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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 12:54 GMT
#2081
On July 20 2010 21:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:52 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


You suddenly started talking about Stats.

If anyone is weird its you


Are you trolling me? You brought him up.


wtf when?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 20 2010 12:55 GMT
#2082
On July 20 2010 21:49 LetMeShine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:35 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Yeah why do you think teams dont send out protoss vs CJ on Judgement day?


You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Guess what, Stork loves silver medals nearly as much as Yellow.

I mean Christ the dude lost a finals series in his best matchup to a complete rookie (Flash) in less than an hour.

Wah, what's that picking to Stork. I don't even know why you say that. Flash revolutionized the match up in this final. Yeah he is kind of choker, but he did win an OSL, and not in a underwhelming fashion if I might add.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:57:06
July 20 2010 12:56 GMT
#2083
On July 20 2010 21:54 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:52 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


You suddenly started talking about Stats.

If anyone is weird its you


Are you trolling me? You brought him up.


wtf when?


On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:35 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:34 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:32 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:30 ArvickHero wrote:
[quote]
Nevermind that Bisu raped Jaedong on that map, the result would've been the same obviously with SKT T1 winning.. then I presume you'll just pick another map?


Judgement day is Efforts map, so I dont believe he would have lost


haha now you're just making shit up, Effort's never ZvP'd on judgment day.

Unless I have a terrible memory.


Yeah why do you think teams dont send out protoss vs CJ on Judgement day?


You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Super arc of now, meet the superarc of 10 minutes ago.

Notice how there is no mention of Stats, the only thing I said about stats early was a joke about him having the best PvZ in the world which even had a smilie face to show that it wasn't serious.

lookit dat smilie face.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 12:56 GMT
#2084
On July 20 2010 21:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:54 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:52 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


You suddenly started talking about Stats.

If anyone is weird its you


Are you trolling me? You brought him up.


wtf when?


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:35 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:34 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:32 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Judgement day is Efforts map, so I dont believe he would have lost


haha now you're just making shit up, Effort's never ZvP'd on judgment day.

Unless I have a terrible memory.


Yeah why do you think teams dont send out protoss vs CJ on Judgement day?


You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Super arc of now, meet the superarc of 10 minutes ago.


It matters less than Flash stats of his vZ bo5s.....
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 20 2010 12:56 GMT
#2085
On July 20 2010 21:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:54 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:54 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:52 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


You suddenly started talking about Stats.

If anyone is weird its you


Are you trolling me? You brought him up.


wtf when?


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:35 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:34 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:32 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Judgement day is Efforts map, so I dont believe he would have lost


haha now you're just making shit up, Effort's never ZvP'd on judgment day.

Unless I have a terrible memory.


Yeah why do you think teams dont send out protoss vs CJ on Judgement day?


You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Super arc of now, meet the superarc of 10 minutes ago.


stats= statistics lol
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2010 12:57 GMT
#2086
Oh wow holy shit Stats change your damn name.
Remember Violet.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 20 2010 12:58 GMT
#2087
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2010 12:58 GMT
#2088
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:35 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Yeah why do you think teams dont send out protoss vs CJ on Judgement day?


You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 12:59 GMT
#2089
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

You know what I'm honestly wondering where this shitty indignation was in the last ace match where it was HBR, a zerg haven, when SKT has shitty zergs and you have an "S-class" player. Oh that's right SKT1 was capable of fielding someone with a smart build against the expected Ace's weak match up.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh the hypocrisy.


NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 13:00:47
July 20 2010 13:00 GMT
#2090
Wrong thread.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
July 20 2010 13:01 GMT
#2091
Congrats to SKT, I really like both teams so I hope Bisu stays in form.
Moktira is da bomb
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 13:01:59
July 20 2010 13:01 GMT
#2092
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...



and we dont see why 10-13 should be a gamebreaking disadvantage, especially given how good effort is at zvp. so the map imbalance is not enough of an argument for not sending him. blame ur loss on the coaches bad ace choice, but not on map imba.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2010 13:03 GMT
#2093
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

NHBR is zerg haven? lol


Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...


Cuz progamers say it is? Because the natural is one of the most muta vulnerable in progamer match history? Because the high ground areas and circular center allow for easy lurker defense and general backstabbing? Because it was actually a map Effort played really well on in the regular season?
Remember Violet.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 13:05:44
July 20 2010 13:05 GMT
#2094
wrong thread dammit
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 13:05 GMT
#2095
On July 20 2010 22:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...


Cuz progamers say it is? Because the natural is one of the most muta vulnerable in progamer match history? Because the high ground areas and circular center allow for easy lurker defense and general backstabbing? Because it was actually a map Effort played really well on in the regular season?


valks/gols rape on NHBR

A year ago NHBR might have been zerg favoured.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 20 2010 13:05 GMT
#2096
On July 20 2010 22:01 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...



and we dont see why 10-13 should be a gamebreaking disadvantage, especially given how good effort is at zvp. so the map imbalance is not enough of an argument for not sending him. blame ur loss on the coaches bad ace choice, but not on map imba.


add to that that it was just one out of I think 19 games played
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2010 13:07 GMT
#2097
On July 20 2010 22:05 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 22:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...


Cuz progamers say it is? Because the natural is one of the most muta vulnerable in progamer match history? Because the high ground areas and circular center allow for easy lurker defense and general backstabbing? Because it was actually a map Effort played really well on in the regular season?


valks/gols rape on NHBR

A year ago NHBR might have been zerg favoured.


you, you are the person who makes things up without anything to back it up and just assumes that it's right.

HBR was your lucky ace map. Hell it's a terrible terran map in general, but your dude still failed because he fell prey to wanting to cheese a victory.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 20 2010 13:08 GMT
#2098
On July 20 2010 20:49 Pineapple wrote:
Should've sent Savior.

At least he would've made some money out of losing!
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 20 2010 13:09 GMT
#2099
On July 20 2010 22:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

Yep, unless Flash lied about it being a difficult map for TvZ after he had won on it in an interview.


Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...


Cuz progamers say it is? Because the natural is one of the most muta vulnerable in progamer match history? Because the high ground areas and circular center allow for easy lurker defense and general backstabbing? Because it was actually a map Effort played really well on in the regular season?


If you are trying to provide an argument and state a fact you probably should not use blatant exaggeration like this.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2010 13:10 GMT
#2100
On July 20 2010 22:09 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 22:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:59 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
THAT SAID THIS:

On July 20 2010 21:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:49 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:43 SuperArc wrote:
[quote]

Flash also says TvZ is his best matchup.


Yep, it is.

I mean unless 3-0ing Jaedong still doesn't matter anymore.


It matters less than his bo5 stats


Ahaha what the fuck those two are so completely unrelated oh my god.

Stats was a rookie in his first best of five and, even being the underdog, played worse than his usual standard against the best in the world. Flash took on the king of Bo5s in a finals and crushed him, it's safe to say if he thinks his TvZ is best then it probably is.


guess what, so was jaedong (a rookie) and he still won a leauge back then


Holy shit Stats isn't as good as Jaedong it's a world shaking revelation.

Man you go on the most ridiculous tangents. Effort isn't a proven Judgment day ZvP specialist and Bisu beat someone who's better than Effort anyhow on the same map, lay off it. You had your shot when HBR was the ace match in the last set and blew it because your ace loves to zergling rush and fantasy's special builds aren't as vulnerable as Flash's.


still applies. SKT was no more lucky today than you were yesterday, their ace choice was just more clutch in the disadvantageous situation.


I still dont see how NHBR is a Z>T favoured map...


Cuz progamers say it is? Because the natural is one of the most muta vulnerable in progamer match history? Because the high ground areas and circular center allow for easy lurker defense and general backstabbing? Because it was actually a map Effort played really well on in the regular season?


If you are trying to provide an argument and state a fact you probably should not use blatant exaggeration like this.


Um, it's not an exaggeration, ZvT it is one of the most easily harrassed naturals ever. That's the nature of a long access time highground hugging the minerals of your natural. :>
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