just missed them.
She's one of the variety hosts on OGN. Pure supposedly has a crush on her.
Ah ok thanks. I sure would have a crush on her too haha. I'm off to bed now. Hope CJ guys do well!
Can anyone explain what happened in Group H? The results say HyuN went 2-0 against SoO and then there is SoO, who advanced to next qualifier and won it eventually. Where is Hyun, then?
On October 29 2010 15:52 imreker wrote: Can anyone explain what happened in Group H? The results say HyuN went 2-0 against SoO and then there is SoO, who advanced to next qualifier and won it eventually. Where is Hyun, then?
It's the wildcard playoff. The winners this morning playoff for a seed in the next round cos Effort retired.
On October 29 2010 15:52 imreker wrote: Can anyone explain what happened in Group H? The results say HyuN went 2-0 against SoO and then there is SoO, who advanced to next qualifier and won it eventually. Where is Hyun, then?
I copied/pasted from someone that Soo won but it was a mistake. Fixed now.
Just rejoined the stream. All I see is hydras killing shit. I haven't even seen one hydra die yet. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the terran is losing...
5 sunkens + 1 creep - forgg foolishly trying to break - breaks 3 of them, mutas join the fight...forgg with a few rine reinforcements, but in the end he runs
forgg moving in again - his rine force is huge - but this time he loses over a half dozen rines and backs off
calm without glasses watches on
mutas kill the building turret in the main - picking off lots of rines trickling in - now picking off scvs - wow this is effective considering how few mutas there are
No Turrets near Barracks will haunt fOrGG as hero cleverly harasses new Marines. 3rd base and Lurkers out for Zerg, Terran still being boxed in at his own territory.
a couple tanks and a pretty large mnm ball moving across the map, taking out a lurker and OL as they reach hero's nat - hero moves 6 lurkers out and burrows them
Epic Lurker surround by hero, but it feels that if JD executed this, Terran would not have anything left. Calm is laughing his ass off as Guardians and Defilers pop out.
Is Forgg never gonna give you up? No, he does now.
wow hero seemed to have much better defiler control than he had before. maybe it was just that he was so far ahead at that point, but his lategame seems to of have definitely improved since the summer.
an academy for piano at his nat - placing such a vital structure at such a vulnerable position will cost him dearly
a lair starts for the master zerg yellow. his advancing evolution will spell doom for his hapless victim. his 2nd gas is almost online, doubling his vespene resources
several of the mutalisks give their lives for their master but it was an honor for them to be controlled by the storm zerg himself
mutalisks and zerglings completely eliminate the mnm group that piano unwisely sent forwards - now the mutas probe the nat - and head into the main instead
KeSPA ref: "Dudes, remember, when pausing you rise your RIGHT hand to call me, not left. YellOw raised left, therefore he is disqualified". + Show Spoiler +
On October 29 2010 17:02 imreker wrote: KeSPA ref: "Dudes, remember, when pausing you rise your RIGHT hand to call me, not left. Yellow raised left, therefore he is disqualified".
Hahahahaha
On October 29 2010 17:02 bokchoi wrote: lol wtf. all the games are gonna be restarted because of a network issue? thats fucking shitty :[
On October 29 2010 17:02 imreker wrote: KeSPA ref: "Dudes, remember, when pausing you rise your RIGHT hand to call me, not left. Yellow raised left, therefore he is disqualified".
On October 29 2010 17:01 OpticalShot wrote: I checked results and there's no huge upsets anywhere... not fun. Was hoping Britney would make it for the lulz.
i think really losing to paralyze was a decent upset
LOL what a pun in the inspirational video about the rescue of Chilean miners.
"세상에 GG 않았던 당신들을 지지 합니다." -> You who did not GG against the world, we salute you. The pun is that salute (or rather support.. in other context) in Korean sounds like "Ji Ji" k so yeah I just found it awesome.
On October 29 2010 17:01 OpticalShot wrote: I checked results and there's no huge upsets anywhere... not fun. Was hoping Britney would make it for the lulz.
i think really losing to paralyze was a decent upset
Well yeah that was sort of the upset that stood out, but considering how Really was playing in PL (on a 3-game losing streak where he just looked lost and slow), I wasn't too surprised.
On October 29 2010 17:06 bearbuddy wrote: I was half expecting Blizzard the koolaid man to bust down the wall and come in and unplug everything.
On October 29 2010 17:07 OpticalShot wrote: LOL what a pun in the inspirational video about the rescue of Chilean miners.
"세상에 GG 않았던 당신들을 지지 합니다." -> You who did not GG against the world, we salute you. The pun is that salute (or rather support.. in other context) in Korean sounds like "Ji Ji" k so yeah I just found it awesome.
These two posts are both pretty awesome.
Hmm games are started again and hopefully there won't be any more uh network problems. Silly KeSPA
zealot/goon comes from even more behind to kill the 2 tanks
much charging last's position with mostly goons (despite the huge minefield) what a poor poor poor decision - wide splotches of blue goo on the ground, what a giveaway
much decides to include zealots in his attack this time and it's MUCH more successful - but all the zealots are dead and much has to back off again - still, he's retaken control of the SE of the map from last
I wonder what is Much trying to accomplish. Instead of recalling and/or taking control of top-left corner, he just suicided bunch of Goons in futile attempt of attack. Epic Stasises save him, but this game is underwhelming.
Pretty interesting position: neither player is mining at all, Much having still pretty substantial army and possibly some cash in bank, Last rather unable to kill any more bases... Can Grandpa Toss be winning after so much fail?
but last sets up most of his army to defend 3 and is floating a cc there - much's obs sees it though and 3 doesn't actually have that many minerals left
There are times when I think this game won't end, then a minute or so later it looks like it'll end quickly, then it goes back to a stalemate situation. Weird game.
Fun fact: did you knew that three Korean progamers played in a film with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Those were: new KT Zerg, and two STX players: Zerg and Terran. And that film was called... + Show Spoiler +
On October 29 2010 18:00 imreker wrote: Fun fact: did you knew that three Korean progamers played in a film with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Those were: new KT Zerg, and two STX players: Zerg and Terran. And that film was called... + Show Spoiler +
On October 29 2010 18:00 imreker wrote: Fun fact: did you knew that three Korean progamers played in a film with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Those were: new KT Zerg, and two STX players: Zerg and Terran. And that film was called... + Show Spoiler +
streamer, if you see this msg, go on OGN website and stream its internet stream. it is showing OSL prelim. (double stream, on air and internet exlusive)
streamer, if you see this msg, go on OGN website and stream its internet stream. it is showing OSL prelim. (double stream, on air and internet exlusive)
On October 29 2010 18:11 phosphorylation wrote: streamer, if you see this msg, go on OGN website and stream its internet stream. it is showing OSL prelim.
On October 29 2010 18:11 phosphorylation wrote: streamer, if you see this msg, go on OGN website and stream its internet stream. it is showing OSL prelim. (double stream, on air and internet exlusive)
currently showing best vs some terran
IIRC, Roffles said he would be afk earlier in this thread.
On October 29 2010 18:11 phosphorylation wrote: streamer, if you see this msg, go on OGN website and stream its internet stream. it is showing OSL prelim. (double stream, on air and internet exlusive)
If you still want to watch, you can try tuning in on ongamenet.com, there's a small LIVE panel on the right side, the program with the orange internet label is the online stream. It lags a lot for me, but maybe some of you would have better results.
Yep, I subconsciously just presumed Best would be ahead, but corrected it I wish we saw the beginning of this game, I wonder how did Tyson end up in this situation.
Best trying to get out of the contain now, big fight, Best wins barely, but he's still down a base. Now moving towards Tyson's nat.
LOL, despite superior positioning and back-up Zealots, Tyson is forced to run away. However, remnants of Best's army are caught in the middle and eradicated. Best GG's.
On October 29 2010 19:20 endy wrote: Best failed at MSL prelims, he has to qualify today. I mean he defeated Flash in an ace match and humiliated free in PvP and can't beat Tyson ?
Tyson is the strange type that either humiliates himself or his opponents.Best was just unlucky today.
On October 29 2010 19:20 endy wrote: Best failed at MSL prelims, he has to qualify today. I mean he defeated Flash in an ace match and humiliated free in PvP and can't beat Tyson ?
he has some problems qualifying prelimenaries ,psychological ones.
On October 29 2010 19:20 endy wrote: Best failed at MSL prelims, he has to qualify today. I mean he defeated Flash in an ace match and humiliated free in PvP and can't beat Tyson ?
On October 29 2010 19:20 endy wrote: Best failed at MSL prelims, he has to qualify today. I mean he defeated Flash in an ace match and humiliated free in PvP and can't beat Tyson ?
So...
Tyson > Best > Free = Flash ???
I'm also disapointed in best
not the right analogy.
Something's bothering BeSt thats not letting him stay calm.
On October 29 2010 19:20 endy wrote: Best failed at MSL prelims, he has to qualify today. I mean he defeated Flash in an ace match and humiliated free in PvP and can't beat Tyson ?
So...
Tyson > Best > Free = Flash ???
I'm also disapointed in best
not the right analogy.
Something's bothering BeSt thats not letting him stay calm.
Which means he's clam ?? Sorry... TvT atm. Edit : go Midas, I believe !
For those (like me), who see blank page under direct link: 1) Go to http://www.ongamenet.com/main.ogn 2) Find the word LIVE and click on link below that says 13:30. 3) Allow your browser to establish an encrypted connection (OK). 4) ... 5) Profit!
Chogolings playing hide-and-seek with Marines, waiting for Mutas to join the Labour Party. Terran Conservatist decides to move Marines and fight ferrocious enemy at his choke. The workers suffer as usual, as Mutas dodge public debate and harass mining camps with Wurm Glaives.
Haha, great has enough bases to go Ultras without Defilers. Nice little insult by making Hatchery under CC. Cute little playgu goes down as well, what's next?
On October 29 2010 20:28 mustaju wrote: Any games left?
There are commercials on loop now on the stream, but the commentators haven't said goodbye + the full list of qualifiers hasn't been shown so I don't think it's over
On October 29 2010 20:19 Ryo wrote: I managed to register an OGN account but can't view the stream. It's a blank page for me
I followed the instructions posted on page 39 of this thread and it worked. No registration needed
You don't register at all. I posted a direct link to the player with no bullshit to see the stream. No click throughs either. It just loads the player.
On October 29 2010 20:19 Ryo wrote: I managed to register an OGN account but can't view the stream. It's a blank page for me
I followed the instructions posted on page 39 of this thread and it worked. No registration needed
You don't register at all. I posted a direct link to the player with no bullshit to see the stream. No click throughs either. It just loads the player.
I was trying to get the ongamenet stream (the one Roffles was restreaming) but not able to.
On October 29 2010 21:02 Ryo wrote: When is calm playing for the wildcard?
I thought the win over Killer prompted a game between the winner of the afternoon and morning wildcard group winners. Am I correct?
Yes. So if Frozen won the afternoon playoff then he shld be playing Calm for the wildcard
If that is so then STX fighting! (rooting more for Calm) EDIT: just so you know, answering stupid questions like mine will get you to your 1000-th post, are you sure you don't want to save it for something special?
On October 29 2010 21:02 Ryo wrote: When is calm playing for the wildcard?
I thought the win over Killer prompted a game between the winner of the afternoon and morning wildcard group winners. Am I correct?
Yes. So if Frozen won the afternoon playoff then he shld be playing Calm for the wildcard
If that is so then STX fighting! (rooting more for Calm) EDIT: just so you know, answering stupid questions like mine will get you to your 1000-th post, are you sure you don't want to save it for something special?
He's qualified for others since then. A couple of seasons ago he made top 8 in the MSL before getting 3-0'd by Flash. He has seemed to have lost his spark for series games, though.
On the bright side, for me atleast, lots of KT players making it thorugh. ForGG, Stats, Violet, Tempest, Suny. Woop, shame Hoejja lost 1:2 to Baby.
Actually BeSt didnt qualify through the preliminaries for the MSL where he got 3-0ed by Flash. He was automatically seeded into the survivor tournament because he was the highest ranked player on his team not already in the tournament. Thank god the MSL doesnt use that rule anymore.
BeSts record in preliminaries is quite disturbing with losses to Lucifer, Major, Index, Shine[Name] (the terran, retired now), Bleach (SC2 player in GSL2), and Iron (also SC2 player in GSL2).
Zona made this for the benefit of those needing an LR thread. It was already a fair way into the prelims as nobody else was willing to be responsible for one.
Internet Cast - Streamed different games but some matches may overlap with TV Broadcast. Also missing the first part of the cast (about 35min) + Show Spoiler +
It's such a shame Best and Light didn't make it. Such talents will surely be missed, because they were two of the few guys who could threaten Flash and Jaedong.
wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
Yeah can't believe Best the only guy to beat Flash recently is out of OSL and MSL, and losing to the guy who was trying to let Hiya win their game during OZ v MBC lol >< of all things
Man, I cannot wait for some OSL. GSL is so boring in comparison. Every game I've seen has ended in around 10 minutes or less in a single attack, and Tasteless and Artosis are so bland and repetitive. NEED SOME NUKE COMMENTARIES.
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
Movie is at least on the same level as ggaemo and Midas...
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
you're calling a starleague finalist a noob O_o
He really got lucky that one time....EVER2009.
Oh yeah, beating Zero and Shine in the most imbalanced matchup of 2009 (not even Bisu or Stork were able to defeat Shine) was surely only luck.
Oh and he also was the only toss putting up a fight vs Flash in a bo5 (best, free, pure got all destroyed).
On October 30 2010 19:31 SuperArc wrote: Oh and he also was the only toss putting up a fight vs Flash in a bo5 (best, free, pure got all destroyed).
Rofl, Fanboys^^ Here's an analogy : Imagine there's a little kid with glasses in midlle school. For some reason, he has annoyed the biggest guy in the school. And this guy has already beaten like everybody in the school. Everybody is sure the kid is gonna end up in the hospital with his legs and arms broken, and his face in blood. Then there is a really smart guy who comes close to him before the fight and tells him "hey, maybe you should just run then plunge and hide your face, it would not be so bad" The kid follows the advice and like, ends up with an arm not broken and not that much blood on his face. The other kid are quite impressed by this performance, with good reason. Well, the little kid is Movie, the big guy is Flash, the advice is given by the coaching staff, the other guys are the spectators, and the gay "strategy" is carriers.
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
you're calling a starleague finalist a noob O_o
He really got lucky that one time....EVER2009.
Oh yeah, beating Zero and Shine in the most imbalanced matchup of 2009 (not even Bisu or Stork were able to defeat Shine) was surely only luck.
Oh and he also was the only toss putting up a fight vs Flash in a bo5 (best, free, pure got all destroyed).
Zero is a massive choker. No matter which situation he is in, if there is pressure, he will get embarrassed. Ace matches? He'll lose and puff his cheeks. Ro8 series matches? He'll lose 2-0 and puff his cheeks. Forced to play against a team mate like Free? He'll lose 2-0 and puff his cheeks.
You could probably consider Movie's PvZ to be "better" than Bisu's and Stork's because he wasn't slumping like Bisu or as unstable as Stork. But none of this even confirms Shine's skill level; the reality is he couldn't use anything beyond lair tech because he has such awful macro. Beating Stork and Bisu with hydrabusts doesn't confirm anything besides those two seriously sucked at PvZ at the time.
And no, Movie didn't really put that much of a fight against Flash. The reason Best, Free, and Pure all got destroyed was because Flash was actually assertive against these players: the massive reason for his recent performance was because he actually plays aggressively now. Flash turtled Movie to death (never happens in PvT). Flash blocked a very aggressive tech build order and rolled him in a single push, Flash lost to surprise carriers after losing his army by playing passive, then destroyed him with that new FD build.
Movie was good at the time but don't try and make him into something he isn't: his OSL run, like many one time wonders, was very much dependent on luck. He only played his best matchup and played progamers with massive, massive flaws in their play: Shine can't macro and Zero is streaky and performs poorly under pressure (IIRC right before the series match he get demolished by Stork two times in Proleague). Though after years of reading your posting, I'm guessing you are actually obtuse and blinded from by allegiance to CJ or something.
On October 30 2010 12:07 infinitestory wrote: wow good god, I got so many of my predictions wrong
a lot of heavily unqualified players came out of this OSL prelim IMO, kicking out players such as Best, ggaemo, and Midas while letting nubs like Tyson, Movie, and Suny through. I have a feeling we'll see our seeds dominate in the upcoming rounds.
you're calling a starleague finalist a noob O_o
Well a Starleague finalist doesn't have to be good if he somehow gets a nice route and somehow gets on a hot streak (note: Movie was good at the time). Outside of ZvP and Monty Hall, I can't remember anything about Silver to be honest.
No surprise with JangBi, but Best fails again? Ugh.
And Calm is seeded into the Ro24 (or actually 28 players remaining) not the Ro16. This is the latter part of the Ro36 (or actually 40 players remaining).
Thank god for carriers. They're the only thing keeping PvT honest. If no one used carriers, T could turtle up with nothing but vultures, mines, tanks, and vessels, every single game. The threat of carriers forces T, for a change, to fear letting P sit back and macro up too much, rather than the other way around all the time. That means, on the margins, less turtling "gayness".
Tell me where the strategy is in passive turtling until 3/3 upgrades (or, judging from your icon for that matter, spamming one midgame unit such that a mediocre zerg was able to make it to the OSL semifinals doing nothing but that, until aforementioned flukytoss knocked him out) and I'll show you double that in properly timing/hiding a carrier switch and proper carrier micro.
Thank god for carriers. They're the only thing keeping PvT honest. If no one used carriers, T could turtle up with nothing but vultures, mines, tanks, and vessels, every single game. The threat of carriers forces T, for a change, to fear letting P sit back and macro up too much, rather than the other way around all the time. That means, on the margins, less turtling "gayness".
Tell me where the strategy is in passive turtling until 3/3 upgrades (or, judging from your icon for that matter, spamming one midgame unit such that a mediocre zerg was able to make it to the OSL semifinals doing nothing but that, until aforementioned flukytoss knocked him out) and I'll show you double that in properly timing/hiding a carrier switch and proper carrier micro.
Rofl sorry, that was the line for my bad imitation of a baller metaphore... I'm totally fine with carriers, I'm even a Stork fan you know^^ You seem a little bit insecure about the PvZ match up though... To each is own I guess^^ (let's be clearer, I don't like Shine, even though what I've said before should have made that clear !)
On October 31 2010 04:24 yanmaodao wrote: Not really saying that Movie is good, but...
the gay "strategy" is carriers.
Thank god for carriers. They're the only thing keeping PvT honest. If no one used carriers, T could turtle up with nothing but vultures, mines, tanks, and vessels, every single game. The threat of carriers forces T, for a change, to fear letting P sit back and macro up too much, rather than the other way around all the time. That means, on the margins, less turtling "gayness".
Tell me where the strategy is in passive turtling until 3/3 upgrades (or, judging from your icon for that matter, spamming one midgame unit such that a mediocre zerg was able to make it to the OSL semifinals doing nothing but that, until aforementioned flukytoss knocked him out) and I'll show you double that in properly timing/hiding a carrier switch and proper carrier micro.
Rofl sorry, that was the line for my bad imitation of a baller metaphore... I'm totally fine with carriers, I'm even a Stork fan you know^^ You seem a little bit insecure about the PvZ match up though... To each is own I guess^^ (let's be clearer, I don't like Shine, even though what I've said before should have made that clear !)
lol what toss fan isn't? I don't have a problem with hydra busts per se, any decent toss needs to know how to defend them and it's his fault is he doesn't. I just have a problem with any apparent selective condemning of carriers. 'Pologies if I came off tetchy, but such is my devotion to Auir.
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Calm (Bye)
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