EPT[MSL] Grand Final - Page 76
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Zona
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:33 Shikyo wrote: Zerg needs to double expand or he dies to mech right away. If terran does an early mech push, Zerg loses if he double-expand. You just need to guess what T will do, and if you know how to select a marine and click P, there's nothing Zerg can do to scout. For some reason it's a taboo to talk about SCBW imbalance but whatever, I have a differing opinion about that. JD could play safer if the maps weren't T>>Z in the late game, forcing JD to take lots of risks for early advantage. I will note that Zerg can guarantee the scout on Terran if Zerg gets mutalisks or speed overlord. | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:33 Malinor wrote: There really is not much to it, Jaedong is simply approaching it all wrong like the last finals. Sack the fucking Overlord for gods sake to see the 4 factories ==> research lurkers, then expand. He let Flash get away with the fifth 14CC in a row, and tries to win a macrogame (4 out of 5 times) but he. will. not. win those. He shows no real dangerous early aggression whatsoever. Sometimes it's not the worst thing to learn from EffOrt. Flashs late-game terran cannot be taken down by Jaedong currently. Jaedong expands like crazy and then Flash just does a strong timing push and it's gg because Jaedong isn't prepaired because of all those hatcheries and no units. These finals really make me mad. Your knowledge is so supreme, you should be in the final instead of Jaedong! | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:35 Zona wrote: JD is making the obvious assumptions when he sees what limited information he can see, while Flash is assuming that JD will make the obvious assumption and modifying his plans to take advantage of that. It's lovely and neutral to say the two players are "roughly on the same level" but Flash is really showing he's thinking one level deeper. Or maybe he's just guessing and being lucky. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:33 Malinor wrote: There really is not much to it, Jaedong is simply approaching it all wrong like the last finals. Sack the fucking Overlord for gods sake to see the 4 factories ==> research lurkers, then expand. He let Flash get away with the fifth 14CC in a row, and tries to win a macrogame (4 out of 5 times) but he. will. not. win those. He shows no real dangerous early aggression whatsoever. Sometimes it's not the worst thing to learn from EffOrt. Flashs late-game terran cannot be taken down by Jaedong currently. Jaedong expands like crazy and then Flash just does a strong timing push and it's gg because Jaedong isn't prepaired because of all those hatcheries and no units. These finals really make me mad. just what i wanted to say, what a horrible day so far | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:33 foxmeep wrote: I'm 99% sure Flash had his SCV in JD's base before he put the 14CC down. He knew JD didn't 9 pool. make it 100% It is the same way he played last MSL final. Always scouting before putting down his cc | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote: Why are people telling Jaedong to go 9pool? When I had suggested it half a year ago people made fun of me telling terran will just rax expand and zerg will be horribly behind eco-wise... It's more about mind games than choosing a good strat. Jaedong can go 9 pool, but if Flash counters with a build that is inbetween eco and early aggression than he will be behind eco wise. But considering Flash is so conservative, people are telling J to do something balsy and surprising to turn this series around. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
  ZergBong. Flash is making SC1 terran look like SC2 terran. | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:35 Zona wrote: JD is making the obvious assumptions when he sees what limited information he can see, while Flash is assuming that JD will make the obvious assumption and modifying his plans to take advantage of that. It's lovely and neutral to say the two players are "roughly on the same level" but Flash is really showing he's thinking one level deeper. map imbalance is also a huuuge factor in this | ||
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mierin
United States4945 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:35 Zona wrote: JD is making the obvious assumptions when he sees what limited information he can see, while Flash is assuming that JD will make the obvious assumption and modifying his plans to take advantage of that. It's lovely and neutral to say the two players are "roughly on the same level" but Flash is really showing he's thinking one level deeper. Yes, hitting "g" over and over is very deep thinking. Useful skill toi have. | ||
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Terakin
Jamaica22 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9432 Posts
WTF! What is wrong with Romania ? | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
dont lose to 3 rushes in a row again | ||
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Demand2k
Norway875 Posts
When Flash loses, his own fans blame Flash, and JD fans gloat. When JD loses, his fans are you completely mental and blames everything and everyone else. Makes it obvious to me which fanbase has followed their player through a couple of deep slumps, and don't expect a win every single time. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:36 Fontong wrote: For all it mattered, Jaedong could have been a D zerg, rank 1 diamond, or fucking ZergBong. Flash is making SC1 terran look like SC2 terran.Thats Flash for ya. :/ | ||
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tenacity
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