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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 28 2010 10:36 GMT
#1521
On August 28 2010 19:34 roMAD wrote:
This is depressing. Terrans are just waaaaaaaaay too flexible in TvZ and zergs can't really scout well.
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:32 Letmelose wrote:
This is what happens if you make maps that allow terrans to expand and tech up at the same time, with no other starting locations for zergs to exploit. Zerg has to play on even bases and then die a horrible late game death. Jaedong knew that he had to cut every corner he could in order to have a chance of winning at the late game stages. Flash knew this also. What does he do? He chooses the builds that counter the only choice of a build order that Jaedong can take if he is to play a standard game.

Totally agree with this.


That might be true, but Jaedong just doesn't play right, it's hard to blame it on the map when he loses like this.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1522
On August 28 2010 19:30 Lightwip wrote:
Seriously, this needs less 12 hatch and more 9 pool speed.


I think some psychology from WCG games is playing into this.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1523
On August 28 2010 19:35 superjoppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:33 Malinor wrote:
There really is not much to it, Jaedong is simply approaching it all wrong like the last finals. Sack the fucking Overlord for gods sake to see the 4 factories ==> research lurkers, then expand.
He let Flash get away with the fifth 14CC in a row, and tries to win a macrogame (4 out of 5 times) but he. will. not. win those. He shows no real dangerous early aggression whatsoever. Sometimes it's not the worst thing to learn from EffOrt.

Flashs late-game terran cannot be taken down by Jaedong currently. Jaedong expands like crazy and then Flash just does a strong timing push and it's gg because Jaedong isn't prepaired because of all those hatcheries and no units.

These finals really make me mad.

Your knowledge is so supreme, you should be in the final instead of Jaedong!

so what Are YOU trying to say???
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1524
On August 28 2010 19:35 Zona wrote:
JD is making the obvious assumptions when he sees what limited information he can see, while Flash is assuming that JD will make the obvious assumption and modifying his plans to take advantage of that. It's lovely and neutral to say the two players are "roughly on the same level" but Flash is really showing he's thinking one level deeper.

The fact that Zerg has no way to scout a Terran and that Terran has about 50 differing openings that are all extremely viable and require perfect response by Zerg surely helps with all the deep thinking.
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1525
On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Flash - Turtle Master

wtf


Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well.

guys, are you all from romania?

WTF!
What is wrong with Romania ?


Hahaha. <3
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1526
On August 28 2010 19:36 tenacity wrote:
which band was that? SNSD?


Rainbow? :o
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1527
On August 28 2010 19:36 tenacity wrote:
which band was that? SNSD?


no it was rainbow..
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1528
On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Flash - Turtle Master

wtf


Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well.

guys, are you all from romania?

WTF!
What is wrong with Romania ?

+ Show Spoiler +

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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 10:37:51
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1529
On August 28 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote:
Why are people telling Jaedong to go 9pool?

When I had suggested it half a year ago people made fun of me telling terran will just rax expand and zerg will be horribly behind eco-wise...


Could someone answer me this please?

EDIT: Ty Qwertify.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1530
One fan with a closed water bottle by his mouth reacts with surprise as the camera focuses on him...then him and his buddy make "V" signs with their fingers...haha.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1531
these are really cool timing attacks

if i was watching a terran iccup stream i would really enjoy it

unfortunately it is 3:30 am and this is jaedong and flash so can we please have a good game. just one. it is fighting spirit just give me this one thing i don't care if jd loses it just don't you fucking DARE bbs now
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1532
Flash is playing Dimitri style (check for his WCG performances).
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1533
geez, this isn't even the maps. It's just T>>>Z when in the hands of Flash.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1534
On August 28 2010 19:36 Demand2k wrote:
It's kinda funny how the chat tendencies are on most streams.

When Flash loses, his own fans blame Flash, and JD fans gloat.
When JD loses, his fans are you completely mental and blames everything and everyone else.

Makes it obvious to me which fanbase has followed their player through a couple of deep slumps, and don't expect a win every single time.

They're passionate, nothing wrong with that. Unless it gets violent...
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DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1535
Ever since SC2 came out Terran is now OP in every SC game amirite?
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1536
On August 28 2010 19:36 Demand2k wrote:
It's kinda funny how the chat tendencies are on most streams.

When Flash loses, his own fans blame Flash, and JD fans gloat.
When JD loses, his fans are you completely mental and blames everything and everyone else.

Makes it obvious to me which fanbase has followed their player through a couple of deep slumps, and don't expect a win every single time.

Only noticed this now?
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1537
On August 28 2010 19:29 Waxangel wrote:
It's pretty incredible how Flash was willing to completely disregard the possibility of Jaedong going for lurkers; in terms of both strategic thinking and having the balls to ignore such a dangerous possibility

Flash has built-in maphacks and mind-games, honestly, he's the smartest player in the history of starcraft. Even a genius like Jaedong is playing second-fiddle, Flash knows what he's thinking before he does. Mind-games have been won by Flash so far. Jaedong need a cheesy win to rattle Flash, but it's easier said than done.
........
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 28 2010 10:37 GMT
#1538
i dont even remember the last time flash lost a late game to zerg.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
August 28 2010 10:38 GMT
#1539
On Jaedong's side however, he did have to play on 2 very ZvT unfriendly maps, both of which were set up at cross positions.
CJ Entusman #24
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
August 28 2010 10:38 GMT
#1540
On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Flash - Turtle Master

wtf


Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well.

guys, are you all from romania?

WTF!
What is wrong with Romania ?

we have a winner.
ding ding ding ding!
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