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WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
August 05 2010 13:49 GMT
#1021
On August 05 2010 22:47 Grend wrote:
So after a decade tanks suddenly overnight turned imba? This isnt SC2 folks, complaining wont change anything. Though JD pulled off a sweet pincer, he could improve his game, but yeah. The bio into metal transition seems to be ahead of the curve atm, so the zergs need to do something different. Btw why did JD build the greater spire when he never even got any guardians or devourers, was it for upgrades?


Heard of bait and switch??
WWJDD??
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 05 2010 13:58 GMT
#1022
Can we also accept that Odd-Eye is a bad ZvT map and it's almost impossible to break this late game mech bullshit?

Shame, cause JD was the waaaaaaaaay better player.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 14:27:32
August 05 2010 14:18 GMT
#1023
On August 05 2010 22:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wow. Second worst LR thread, ever. The worst being this. Fanboys need to fist themselves. Sea and Light are great players, and really, guys, Effort's TvZ is just painfully average on whole. Light, with his unholy TvZ, could probably beat him with any build on any map. And it's not like Effort and Jaedong even played amazingly well, anyway, so don't act like it's some great crime that they lost


Definitely not, the OSL LR where Flash bunker rushed Jaedong out of the OSL and Stork got hydrabusted by Shine is without a doubt the single worst LR thread.

On August 05 2010 23:22 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 23:18 LetMeShine wrote:
On August 05 2010 22:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wow. Second worst LR thread, ever. The worst being this. Fanboys need to fist themselves. Sea and Light are great players, and really, guys, Effort's TvZ is just painfully average on whole. Light, with his unholy TvZ, could probably beat him with any build on any map. And it's not like Effort and Jaedong even played amazingly well, anyway, so don't act like it's some great crime that they lost


Definitely not, the OSL LR where Flash bunker rushed Jaedong out of the OSL and Stork got hydrabusted by Shine is without a doubt the single worst LR thread.


lol thats what he said man, he linked it in his post


Woops read the wrong tab :|
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
August 05 2010 14:20 GMT
#1024
Lol even Sea admits it while some people don't. Fanboys so cool.
Revolutionist fan
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
August 05 2010 14:21 GMT
#1025
On August 05 2010 22:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wow. Second worst LR thread, ever. The worst being this. Fanboys need to fist themselves. Sea and Light are great players, and really, guys, Effort's TvZ is just painfully average on whole. Light, with his unholy TvZ, could probably beat him with any build on any map. And it's not like Effort and Jaedong even played amazingly well, anyway, so don't act like it's some great crime that they lost


Too bad Sea himself disagrees with you. So about that fisting thing... how about you go first ?
11 years and counting- TL #680
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 05 2010 14:22 GMT
#1026
On August 05 2010 23:18 LetMeShine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 22:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wow. Second worst LR thread, ever. The worst being this. Fanboys need to fist themselves. Sea and Light are great players, and really, guys, Effort's TvZ is just painfully average on whole. Light, with his unholy TvZ, could probably beat him with any build on any map. And it's not like Effort and Jaedong even played amazingly well, anyway, so don't act like it's some great crime that they lost


Definitely not, the OSL LR where Flash bunker rushed Jaedong out of the OSL and Stork got hydrabusted by Shine is without a doubt the single worst LR thread.


lol thats what he said man, he linked it in his post
HEY MEYT
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 14:28:13
August 05 2010 14:27 GMT
#1027
TvZ has historically favored terrans. Very astute of all of you to notice that.

But the anti-mech contingent here is just unbearable. It's a sacrifice of the early game for the late game, just as bio is the opposite. In fact, I'd argue that it's easier for hivetech to beat lategame mech than bio is to beat hivetech.

This reminds me of when Jaedong was schooled by Free with his archon ball of death, and you heard screams of imba then, which is ridiculous, considering ZvP is the most imba matchup of them all. The trick is to not let it get to that point.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 05 2010 14:30 GMT
#1028
On August 05 2010 23:27 SimonB wrote:
TvZ has historically favored terrans. Very astute of all of you to notice that.

But the anti-mech contingent here is just unbearable. It's a sacrifice of the early game for the late game, just as bio is the opposite. In fact, I'd argue that it's easier for hivetech to beat lategame mech than bio is to beat hivetech.

This reminds me of when Jaedong was schooled by Free with his archon ball of death, and you heard screams of imba then, which is ridiculous, considering ZvP is the most imba matchup of them all. The trick is to not let it get to that point.


correct me if im wrong, but i thought the point of going bio with a mech transition like today was the early game was not sacrificed...how can it be any different, when the early game for this style of play is the same as regular bio?
HEY MEYT
Avokodo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
South Africa81 Posts
August 05 2010 14:40 GMT
#1029
wow sea[shield] impressive :D
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 05 2010 15:06 GMT
#1030
When I saw the results, I had to double check to make sure they weren't playing SC2.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 05 2010 15:14 GMT
#1031
ouch, all the terrans won.
Brood War loyalist
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 15:26:26
August 05 2010 15:25 GMT
#1032
On August 05 2010 23:27 SimonB wrote:
TvZ has historically favored terrans. Very astute of all of you to notice that.

But the anti-mech contingent here is just unbearable. It's a sacrifice of the early game for the late game, just as bio is the opposite. In fact, I'd argue that it's easier for hivetech to beat lategame mech than bio is to beat hivetech.

This reminds me of when Jaedong was schooled by Free with his archon ball of death, and you heard screams of imba then, which is ridiculous, considering ZvP is the most imba matchup of them all. The trick is to not let it get to that point.

Lategame mech is a direct response to hive tech.

I think zergs aren't using their full tech arsenal to enough effect. Zerg should get mutalisks to force goliaths, then run terran over with hydra/ling/drops, until terran has to get vultures, and then mutalisks again. Rinse and repeat. Zergs have to punish terran for vultures. overlords all over the place, and mutalisks taking out mines. Rapid tech switches.
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
August 05 2010 15:51 GMT
#1033
uh oh, come on zergs D:
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 16:02:30
August 05 2010 16:01 GMT
#1034
On August 05 2010 20:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 20:46 tomatriedes wrote:
On August 05 2010 20:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
pretty bad map for zerg

the majority of you are complete idiots though


No. we're just not big sea/terran fanboys like you. Some of us actually want other races to have a chance.


look here dingleberry, the vast majority of you slobbering cretins can't tell when a zerg player makes the wrong decisions in the first place

it's a goddamned miracle you can identify a map that's bad for zerg. durp durp, imba this, imba that, terran is unfair. the only thing that happened in those last 2 games was someone picked terran!


Post of the thread. This terran hating bullshit needs to stop. Now. The influx of SC2 baddies is bad enough, don't translate T hate to brood war plz.

Jaedong could have easily overran Sea with mass muta when he had less than a control group of goliaths. There were almost no turrets unlike the game with Flash.
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
August 05 2010 16:05 GMT
#1035
On August 06 2010 01:01 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 20:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On August 05 2010 20:46 tomatriedes wrote:
On August 05 2010 20:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
pretty bad map for zerg

the majority of you are complete idiots though


No. we're just not big sea/terran fanboys like you. Some of us actually want other races to have a chance.


look here dingleberry, the vast majority of you slobbering cretins can't tell when a zerg player makes the wrong decisions in the first place

it's a goddamned miracle you can identify a map that's bad for zerg. durp durp, imba this, imba that, terran is unfair. the only thing that happened in those last 2 games was someone picked terran!


Post of the thread. This terran hating bullshit needs to stop. Now. The influx of SC2 baddies is bad enough, don't translate T hate to brood war plz.

Jaedong could have easily overran Sea with mass muta when he had less than a control group of goliaths. There were almost no turrets unlike the game with Flash.

Fakesteve is my hero. I'm going to start using Dingleberry in every insult I use from now on.
Retired BW Noob
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
August 05 2010 16:18 GMT
#1036
sea is feasting on the angry jaedong fanboy's tears right now.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 05 2010 16:19 GMT
#1037
Rough game but there is a lot of very bad strategy advice and critiques in this thread
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 05 2010 16:21 GMT
#1038
Dammit I hate fucking stupid maps, Odd-Eye is even worse..
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
August 05 2010 16:21 GMT
#1039
Anytime Jaedong loses the PR thread goes to hell.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 16:26:23
August 05 2010 16:22 GMT
#1040
Can we please put a stop to Terran hating now?
Jeez.
Need I remind you that they play to win, not to play to appeal the audience, regardless of the result?
At that stage, they HAVE TO win, and they HAVE TO do anything to achieve it.
Now I don't give a shit about Swarm Season, I don't give a shit about the bio mech transition that is "tearing apart the fabric of Starcraft".
It's just you Zerg sympathizers and Terran haters have problem with your attitude. People like you are so fucking used to see Zerg rampaging through leagues that you start to take it for granted. Now there's no Protoss for you to hydra bust, to 3-0, only Terran players who have already acknowledged themselves being the underdogs and more inexperienced, so they practise more vigorously in order to minimize the gap.
Fucking face it: They're just trying to do their job, while you sit here, you watch the stream, you trashtalk in the channel and enjoy the luxury of not having to endure the freaking stress those players out there have to; yet you call their [best performance they COULD offer] "gay" and by the most derogatory terms possible. I see nobody "gay" but you people.

And map imbalance? Give us a freaking break. This PR, that Odd-Eye, every map that could be used to describe a Zerg graveyard? When a Terran wins this way it takes a freaking long time, followed by persistent endurance and a string of correct decisions.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
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