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On August 28 2010 19:34 roMAD wrote:This is depressing. Terrans are just waaaaaaaaay too flexible in TvZ and zergs can't really scout well. Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 19:32 Letmelose wrote: This is what happens if you make maps that allow terrans to expand and tech up at the same time, with no other starting locations for zergs to exploit. Zerg has to play on even bases and then die a horrible late game death. Jaedong knew that he had to cut every corner he could in order to have a chance of winning at the late game stages. Flash knew this also. What does he do? He chooses the builds that counter the only choice of a build order that Jaedong can take if he is to play a standard game. Totally agree with this.
That might be true, but Jaedong just doesn't play right, it's hard to blame it on the map when he loses like this.
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On August 28 2010 19:30 Lightwip wrote: Seriously, this needs less 12 hatch and more 9 pool speed.
I think some psychology from WCG games is playing into this.
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On August 28 2010 19:35 superjoppe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 19:33 Malinor wrote: There really is not much to it, Jaedong is simply approaching it all wrong like the last finals. Sack the fucking Overlord for gods sake to see the 4 factories ==> research lurkers, then expand. He let Flash get away with the fifth 14CC in a row, and tries to win a macrogame (4 out of 5 times) but he. will. not. win those. He shows no real dangerous early aggression whatsoever. Sometimes it's not the worst thing to learn from EffOrt.
Flashs late-game terran cannot be taken down by Jaedong currently. Jaedong expands like crazy and then Flash just does a strong timing push and it's gg because Jaedong isn't prepaired because of all those hatcheries and no units.
These finals really make me mad. Your knowledge is so supreme, you should be in the final instead of Jaedong! so what Are YOU trying to say???
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On August 28 2010 19:35 Zona wrote: JD is making the obvious assumptions when he sees what limited information he can see, while Flash is assuming that JD will make the obvious assumption and modifying his plans to take advantage of that. It's lovely and neutral to say the two players are "roughly on the same level" but Flash is really showing he's thinking one level deeper. The fact that Zerg has no way to scout a Terran and that Terran has about 50 differing openings that are all extremely viable and require perfect response by Zerg surely helps with all the deep thinking.
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On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote: Flash - Turtle Master wtf Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well. guys, are you all from romania? WTF! What is wrong with Romania ?
Hahaha. <3
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On August 28 2010 19:36 tenacity wrote: which band was that? SNSD?
Rainbow? :o
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On August 28 2010 19:36 tenacity wrote: which band was that? SNSD?
no it was rainbow..
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On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote: Flash - Turtle Master wtf Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well. guys, are you all from romania? WTF! What is wrong with Romania ? + Show Spoiler +
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On August 28 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote: Why are people telling Jaedong to go 9pool?
When I had suggested it half a year ago people made fun of me telling terran will just rax expand and zerg will be horribly behind eco-wise...
Could someone answer me this please?
EDIT: Ty Qwertify.
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One fan with a closed water bottle by his mouth reacts with surprise as the camera focuses on him...then him and his buddy make "V" signs with their fingers...haha.
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these are really cool timing attacks
if i was watching a terran iccup stream i would really enjoy it
unfortunately it is 3:30 am and this is jaedong and flash so can we please have a good game. just one. it is fighting spirit just give me this one thing i don't care if jd loses it just don't you fucking DARE bbs now
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Flash is playing Dimitri style (check for his WCG performances).
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geez, this isn't even the maps. It's just T>>>Z when in the hands of Flash.
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On August 28 2010 19:36 Demand2k wrote: It's kinda funny how the chat tendencies are on most streams.
When Flash loses, his own fans blame Flash, and JD fans gloat. When JD loses, his fans are you completely mental and blames everything and everyone else.
Makes it obvious to me which fanbase has followed their player through a couple of deep slumps, and don't expect a win every single time. They're passionate, nothing wrong with that. Unless it gets violent...
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Ever since SC2 came out Terran is now OP in every SC game amirite?
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On August 28 2010 19:36 Demand2k wrote: It's kinda funny how the chat tendencies are on most streams.
When Flash loses, his own fans blame Flash, and JD fans gloat. When JD loses, his fans are you completely mental and blames everything and everyone else.
Makes it obvious to me which fanbase has followed their player through a couple of deep slumps, and don't expect a win every single time. Only noticed this now?
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On August 28 2010 19:29 Waxangel wrote: It's pretty incredible how Flash was willing to completely disregard the possibility of Jaedong going for lurkers; in terms of both strategic thinking and having the balls to ignore such a dangerous possibility Flash has built-in maphacks and mind-games, honestly, he's the smartest player in the history of starcraft. Even a genius like Jaedong is playing second-fiddle, Flash knows what he's thinking before he does. Mind-games have been won by Flash so far. Jaedong need a cheesy win to rattle Flash, but it's easier said than done.
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i dont even remember the last time flash lost a late game to zerg.
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On Jaedong's side however, he did have to play on 2 very ZvT unfriendly maps, both of which were set up at cross positions.
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On August 28 2010 19:36 prosatan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 19:33 johanes wrote:On August 28 2010 19:32 Mikilatov wrote:On August 28 2010 19:31 Tuke wrote:On August 28 2010 19:29 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote: Flash - Turtle Master wtf Hahahaha, my mind has been blown as well. guys, are you all from romania? WTF! What is wrong with Romania ? we have a winner. ding ding ding ding!
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